>10/10 japanese artist
>their art becomes more and more soulless over time
>eventually they delete their account
Why are they like this?

>>7627742 (OP)
Yep, this definitely needed a thread

>>7627744
Where else would a thread of this subject matter be made?

My heart kinda stings when I look at his early works.

>>7627747
Could you post some later soulless ones? For comparison. I never heard of this artist but I'm curious.

>>7627747
are those photobashed buildings?

>>7627751
This appears to be one of their latest pieces. Maybe calling it soulless is a tad unfair, it's obviously really really well drawn, but it just feels so generic compared to the other things I've posted.

>>7627744
Also you're encouraged to discuss the topic of why Japanese artists delete their accounts or maybe provide examples of an artist you really miss.

>>7627742 (OP)
>>7627747
Character is integrated with the scenery. The scenery is part of the picture. It feels more like you're "in the painting" as a result. Removing the scenery would make the characters seem awkward, removing the character would make the scenery seem like a liminal space.

>>7627755
The scenery acts purely as a "background" - a framing device for the character. The character is the entire focus, you could remove everything but her and the railing she's sitting on out and it would work. Like a transparent png background for use in a shitty mobile game or on a website. It's basically an advanced "girl in void" drawing with a background slapped behind it.

Also the railing posts look lazily skewed instead of drawn properly in perspective.

>>7627763
That's a very nice observation and you're correct. He started off only occasionally doing character portraits but the latest couple pages on danbooru are all just gacha portraits. Such a shame.

>>7627742 (OP)
>>eventually they delete their account
why do artists do this?

>>7627755
There's definitely truth to this and I don't think it's just Japanese artists. The "early" pieces feel distinct, like you could spot that artists work even if they were doing another subject. The "later" piece, though technically better, feels like it could have been done by any artist in that genre.

>>7627755
Having a more generic style likely helps better for finding work. I sometimes see Japanese artists I follow do character illustrations for unpopular gacha games (not big names) and the style will look more generic than their regular art.

>>7627793
They got a real job. Not joking.

>>7627795
>>7627782
Its part of "industry training", because companies want to define their brand by committee and then be able to hire any artist who works well under their direction, is cheap, and isn't socially a hassle for management to deal with (either by being too uppity or too distant).

If you wish to work as an artist in the media industries, the bosses want YOU to be soulless, replaceable part.
Personally, I find it repulsive.

>>7627793
Usually it's impostor syndrome or other mental issues, where they feel they don't "deserve" the popularity or something.
Sometimes they get weirdos stalking them.
Sometimes they get a job as the other anon said and they mistakenly eliminate their social media presence - this is a terrible idea because it makes them have a worse negotiating position for pay as they have NO fallback at that point, they gave up the whole glut of reach that they spent years building up, and damaged the trust that their fans have of them sticking around.
Sometimes they actually want to be making other kinds of art but did what they think would get them popularity, and the displeasure grew til it exploded.
Some delete it when they join the military (koreans do this frequently as they have mandatory service) and then come back later.

>>7627822
That's the fart huffing perspective, the reality is that companies don't just hire one guy to do everything for obvious reasons, and all those artists need to produce consistent assets that form a single identity and not a bunch of disjointed drawings.
Whenever companies take the anthological approach, people complain because every retard has something he doesn't like and like all complaining, it tends to overtake the discussion

>>7627822
Yeah this is basically it. If you have any intention of being artistic, just ignore corpo shit completely. You will not be the special little guy, you will be transmuted into a soulless suit like everyone else.

Deleting the social media is also part of it. When you're under NDA/Non-Compete, you never know what posts might get you sued for straying too close to the job. Forcing you to delete your online presence to stay safe keeps you in their little closed ecosystem.

>>7627836
No its a bit more than that. They also just generally don't like having one artist's distinctive style be "the brand" because it means he has extreme leverage in terms of negotiating power, and each other artist under them has to be trained to be on-brand. Blizzard did this for the longest time, their main look was from Samwise and the other "Sons of the Storm" group, and its slowly been tuned towards being a bit more generic while keeping their trademarks intact.
Also, the "anthological approach" worked for decades, visible in places like card games and early gachas. It just means that if you fire one artist his work stops showing up, and you disappoint the people who liked that artist. The counter is that with such an ecosystem of "semi-famous/famous artists", you can partner with some for limited-edition shit. Like how FGO had the danganronpa guy do some art for some things at one point. A retarded example would be how WotC, as part of their fortnitification of their brand, got permission to reprint old Hildebrandt art for their Lord of The Rings Magic set.

ALL companies these days are intentionally sinking ships with the investors shovelling as much money into their rowboats as they can to move onto the next one. Even small ones are starting full of holes.

>>7627869
TCG is its own thing, I'm talking about self contained media, which is 95% of commercial art work. Shit like Hearthstone and the rest of rest of the digital wave showed everyone zoomers don't care about the art anyway.
Also, the Blizzard example is weird considering his art becoming the trademark hurt Samwise and benefited Blizzard. It gave them a unique (for the industry), marketable art style for decades and killed his marketability outside of Blizzard. Hell, even the shit he hasn't touched tainted his work, nuDiablo and the Jack Black shit buried the style, nobody ever wants to see the Samwise trappings again outside of people still paying for WoW.

>>7627951
Ehhh I think you are looking at things a bit to black and white. Samwise's artstyle was the main influence back in the day, but the other artists were also part of it - Metzen also draws (or drew, I don't know if he still does.) And Blizzard has 100% moved away from it in forms that do matter. If you held up Samwise's art vs WoW art from even 2010, it's completely different - just some influences are still there. Overwatch is fully divorced from him too. I don't recall much blizzard art from Samwise in over a decade. If he has, it's either few and far between or isn't public. But I suspect at this point he's just coasting off of royalties or dividends from being an early Blizzard guy. I doubt he sees much need to share his art online if he's still painting.

>>7627742 (OP)
>>7627747
>>7627758
>>7627782
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?page=24&tags=shichigatsu
In case anyone else was also wondering.

>>7628033
I see I completely forgot to give out a name.

>>7627742 (OP)
the end game of the path of true artistry is to eventually delete all of your art works.

>>7627742 (OP)
>>7627826
>Sometimes they actually want to be making other kinds of art but did what they think would get them popularity, and the displeasure grew til it exploded.
Happened to me and got a normal job not soon after lol. Though I have less time for it now, drawing and practicing is more enjoyable when you don't have to worry about trends and fake numbers.
I don't experience dread and anxiety anymore when sitting in front of my tablet, or when I fuck up a drawing, or when I get stuck. I honestly wanted to quit art for good, but I guess I will always have the urge to create in my heart.

I recommend to never start drawing for money instead of passion. It hurts me to know that I can't make a living doing what I love, but I think preserving this love to create is more important than making rent through art.

I'm thinking of posting on social media by the end of the year under the same name again, drawing with a healthier mindset, and drawing the things I've actually wanted to draw from the beginning.
Godspeed to you all who might experience something similar. We're all gonna make it in our own unique ways.

Because it's boring, after a while you just delete and move on.

>>7627747
>>7627755
even if you ignore the differences in composition the new style is so generic, none of the guy's original sense of color, mood or angularity made it into the new stuff

>>7628079
>I recommend to never start drawing for money instead of passion.
The key is to draw your passion and cultivate an audience that will pay you to do so. Too many people think it's a mutually-exclusive choice. It isn't.
However, doing art for money is a very social thing so if dealing with people is exhausting rather than energizing, you probably might wanna keep it as a hobby. As a general rule, if you can yap with multiple people for hours at a time, and if you feel like you start to go crazy if you talk to nobody for even 1 day, you probably would be good with art. If the inverse is true and you need to rest and recover after dealing with people extensively, then you likely would hate art as a job.
>>7628088
Oh right, yes. The Nietzscheian "evolve beyond the current context" thing. Some people take it a bit too far. You could just take a break, and then come back and Ziggy Stardust yourself, you know?

>>7628088
this desu

>>7627753
Of course. It's pretty obvious.

>>7627742 (OP)
The background and character art feel like they clash, but maybe that's just me?
It's kind of like when they render an overly realistic body, but the face is just a flat cartoon rendering.

>>7628341
they were probably just having fun and not thinking too much about painting over everything so it fits nicely like concept art.

>>7627793
artists are naturally introverts so its no surprise managing social media isn't something they're good at. it has to be really worth it for them to do so.
but most artists don't reach the levels where their art can pay their bills
even if they're good, even if they have a "decent" following
turns out a decent following doesn't really mean anything other than posting to a bunch of passive followers who will like a post and never interact with your art otherwise
or worst case scenario you get some autist who hates your guts and is trying to dox you because you humble bragged once.
its hardly worth it when you have a day job too

its very easy to get in the position to where you're thinking "why am i doing this"?

on a more positive note, maybe they do get a job in the industry and have to neglect their accounts because they're now drawing for their company

>>7628212
>>7627809
>>7627795
>>7627763
>adopting an artstyle to target a desired aesthetic is LE BAD, okay!? IT JUST IS!
Westoids... Westoids never change. This is why Westoids are permabegs who CAN NOT draw Japanese styles. Their quirkiness is more important to them than building skill, community and cultural cohesion. They cannot comprehend the reason behind the existence of different artstyles. For them it's LITERALLY about being the quirkiest you can while maintaining some semblance of art.

>>7628697
Western quirkiness and individualism is why your gook cartoons exist your kind lacks creativity and risk taking mindset.Most gook media or anime takes inspiration from such western art, anyone with a good pattern recognition can notice it which you clearly lack.

>>7628786
All media with a strong personal aesthetic and creative vision (while still maintaining cultural cohesion) is created in Japan right now. Westoids are coopted and cannot step outside of what they are (((allowed))) to do in media. You have no clue about Japan and its creators. Stop watching troons on youtube.

>>7627763
You are beg

These backgrounds are decent (it's a shame they're digital though.) But then the artist ruins it with the cringe cartoon character... Unfortunate.

>>7627755
> file.jpg
Fuck, thats like a chthonic terror. You sacrifice thousands of hours to get good. And then one day, you are good, but now you realize you became broken in the process and you are able to produce only soulless slope.
You cant beat your own faith, when you havent enough talent and you need to grind for years, it will make you bitter and you will lack the playfulness needed to create good art.
Its OVER!

>>7628872
>soulless slope
The entirety of your artistic output is that. You're coping that someone has honed actual skills to draw in a well defined artstyle that's incomprehensible to you on every level.

>>7628876
Why are there so unbelievably many posts like this on this board?
Criticizing other peoples art without posting your own art and shitting on other peoples art without ever having seen it too.
Please post art. Before you reply to me, post your art. You need to prove that you are at least decent with a pencil before you criticize anyone else.
>incomprehensible to you on every level.
It's not a postmodernist artpiece, it's an anime character portrait you retard. Obviously your explanation is going to be something like >What i really meant by 'incomprehensible on every level' was that you can't draw the gacha slop image in question if you had to.
>what do you mean i can't criticize or dislike a movie if i've never made one myself? uhmm uhhh....

>>7628892
>Criticizing other peoples art without posting your own art
You mean just like you're doing with the Japanese artist? You can't make this stuff up.

>you can't draw the gacha
You can't analyze it to see how it works. Everything in it goes over your head. You wouldn't even know where to begin to try and create it. You call it "slop" because it's not culturally aligned with you and you don't get it. Actual "slop" means something low effort or low quality, not something with substantial technique and craft behind it.
>what do you mean i can't criticize or dislike a movie if i've never made one myself?
What valuable criticism can you give that's not feelings based if you're not even skilled in the art of creating that thing? At best you can say "I like thing X" or "I dislike thing X". The westoid mindset of everyone being a critic with nothing to show for it is the main reason for the current downfall of the arts.

>>7628913
>You mean just like you're doing with the Japanese artist? You can't make this stuff up.
I made this thread. I've given 90% praise for this artists work and I even acknowledged the skill level of that image in another post of mine. My problem is that the subject matter and is boring and generic compared to what they used to do, which is some of the most soulful anime art I've ever seen. I'm not criticizing the technical ability of that piece, I'm criticizing the subject matter specifically in comparison to other works by the same artists.
Post art now.
>You can't analyze it to see how it works. Everything in it goes over your head.
No I can analyze it and see how it works. I can't recreate it, but I can certainly decode what the subject matter is and compare it to works by other artists, or in this case, the same artist. Pic rel is something I have trouble understanding.
Post art now.
>You call it "slop" because it's not culturally aligned with you and you don't get it.
It's a 2D girl, I get it.
Post art.
>Actual "slop" means something low effort or low quality, not something with substantial technique and craft behind it.
I disagree. I think if a corporation hires a highly skilled artist to do a piece for them, that piece can absolutely be soulless, generic, corporate slop depending on the subject matter and how much creative freedom the artist has.
Post art.
Answer the following question and (I won't reply to you seriously anymore if you ignore it): Would you say the same for marvel films? Can only experts criticize marvel films? What about politics? Should only politicians and legal experts be allowed to criticize the law and government?
Post art.

>>7628913
>What valuable criticism can you give that's not feelings based if you're not even skilled in the art of creating that thing?
I can criticize the subject matter and stylistic choices. The gacha slop image is generic. I couldn't tell it was shichigatsu if you put it in a row with 5 other pieces like it. With their earlier works, they're easily distinguished as pieces by that artist and they look unique.
What criticism can you give other anons when you haven't posted art?
>The westoid mindset of everyone being a critic with nothing to show for it is the main reason for the current downfall of the arts.
I actually agree with you. Indeed I too get pissed off when I see tumblr troons invade a thing I like and claim it for themselves (dungeon meshi) and dictate what it is (muh autistic laios, muh farcille, muh sexy senshi, muh hairy Namari), but it doesn't apply here. Do you think a Japanese person with a degree in the arts is going to say that an fgo character portrait is just as good and important as a work by one of the masters? Obviously not, it would be inferior both in subject matter and technical ability.
You have to post art. Let me see just one thing you've made. Here's a copy I made from a japanese artist. 'That's not yours' or 'all you did was copy, that's not impressive' you might say, but it's more than you've posted and I'm not calling you shit at drawing or anything. You're calling other people shit at drawing + not posting your art and this makes you a disgusting rat who ruins this board.

>>7628989
damn, how hard is it to reach shelves from that height lil'guy?

>>7628994
Learn to draw, permabeg.

>>7628999
I'm not even the guy you were replying to lol, just doing my job by keeping manlets in the pit

>>7629006
Fuck you, that was uncalled for. I didn't ask to be 170cm. Post height/art so I can criticize you.

>>7629011
>Post height/art
I don't like to punch down

they didn't become soulless, you just lost your soul

>>7629025
>>7629025
That's right. While I'm posting something I've made, you hide yourself. You can't draw and you don't draw. Crabs won't post art because by exposing a part of themselves, they become vulnerable to criticism and scrutiny, so they hide while criticizing others who do so.
This board will eventually die because of people like you. Think about it: If you post your work, people will mock and criticize you, so there's little incentive to do so. If you post nothing, you can endlessly mock and criticize others who are braver than you. The benefit of not posting or discussing art ends up outweighing the benefit of doing so, and that will kill this board.

>>7629031
tripcodes should be mandatory on this board
IDs are pointless since they change every thread

>>7629029
Drawing gachaslop sucks out your soul.

>>7628989
he's not going to post art. don't get baited by jaded permabeg nodraws

>>7629037
that could be an idea, but i've never seen something like that done before.

>>7629042
I know you're correct, but I just can't help myself on the off-chance that he isn't trolling. It felt like a real argument until I made that post.

>>7627742 (OP)
Because westerners coddle them too much
https://www.instagram.com/_gabrielhcosta/p/DLYbrGaRavd/?img_index=1

>>7629107
what the fucl?

>>7628989
>>7628999
Are you that guy who always traces random japs in /beg/?

>>7629124
Oh, never mind. Saw you said it was a copy. Also, apparently this guy is Taiwanese.

>>7629124
>Are you that guy who always traces random japs in /beg/?
Are you saying there's another guy who also made a copy of that exact drawing? Can you share it with me so I can compare? But I guess you said he's tracing, so I win by default.
>>7629125
>Also, apparently this guy is Taiwanese
That's embarassing, I thought he was Japanese. I just really love his style and it's surprisingly easy to do if you have an inkpen set and it looks really amazing, even if you can barely draw, like me.
Perfect for manga as well.

>>7629154
No, there's a guy in beg who traces other artwork, almost always by Japanese artists, and says it's original. Some other anons have pointed it out before. I'm not sure if he's posted since. But he's never admitted it was a copy.

>>7628913
>You call it "slop" because it's not culturally aligned with you
Correct! Some cultures are inferior.
Mindless consoomer culture is designed to be just barely sufficient to numb the pain of going to a shit job for 10+ hours a day, and then it gets replaced with NEW THING TO BUY on endless repeat.
This is BAD, it's horrifically wasteful of your time, money, and life! Even shitposting on here is better!

It's the same reason the old "tumblr nose hairy leg" art of the early 2010s was bad - it's for a SHIT culture!

The disgust response is about the fact that someone decided to give up creating something cool and new so he could fit into and be chewed up by the garbage machine.


But hey, I'm not the target audience after all! And he's no longer making art!

>>7629275
post your patreon videos on youtube coward

>>7629154
Taiwanese are basically honorary Japanese.

>>7629320
retarded cope, they're chinks
no, your brown flip ass isn't honorary japanese either

>>7628697
i've begun to realize how many posts in this board are literally just 1 mindbroken faggot spamming the same retarded east vs west shit, its always the same talking points (self contradictory anime glazing, insistence on "drawing japanese", uses the term westoid in every post)
worst part is the guy doesnt even fucking draw, he's just here to go into hysterics whenever someone doesnt spend every waking moment hailing generic anime girl pinups as the pinnacle of art

>>7629502
is he the same one that spams dunning kruger?

>>7629502
And that guy is also you. I have noticed people calling him out were also him samefagging.
/ic/ is dead.

>>7629502
He keeps posting it because it keeps getting replies. Always has and at this rate always will. You gotta learn to just instantly check out of a post the second you recognize a troll and skip past it. Yes, even if he's replying to you. Simply ignore it.

>>7629543
I think he's the same guy as tablet schizo

>>7627745
There's a dedicated thread for this >>7601083

>>7630225
I don't care, I wanted to talk about that artist and to hear if other anons had their own examples of artists they liked doing it. Do you really need to mourn whatever crab ragebait thread died for this?

>>7629160
do you mean Cyclops-chan?

>>7630228
You asked a question and I answered it. No need to get riled up.

>>7630233
I'm not riled up and I hate how so much many arguments online always involve one or both parties desperately trying to frame the other as such. I could also accuse you of being arbitrarily upset at my thread when you made this post >>7627744 but I did no such thing.

>>7627755
looks like he stopped relying on brushes and photobashing to do all the work making concept art tier sketches and finally learned to draw and render properly. this is what progress looks like.

>>7630239
>when you made this post >>7627744
Problem is, that's not me

>>7630228
>"where else would I talk about this?"
>gets an answer
>"I dont care"
Then don't fucking ask in the first place if you never gave a shit, stupid.

Summerfags need to leave

>>7630257
And inb4 you think 7630263 is also me, no it isn't

>>7630231
No, it was more recent and he drew digitally. He shat on a couple artists in there and there was some schizo fighting that I couldn't decipher. I haven't seen Cyclops in ages.

>>7630291
And that’s a good thing. I hate that he’s popular and I’m not.

>>7630291
I see. I remember cyclops getting bashed for tracing/too heavily referencing Kaedeko (draws a loli character with gigantic tits)

>>7630293
Damn bro

>>7630291
that guy didn't have a name or any notoriety, he was a tracer who came in saying he mogged the thread when he didn't to shit on artists he didn't like. it turned out everything he posted was either a (even admitted once) trace or a copy. he got into drama with a schizo anon who found all the images he traced because he said he mogged them.

>>7630306
Seriously, be careful when sharing stuff on /ic/. There are a bunch of legit psychos with nothing better to do.

>>7630257
I don't care if that's not you, treat it like a variable and replace it with whatever you've actually said and my point still stands.
>>7630263
The question was meant rhetorically. I 'asked' not because I wanted an answer but because this is the single most relevant board for discussing a topic like this.
As for the thread question; getting an answer wasn't important, starting a discussion, particularly concerning this artist and maybe others like them was.
People like you are so grating to talk to.

>>7630309
if you trace, expect someone to find out. that's the moral.

>>7630318
>People like you are so grating to talk to.

Says the one who thinks its inconsequential if he treats someone elses comments as mine. You're a treat, bro. Right back at you. I suppose we just end it here if we both agree the other is insufferable.

>>7630326
>Says the one who thinks its inconsequential if he treats someone elses comments as mine.
Then try to dispute my point.
You accuse me of being upset or 'riled up' and your reason is that I give pushback. What then, is stopping me from doing the same with any which one of your posts, that give pushback to what I'm doing? Nothing! My point still stands whether that post was made by you or not a And it's fucking retarded that every single discussion online anywhere has to inevitably go in this direction.
>Heh! You're upset at me and you're hiding it
>No my friend, I surmise that YOU are the one who is actually upset and secretly hiding it
It's so fucking retarded and I'm tired of it, but go on. I wrote more words than you so I must be so mad, yeah?
How do you know this post was written by the same person you replied to before anyway? You have to assume it to be me, but since this is 4chan it could always be someone else and you were simply the next person in that reply chain.

>>7630344
I thought we were done? But sure. One last reply and we can go our merry way


>You accuse me of being upset or 'riled up'

I didnt accuse you, you simply came across that way. Not every statement about you or your behaviour is an attack. Your first response to me went "Do you really need to mourn whatever crab ragebait thread died for this?"

>You accuse me of being upset or 'riled up' and your reason is that I give pushback

No. The reason is you come across as such, as previously stated.

>How do you know this post was written by the same person you replied to before anyway?

The way the replies are formated, worded, the level of emotionality. Sure there's a nonzero chance someone is fagging, but just from the flow of conversation and the missing accusations of impersonation im pretty sure I've been talking to the same individual.

>You have to assume it to be me, but since this is 4chan it could always be someone else and you were simply the next person in that reply chain.

I understand that that can be hard to tell on an anonymous image board, but that doesnt make mixing all users of this board into the same amalgamous entity, even when it's stated that I'm NTA any less unreasonable. You also just casually undermined your own point.

Let's just agree that this reply chain is going nowhere and that we're talking past eachother. There is no need to further waste our time. I'm literally just here because this fucking heatwave makes me unproductive and messed up my circadian rythm. I'm getting out of this place for now and so should you

>>7627742 (OP)
drawing costs soul. The more you draw, the more you run out. You need to replentish your soul with new experiences in life.

>>7630386
Why do you put spaces in between your lines? lol.
>I didnt accuse you, you simply came across that way.
My behavior, or style of writing lead you to make an ASSUMPTION about my state of mind, yes.
>Not every statement about you or your behaviour is an attack.
You weren't commenting on my behavior, you were commenting on my state of mind as a result of what I wrote and I didn't write anything crazy or unreasonable either, I just disagreed, as you are doing now.
>Your first response to me went "Do you really need to mourn whatever crab ragebait thread died for this?"
Yep. Sure, maybe another thread died for this one to be made, but does that really matter? This wasn't an important point and I'm not hinging my entire argument on it and defending like you are with yours. Not everything someone says always needs to be taken so literally.
>No. The reason is you come across as such, as previously stated.
You didn't originally say I 'came off' that way, you just said 'stop getting riled up'. That's an accusation that I'm getting riled up. You're fucking retarded, am I allowed to say that now? One of the top 5 biggest idiots I've talked to on this site. Oh but that's just how you come off, I'm not saying you ARE.
>The way the replies are formated
Sure, so judging by the chain of replies and the contents both being critical of me, you can't really wrong me for assuming you to be that poster and yet you will continue to bring it up as long as this argument continues even though you are essentially gambling as I did there.
>You also just casually undermined your own point.
I didn't, because my point is that it was fair of me to assume those two posts were by the same person. Also I can't really make out what you were trying to say before that, so just gonna ignore.
>Let's just agree that this reply chain is going nowhere and that we're talking past eachother.
I've responded to every single point you've made... I hate the character limit.

>>7630326
>>7630344
>>7630386
>>7630439
Get a fucking room

>Get a fucking room

>>7630457
me in the middle

>>7627755
The stylized scenery is actually coherent with the character. In those earlier (photobashed) ones the anime girl is really out place.

>>7627742 (OP)
>>7627747
>>7627758
>>7627782
>>7628042
>doesn't draw the background
>le soul
>>7627755
>draws the background
>le soulless
you niggers are the dumbest niggers

>>7630431
Good point.

>>7630480
How do you know they drew the background on the later image? How can you be sure they didn't just trace 3D models?

>>7630487
I'm not a beglet, hope that clears it up

>>7630491
You didn't answer the question.

>>7630231
>>7630291
>>7630302
in the end Cyclops only copied his references too heavily and even he himself has admitted that he copies a bit too much from refs, but he doesn't trace. He does post in beg from time to time

>>7629160
>>7630306
https://warosu.org/ic/thread/7591977#p7593569
Found the thread where Deerbro finally clapped back and exposed him

>>7627755
Hesus Christos.

>>7630480
He drawn background allright ? That first picture is fucking amazing it actually shows a lot about place rather then his latest lazy piece of shit work that looks generic as fuck.

>>7627742 (OP)

>>7630956
Nailed it.
These two girls feel like the artist watched Aria once.

I want to learn photobashing if that's how you make stuff like this. I'll probably never reach this level, but it could still be awesome.

>>7630965
>>7630974

It looks simply fucking amazing it's definitely to worth to learn something like this.

Also they're clearly in love with this character.
>>7630980
True. I think the 'stutter' and small 'glitches' found throughout give it a sort of dreamlike atmosphere and maybe a bit of nostalgia, like how some older games do.
You genuinely want to live in these environments and meet the characters. Let's go learn photobashing anon.

>>7630985
I tried it few times but it never reaches that levels.
I would like to know how to do this properly specially something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZulJCYES5Do

>>7630985
Tried it now still looks shit

>>7630948
it's photobashed, regardless, you can see spots where he got lazy and didn't cover it with loose brushstrokes

>>7630956
>old work: 10k likes
>new work: 50k likes
that's the sad reality for background artists. You put in 2x the work and soul for less rewards than your typical copy paste character artists.

>>7631441
>literally hitler
Human is more interesting. That's obvious.

>>7627755
Genuinely hate the generic anime style by now
The examples of this guys earlier art are anime but with some personality unlike this where you couldnt tell who the artist is

>>7629107
man that guy is such a faggot
>why dont we call japs out for being ignorant?
and its just Ussop and shit whats wrong with drawing big lips nigger, you have those