Why you should not trust youtube shills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH1WEYF8rlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284

Do not worry pressure levels. 1024 is more than enough.
Remember to ignore all chinese shills. They often post paid twitter promos from random artists. It's all shilling, ignore it.

Recommended tablets:

>Screenless:
Used Intuos 3, 4, 5, Pro, One by Wacom

>Display:
Small (10-11"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite
Medium (12-16"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S8/S9 Ultra, used iPad Pro 12.9" Gen 1-5
Large (22"+): Cintiq 22, Cintiq Pro 27

Avoid:

>XP-Pen, Huion, Gaomon and every other Chinese brand making Wacom imitations
Poor build quality, pens with wavy lines, wobbly nibs, broken tilt, issues registering light pressure, terrible customer support, uncalibrated displays. All Chinese brands have the same problems. Check out the webm to understand how bad they are.
Do not be fooled by myths like "Chink companies are just as good as Wacom now" - they've been saying this for over 10 years, nothing has changed.
Chinese companies have also been proven to shill on 4chan. You will see dozens upon dozens of posts in this thread by a chinese schizo shill, who will either be bitching about the OP, gaslighting as a Wacom fan, making pointless spam posts or giving terrible advice (like recommending Huion). Just ignore and report him.

>New iPads
Massively overpriced and overhyped.

>Microsoft Surface Pro
More optimized for palm rejection than good quality drawing. Wobbly lines when drawing slow and straight.

>Cintiq 13-16"
Completely outclassed by the Galaxy Tab Ultra & iPad

>Cintiq Pro 16, 24, 32
Overpriced, QC issues, loud fans, proprietary mount interface

>Lenovo
Worse than Samsung in every way.

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>>7634334 (OP)
>Check out the webm to understand how bad they are.

>>7634336

>>7634343

lmao
literal automated shillbot thread
someone make an actual thread

>>7634405
You do it then. This guy spams responses from past threads and talks to himself to make his thread look more popular then reports the new one. If his thread loses he spams yours until its dead and makes a new one.

Someone needs to out schizo the SchizOP bot.

>>7634577
it's amazing, he's even still doing to bump then delete post shit? it's been what, 7 years?

>>7634334 (OP)
i almost never open this thread but i love how there's always the same webms at the start

>>7634658
>>7634664
These threads are fucking useless.

>>7634577
>>7634658
>>7634664
>>7635121
>>7634405
It's 1(one) pajeet Wacom employee being paid 30 cents the year of schizo spamming

>>7634334 (OP)
What should I get for a pen display between $600-$800? 'Was thinking about the XP-Pen Artist Pro 22 GEN2

>>7634405
>>7634577
Honestly the biggest issue with tablet generals in general is that they're mostly visited by people looking for a deal, the mentally ill, actual shills and people coping about their purchases.
Very rarely does anyone who actually uses or draws with one visit these types of threads, post and contribute to them, because for what reason would you outside of maybe announcing that the tablet you purchased is fine or that you're okay with it even after a few years?
But that's just a drop in the ocean of posts flooded with copy pastes from the archives and generic questions, as most people buy one and stick with it for years on end.

Personally I think if anyone were to make a substitute, you'd probably want to make it into a thread that has more of a wider discussion topic, such as "Drawing Technology General".
It would dilute the discussion away from strictly tablets, but you'd get responses from people who actually own and use them much more often.

>>7637427
if you value size, the 22 gen 2
if you value pen performance, the new cintiq 16

I asked this in the old thread.. but
When do you change your nibs?
Is there like a hard limit? I know that you have to change them before they start to scratch your tablet, but before that can you keep using them just fine?

>>7637552
>huiod has to change nibs

>>7637546
The 22 it is then I need more size I'm getting old xd

>got a pro 2017 in a nice state for 60 bux
>shipping is gonna take like a month and a half
>probably going to buy a cheap chinese tablet as a temporary replacement until it arrives for more than that
I feel silly.
>>7637445
>"Drawing Technology General".
Too close to /dtg/ now that I think about it, how about /atg/ - Art Technology General?

>>7637445
>such as "Drawing Technology General".
It's already been tried, just give up. you can't out schizo the schizo. I promise you're wasting your time even brainstorming ways to fix this shithole.

>>7638110
Just start shjillig for the chinks here, the schizo leaves or he goes more nuts either way it'll be funny at least

In case anyone was wondering, I did more research on the new 2025 MDP
Only changes from the old one are android 14 (huge for csp users as csp is going to end support for Android 12 in a few months) and a new digitizer that makes use of their standard pens, so you get things like tilt, 2 shortcut keys, eraser, etc
Also you can plug it in via USB c and use it as a monitor.

Sadly old gen is only going for $250-300 2nd hand so it'll be eating another $100-200 to upgrade

>>7634334 (OP)
I just got an old iPad Pro 12.9" Gen 2 for free which stylus is good for this tablet?

>>7638441
Try the cx1

>>7638110
I think it would just be really funny in theory, I can envision it now:
>Recommended Drawing Software:
>Used Photoshop CS1, CS2, CS3, MSPaint
>Avoid:
>Krita, CSP, Medibang and every other Chinese brand making Photoshop imitations
>Chinese companies have also been proven to shill on 4chan. You will see dozens upon dozens of posts in this thread by a chinese schizo shill, who will either be bitching about the OP, gaslighting as a Photoshop fan, making pointless spam posts or giving terrible advice (like recommending Clip Studio). Just ignore and report him.

>>7634334 (OP)
Buy a fucking ad.
>>7634336
Get new material
>>7634343
Buy a new PSU

why does my apple pencil spazz out with pressure in CSP but it’s fine in procreate? I don’t get it.

>>7637546
If I take a pro 22 gen 2 do I need protector glass, since it's matte glass and all shouldn't be necessary right?

>>7638839
you don't use a screen protector on tablets with etched glass, no.

>>7638902
Right. Thank you!

I'm seeing a used WACOM 27QHD tablet on sale for 1000€, it's used and I haven't asked about details yet. Is that a good wacom tablet? I've never had a wacom tablet before and I'm looking for a replacement for my fucking piece of shit Huion Pro 16 after its screen got magically scratched by the pen (even after changing the tip it got scratched again)

>>7637445
>Honestly the biggest issue with tablet generals in general is that they're mostly visited by people looking for a deal, the mentally ill, actual shills and people coping about their purchases.
>Very rarely does anyone who actually uses or draws with one visit these types of threads, post and contribute to them, because for what reason would you outside of maybe announcing that the tablet you purchased is fine or that you're okay with it even after a few years?
If you look back around 2019/2020 before the schizo took it over, people who actually use tablets (I think we've had engineers in here sometimes too) would frequently check in here to help out newbies or people needing some assistance troubleshooting a problem, as well as discuss new upcoming releases.

Not so many coping about shitty purchase decisions, except when schizop showed up to yell at us about ipads being superior or whatever.

It was a slow thread but it was pretty chill and very helpful. Now it's shitpost central for a spammer bot and a guy that shoves apple pencils up his anus.

>>7640765
It's a good tablet but you need to see it turned on and make sure it's working right.

By the way, what happened to your Huion can happen to any tablet. Either cover your screen when you arent using it or clean your screen with a soft cloth beore you draw. Dust and small dirt shits can hang out on the screen, embed itself in the nib, and slice your screen up. It sounds like you had a sharp nib or a piece of something in your nib, changed it, and caught a new piece in the new nib.

>>7640785
>It was a slow thread but it was pretty chill and very helpful. Now it's shitpost central for a spammer bot and a guy that shoves ... up his anus.
That's just 4chan in general nowadays

time to sell my old one to some faggot that didn't do his research

>>7641167
good price
that's the new version with tilt I assume

>>7641184
yup
they have 20% off, plus if you leave it in your cart and don't check out all they way they send you a code for another 5% off
and I got a random 5% member discount for some reason

Hoping I can get $250-300 for my old one so upgrading to android 14 and tilt and a proper pen won't cost me a ton

>>7640785
I have never seen anyone complain about an Intuos 3. You are just angry less ppl are buying your chinese crap.

>>7641239
Because you don't draw and have never talked to any artists that used one nor used one yourself.
It's an extremely outdated pos that was barely good enough back in 2004. It's only claim to fame is being durable.

>>7641308
you got no argument, chinese retard. Intuos 3 is used by Soejima today and you're trying to say it wasn't good enough for 2004 lol
you are so stupid it's funny

the only reason to get an used intuos 3 is if you can get like a PTZ-930~PTZ-1231(W) with an unfucked surface for $50~$60

>>7641475
There's no reason to get tech from over 20 years ago.

big wobble when pen is angeled, very little if not.
Dunno if this is how things work with wacom aes or if i should try another stylus. They are like 70$ a pop, can still just return them tho.

Is there a large tablet with a surface on par with samsung's for drawing but with an x86 processor? I want to use desktop applications, not android if possible.

I have an Intuos 4 that has paper taped to it for a really nice drawing feel, are there any screen tablets that have a similar feel with protectors I could get? I tried drawing on an Ipad and it was the most miserable experience of my fucking life.

>t. pic unrelated but oc character

>>7641622
>on par with samsung
samsung has a smooth glass surface. I have no idea what you're asking

>>7641719
have you tried any tablets with etched glass? Did the ipad you tried has a matte screen protector on it?

>>7642014
no and no, I'm looking at buying a 22HD second hand atm, maybe it'll feel better than the ipad since people say it has a good screen allegedly.

>>7642031
the bare glass feels like absolute shit, especially with the hard plastic apple pencil tip. Ipads also have inherent wobble with diagonals that I couldn't stand. They feel okay to draw with with a screen protector, but those wear down pretty quickly.
For a standalone, the magic drawing pad is the only reasonably priced tablet that offers etched glass and feels incredible to draw on and I can never recommend them enough. I actually sold my kamvas studio 16 in favor of it because it fills the portable niche way better.
For a dekstop tablet, literally anything with etched glass will feel about the same, and anything made within the past 4-5 years will have a very similar drawing experience. I've used a kamvas 22 plus for 3? years now and have no complaints.
Avoid shit with screen protectors, which I believe the 22hd has. Avoid overpaying for new wacom, it's an absolute ripoff.
Posting work because the freak that will probably respond to this never will because he doesn't draw.

>>7642072
thanks for all the info and your drawing has some really nice shading/greyscale shading to it!

>>7642011
tl;dr:
wtb x64 samsung-quality tablet

>>7642087
Oh also try felt nibs, they add a little more texture and personally I think they feel great to draw with
and last thing, if you want a standalone, do not buy a 2nd hand mdp right now if you use csp, celsys is cutting support to android 12 so it won't be getting any updates, stability or featurewise. They just rolled out a new model with android 14 and a better digitizer like a week ago, so any on ebay are gonna be the old version unfortunately.
Also thank you, I love greyscale sketching

Huion is actually really good
Don't listen to the wacomjeets

>>7642106
dont worry i wont get a standalone, I much prefer having access to my fucking keyboard, using something without it sounds painful.


I need to learn how to greyscale sketch like you, I usually just do a light off color to show shading like the blue in this photo.

>>7642072
You take comms? have a blog?

>>7642134
Yeah 80% of my drawing is on desktop for the same reason, I've gotten so used to my tourbox it's weird to do anything but sketching without it, and they don't have android support for some reason.
>>7642140
Yes and yes but I'm not taking more comms right now
I don't really like linking stuff on 4chan, especially not this thread with the schizo op

>>7642171
Understandable I could give you my discord and you can send it there if you'd like.

>>7642176
Yeah that works, post away friend

>>7642185
void3239

>>7642072
That doesn't say much coming from a chinese retard like yourself though.
There's a long list of pros using ipad. Nobody uses your low quality chinese crap.

I'm using a wacom one and was going to upgrade to the movink because it has a much nicer screen but now the new cintiq is out and I'm not sure.
The cintiq is bigger but the movink is a nicer screen. I've had bad experience with chinese slop so that's out of the question.

>>7634334 (OP)
I'm thinking of buying a cintiq 16 or 24, ideally the new 16 would've been great if it had touch but it doesn't, wanted to look into the 17 inch one but it's a bit big and extremely pricey on top of having heat issues?
Either I get a 24 inch with a stand and another 24 generic monitor on the side or keep my current two monitors (they're a bit old but working) and I get a 16 inch to pull out when I wanna draw, the downside is that it has a lack of buttons so navigation will be very manual and I can't be asked with the older models due to cabling, display, fan, old fat pen or other things they had.
My other problem with getting a 24 with touch would be the mount since I'll need to use it as a monitor but also move it around and tilt it to draw when required and all the mounts are either stiff heigh adjustable with no tilts or arms that seem a bit bouncy and a pain to setup.

>>7643061
macropads are infinitely superior to touch controls

>>7643454
i already use my keyboard to do the shortcuts along with the buttons on the pen, i just find zooming in with my fingers to be much more convenient and ultimately quite intuitive
i think because my monitors are all still alive i'll get the 16 inch instead of throwing them away and being a consumerist, hopefully in 7 years wacom releases a 24 inch with better displays and reasonable price along with a good stand to accompany it (i've always wanted wacom to release an ipad like pen without needing to resupply nibs but whatever for now).

>>7638685
Setting the pen to "wacom settings" seems to do the trick. The pressure is much like my desktop now.

When i do longer lines i notice the grippyness of my pen change. Are these flat spots caused by wear and should i replace the nib already? Also what type of nib do i have if its sorta resistive like rubber on glass?

>>7640797
Sounds like you are making excuses for a poor quality product.

I think I need a standalone drawing tablet
What are cheap standalone drawing tablets? Information on stores seems unreliable, I would buy kamvas but information whether it's standalone is contradicting. And they don't even say what kind of system it runs or software.
Please help. I use huion h610v2 daily I really don't need much I just would like to be able to run Krita.

>>7644350
Replace the nib when its getting sharp. What stylus or tablet do you have?

>>7646126
>I would buy kamvas but information whether it's standalone is contradicting.
They're not standalone. I think there's one version that is an all-in-one computer but it's expensive.

Whats your budget? Do you want windows, android, IOS? What festures do you need?

>>7646150
500 euro max if it's justifiably better over something you can get for 300-400. If by asking for windows you mean Microsoft surface I would just install Linux on that if that doesn't break sensitivity and latency. Android is preferable than apple but if apple is better enough to justify using their system I can get that.

>>7646150
As for features I want to be able to run Krita. Ability to browse web with WiFi would be good too.

>>7646194
I mean I can not run Krita if apple has a better thing going on there but I really don't need much. I found that tilt is pretty useless for me, I never use it. Sensitivity and resolution on my h810 is pretty overkill too. I really need to be able to easily transfer files though. My preferred method for android so far was FTP. But if a tablet has usb port to be able to connect and access files that would work well too. But if tablet would be something not Krita I would want to be able to save files as something that can be commonly opened or something I can at least open with Krita or Photoshop

My xp-pen 24 pro is flickering. Adjusting the brightness helps but still flickers even on lowest. Is it just over? had this for about 4-5 years now. I already tried a different computer/hdmi cord.

(Also adjust the brightness doesn't change the brightness of the screen, it's stuck rather dim.)

>>7647073
Okay it's not flickering now, I had to slowly increase the brightness overtime, does that sound scuffed? It's so over.

>>7647073
Try to get a new power supply, one with a brick. Pretty much all the cables that came with it are cheap. I had this issue + unresponsive pen and it fixed it

>>7647224
Mine actually came with a brick version. I'll still try a replacement though, maybe this one is just crapping out.

>>7642072
Got the new mdp in the mail today
It has full support for the x3 pro pen (tilt, both side keys, and eraser) and has a very slightly different case because the new pen that comes with it is longer (and has 2 side keys, but no eraser). It also has a newer cpu which I'll probably never utilize.
Other than that I don't notice anything different. Only worth the upgrade if you want csp updates or really need the better digitizer.
Still the best standalone on the market if you want an art tool, still worse than ipads and galaxy tabs if you want a "premium" tiktok scroller

>>7647307
Oh also the new pen is completely round and the buttons stick out a little vs the old pen having one flat side and a flush button.

>>7646150
>>7646188
>>7646194
>>7646220
Please respond. Are my requirements ridiculous? What should I get?

>>7647498
S6 lite is looking pretty good and pretty cheap too
Should I get it?

i got this for $100, is there anything i should know about any tech issues? its a XP-Pen 22e Pro

>>7647664
Why post a pic from Google? just take a photo if you own it. Also, who the fuck buys anything and then do research, are you stupid?

Would you guys pay extra for the keyboard cover for a samsung tablet (s10 fe)? i plan on taking it on the go sometimes or just in bed/on the couch where i wouldnt be able to use the keyboard comfortably so i thought i would get more use out of an 8bitdo controller. also is it worth it to pay for the 12 gigs of ram instead of 8? thanks :>

>>7647894
Maybe he has no camera?

>>7647937
Or maybe he's just op replying to his own thread trying to make chinese tablets look bad, like he's been doing for literal years.

Just look at past threads, only on /dtg/ you find post of people saying they bought something, asking if it's actually garbage, posting a stock photo instead of one they took themselves and getting replied that yes, it indeed it's low quality garbage like you thought and you should buy Wacom®. It's so painfully obvious, how's this still a thing?

>>7647910
No, please don't get that overpriced shitty keyboard cover. It scratches up your screen really bad. Just use a normal case or cover. Use the extra cash to get a paperlike protector and a nicer stylus, maybe some metal nibs too.

I'd definitely recommend getting a bluetooth keyboard (I think I have logitech pebble), an 8bitdo thats compatible with their app, or if you spend all your time in CSP only then a tabmate.

>>7648031
>Or maybe he's just op
Usually posts like that are him, yes. Most anons here who actually draw have posted pics of their desks and tablets. I don't think OP has ever posted one, not once in the 6 or 7 years he's been doing this.

>>7648069
ok thank you :) i have a logitech keyboard too so i guess thats covered, why the metal nibs? i was planning to order felt nibs, i havent looked into getting a different stylus, i dont know if itll work with the hover cursor feature

>>7648080
>why the metal nibs?
Specifically if you're going to use a paperlike screen protector, they eat up nibs FAST and some of those nibs are expensive. If you're just going to draw on glass or a matte screen protector you don't need it.

>was planning to order felt nibs
Felt is good but with paperlikes it is much less durable than regular plastics that get worn down quickly. It feels good on glass though.

>i havent looked into getting a different stylus, i dont know if itll work with the hover cursor feature
All samsung compatible pens are Wacom EMR, all of which absolutely do hover cursor.

You have a lot of good options (picrel is most of the list). I have the Wacom One stylus, staedtler noris (i regret not getting the jumbo one though), and the Dr. Grip pen stylus myself.

They all feel a bit different, so if you do want one you should try the one that emulates what you like to draw with. Dr. Grip feels hard like a pen and you can click the stylus tip in and out of it. The pencils are a bit softer and its tilt threshhold is very low so its easy to make big strokes with the side of the pencil. The wacom one obviously feels like your standard digital tablet pen.

>>7648031
I was just asking if there were any hardware faults that I need to look out for since I'm able to replace blown capacitors and stuff like that :( I also did t feel like posting a photo
I guess even 4vhan art community is the same as reddit

>>7648585
Liar

>>7648127
>Metal nibs and paper like screen protector
do I need those for S6 lite that I ordered?

God I hate this fucking thread

>>7649077
Why? Just ignore the anti-chinese schizo, the anti-anti-chinese schizo, newfags asking questions they can just google, people complaining about the thread, people complaining about people complaining about the thread and it's fine.

I'm a richfag who like trying out cheap brands. Give any drawing tablet to try out.

>>7649346
give me any drawing tablet to try out and I'll review them*

>>7649050
If you dislike the rubber pen on glass or really enjoy paper and pencil then I suppose so.

>>7649346
Kek go see how Gaomon or Artisul is holding up.

>looking at getting either an iPad Pro or a Galaxy Tab Ultra
>they both have OLED screens
Is that really okay? Don't drawing tablets just not have these because of burn-in or whatever?

>>7649586
Almost like they aren't drawing tablets and are designed primarily with tiktok doomscrolling in mind.
Mdp is miles better as a drawing tool.

>>7649724
>Mdp is miles better as a drawing tool.
That is a program, not a tablet, althoughbeit
Unless I read the acronym wrong.

>>7649724
>Almost like they aren't drawing tablets and are designed primarily with tiktok doomscrolling in mind.
OP says they "completely outclass" the Cintiqs

>>7649734
Magic drawing pad, xppen's standalone
It has an etched glass screen and uses their normal desktop pen digitizer

>>7649742
Op is a retard that doesn't draw. I would take a 10 year old cintiq over an ipad or Samsung tab.

Am I good with a Oneplus pad 3?

>>7646150
>Replace the nib when its getting sharp
Its sorta like picrel (very exaggerated). I don't think that its responsible for the change in friction as its something i felt since i got it. Also do these nibs look familiar to someone? I heard that my pen is compatible with some other brands that might not be so expensive.

>What stylus or tablet do you have?
Its a Lazarite M Pen on a x390 yoga. Has a very tiny amount of jitter when perpendicular to the screen and sometimes bad wobble at large angles. The price however was unbeatable i think for a all in one solution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt4QcnPyALc

>>7649586
I use a galaxy tab daily and I haven't had burn in issues yet. That's more an issue with stuff like a TV that's always on the same channel getting a logo burnt into the corner, or signal/time/battery% on the top corners of your phone.

It's not going to happen from you drawing on it.

>>7650145
>11"
Why so fucking tiny? Also price? Pen?

>>7650338
I answered my own questions
>$450
>android 14
>etched glass
>pro pen 3
>Helio G99

Specs-wise it looks nearly identical to the MDP but an inch smaller. Wacom actually made something competitively priced on the market
Can't wait for retard op to pretend it's something groundbreaking and unique

>>7650347
refresh rate? Looked at the vid and it seems to lag a bit (though it might be video lag)

>>7650359
I can't find anything but I'd guess 60hz
At $450 it's probably just a rebranded tablet from a chink company with a wacom digitizer attached and some art features included, same deal as xppen

considering getting a wacom one to replace my surface pro 5. mainly using to draw on the side with fresco ideally on windows. any exp?

I have tried my new S6 lite with Krita. It is very weird so far. Compared to my H610 I have a lot of trouble controlling the line thickness. It seems very hard in comparison. Also I will need to set up some undo button on the interface somewhere if it's possible because I am very dependent on undoing which I noticed only after not being able to easily do it. I can try something else. What is the best free drawing program on android?
>>7649366
>If you dislike the rubber pen on glass or really enjoy paper and pencil then I suppose so.
I don't care I'll get used to whatever it feels like. I just want to know if the screen gets ruined without it? Or if you get metal nib without protector. Although I am used to a feeling of very used screenless tablet which is more resistant than slippery new tablet but less resistant than pencil on paper.

Is there a difference between these two, wtf?

>>7650544
One makes blue lines and comes with an astronaut, cant you see?

>>7650489
Can you adjust pen pressure settings in krita? I hate the stylus that comes with samsungs, it's very soft and mushy. I usually have to up the pressure to hard with those.

If you get the stylus made for the wacom one it has side buttons that you can program for undo if you want. I don't know if rawdogging your glass with metal nibs is a good idea or not, I'd at least put another glass screen protector in between them or maybe a matte one but not paperlike kind since you like the smoothness. But if you don't want paperlike anyways, you wouldn't need metal nibs, plastic and felt are probably fine.

>>7650544
Just different sellers I guess.

>>7650489
>What is the best free drawing program on android?
Infinite painter, ibis paint, autodesk sketchbook, hipaint, tayasui sketches, krita, medibang paint.
They've all go different pros/cons brush feel and ui so try them and see what you like. I think all of them except krita and medibang need some kind of payment to become tolerable (to bypass tool locks and ads)

>>7650569
>>7650585
Thanks. I'll try adjusting the sensitivity when I get home. What I really don't like about this s pen is how thin it is. It's thinner than regular pencil while styli are usually thicker than thick pens for less crampersome grip.

>>7650145
>just draw
I dont get it

>>7650618
Yeah the s-pen is made for quick note taking, not so much for long stints of drawing. Even the thin pencil styluses feel better to hold than that shit.

>>7650544
Left is a 01 V2 listing that has been changed to a 01 V3 listing, so no, no real difference anymore.

>>7650359
Refresh rate: 60/90 Hz
Based on the specficiations here:
https://www.wacom.com/en-us/products/wacom-movinkpad-11#Specifications
I'm now wondering if I should get the new 24/16 inch 2025 cintiq or this thing, if it were 16gb and 250gb space I would've probably picked it up, not sure.
I have an Ipad pro 2 due to the recommendations here like 4 years ago and it's been great with procreate unfortunately the battery and charging does get annoying.

>>7651025
11in is too small imo
get the biggest one you can afford

>>7651036
11 inch is just fine the ipad pro 2 i have is the 12 inch one, it's like the size of a medium intuos pro.
The only bad thing about it is adopting bad posture drawing it like a sketchbook flat on your desk since it's so small and i dont like the idea of using a stand for such a small screen.
I also travel at times so just carrying and drawing on it seems ideal, also not having to carry a separate lightning cable for it and losing the little charging adapter ipads have is a huge plus especially since usbc charges my phone and laptop too, I think this is as good as the 16 inch 2024 cintiq if not better since it's portable and also has touch.
So with all of it combined I think it's between buying this one to replace my ipad pro 2 or a cintiq 24 touch to replace my smaller old monitor.
Both have disadvantages though, one is not portable and not on par with the other chinese brands that seem to give out 4k display and such for a cheaper price and the movinkpad has a lower than ideal specs and also does not have procreate.
It will be a tough decision.

>>7651044
The 1 inch difference is significant.
12-13 is the perfect size for portables, bigger starts to feel cumbersome and smaller feels cramped

>>7651049
The 1 inch is nothing to worry about atleast for me.

>>7651053
I don't really see the upside to this over xppen's unless you just really want to support wacom for some reason
You can even use wacom pens on the xppen
They're the same device, ones just smaller

>>7651025
>>7651044
Damn, screen size is not a problem for me; my main problem is refresh rate. processor and pen experience
I'd go for an Ipad air since it atleast deals with two of those problems since the M3 is alright, but the fact that you can't do anything other than play with the OS store in IpadOS bugs me the fuck out, and the 60hz screen isn't helping either

I'd hope for at least an snapdragon 8 gen 1,2,3, solid refresh rate tablet with decent pen support

Why do people get autistic over refresh rate with drawing? It literally doesn't matter

>>7651083
>Why do people get autistic over refresh rate with drawing? It literally doesn't matter
Anon from >>7651083
It's just the 60hz that causes a little bit of lag, a 90hz does the job just fine, this is why I said it's the least of the problems, but it's still an interest non

>>7651083
>Why do people get autistic over refresh rate with drawing? It literally doesn't matter
Anon from >>7651081
It's just the 60hz that causes a little bit of lag, a 90hz does the job just fine, this is why I said it's the least of the problems, but it's still an interest non

>>7651060
I haven't used xppen products in the past, back when I was looking at display options wacom and xp pen were selling their old 12 inch options that probably go for like $50 now a days, it's developed further over the years however I tried huion instead because it was selling an intuos alternative for like $75 which had 8k pen pressure and I didn't want to buy some $350 screenless tablet for the same specs (for that same price i could've gotten the 12 inch display but those were still very experimental and had like 5 different cables for it so i didn't want to splash money for it either).
I only got my ipad pro 2 because it was a very old model then and I even got mine which was a refurbished one so it was just about $350 and performed well for a good enough number of years with constant updates and so on.
My reasoning to get a display wacom now is because I'm no longer a student and am working so I can simply afford it. There are other reasons for it which may seem generic like how my expectations for these tools are that it will be build well, supported long term and have an overall solid experience working with it. The ipad pro 2 i purchased was incredibly old by the time i had it and yet it still gets updates, it still works with procreate, it never cracked or bent when i threw it around, the pen is solid, the glass doesn't even have a scratch on it, it's very well done and the only thing it didn't beat was the natural course of time with the cables and the battery. Not that this was refurbed so it was beat up and used by others before me.

>>7651060
I also know these wacom tablets have the same strong history of delivering these types of things, that if I take care of it well it will treat me good back, yes it's expensive but I know it will last me a decade of work and abuse. Also the xppen stuff has the same specs yes, but it's got an older android version and the same 8gb of ram, also to be honest because it seems to have a better and more vibrant screen I bet it will somewhat get hot over time and wont be good for the battery which will be difficult to replace, I'm unsure if xp pens offer battery replacements for their tablets but I know I could atleast try to get it repaired with wacom over time. Though ideally it would be 16gb ram and so on since even basic things like browsing the internet takes up so much ram thesedays it's ridiculous. Also the wacom one I heard was going to be only like $500 or so? I don't mind spending $50 extra for it, that amount doesn't really matter to me. But yes I don't want to be nitt picky or anything

>>7651081
Yes I also hated the Ipad's OS, I was using my ipad as a book reader and it basically struggled to do basic things like downloading and opening books or even downloading music/podcasts (you need itunes for it? really dumb).
Essentially I just used my ipad to draw and upload things in google drive from procreate or download adobe brushes in procreate because it could atleast do that smoothly.
With android things will be much nicer though I'll have to dabble on the art softwares here and there for an ideal procreate replacement because I really liked their pencil ones though I have the kayle webster or whatevers brush sets so I might be fine.

>>7651098
I wouldn't get the MDP with android 12, it's getting a hw refresh with 14 and tilt support
and I'd wait for reviews of the movink, it seems good in paper but it will all depend on how well they integrated their pen tech into the white label hw

>>7651112
I'm waiting for the reviews too, need to cross compare and make do with what I have.
Also yes because this is wacoms first (?) ipad alternative it would be rough, maybe next year they'll release something actually decent since they released something cheaper with the current 2025 tablets based on feedback from the cintiq pro $3k displays though the specs again seem a bit inferior to the asian alternatives.

>>7651081
>>I'd hope for at least an snapdragon 8 gen 1,2,3, solid refresh rate tablet with decent pen support
Damn, I'm looking for something like this too

>>7651122
If you want something with decent specs but hasn't come by just save your money for the golden goose.
I know people complain about the prices of these things but these things will obliviously take time to get better and cheaper overtime, the worst thing that can possibly happen if and when it does release is not being able to afford it.
You have time now so just save save save.

>>7651133
>I know people complain about the prices of these things but these things will obliviously take time to get better and cheaper overtime, the worst thing that can possibly happen if and when it does release is not being able to afford it.
This is why I was asking if anyone had experience with the Oneplus pad 3, just came out, has a Snapdragon 8 elite and a 144hz refresh rate and pen support
https://www.oneplus.com/global/oneplus-pad-3
I saw an artist reviewer deem pen experience on this thing a "7.5" but that doesn't explain if the pen has tilt, decent feel or other features, and there's so little reviews of it since it's still kinda new, let alone drawing focused ones. If it has a decent pen it'd be pretty neat

>>7651112
>it's getting a hw refresh with 14 and tilt support
it's already out
>>7651098
>if I take care of it well it will treat me good back, yes it's expensive but I know it will last me a decade of work and abuse
an android 14 tablet with a low-mid end cpu? no chance. it's already running an outdated OS that will probably lose support from most drawing programs in 2-3 years.
>Also the xppen stuff has the same specs yes, but it's got an older android version
they're both on android 14. There's almost no difference between the devices other than ~1" of screen real estate and $50.

>>7651203
>it's already out
it depends on the region, for example, the brazil store lists the new one, and the US still has the old one)

>>7651226
>and the US still has the old one
then how did I get the new one from xppen's website while living in the US?

>>7651242
>>7651226
just checked because I was confused, if you look at the mdp on their website it shows the old model, but if you click to buy it the link goes to the new one.

>>7651242
>>7651289
oh I see
if you already have it, have you tried the dp-in and to use it as a classic display tablet?

>>7651293
I have not, I actually forgot that was even a feature it had. I have a desktop tablet so it's not something I'll ever use
If you already have an old one and don't use csp or don't care about getting csp updates, I don't think any of the new things with it are worth upgrading for personally

In the spirit of chink tech.
/ic/, what are your thoughts on the chinese retro handhelds that are now popular like Retroid, Anbernic and Ayaneo?
What does OP think about these?
Retro Game Corps surely thinks fondly of these, he shills them, that's for sure but he is being honest in his reviews

>>7651175
I think the stylo pen is more made for note taking. Didn't Teoh review it a few times? He usually goes really in depth as far as what features there are and how the tilt and stuff is.

>>7651347
am I in the wrong general? why are we discussing shitty handheld gaming console?

>>7651382
They are chinese technology as well

>>7651347
>>>/g/105937208
or alternatively
>>>/vr/11875145

>>7634334 (OP)
>screenless tablets
>can look directly at glorious 4K monitor
>your hand doesn't obscure what you're drawing, you always see it all
>don't have to bend over like a peasant, you can maintain correct posture like a nobleman
>easy one cable connection, no need to deal with multiple cables
Why would anyone ever bother with screenshit?

>>7651770
>don't have to bend over like a peasant, you can maintain correct posture like a nobleman
USE A FUCKING STAND
I swear pen tablet peasants are the dumbest motherfuckers

>>7651770
>Why would anyone ever bother with screenshit?
So I can draw comfortably while being railed by my horsecock attached Lovense bro, what's your problem?

>>7651922
>he has to go to the trouble of setting up a whole stand
Screen peasants always make me laugh

>>7652013
This fucking loser doesn't have a monitor stand on his "glorious 4k monitor" LMAO

>>7652013
>he has to go to the trouble of setting up a whole stand
>Screen peasants always make me laugh
You hold the monitor with your hands bro? Because I think you can guess what it stands on

>>7650145
>>7650347
>>7651025
>Helio G99
>60 hz
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD IT'S 450$ AT LEAST PUT A FUCKING SNAP 8 GEN 1 AND A 122HZ ON THE THING

>>7651770
apple pencil connects via bluetooth, mongrel

>>7652441
>122HZ
are you gaming on it or what? Who needs 122hz for drawing?

>>7652483
>are you gaming on it or what? Who needs 122hz for drawing?
I suppose you can't ask for 122hz on 2025 when even the most dogwater chinese knockoff phones have 122hz at minimum nowadays?

>>7652486
So you want a color accurate, low latency(no pen lag), and high refresh in a display? The display alone would nuke the budget and you also want a better soc?
Maybe, but not for this price.

>>7638457
It's not enough that you recommend your garbage quality tablets that you have to recommend your garbage quality chinese pens? for an iPad of all things?

>>7652591
I just typed something randomly that sounded like it could be a pen, is it really one? lmao

>>7652499
nta but you know what, you're right
just buy the wacom movink, please just buy it

>>7652499
>450 USD
>Helio G99
>Would nuke the budget
I'm starting to know why wacomfags are publicly shamed nowadays

XP-Pen Magic Drawing Pad GEN2
https://www.youtube.com/live/ixB873qU9mU?si=Cmm0UpcMvBDaOoia

Wacom Movinkpad
https://www.youtube.com/live/e1Auu98rPMY?si=J_ke_h-QLHbDMo9S

Some early videos, waiting for more, the movink seems nicer but the review/discussion/distance doesnt seem that well to conclude for sure.

Will sit on this thread while product content are being published, I've been waiting around for more opinions.

You guys worry too much, just buy a fucking tablet and draw.
Like 2-3 commissions will cover the cost.

>>7653280
I appreciate people trying to get value out of their money, also I'd rather buy something and make it last as long as possible than consume the next new thing over and over, it's wasteful.

>>7653291
>I appreciate people trying to get value out of their money
Nobody is getting value out of their money buying chinese crap like XP Pen and Huion. That trash will impede workflow because the pressure response is so bad.

>>7653295
You wouldn't know that and their stats seem similar to wacom. But I'm not going to bother arguing further about this brand loyalty stuff especially on a Friday night.
I think competition is good, it's why wacom dropped from making $3k screens to $1.3k now while the other brands have been improving their side of things whilst keeping things cheap.
Don't care about whatever else this going further on cya for now.

>>7653295
it's funny because I have both an xppen and huion tablet that have paid for themselves more than 3 times over in just the last month, meanwhile you haven't even made enough over the past 8 years shilling wacom to pay for the 20 year old intuos 3 you jerk off to every night.

>>7650145
>450 USD
>Helio g99
>An african-chinese chinkphone at 127 usd has a better processor than this
I am... perplexed honestly? I mean if you want to just (literally) focus on drawing the tablet's going to do the job... (excluding any 3d function whatsoever, or any other function for that matter) so if you want to start without thinking too much, I guess?
I've seen deals on 350 for the galaxy tab s10 fe and it completely blows this thing out of the water though

>>7653462
>I mean if you want to just (literally) focus on drawing the tablet's going to do the job
an art tablet is only focused on doing art??????????????? no way what the fuck!!!

>>7653473
>an art tablet is only focused on doing art??????????????? no way what the fuck!!!
Does that defend it for being overpriced for the features it gives? I don't understand your point mister

>>7653477
the used the budget that samsung wasted on a cpu to instead give you a proper digitizer and screen. They focused on things that will directly effect drawing instead of worrying about being able to play whatever gachaslop and tiktok scrolling.

like I said in a previous post, this is very likely not a wacom product.
This is a xiao guo mi yen product rebranded with a wacom digitzer and screen, exactly the same as what xppen did with the MDP. The magic drawing pad is a rebranded tcl nxtpaper 12 I think it was with some xppen hardware added.
It keeps cost down on r&d which means they can sell it at a more reasonable price, since shit like the $4000 mobilestudio or the $1500 kamvas studio are much harder sells than a $400-500 android tablet that they know works.

>>7653478
>wasted on a cpu
CSP runs smooth as fuck on my tab ultra and it absolutely did NOT run like this on my tab with ass CPU like the movink has. I do full size files with a shit ton of layers, it never lags.

Picrel, movink has the Helio G99 compared to samsung. Even an 11" samsung would mog this trash.

>to instead give you a proper digitizer and screen.
Samsung uses Wacom EMR digitizers. Both devices are OLED screens, same color accuracy too. Samsung has a better refresh rate and resolution.

Are you retarded? You have to be trolling, right?

>>7653484
>this is very likely not a wacom product.
>This is a xiao guo mi yen product rebranded with a wacom digitzer and screen
OP trying to cope with the sudden undeniable realization that Wacum is capable of releasing trash products

>>7653581
>Samsung uses Wacom EMR digitizers
It uses the bare bones shit wacom digitizer that's found on only their entry level poverty devices. You can't even use a pro pen on it. It is not the same digitizer.
Again, their development budget was spent on making it a good drawing experience, not on making it good for media consumption.
I sold my iPad because it got absolutely fucking mogged by the MDP, because specs mean very little on low requirement apps like csp. All that matters is that it's good enough while providing an excellent drawing experience.

I don't even like wacom, I think they're Jewish faggots, but you're being retarded.

>>7653593
They can use the same styluses, anon. It's the same digitizer.

>>7653617
No, they can't.
The movinkpad uses wacom's normal pro pen that the cintiq uses. Samsung tabs use the bottom of the barrel trash pen from the wacom one.

>iPad
>Galaxy Tab
>MovinkPad
>Magic Drawing Pad
call me when any of these have an actually decently sized screen
I don't care how convenient or easy or portable it is, I can't be bothered with shit that small when I'm used to a 24 inch 4k tablet

>>7653626
>Why do these portable tablets prioritize being portable?
https://store.huion.com/products/kamvas-studio-24

>Check the thread 5 years later
>same shill still runs it every day

Hi, it's me, the actual Chang. While you were posting here every single I worked on VN about lolies fucking a horse. And how is your day of shilling going? Don't be sad, suicide is always an option.

I'm asking everybody other than OP.
I'm looking for a large screen tablet currently not sure between Kamvas Pro 19 4k (new) vs Kamvas Pro 22 4k (last years)

Huion seems to have recently released Pen Tech 4.0 but the largest model right now is 19", the 22" offerings weren't updated yet.

Am I gonna regret settling for 19"? Or do I get a last gen 22"? Should I just wait for a 22" update?

I would like some actual artist's opinion, the psycho shill running the thread for 6 years doesn't need to reply.

I have a cintiq 16, whats the cheapest and functioning monitor arm I can mount this? My back hurts like ass from work and I need a better posture.

Uhhh?

>>7653801
Cintiq should come with a stand wacom has: https://estore.wacom.com/en-de/wacom-adjustable-stand-ack651kz.html
Or get whatever stand that supports a versa 75 back and what you want out of it in terms of tilting rotating, etc. Because I wanted something that I could use as a monitor a drawing thing and be able to rotate it 90 degrees when i want at times I was thinking of buying a Huion Desktop Arm ST500 since it seems to do everything but there is a big thread on Reddit about it saying how it's just a different product with Huions logo on it and sold at a premium so idk, I don't like how a lot of the options seem flimsy or just a bit too much with the arms.

>>7653809
yeah I have that wacom stand, its not bad, but I still slouch over too much, thats why I'm thinking of a vesa arm. Rotation is not really my concern only height, so it'l not give me shrimp posture.

>>7653812
Have you considered getting a height adjustable table instead? The arms always look like they're bouncing and stuff though I've never had it so I shouldn't comment.

>>7653813
honestly i never thought about it, I was only thinking about getting it closer to my face, hence why I need a long arm, essentially forcing me to sit straight while drawing.

>>7653789
Personally I think 22 is the perfect size for a desktop tablet, and I doubt you'd see a massive difference between pentech 3+ and 4, but I've never tried a 19 so I'm not sure how they are. I've used a 16 and thought it was serviceable, but I wouldn't want to use it as my main drawing device or as a second monitor
You could do what I did and buy the tablets you're looking for on Amazon then return them

>>7653813
The slight bouncing doesn't really matter, your back and neck not being in agony is much more important.
The Amazon basics arm is supposedly pretty good, or if you can find a 2nd hand ergotron
I have a no name brand from a thrift store I got for $17 and I love it

>>7653626
Okay? You're a size queen, we get it, anon. Is your sketchbook 24" too?

>>7653623
The movink uses both.

>>7653789
If you want a 22" you should probably just get a 22". You can get a big pad of paper and cut it to the 19" and 22" screen's measurements and then draw on them - are they so different that it bothers you?

>>7653623
>No, they can't
It uses both, dropped my pic

>>7654192
nigger are you dumb? the movink being backwards compatible with worse pens doesn't mean it uses the same digitizer as the galaxy tab that's only compatible with shit pens.
you can not use a pro pen 3 with the galaxy tab. it is not the same digitizer. holy fuck

>>7654180
most sane wacom shiller

>>7654180
>You can get a big pad of paper and cut it to the 19" and 22" screen's measurements and then draw on them
make sure to only account for actual canvas size if you do this, because generally in things like CSP, you lose ~1/3 of your screen to ui elements.

>>7653623
>This nigga really believes buying a dead-on-arrival borderline african tier decade old processor chink refurbished tablet is worth 450$ for a shiny rebranded "new" digitizer
Yep, the movink pad seems the perfect fit for you non!

I kind of get anon's complaint, when drawing on my MDP I can get up to 25ish layers on a 2k canvas before it starts to shit the bed (using infinite painter)
tablets with nicer processors and 16gb of ram would make these things more useful when wanting to take sketches further

>>7654552
Yes even mobile phones have decent processors and 16gb rams these days, the tablets are a larger hardware and should be more than capable of being equipped with better specs regardless of the screen displays and the pen support, phones even have quite a decent display and are used for gaming and such. I do think they're lowballing consumers with the specifications however I'm not interested in buying another ipad and having to be locked into apples workflows and restrictions. Even laptops struggle with browsers thesedays because they're so resource intensive though mind you apps are built different but I would presume these modern softwares and applications are no better at optimization. These objective restrictions only damns the product to be useable for a short few years till it can't anymore.

>>7654289
Brother I hate wacom. And I don't think a wacum shill would be telling people to buy a huion.

>>7654552
Yep, exactly. I think MDP is more meant as a sketchbook, or for beginners that don't really need a powerful device yet.

>>7654552
>when drawing on my MDP I can get up to 25ish layers on a 2k canvas before it starts to shit the bed
lmao what?
One piece I did with my mdp had 108 layers at 4000x3400
is infinite painter just that fucking worthless?

>>7654527
I draw with my tablet, I don't play genshin or zzz or whatever fotm gachaslop you're currently jerking off to.

>>7654652
I still like it and its brush engine, but you can't compare between one dude's project and an actual company
haven't tried csp on it (which I assume you use) due to my hatred of subscription jewishness

>>7654657
>but you can't compare between one dude's project and an actual company
I can if they want me to use their software.
Csp is well worth $1/month (get during a sale)

>>7654562
It's wacom. They have people like guzzler to keep buying their shit regardless of how much they're being shortchanged. Like some turd world countries used to only have Toyotas, Hondas and Suzukis making decent cars so they could price them exorbitant. But 20 years later chinks started making similarly decent cars at cheaper price (because surprise, a country with 1 billion population makes an automotive industry at faster pace than an aging population country of 180 mil people). Those same people are still guzzling Toyotas and Hondas that costed 20-50% more while having less features (like no 360 degree camera? In 2025?! On a top range compact SUV?! I'm looking at you HR-V) than the chinks. It's all about ego at this point.

So, uh, I was looking for a /beg/ tablet and decided on the ctl4100. Is the small size good or should I have picked the medium one?
I did ignore the OP schizo and looked up reviews for XP Pen tablets on the same price range, but even redditors pointed out some glaring flaws with them, like terrible drivers, bugs or how easily the screen scratches, so at the end they even reccomended the cheapest wacom instead.
I also considered a Galaxy Tab, but apparently the S6 Lite 2024 is very underpowered (even for drawing and note taking) and the S10 FE feels like an overkill for a beginner. In any case, I hope I can get one later as I learn how to draw and earn commissions from making furry porn.

>>7655088
Get the medium, unless you have atiny monitor or something. The bigger your screen, the bigger you'll want your pen tablet to be to match up better.

>>7655088
yeah can't recommend anything smaller than a medium
buy used if it's out of your budget

>>7655088
I would not recommend a wacom intuos small or medium, looking at the specifications it states that it only has:
- 4,096 pen pressure
- 3 spare nibs (standard)
- bluetooth requiring charging
- uses the fat pen design instead of the new slim ones, which may not be ideal for a newbie to get used to
- express buttons being on the top instead of on the side like the old design seems like counterintuitive design

Years also I figured the intuos was already an outdated and outclassed range since the alternative brands were providing better screenless hardware specifications and content. I went with the Huion H950P instead of an intuos because it had:
- 8192 pen pressure
- 8 standard spare nibs with a pen holder
- no bluetooth, no charging
- similar active area and size
- fat pen just like wacoms (but they eventually got rid of the charging bit which is very good)
- express buttons on the side to mirror if youre left or right handed and use the spare hand or drawing hand's fingers to press intuitively on the sides
Also to get a basic 8192 pen pressure (which should've been a standardised feature at this point) you had to pay for an intuos pro which back then went from costing $100 to something stupid like $320 for the same thing but with more pressure. Meanwhile Huion only cost me about $60-75 back then for the same "pro" experience. I'm unsure about now but back then there was also a lot of complaints with wacom nibs running out suspiciously fast so I'm unsure if that's still the case thesedays but not providing the other 2 new nibs with the 3rd being the standard one is a bit sleazy. But overall if you want a screenless tablet consider the Asian alternatives. There's no point getting kinda upset about "oh but it's Chinese and maybe it's poorer quality" since screenless tablets are by design supposed to be cheap by this point when there's other crazy things like screen displays for drawing, etc that atleast requires some margin of innovation and criticism.

>>7655080
Yes they're getting milked but they have a reason to do so because Wacom has been a thing for decades now, the course will eventually and indefinitely change later on if things keep going this way however only if the competitors live long enough to build the same rep Wacom had, this naturally takes time and honestly I do believe the Chinese were ever able to make strong and cheap competition because they were able to copy the patterns off Wacoms design since they're the ones manufacturing the components to make everything, this is also why a lot of other Chinese products are also making a hard stance and why people are kinda getting over the old idea of "Chinese means cheap and unreliable", this same phase was done so with Japanese products back then too until they began innovating further and making stuff like Walkmans where you could listen to music portably and other things like robotics so now you don't hear that about Japanese things anymore. This is a similar pattern with the Chinese products, the only issue now will be the innovation bit which will be difficult because not only is making ground breaking things difficult and extremely costly due to risks but knowledge has become more and more precise due to the level of depths some of the niche subjects have become making research time consuming, so for now they will just look at what the golden standards are and try to copy it and try to make it consistent and sturdy. Wacom, if it wants to live up to it's hype, will have to do better which will require atleast making 8k pen pressure the norm and listening to feedback. So far it seems like they've just been rehashing or experimenting while their strong lines like the cintiq and intuos are getting a bit dated in terms of what they provide.

>>7654653
You don't have a tablet and you don't draw. You've never posted a single pic of your tablet on your desk, much less with any of your art, and you probably never will. The only pic you have ever posted was a laptop in some shitty room with porn cams and /dtg/, no tablet, no drawings. You just like to stir shit and fuck around in your retarded thread sucking wacum dick while watching gay camboys all day.

>>7655208
Wwll, I looked a review and it says this
>As you can see, there appears to be more wobble the more tilted you hold the pen, which is obviously not ideal. However, the “normal” pen angle is completely fine and usable, despite being slightly wobbly.
That's a no for me.

>>7655243
Why do you guys never use a pen stabilizer feature when and if you guys care about smoothness of lines? Something like this smoothing on in Photoshop.

>>7655247
*smoothing menu on Photoshop.

>>7655247
Ask the guy who did the review.

>>7655251
Ok I'm just saying these are kind of a nonissue since application should have a stabilization feature, I know even Procreate does.
Idk if I can use my huion to experiment and make webms but I can try

>>7655243
Ok here's the result for it. I used the one I got from 2020. Mind you I use ipad exclusively so I've lost touch with non displays and I typically draw fast pace and at a 90 degree only.
The left is my poor attempt at it without the stabilizer and the right is with the stabilizer. It's the same tablet but you get cleaner steady lines on the right with less wobbles.
Personally never cared for the jittering still because sometimes I use my mouse if I've missed a line here or there with 100% smoothing on when I import my drawings from my ipad to photoshop in pc and the lines are normal enough even then using it. I don't really think the wobbles would make or break a deal regardless, not if I can get by without paying extra for the tablet when I can just use a feature on a software for free.
Line Tests: https://files.catbox.moe/2pem2j.mp4
Free hand drawing: https://files.catbox.moe/ct632w.mp4

>>7655243
>checked out the article
>suggests H1060P instead, stopped using wacom and doing tablet reviews because they found it to be the best for their liking
H1060P landsweep..
semi-shitposts aside
>That's a no for me.
>decided on the ctl4100
The tablet you bought doesn't even have tilt support, so if not being able to draw heavily tilted is an important issue for you, then you've avoided one carcrash and stepped into another.

Anyway, while the topic of Huion tablets are still going hot: I'm still asshurt about the Inspiroy Frego coming with a slim pen rather than a regular, I get that they're trying to clear their warehouses from this shit but fuck me do I hate slim pens, there's no choice for it to be shipped with a regular instead and buying one is like over half of the entire bundles cost itself anyway.

>>7655302
You can use a non-metal ruler to rule out hand wobble for these

>>7655585
Yeah i'm just showing how lines can be stable regardless of a ruler or not.
I think he used a ruler to suggest the translation between the pen to mouse in the computer is terrible hence the wobbles but it's not really that big of an issue even for a model that I purchased like 5 years ago.

I'd like to seriously start drawing and animating with a graphics tablet and I travel a lot, so I need something that's easy to carry with me and has a screen. Which tablet should I get?

Is there a reason to buy expensive screenless tablets when you can go with drawing tablets that have a screen?

>>7656297
If you have a laptop/phone then wacom movink 13 inch probably because it's quite thin and seems to have a decent display.
If you want something portable then consider tablets, there are stuff like samsung ones, ipads, xp pens magic drawing pad, you will have to consider the software options and restrictions for those however due to limitations on the tablets own os. The good thing about these are that they're not too expensive and you can consider older models if you're low on money.
If you want something bigger then I'd recommend the new wacom cintiq's 16 inch since it's fanless and has less bezels so making it lighter and some people have mentioned they can just plug and play with the usb-c port only, it should also come with a stand, should be about the same price as the movink, however i'd recommend you use this only if you have a laptop. It should fit in a suitcase/laptop bag just fine.
I think huion also has a surface book-like product called Kamvas Studio which basically looks like a tablet but is an entire pc. I don't know much about it but that is a thing.

>>7656315
No there isn't, the only you would consider it would be if, for the same price, your options of screen tablets (which would be the cheapest ones) would not perform or be built well enough to spend the money on. By this I mean like the screen would probably not be ideal, the size, pen pressure, refresh rates, messy cables, etc. That is why some people did not buy wacoms cintiq 12wx years ago because it was too much of a hassle for what it was worth despite having a screen. Though if you could get a display tablet with the current choices but 2nd hand or refurbed it'd probably be worth the risk since display tablets have become better over the years.
But regardless even if you considered other screenless tablets you would be spending a lot less, about $75 or so instead of $320 over wacoms intuos's for the same size, specs, etc. There is absolutely no point buying intuos.

>>7656347
>wacom movink
>with this cpu
Bro no fucking way you are suggesting this shit
>>7653581

>>7656363
I said wacom movink not wacom movinkpad, those are two different things...

>>7656370
Oh kek my bad man

>>7655223
I think you're very confused with who I am, I'm not the schizo op.
It's weird to me people are freaking out about the wacom tablet using a midling cpu when the xppen tablet that's at an identical pricepoint has the identical hardware and software, with the only tangible difference being an extra 1".

I also don't get who the wacom is for other than people that slurp up wacum for every meal, since again, the mdp is the same exact thing but a better size.

>>7655243
>>7655302
none of these wobbly lines are a result of the pen. Look at the ipad's wobble if you want a good example of diagonals caused by the pen and not just human error.
the undulations are all perfectly uniform.
>>7655302
this shit especially looks like he handed the tablet to his fucking toddler. If an artist can't draw a line straighter than that, you should not be listening to them for a review.

>>7656363
again, the cpu is irrelevant for 99.9% of use cases for a drawing tool. You don't need the latest and greatest snapdragon. Post a single thing you've drawn or I'm just going to stop replying to this stupid shit and assume you're a tech geek and not an artist.

>>7656419
No you don't need the latest and greatest, but you do need something that isn't complete dogshit.
>pyw
I asked you first. Go on, post your tablet and work, OP, and I'll show you mine as a courtesy.

>>7656416
I'm going to be very honest the wacom is cheaper than the mdp by the looks of it on my end. Mdp is cheaper by like £20 but only because it's on sale at the moment. But comparing the retail price the wacom is £389.99 while mdp is £449.99.

>>7656417
Yes it was a quick one and I listed my reasons why in the post, I don't think the wobbles are a pen issue or anything. I genuinely do not think paying for an intuos is all it's worth thesedays.
I have an ipad pro 2 too if you want me to do further tests but unironically I'm quite satisfied with it's performance regardless and I don't think anyone here is going to argue over Ipads apart the restrictive aspects of apple products tend to carry.

>>7656429
>Go on, post your tablet and work
>>7642072
I have a magic drawing pad and a kamvas 22 plus

>>7656432
>but only because it's on sale at the moment
it's always "on sale". It's the classic tactic of price your item 20% higher than you want to sell it for, then run a 20% off sale year round
>genuinely do not think paying for an intuos is all it's worth thesedays.
100% agreed. I'd even argue there's no reason to buy wacom period these days. they're like adobe, they have overpriced shit because they got used to being the top dog with no competition, then their competitors caught up and offer something of equal value for cheaper.

my only problems with ipads are:
glossy screen sucks and screen protectors wear down
the pen(cil) is mediocre
and they have inherent wobble on diagonals that only gets worse with the use of a screen protector (which is almost a necessity to draw with)

>>7637552
anyone know this?

>>7656439
For felt nibs, I replace them when the felt wears through and plastic starts to show.
plastic nibs I have no idea, I'm still on my original plastic nib with my desktop tablet after 3 years and hundreds of hours of drawing. I just keep my tablet clean and always wear a glove, etched glass doesn't seem super abrasive so it barely wears down.

>>7656446
Thanks for replying but I should have added more info now that I've read through the thread a bit.
I'm using a Wacom intuos pro medium. So a screenless tablet.
Is the felt nibs the grey ones? And the plastics the black ones?

>>7656437
Regardless since the price differences are marginal I'm going to consider buying the movinkpad to replace my ipad.
I personally don't really care about the texture of the screen and quite appreciated how the ipad pencil never required me to worry about changing nibs, however my older model did need to get charged and the battery on it dies if I spend about 2-3 hours drawing on it so I do think it's time to get something different. I also did not care about the wobbles since I never did anything that requires clean lineart for me to get annoyed over it, I tend to just use the pencil brush and paint over things or work around mistakes so these things never bothered me.
I'm also curious about the new cintiq so will probably buy it along with the movink, this is again simply because the prices seem to be about the same and I'm interested in the fanless while still not overheating design, I'm not a professional so I will not require the crazy resolutions or billions of colors and intense levels of calibrations for film, movies or print so I'll just probably get it and use the components interchangeably. Though will keep my heads up if anything interesting and new comes by, if so I'll probably sell them for the other improved product regardless of the brand.

>>7656439
I tend to replace them when it's run out quite a bit, typically before it's just short enough to grip it and pull it out, this is also when the nib is ran through tilted and seems full on one angle, no point keeping that either.

>>7656453
Refer to what nibs are compatible with intous here: https://estore.wacom.com/en-gb/accessory-kit-for-intuos4-5-ack-40001.html
Then check out pic for a loose guide I guess.

I’m disappointed that the MovInkPad seems to be an entry-level thing aimed at kids and “beginners upgrading from a phone”. I can’t imagine anyone would be able to use Clip Studio on it for actual projects and large canvas sizes without it lagging and crashing.

>>7656462
>ACK

>>7656476
over 108 layers at 4000x3300 isn't enough for you? that's the most I've had with a tablet with a generation back cpu and it handled it fine.

>>7656462
going from a 13" ipad screen to an 11" screen is going to be a lot more significant of a drop than you think it will be.

>>7656481
>that's the most I've had with a tablet with a generation back cpu and it handled it fine.
which one anon

>>7656638
the first gen mdp which had an MT8771
The new one has the g99 (MT8781)

>>7656647
so the movinkpad is the same power as a gen2 mdp?
so they virtually the same but one is smaller

>>7656661
>so they virtually the same but one is smaller
yes
they use the same cpu, same os, same amount of ram, you can even use wacom pens on xppen tablets.
I guarantee wacom did not make the tablet. same deal with xppen, they literally just rebranded this
https://www.tcl.com/global/en/tablets/tcl-nxtpaper-12-pro
and added their digitizer and logo.

If you look at them next to each other, the only significant difference is 11" vs 12", and currently $25.
everything else is nearly identical or irrelevant marketing bullshit like higher lpi or pressure sensitivity.

>>7656688
>you can even use wacom pens on xppen tablets.
[Citation Needed]

so are any brands actually good

>>7656965
No. Staying loyal to only one specific brand is stupid especially if there are so many competitions and choices these days, you make do with what you have and what you'd like.

>>7656486
Already said this before, I don't really care about the size, but honestly if it does get annoying I can always just return the thing and get my money back.
One of the most annoying things about tablets is that I cannot seem to really find any place I can just try out the product, I have to go out of my way to buy it and get it returned. I think the last thing I managed to test irl on a store was a surface pro with pen and it absolutely helped me realise drawing is not going to be a good experience and saved me a lot of hassle.

>>7657005
>One of the most annoying things about tablets is that I cannot seem to really find any place I can just try out the product
Yeah that's a rough one. You can try places like Best Buy for samsung tabs, maybe other tech stores like MicroCenter, maybe photography/video stores. Some people do equipment rentals. If you meet someone in person for a sale you can let them know you'd like to test it out first to make sure it works and try it that way. Nothing wrong with trying it and then saying you dont like it.

I don't think we live in a high enough trust society right now to be able to just leave graphics tablets out at a store for people to test without having to replace them constantly from being stolen or broken.

>>7657015
I live in the UK so there are some malls that have electronics out to dabble but those are only for ipad tablets and laptops.
Best thing I can do is buy and return, which is fine since I guess I skip a lot of human interaction and the guy in the retail looking at me weird for returning a used item.
It's fine, I'll do what I can.

>>7657024
Doesnt amazon have a pretty good return policy especially in the UK?

You're probably gonna have to go hard at studying reviews until you have your choices narrowed down so you don't buy and return too much in a row.

>>7657028
Because the stuff I'm buying is new they will all be retail price everywhere so if I return in Amazon I can buy from wacom itself and so on.

>>7656920
There was a dude in this general that got the xl xppen tablet after using wacom and said his pen worked
If you just Google it, there are several results of people saying the same thing.
It's not perfect compatibility, but the emr digitizer will pick up the frequency. It's not magic.

>>7634334 (OP)
I impulse bought the 13in iPad pro with the new pencil when it was $130 off at Costco. Didn't realize the the 1tb models had 16gb ram and the one I got only has 8gb which means I can only work with 10 layers on a lower res canvas before Procreate will start shitting itself. I typically work on 4960x7016. Does anyone unironically use this thing by itself to complete professional creative tasks like print work, commissions, animations, etc? Kinda bummed because it's beefier in every other aspect vs my 8 year old gaming laptop that's on its last legs.

>>7657422
>I typically work on 4960x7016
Why the fuck would you work on a canvas that large?

>>7657422
If you want to work on such a large canvas with a large volume of layers you are supposed to use a display tablet connect to your pc, perhaps even get a display with 4k res, high levels of refresh rates and calibrated.
An Ipad is not appropriate for that level of workload, I'm surprised it would even take 5 layers let alone 10.

>>7657435
Iirc you can do up to 10kx10k on an ipad in procreate with 8 layers?
I don't know why you would, but you can

>>7657426
When I was just starting out some self-proclaimed concept artist that used to be on here said to triple your canvas size as close to 10k and I listened. I only realized today that this was retarded

>>7657435
Understandable, might consider returning if it turns out I can't find much other use for it and just get a new pc. The portability was really tempting

>>7657422
If you want lots of layers on a large canvas, then first you need a PC/Mac powerful enough for it. Then you either get a display tablet, or, if you feel like it, a professional monitor for creatives (so it has proper colors like a display tablet would) and use a pen tablet. (medium sized if 27 inch monitor, large if 32 inch)

>>7657442
I only ever used my Ipad pro 2 for small sketches (i am very very bad at coloring and rendering) so I wouldn't know. That's kinda wild though.

>>7657470
I do actually own a 24in display tablet, while it's really nice to draw on CSP runs horribly and it doesn't seem like running it on a higher-end pc fixes this issue either, but it's definitely exacerbated by my potato specs. Some people say it's much better optimized on the iPad so I guess I'll try to see if that's true. I'll keep this in mind when I have enough to upgrade though

>>7657570
That's because CSP is not optimized at all. Past the point of good enough, a stronger PC doesn't improve CSP's performance much. Try some other drawing software, compare them on a potato and a new PC, you'll see a way bigger jump in performance than you would in CSP.

>>7657591
>CSP is not optimized at all
Correction: CSP is optimized, but only for a single mid-high performance core. It does not multithread, it will probably never multithread.

So it doesn't matter if you have 16 cores, if they need to work together to be good, youre gonna have a shit time since CSP will only ever use one and run everything on it.

It is the most retarded programming decision I think I've seen in a software.

>>7657426

I'm usually painting around 5000x6000 at 300 dpi because A) I'm intending to upload the work as a print to my shop and thems the upper limits of how big you can upload to inPrnt or B) I'm doing a commission for a client

that said I'm generally curious with how big you can handily work at said resolutions with these android or iOS based tablets because I'd like a little more flexibility in being able to do work but I'm not keen on dropping money on something that potentially handles art worse than my current desktop setup.


(my work, for example)

>>7657759
If you’re smart about working WITH the limitations it’s not impossible desu. Pros tend to use these standalone tablets as an extension of their studio ie delegating sketching or rough painting on the tablet then finishing the rest on their main equipment. The color accuracy on the Apple devices is also perfect out of the box compared to any other screens in the market, hence why some don’t even bother with the hassle of switching anymore

>huge amount of ACTUAL discussion because it's a clash of tablets x drawing software and general software related themes
>it's going to get bot spammed soon in order to force people to move to yet another template botmade tablet thread
I'm telling you guys,
>/atg/ - Art Technology General
would go incredibly hard, I'd do it myself but I cannot compose information or a general writeup to save my ESL-life.

>>7657759
>>7657834
If you just intend to do your art on your desktop anyways then I don't really see the need for a portable tablet. I have just the one big tablet on my office, always connected, and just draw everything on it. I never wanted an iPad or anything else like it because those seemed like a lot of money for a feature that I'd never use anyways (drawing outside of my office) and a smaller screen. The only thing that really drew me in was Procreate- people made it seem like some incredibly awesome and convenient program for drawing- but it did not draw me in enough for me to want to buy a whole iPad.

>>7657856
this is a board for artwork, not shilling your electronic gear faggot. Piss off to /g/

>>7657914
>this is a board for artwork, not shilling your electronic gear faggot.
the OP of this thread doesn't draw and only shills electronic gear though

>>7657918
This thread shouldn't even exist. Again fuck off to /g/, nobody else here likes you shills.

>>7657920
So drawing tablets and the discussion of them is bad, what do you think about >>7557034 for example, is this also a bad thread?

>>7657856
and I'm telling you that's already been tried. op asks retarded questions and bumps his thread with fake answers literally every time the non schizo thread gets a post so his always remains ahead of it in the catalog so people will click on it first.
Unless you're willing to dedicate your life to this shit to attempt to out autism op, it's not worth it. you will not stand in the way of his 4 cents a day.

>>7657911
>If you just intend to do your art on your desktop anyways then I don't really see the need for a portable tablet.
I can sketch from my couch and bed easily and get work done without having to sit at my computer

>>7657911
People want them purely for the convenience, not because it’s “better,”even for the those who dedicate long hours into creative work daily. I agree it’s objectively more efficient to use a decked out PC to do everything, but essentially chaining yourself to your setup at all times to get anything art-related done is also a good way to burn out for most.

Obv not everyone minds being desk-bound, but generally people want to enjoy art anytime, on the couch, on your mother’s bed etc. portable tablets fulfill this. Any serious artist that have both get more work done and burn out less.

>>7657972
I don't think I have the image on my computer anymore of when op literally spent 3 hours from 2-5am making pointless threads and bumping every single thread with shitposts so the /dtg/ where he didn't make the op dropped off into the archive so he could make remake it with his post header.
He's genuinely the most unhinged freak I've ever seen on 4chan. Dudes cutting their dicks off in the early days of /b/ were less crazy.

>>7657984

>>7657856
>huge amount of ACTUAL discussion because it's a clash of tablets x drawing software and general software related themes
>it's going to get bot spammed soon in order to force people to move to yet another template botmade tablet thread
>>7657972
>and I'm telling you that's already been tried. op asks retarded questions and bumps his thread with fake answers literally every time the non schizo thread gets a post so his always remains ahead of it in the catalog so people will click on it first.
/Trash/ anti-schizo squad ops here, you folks are overthinking things
Just put the non-schizo OP template on his threads, give him the most amount of work if he wants to redirect discussion. Eventually he's going to give out if he can't do anything but kill the threads he makes or stop spamming

>>7657856
>huge amount of ACTUAL discussion because it's a clash of tablets x drawing software and general software related themes
>it's going to get bot spammed soon in order to force people to move to yet another template botmade tablet thread
>>7657972
>and I'm telling you that's already been tried. op asks retarded questions and bumps his thread with fake answers literally every time the non schizo thread gets a post so his always remains ahead of it in the catalog so people will click on it first.
/Trash/ anti-schizo criminology expert here, you folks are overthinking things
Just put the non-schizo OP template on his threads, give him the most amount of work if he wants to redirect discussion. Eventually he's going to give out if he can't do anything but kill the threads he makes or stop spamming

>>7658036
>Eventually he's going to give out
he's been doing this for more than 6 years now. The first I heard of the dtg schizo was 2019. It's very likely it's been longer.
if this
>>7657989
isn't proof enough to you that he is an unhinged freak, nothing will convince you.

>>7658036
Two problems with that:
His only goal is to get the OP post and the first few posts (all botted so good luck out-racing them), so whatever template you're going to post is a too far of a scroll away so all the pastel-eating anons who rush in to ask "wut tablet i shud buy" don't see it.
And the last person who did what you're suggesting got banned if I recall correctly.

There's no victory to be had here outside of someone going fucking nuts and deciding to out schizo the guy by archive bombarding his threads like he himself does, except from post 1 instead of 290~ posts.

>>7658131
>And the last person who did what you're suggesting got banned if I recall correctly.
I was the person that attempted to fight the schizo 1-2 years ago. I gave up because I realized it wasn't at all worth it. I even still have the decent op template on my computer somewhere.
I never got banned, though I know op has multiple times. I just stopped caring.

>>7658148
also to add on to this, once I out timed the bot posts and he literally cussed me out and deleted his thread to start a new one. The only thing I got out of it was laughing at making the freak angry.

>>7658148
>I was the person that attempted to fight the schizo 1-2 years ago. I gave up because I realized it wasn't at all worth it. I even still have the decent op template on my computer somewhere.
>I never got banned, though I know op has multiple times. I just stopped caring.
Can you post it once, mostly because I'm looking for the previous (real) recommends and for posting it on every thread he makes from now on

Some stuff is probably outdated, but sure. Some guy also made this https://rentry.org/dtg which you could put somewhere.

>>7658184
This is a thread to discuss all kinds of digital drawing hardware

>Tablet news:
(idk put some shit about the new MDP, movinktab, I have no idea what else because I don't keep up with this shit anymore)

Recommended tablets:
>Pen tablets (non display)
Wacom Intuos pro
Huion Inspiroy
Xencelab Pen Tablet
XP Pen Deco 01 v2 / Pro

>Display tablets
Wacom Cintiq pro
Huion Kamvas plus/pro
XP-Pen Artist series
Xencelab Pen display

>Mobile tablets
Xppen magic drawing pad (best drawing experience)
Apple iPad Pro (3rd gen for new pen/reduced bezel, 6th gen for hover)
Samsung Galaxy Tab
Surface Pro 8/9
Kamvas studio 16

>What tablets does /dtg/ use?
https://strawpoll.com/polls/NoZrLOmrDn3

>General guidelines when picking a tablet:
- All of the recommended models are part of large lines with multiple sizes/generations available. Buy the biggest/newest in your budget. Medium-Large pen tablets or 16-24" display tablets are considered the sweet spot by most artists.

>Recommended Software:
Clip Studio Paint
Photoshop
Procreate
Infinite Painter
Rebelle
Krita or hipaint if you're poor

>Display Calibration tools:
https://www.eizo.be/monitor-test/
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/icc_profiles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avJTz1JhkR4 [Embed]
(Use this guide to roughly calibrate your display if you don't want to invest hundreds into a colorimeter you'll only use a few times)

Previous thread:

I wish you best of luck in making the retard seethe.

>>7658036
Then you do it. I have a life. I can't dedicat all my time to countering a fag schizo on a basketweaving forum.

>>7657759
Yeah right. I'll believe you're David when you post something to prove it. Make a post on your twitter, friend. I'll wait.

Why don't you just post your own work, anon?

>>7659290
Nta but I would never post on socials that I posted here. I intentionally make anything I post here harder to link back to me.

>>7657856
I'm unsure why this general even exists, let alone existed for the past 5+ years, I would've imagined people would just simply come here to ask about their choices, do so and then just leave. A lot of it can easily be looked up online and decided. It's also not like you get a new tablet every month or people want to talk about driver patch notes. But whatever I'm just here to see how the new wacom releases go before committing.

>>7659310
Uhuh. You're not him, anon. Stop larping.

>>7659368
>>7659310
>NTA
Whoops. Anyways, don't cover for the retard.

I'm asking him to post anything, anything at all, to his twitter right now. Not something saying he's on 4chan, just anything.

And he won't be able to do it because he isn't the artist. If he keeps larping and I ask him why he can't do it, do you think he'll give the correct answer?

>>7659375
It doesn't matter if he's the real guy or not, this is unrelated to this threads topic. Stop prying into peoples personal matters.

>>7659382
>it doesn't matter if he's the real guy or not
You're defending anon an awful lot for someone who isn't him. This matters an awful lot to you for something that "doesn't matter"

Why is that, anon?

>Stop prying into peoples personal matters
Buddy he made this the threads problem when he came in here saying "this is my work" when it absolutely is not. I'm not just picking some random person and fucking with them.

I'm harrassing a larper who you seem extremely sympathetic and attached to.

>>7659385
I wasn't any of the anons conversing, I'm just saying it's irrelevant and doesn't matter if it's him or not, were talking about the tools not the artists.

>>7659391
Yeah but when we're talking about programs and equipment and showing work as an example (>>7657759) when it is not our work, that's scummy and disingenuos.

>I wasn't any of the anons conversing
Then learn to stop sticking your nose in other people's shit, karen.

>>7659402
It's because you're making a fuss out of it, though it's probably my bad to expect people to behave in a public forum. Here is your last (you).

>>7659290

I did post my own work, anon who's familiar enough with me to not message me directly inquiring about it

maybe a screen shot of the workfile itself open in CSP will suffice, yes?

>290 posts
>no botspam yet
i'm scared.. our cultural heritage..

>>7647224
It arrived and my issue is gone, it was the power cable indeed.

Lmao you pathetic Wacom shills never fail to make me laugh with your “Drawing Tablet General” threads. Face it, most screenless drawing tablet artists will be infinitely more successful than any of you sad virgins will ever be. XP-Pen and Huion stay winning. You are on the wrong side of history, get over it losers.

>>7659485
Brother has been bot spamming this whole time. He copy-pastas questions and answers from archived /dtg/ and /sqt/ threads if it isn't active enough for him or something he dislikes is happening.

Around december-january when it slows to a crawl because everyone is spending time with family, OP sits alone, talking to himself.

>>7659502
Poor effort post.

>>7659485
it's joever. op died

oopsie
>>7659540
I made
>>7659540
fresh bread
>>7659540

>>7659543
I don't think you understand how much damage this single thread will cause /ic/.

>>7659562
with any luck, /dtg/ will be banned from being posted here entirely and go to /g

>>7659540
new thread is properly set up now
>>7659540
feel free to migrate
>>7659540

>>7659502
But XP-Pen and Huion make display tablets

>lurker
>browsing this thread for tablet recommendations
>gaslit in all directions
I'm not even sure who or what to believe. Certainly don't trust YouTubers. The alternative is asking
>ledditors
I guess I'll just get an android tablet with a decent stylus or something, goddamn. Didn't really plan on getting anything too fancy anyways, just some shit that works.

>>7659715
I search on Reddit, Twitter, and the 4chan archive for personal reviews. I also use these sites:

https://docs.thesevenpens.com/drawtab
https://www.parkablogs.com/
https://rentry.org/dtg

>>7659715
If someone isn't willing to post their work and/or their stuff sucks shit, ignore them.
Basically anything you get today will work adequately, the differences are minor and easily worked around
I'll still perpetually be an unpaid shill for the magic drawing pad though.

>>7641218
>>7641167
>>7647316
There's a new MDP? I literally cannot find any mention of that online. Is the CPU bump noticeable?

Hey frens. Finally gonna buy a drawing tablet after using a mouse for years. I really want to go with a Wacom but I'm usnure about which on is better. With my budget I can get the 472 or the 4100. Which one is best?