Remember folks - /ic/ (#7644206) [Archived: 263 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:04:18 AM No.7644206
whosreallycallingyou
whosreallycallingyou
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Majority of your detractors aren't as good as you think they are. I used to come here back in the 00's and early 10's people constantly shit on me here and other sites, and it turned out that none of them were any better sometimes they were way worse than I was. Pic related, the right side are actually my biggest detractors in the art community.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:10:03 AM No.7644211
>>7644206 (OP)
that is some shit fucking taste
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:14:28 AM No.7644215
>>7644211
pyw
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:17:36 AM No.7644217
1752364644021314
1752364644021314
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>>7644206 (OP)
Guys what level of skill is this artwork?
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:18:03 AM No.7644218
>>7644206 (OP)
That maybe true but what is also true is that you arent really better than them by much either, otherwise you wouldnt be here. Just becuase one turd smells less doesnt mean make it any less of a turd.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:30:19 AM No.7644227
>>7644206 (OP)
Me on the right
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:17:25 AM No.7644258
>>7644217
seems alright line art is fine, not my sort of thing. The perspective on that arm is fucky though.

>>7644218
I haven't posted here in over 10 years, I just thought someone needed some words of encouragement. There are some arrogant dipshits on the web.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 11:03:17 AM No.7644283
>>7644206 (OP)
And they're usually underaged and posts daily rants in their own discord circlejerk.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 11:13:46 AM No.7644290
>>7644206 (OP)
bottom right example's actually good
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 11:15:56 AM No.7644293
cat art critic
cat art critic
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>>7644206 (OP)
>Majority of your detractors
they aren't even artists. they're art critics
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 11:17:56 AM No.7644294
>>7644290
Endshark is shit.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 11:30:49 AM No.7644300
>>7644293
Might be a little shocking for you, but as it just so coincidentally happens, you don't need to better than the artist to look at it and form valid opinions on it.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 12:56:13 PM No.7644374
>>7644206 (OP)
wtf is that image meant to convey
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 1:00:17 PM No.7644375
>>7644206 (OP)
both sides draw
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 1:38:29 PM No.7644395
>>7644217
pro. but early in his career, so int by rate standards.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:19:02 PM No.7644727
>>7644374
I think OP thinks that art is like a video game where you can grind and increase your level linearly, so good artists grinded a lot and bad artists did not grind fundies.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:52:29 PM No.7644758
>>7644727
OP is fucking retarded because he thinks his image is something profound.
This would only be if he assumed that "artist" meant only the left side of his image and higher. When the truth is that "artist" means everyone from as high as KJG and Michelangelo to as low as those that make Chris Chan look like an art god by comparison.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:58:41 PM No.7644763
>>7644758
nah, beglets aren't artists any more than strumming a guitar makes you a musician, sorry
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 8:00:02 PM No.7644765
>>7644758
True, normies think art is about skill when its really about expression. Half the shit on the right side has more soul than the art on the left, but its not an easy thing to recognize.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 8:01:18 PM No.7644766
>>7644763
Nope. Retards who have 4000 uploads in their deviantart of extremely bad MSpaint or crayola pencil drawings over 7 years have done more drawing than 75% of /ic/

Next you'll try to say that fanfic writers aren't writers, despite the longest pieces of literature in human history being autistic selfinsert fanfics.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 8:28:55 PM No.7644787
>>7644766
>hurr durr if you fry a million burned eggs you're a chef!
cope, retard
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 8:33:19 PM No.7644790
>>7644766
Maybe 5% of /ic/ are actual artists, and that's generous.
>fanfic writers aren't writers
Correct, just like all the girls reenacting other clips or movie scenes on tiktok aren't actors.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 8:56:29 PM No.7644805
>>7644787
>>7644790
"artist" is not an awarded title of recognition, it's a description of the fact you spend a lot of time making art. There is 0 prestige in "being an artist", and it isn't exclusively a job title like "chef" or "nurse" is. You need to add more to the sentence to properly define what you mean.

>"professional artist"
Describes only the fact people pay you
>"amateur artist"
(self-used) Describes you believe yourself to be a beginner (rarely used by someone other than the artist). May or may not have greater aims.
>"outsider artist"
(other-used) Describes someone whose art falls well outside the zeitgeist of the particular writer/speaker/audience and whose aesthetics aren't attributable to some known outgroup
>"hobbyist artist"
Someone who makes art for leisure, almost always in their home without a decated studio space. Has no aims to make it their profession.
>"gallery artist"
Someone whose work is exhibited (and sold) in one or more galleries. Implies a form of institutional approval. Subtype of professional.
>"concept artist"
Someone who creates concept art - internal drafts used as reference material (not the final piece) for a piece of media such as a movie, game, brand refresh or advertisement - professionally as an employed position, inhouse or freelancer.

And so on and so on, you get the picture. The context of a conversation will sometimes carry the weight of the additional refinement - IE if at a meet and greet and someone shares their profession, then another asks what you do, saying just that you're "an artist" would only be an appropriate response if you do it for money as your primary job.
But that is not the context of most conversations. Conversations go a lot easier when the default is that there isn't any assumption that "artist" only means "professional artist."
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 6:05:20 AM No.7645407
>>7644805
artist literally means skilled person, esl
no amount of cope will make someone doodling in their workbook an artist
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 6:07:01 AM No.7645409
>>7644217
Holy fucking SOVL
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 6:17:26 AM No.7645419
soichart
soichart
md5: af90fd5c332748188b6ff2deeeef108e๐Ÿ”
>>7644375
one side sucks and jeers, the other has perfected their craft
>>7644727
nah, you are being a white girl. I just altered another image, because the same thing applied to this board.

>>7644765
shut it zoomer, people who think that still live in nowheresville post college.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 6:20:51 AM No.7645422
>>7645419
>why yes, I lust for cock, how could you tell?
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 6:43:19 AM No.7645433
nigga made this instead of drawing geg
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 6:49:31 AM No.7645435
everyone on this board is so insufferable and annoying you'd be either a fool or part of the discord circlejerks of annoying trannies who have killed this board if you post your works here

I just come here periodically to check the general and see who i should avoid outside of this cancer infested shithole
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 7:04:07 AM No.7645443
>>7645435
It was pretty bad 15 years ago too, people were always saying I was shit; yet they weren't any better than me.
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 3:13:44 AM No.7647218
>>7644727
Art is seeking new influences, researching new techniques and applying them to your art instead of being an arrogant prick and thinking you are better than everyone.
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 4:00:41 AM No.7647282
>>7645407
>artist literally means skilled person, esl
>types like shit and calls someone else ESL
Maybe in your neanderthal yuropoor language, the word that you use for "artist" only means "professional artist" or has some implication of skill, but in English, especially current-year English, it's a very broad term and is moreso just a way to describe a person who regularly makes art.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 4:08:07 AM No.7647294
>>7647282
no, retard, it literally means skilled person in english, hence the A in BA and calling skilled people of any vocation artists
you will never be a firstworlder
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 4:14:29 AM No.7647303
>>7647294
both of you are acting like white women and going off topic.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 4:18:23 AM No.7647313
>>7647303
what a brown thing to say
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 4:25:08 AM No.7647322
>>7645435
people used to actually draw so it wasn't as bad because at least they fucking drew, now retards talk out of their ass and don't draw, just go out of their way to be annoying retards, i don't even know why they're even here because it's definitely not to learn or get better
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 4:45:28 AM No.7647335
>>7644206 (OP)
It doesn't matter who says it. All that matters is if it's true or not. Anything else is coping.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 5:10:38 AM No.7647366
>>7645435
This. I'm always surprised when people are taking advice from people who do not know you might as well ask your family/friends for a critique god knows it will be more helpful. Most people here are complete beginners who are unfocused with vague goals and no plan who parrot what their favorite youtube artist/ book says. why not ask someone who's actually doing what you want to do? Why not get a part time job or use the money you use for junkfood/ other vices and join an artist community you actually respect and ask for critique there? I gave that advice a while back and then someone asked "Which discord should I go to?" How would I know what your art goals are and who inspires you? At least discords usually have a sketchbook section which allows you to see the work of the people who are giving you advice. I come here because sadly even though this board is very slow, this is the fastest moving art board and I want a break from doing art but still want to talk art related stuff.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 5:50:47 AM No.7647427
>>7647366
>>7647322
The great majority of creatures here are miserable underage normies and 3rd world shitskins looking for the magic cheat code for nsfw patreonbux and other types of sexually ill homosexuals parading their shitty taste all over the place.
They don't want to draw, they don't want criticism, they just want to either insult and humiliate someone else as to feel superior than someone to cope with their abominable existence or shill their scribble in order to shill their social media in the delusions they will be rich and famous like the ecelebs they want to be friends with and exploit and manipulate in oder to get famous themselves.
In the best case scenario, the retards here want a straight up professional to draw their shit for them or keep circlejerking on discord because maybe their misery will end if everyone else worships them.
And god forbid you talk about anything that it's not about them, because if they do not know anything, you're the dumb one and they will literally waste their time trying to "farm lolcows" because when they post the screenshots on the discords maybe people will like them and maybe it will jumpstart their internet career of epic content creators.

This is why this board and the internet at large is fucking shit now.
Too many kids who were never bullied or beaten acting like their actions don't have consequences because no one jumps out their greasy smartphone screen and pushes their shit in, let alone their non existent Fathers.
The big irony in this is that by doing all this shit they do, they're ruining their own chances of ever getting anything.

And do you really want to ever risk working together or being affiliated with these brain rotten entities? They will only drag you down.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 6:01:48 AM No.7647443
>>7647366
>I'm always surprised when people are taking advice from people who do not know you
Why is that a bad thing?
>might as well ask your family/friends for a critique god knows it will be more helpful.
When I ask my friends and family for critique they just say "wow thats so good youre so creative I wish I could draw" every single time. No matter how shit it is. So, no. Not useful. At all.

>Most people here are complete beginners who are unfocused with vague goals and no plan
Ok, no issue. If they give a good critique I don't care. In film, for example, it's not just film critics that are important. You need to hear what the audience thinks, even better if you can get some movie talkers and listen in on them. Is the average person smart, do they know anything about filming? No. But you can gather how well they follow the story, what parts confuse them or trip them up, what parts they enjoyed, and what you thought was cool was actually cringe.

Plus, critics and experts aren't the majority of your audience. Dumb normies are. You should at least take their input fot what it is and make use of any critique you get anyways.

>parrots
Yeah parrots are fucking useless. They don't usually even parrot anything useful.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 6:58:23 PM No.7648087
>>7647443
>Why is that a bad thing?
It's not like a forum like polycount in which you can see the other person's work, for all you know it could be a 16 year old zoomer who only recently started digital painting who is giving you the advice .


>Ok, no issue. If they give a good critique I
YES it's an issue. They don't know what the fuck they are doing and can send you down the wrong path. It happened to me when I went to a shithole website called entervoid for a few years.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 7:09:50 PM No.7648101
>>7644294
noticing how particular shitposters are now just slowly trying to toss in niche artists into their things to try and make people hate artists that are nice and cool and don't hurt anybody by trying to act like they have done something wrong. (hint: they don't even know 4chan exists)

:gas:
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 7:25:35 PM No.7648118
>>7644790
so its arbitrarily not art because of your personal opinion? what authority do you have? NIGGER
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 7:43:58 PM No.7648139
>>7648101
Endshark talked shit on me in a community for really crap artists.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 7:44:36 PM No.7648142
>to be correct you need authority
>fanfic autists are writers because muh long text
that other anon is correct
this board is really just 16 year old who don't know shit and insist upon being correct based on how offended they are despite knowing nothing about any single thing
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 7:47:45 PM No.7648144
>>7648118
ywnbaw
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 8:15:53 PM No.7648163
>>7648139
Press X to Doubt
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 8:16:54 PM No.7648165
>>7644206 (OP)
Just to play devil's advocate, you don't need to be a good artist to be able to give critique or to merely have an opinion.
But this is a problem if someone is assuming a level of seniority over you. Constructive critique is basically impossible unless you know what you're talking about. Imagine getting a tutor in a subject who knows less about it than you do.
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 8:35:11 PM No.7648186
endshit
endshit
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>>7648163
here's from the discord
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 9:26:33 PM No.7648229
>>7647294
>the A in BA
Doesn't mean shit, it's a narrow use of the term. The language has changed over the past 150 years as artists who make art have continually blown holes in attempts to crystalize a definition of it to a narrow defined thing.

You have to actively be more specific than just "artist" if you ever hope to be able to amicably communicate with people outside of a tiny slice of society who thinks exactly like you do. If that's what you want then you're free to do so, but you can't say it's not expected that this conflict occurs.

This is the equivalent of you saying that "blue" should only refer to cerulean and are getting upset when other people are talking about "blue" stuff that's ultramarine, prussian, cobalt, anthraquinone, and cyan.

>>7647427
>Too many kids who were never bullied or beaten acting like their actions don't have consequences because no one jumps out their greasy smartphone screen and pushes their shit in, let alone their non existent Fathers.
Acting like all conversation is just part of a chain of escalation towards violence is retarded. You are a normie.
A lot of your observations are correct but you're just like them at the end of it, because you just use this as a way to vent your frustration at not being able to fight people to get them to obey you, because they surely won't based on your poor charisma.

>>7647443
>If they give a good critique I don't care
100%.
The issue is that most beginners don't know what "good critique" is. Actually, most artists don't either. Critique became a political tool with the spread of social constructionism as a default mode of thinking, and it made everyone fucking on edge because even 1 social construcitonist in a group will draw battle lines and start fighting anyone who challenges his worldview while boosting people who validate it.

>>7648087
>It happened to me
Be intellectually humble enough to dump whatever the fuck you are doing the moment you have some solid evidence against it.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 9:29:45 PM No.7648232
>>7648142
nta he's pointing out that the "authority" implicit in the post he replied to is fake and doesn't not exist

credentialism is collapsing. money and institutional approval means fuck all nowadays, in fact you lose status for having pride in having gotten a degree
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 9:33:53 PM No.7648240
>>7644206 (OP)
>bottom right drawing on the โ€œbadโ€ side
Well damn I think I recognize that artist. If Iโ€™m right thatโ€™s not actually bad art when you see it up close imo, heโ€™s just chasing a very specific retro style.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 9:35:41 PM No.7648243
>>7644217
High Int to Low Pro but Soul... Soul is at lvl99.
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 9:36:50 PM No.7648249
>>7648229
LOL ur so mad rn
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 9:43:07 PM No.7648263
>>7648186
god damn bro 2016 that's a nearly decade long beef you got over a nothing statement that's probably right.

>>7648240
Endshark good. they've been doing stuff a long time and have great sense of volume and perspective. They also make games and music. OP just mad about nothing
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 5:31:59 AM No.7648848
>>7648240
nah his line art is shit, and he an arrogant shitbag.

>>7648263
he sides with entervoid.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 6:57:09 PM No.7649541
>>7648848
says the loser holding a decade long beef because you're a schizo lmao like go get a fuckin' hobby bro
There was never anything wrong with Entervoid it's just a fun thing for artists to do just like Art Fight every year.
Like you got a beef with people having fun with each other clearly.

Anyway
:gas:
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:09:35 PM No.7649698
>>7649541
Entervoid is a joke that forces folks to draw comics on the daily and jeer at anyone who doesn't conform their standards. Their mods all shitheads who have stagnated since 2008. This isn't fun, they are psychos.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:12:05 PM No.7649701
>>7649698
you sound like the sort of square that jeers at the idea of doing speed pose practice or the idea of doing layouts and composition studies.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:19:37 PM No.7649715
>>7649701
nah, their advice was poisonous and everyone laughed at their shitty comics in school.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:45:53 PM No.7649841
>>7649715
:gas:
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 7:54:40 PM No.7651103
>>7647335
You are in a diaper.