>All of my creative friends gave up after they got a full time job/married and had kids
>Not even doing it "on the side" they have outright said that they don't draw anymore
How do we avoid such a fate?

>>7644927 (OP)
Don't get a job, a wife, or kids. Just keep making art.
fpbp
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>>7644927 (OP)
On the side has always been a cope
If you aren't devoting your life to it, you aren't doing it at all
>But muh bills
A real artist finds a way

>>7644927 (OP)
Another thread you can simply answer by "just draw"
Ho hum

>>7644927 (OP)
Easy. Draw with your kids.
You get practice, they develop a useful habit.
Mine draw all the time now.

>>7644927 (OP)
I'm in the same boat, most friends have given up on being creative in general.

I get they're too busy to draw, but what stop being creative all together? Like isn't there a fundamental need to within them to do SOMETHING?

>>7644927 (OP)
You either need to be very established making art as a full time job before you have kids, or you need to… basically give up on the idea of having a family. You can’t put energy into building both at the same time.

>>7644927 (OP)
You probably don't have to worry about it lmao

>>7645020
>but what stop being creative all together?

When you have people in your life the responsibilities to them often trumps any solitary activity. Also it's much easier to watch netflix than to pick up a pencil and draw, again a full time job takes up about 50 hrs of your week then you have maintenance and social responsibilities and general fatigue at the end of the day. There's other ways to relax.

>>7645110
not to mention nagging wife!

>>7645020
>I get they're too busy to draw, but what stop being creative all together?
Usually social obligations or space constraints. If you're spending your free time with your neighbors or family members or friends out of a sense of transactional obligation then you're obviously not having time for anything else.

Also, a lot of people are part of "sandwich generations" meaning they're taking care of their kids AND helping out their aging parents at the same time. That further reduces leisure time.

>Like isn't there a fundamental need to within them to do SOMETHING?
Yes this makes them depressed as shit. Some people do manage to do it and their spouses are supportive. Why do you think Michaels's main customer base is married women? Some manage to scratch the creativity itch by buying a milling machine or 3d printer, or doing model trains or other similar shit that you can "work on" while not at it (reading, designing, etc.) and which they can also involve their kids in.

>>7644927 (OP)
not have all your friends be outliers

>>7644927 (OP)
Marry an artist. My partner gets onto me when I don't draw for more than 1 day.

>>7644927 (OP)
I cant even fathom never drawing again. thats like giving up your favorite food.

I will tell you this: the second you start working or going to school full time is the second you've decided to choose money or career over art and the second your art goals and your highest technical potential are-while not necessarily lost-are compromised and far less likely to manifest were you to wisely limit your responsibilities external from that

>>7645329
I made this mistake myself and I will forever regret it. I still draw regularly and I'm proud of what I'm capable of even if it's not particularly impressive but I will never know what I could have been if I'd allowed myself to lock in

>>7644928
This

>>7645329
Only applies if your weakminded
Chads and MCs have no such weakness, they grow when faced with adversities.

>>7644927 (OP)
I told my art friends I stopped but secretly didn't and am drawing more than them. one day I will just casually share some drawings like ' felt like getting back into it... I'm so rusty..."

>>7645300
>marry an artist
make sure they have ambition first, that's more important than the craft itself.

>>7645534
Jewish behavior.

>>7645534
based behavior

>>7644927 (OP)
they were never true artists, just normies that had natural talent.

real artists give up aspects of their life to create art. That's what art IS,a piece of someones soul.

>>7645525
Those boomer fairy tales don't apply to today's times. You read these stories where people worked at a fast food restaurant to save up for a year for something outrageously expensive. People took huge risks because if things didn't work out you could still flip burgers and buy a house and support a family of 5. Sure those people had grit and talent, but times have changed.

>>7646988
You can still do that, it just means you can't participate in all the expectations of current society. Too many people nowadays live beyond their means in order to "keep up" and this fucks themselves because they are effectively subsistence living without surplus, feeding their egos more than their own mouths.

>>7644931
based

I'm going to die broke and alone but at least I'll be able to paint things or whatever

>>7648297
gmi

>>7644927 (OP)
Just don't get married

>>7644927 (OP)
Fulltime job robs your time and energy. No time and energy means no creativity. No creativity means nothing to produce.
Marriage defeat man will in life because family and reproduction are inherently the ultimate purpose of man and his scrotum. From other perspective, sex/masturbation/ejaculation literally makes you dumb because it 'rewards' you for doing nothing. Men feels 'complete' once they have sex, they have no desire to produce something because their biology said they have produce something by ejaculation so brain said its time to rest until they regain such energy to produce something again
>How do we avoid such a fate?
Stay celibate if you have the balls, only get marry/have kids if you have made it as an artist but beware that you'll lost your edge as an artist like the one who came before (You). As for work I cant say anything about it. I was in an ugly situation where my sense of creativity depleted because of how hectic my work is, but at the same time I need to get money and food as a human being, so the only solution for this one is either get a full time remote work or just simply set your drawing desire aside, maybe draw on weekend, but never stop drawing at all.

>>7645534
that's not a genuine friendship, then. that's a means through which to get vain self-gratification.

>>7645547
Jewish people like to draw so no one believes they would stop