What is your preferred timing for gesture drawing or general sketching? I've been doing 30s-7min (incrementing 30s i.e. 30s then 1 min then 1m 30s, etc)

>>7645659 (OP)
usually takes me a few hours

>>7645659 (OP)
I usually hit a point at the 5 min mark that makes me feel like the timer is too long and makes me want to shoot myself

If I'm at an actual figure drawing session with a model, I don't like 30 second poses, I think they're a waste of time. A couple of 1 mins and 2s to warm up, then some 5 minute poses, and then the real meat and potatoes comes during the 10 and 30 minute poses

30 seconds is retarded

>>7645659 (OP)
I don't usually sketch any more unless I'm figuring out a concept for some part of a project I'm making. like if I need to design a costume, or some asset. or character

>>7646005
It's good for training proportion you retard.

>>7646043
no it isn't retard, you train proportions not by extreme time constraints but by actually drawing them out over and over until you can do it by eye
dumb prebeg

>>7645659 (OP)
Only like a page or two as a warmup. In my case, all of the "do x daily practice" like gestures or visual studies was a massive waste of time.

>>7646051
pyw

>>7645659 (OP)
I do 15x1 min, 5x3min, 3x5min, 1x15min so it totals 1 hour. I did not do any research at all and just randomly decided these timings

>>7645659 (OP)
>>7645659 (OP)
about 10 - 30 seconds, anymore is going to form bad habbits

>>7645659 (OP)
after about a 100 or so, you end level up and find yourself with a new skill and you can continue from there, like a checkpoint in a video game unironically, just be sure you keep grinding, speed is what you want, everything else will just come as a passive ability once you level up

>>7645775
>>7646005
>>7646051
>>7646091
>gesture is a waste of time
PYW

>>7646051
>actually drawing them out over and over
...and do you draw them out over and over more by spending 30 seconds on each one or by spending 5 minutes on each one?

>>7647263
if you're learning proportions, why the fuck would you limit yourself to 30 seconds? are you just stupid?

>>7647263
Practice doesn't make perfect.
Perfect practice makes perfect.
No one improves from 30 second scribbles, slowing down and taking the time to draw things properly yields way better results.

>>7647271
because according to you you learn proportions faster by doing more of them in the same timespan?

>>7647272
30 seconds is slow for proportions, you're unironically retarded if that's not enough time
>inb4 moving goalposts to anatomy

>>7647274
get some reading comprehension, i never said any of that

>>7647280
>you train proportions [...] by actually drawing them out over and over until you can do it
refer to >>7647263 until your IQ grows three times

i only do 60 second or less gestures if im sketching people at the park or as a warmup in figure drawing class.

Feels incredibly pointless otherwise.

>>7647283
you added the time aspect to it, once again, get some reading comprehension, i know it's hard for you because your people can't even afford toilets but do make an effort
>>7646051
YOU LEARN PROPORTIONS BY DRAWING THEM UNTIL YOU CAN EYEBALL THEM
i know i said some harsh words so you're probably tilted and will double down like a braindead spic, maybe be less of a fucking retard next time

>>7647292
you're unironically retarded, pyw

>>7647295
>y-y-you're retarded!!!
stupid beaner

>>7647296
you don't need to sign your posts

>>7646043
very quick gestures are actually to practice shit like making beautiful lines and rhythm or getting down movement as quickly as possible like if you want to draw sports.

proportions should be relatively easy for you after 6 months beg studies.

>>7647296
pyw beggie

>>7645775
>I don't like 30 second poses, I think they're a waste of time.
>. A couple of 1 mins and 2s to warm up

The 30 second gestures tend to make the 1-2 mins gestures that much better, your perception of time expands and you're able to get more out of it. To be clear if I'm doing 30 sec gestures I usually focus on getting the pelvis and ribcage right with the line of action, building upon that with more time I often see the benefits. But I would only do that for 5 min max.

>>7645665
>feel like the timer is too long and makes me want to shoot myself

I know that feel, at least I used to but if the timer is that long you can focus on getting the negative spaces more accurate and using techniques to emphasize plane changes/ form

>>7645659 (OP)
Timed gesture drawing is the dumbest meme shit I've ever seen. I only started developing for real when I stopped doing it. If you do too much it's almost guaranteed to give you a ton of weird habits. That said, it can help you build some intuition, or get you drawing when you're in a slump. I'd say between 30s to 2m is ideal if you must do it. Got nothing against drawing short, loose sketches while *focusing* on gesture though, that's great. It's just the whole timing thing that's fucking retarded.

>>7647751
pyw gesturelet