this is supposed to be my "peak"

>draw every single day since I started
>still can't draw anything other than the damn front-facing faces
>every time I try something else it looks like I drew it with my foot
>read tons of guides and books (MORPHO, Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain)
>can't remember a single thing from any of them
>if you asked me to explain the content I’d just stutter and cry
>every study session feels useless
>practice perspective? forgotten the next day
>practice anatomy? gone the next day too
>brain smooth like a banana peel
>never felt proud of a single drawing I've made
>just staring at my sketchbook like a monkey trying to understand algebra

How can i muscle my brain ? like read more books, try to remember stupid shit like streets names etc... to force my brain to be braining ?
know I've improved technically but it feels like I haven't, every time I draw I think “I could have done better” and that kills me, can’t even enjoy the process anymore. feels like I’m trying to brute force art with my forehead, wonder if I'm just fundamentally broken.

picrel is what i drew today

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>>7647198
this one for exemple is one of my first ever drawing

What’s with these narcissistic threads? I can’t be the only one who noticed we get more of these lately.
>>>/ic/beg

constructoidism claims another one...

talented rat humblebrag thread
piss off

>>7647190 (OP)
>I could have done better
What could you have done better? Why not proceed to do it. It looks like you're working with pencil so it would cost you nothing, even if you weren't you can redraw it. It will take less time because you know where you're going and you can use the critique you gave yourself to simplify the process.

Other than that here's some advice
>think about your shading and shadow shapes.
>When you are shading you're still drawing try to follow the form or use one consistent technique
>If using a reference like in OP squint your eyes to see the massive shadow shapes and try to group them in that way.
>Messy lines tend to confuse and hide mistakes.
Lastly, you will make more shitting drawings than good ones no matter how great you are. There will be days where things will go smooth and you feel like an art god, and days/months where everything you make will feel like shit. Often when you're learning something new this will happen and the fastest way out of it is to stop judging yourself personally for it stare nakedly at the errors and try to fix them.

>>7647190 (OP)
>feels like I’m trying to brute force art with my forehead
This is what everyone who isn't a genius feels in any field of art. Just keep trying. Muscle memory isn't satisfying.

what's the longest effort you've made into a single drawing?

>>7647311
2 hours

>>7647665
it was this one

>>7647667
i hate the hairs, i hate the fact that its just a torso + head, i hate the shadows

>>7647665
>>7647667
>2 hours
that's nothing. long drawings/studies force you to really see what the limits of your abilities are and to think about what it is you're doing and what you need to do to get your work to the desired point. many /beg/ and even /int/ artists lament about the quality of their work, when they simply haven't worked on it long enough to get it to that desired point; if, with the skills/knowledge you have, it's going to take you 5+ hours to get your drawing where you want it, don't be surprised when it's not there in 2 hours or less (I assume most of your work is done in far less than 2 hours).

>>7647190 (OP)
First, These are nice drawings!

>wonder if I'm just fundamentally broken.
I want you to slap yourself any time you hear yourself thinking "WOW, IM PRETTY GOOD AT THIS!" because it's never true, and it raises your expectation of yourself, which naturally sets you up for a steep fall (frustration and burnout). This is general to life also.

IMO, its more conducive to personal improvement to - when feeling positive - balance things out with a critical/negative eye: When you feel satisfied, take a break, then start looking for the bad things. This is how trained artists do it, only the critical eye belonged to another more experienced person. Obviously its not perfect and why if you're

> can’t even enjoy the process anymore.
Find other environments to learn in, set a routine, talk to artists, consume things that increase your visual library and take breaks from practice - This is how you enjoy the process - NOT forever grinding. You have to mix it up..

>>7647873
ty very much anon

>>7647667
Not bad. Maybe you need to do some reverse engineering approach that instead of starting from real picture, you draw something from anime/manga style first and work your way from there; find yourself a manga frame, try to copy and comprehend them, something like that

You ARE better than this preteen, right, anon?
https://youtube.com/shorts/ALj1u6iwZEM?si=PgPzvH2rw6JVFg7i

>>7648681
>https://youtube.com/shorts/ALj1u6iwZEM?si=PgPzvH2rw6JVFg7i
I think i slightly better than the 1 year ellipse, i HOPE i will be better then the 3 year ellipse. he MOGS me en colors tho

>>7648575
Honestly, drawing real people just feels better. There's more depth, more detail, more soul. Anime noses being just a dot in the middle of the face piss me off, I want to blend realism and stylization into something that doesn’t look like a soulless waifu factory.

>>7649173
A dream of mine is to run a twitter account where I post drawings every day maybe mix in some trendy stuff from time to time to catch attention. In that dream, I’ve mastered color theory, depth, harmonization all of it just flows effortlessly. Once that’s done, I pick up 3D, and someday I build the game. Sounds nice

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>>7647190 (OP)
honestly this isn't even that bad, just keep grinding I've seen far worse. Is this compliment bait?

>>7649182
>Is this compliment bait?
yeah

>>7649182
yes. your sole purpose to beat down on these people when they make threads. keeps the natural ecosystem in check

>>7649183
i STARVE for this bag of attention (this is the one time i wanted to do colors)

>>7647195
>>7647198
Are these from imagination or by reference?

>>7647190 (OP)
>>practice perspective? forgotten the next day
>>practice anatomy? gone the next day too
Maybe study instead of practicing? Take a drawing/picture and try to recreate its constructions; breaking it down to every fondamentals. Practice only sticks when you understand what you are doing. Then, it's just a matter of muscle memory and being comfortable which takes longer, especially if you want a more realistic style.

>>7649239
all references :
https://fr.pinterest.com/pin/580190364527429406/
https://fr.pinterest.com/pin/580190364527397890/

>>7649257
I was going to say your stuff has appeal, but now I see you're right. You have the right to be concerned.

>>7649257
You should probably make it more clear these are studies

>>7647195
>>7649257
>https://fr.pinterest.com/pin/580190364527429406/
Son œil gauche est trop prêt du nez, et son œil droit est trop loin : la moitié devrait caché par son nez qui lui n'est pas assez grand. Son bassin n'est pas assez poussé vers l'avant : elle est toute droite.

>>7649272
I don't speak french monsieur

>>7649276
vous etes comme mon renard

>>7649272
Oui y'a plein de truc cracra, merci de me les avoir précisé

>>7649182
Je vais violer cette emmerdeur pour lui apprendre à ne pas cacaposter

>>7649282
je vais y croire quand je le verrai

Omfg all the baguette speech.

>>7649278
C'es très dur de mettre le doigt sur ses erreurs quand on a la tête dans le guidon, alors qu'on voit que quelque chose ne va pas.
En tout cas, bon courage kop1 !

You guys aren't forced to use baguette language to communicate with me

>>7649298
ferme ta gueule

>>7649300
Suce ma bite

>>7649301
d'accord

>>7649298
Je vais te rendre enceinte

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>>7647190 (OP)
listen faggots. if any of you share the same problems as OP, you probably have adhd. it means your brain is extremely anal about prioritising things that it considers useful for your time. i'm not a science man but it could mean that you develop a path of least resistance way of learning things, which in other words is more intuitive. this may appear on the outside as laziness as you avoid doing anything that takes too much effort, but in reality, your brain requires much more reason to do it.

the fix? well if you are in fact lacking in the knowledge side of things, teach your stubborn brain that reading materials do in fact assist you. immediately put things into practice. find weaknesses and show yourself that learning things from others gives you a more optimal way of resolving them. do this piecemeal.

you would also be more impulsive. jerking off, munching junkfood, doing drugs? don't just stop these things. think about other things you could be doing instead. think about how these other more important things are languishing as you continue with short term rewards.

exercise. no it's not just for your physical, it's for your mental just as much.

still tired? check for sleep apnea or CO leaks. do not take antidepressants.

>>7647190 (OP)
OP, I want to fuck the woman, your drawing and (you) in the ass. :3

>>7653778
Solid advice anon, thanks.

>>7649287
qui a dit qu'il étais français ?

>>7656565
c'est moi

>>7647190 (OP)
I'm autistic too, anon. Being autistic doesn't mean you can't improve.

>practice perspective? forgotten the next day
>practice anatomy? gone the next day too
The fundamentals can't be learned within a day. It can take months or even years. If you want to improve, you have to make the effort of practicing anatomy and perspective on a regular basis. It will be uncomfortable at first but after a few months, it will become muscle memory.

You can do this, anon! Good luck. :D

>>7647667
Asa bros....

>>7647190 (OP)
move onto illustrating

>>7647667
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>>7649188
these are really fucking good. Good job, anon

>>7647190 (OP)
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>>7647206
bro these are amazing!!!! this makes me want to keep going if you've gotten this far by yourself. how long have you been drawing? i've been going a month or two.

>>7647190 (OP)
Do you have any original art? From what I gather these are all references. Drawing from imagination most of the time is the final "test", while these sorts of studies are the homework that help you practice and learn the material. You're saying you practice anatomy, perspective etc., but how are you ACTUALLY applying that practice? Drawing from reference gives you a guideline, and lets you fill in those gaps of memory in your studies; however, recalling it from memory is the way that it truly sticks, and to do that you have to draw without reference a lot. Sort like when learning a foreign language, having actual listening to and speaking with other people helps you learn way faster than just doing vocabulary flashcards to yourself.
The cycle for me goes:
>draw from imagination
>stumble upon something i have trouble with (i.e. cloth folds, anatomy, anything.. if it's a BUNCH of things, i just focus on the one i have the least trouble with)
>study it from reference
>draw it from imagination again

You can always add in a bit of reference to your original drawings if you want, but the point is that relying on references will leave you with little gains. For what it's worth though, your studies look pretty good already. For most of these you've broken the figures down into simpler shapes before drawing them instead of copying them like a printer, which is already very useful for drawing straight from the brain

>>7647190 (OP)
Your stuff has its charm. You are bashing yourself too much.
For how many years did you draw?