>inb4 every reply in this thread is non-constructive

>>7647477 (OP)
Do you have any friends, OP?

>>7647477 (OP)
Establish the perspective correctly and take a more constructive approach by drawing cylinders and ellipse and THEN paint atop what you’ve drawn . Right now it looks rough because the perspective isn’t well established

>>7647478
Yeh…y?

>>7647480
This is the sketch layer I used…perhaps a different approach is suitable?

>>7647488
do you have parkinsons disease?

>>7647488
your drawing is too inaccurate, focus more on placing the lines in the right place.

Just like... draw

>wws0y

>>7647488
If you want it to look like that its suitable.
Other methods would be plot the hight and width of the elipse first, connect it to make a rectangle then divide it so you can draw it better with guides, then erase the guides when you've drawn your elipse.
...or as you're drawing in digital just use the circle tool because its made for drawing those.

>>7647477 (OP)
Reflective surfaces like metal reflect the environment around them. You shaded it as if it's a blender item. Use the color picker on the ref and try to recreate that reflection.

best advice us to drop digital, get an a3 sketchpad, and practice line control. don't draw medium to large shapes with your wrist or fingers, use your arm. google line control exercises, do them as a warm up before your actual drawing sessions. For ellipses, it's actually pretty tough, and even seasoned pros fuck up from time to time.

Honestly, just color pick from your photo studies. You'll get used to copying values after awhile.

>>7647538
ignore this guy. the point of a photo study is to learn how to do it with no assists, not end up with a pretty picture to show people.

>>7647542
*color pick after your guess is cool though, surprise yourself by how far out you are etc

>>7647477 (OP)
You should try to look at the top picture and the bottom and ask yourself why they look different when you're doing photostudies like this. If you're not able to spot the difference, it's going to be really hard for you to learn. Some people are like that though, their brains aren't well suited for art study. Not to say that art can't be enjoyable for them, but they are not well equipped to improve substantially.

If you're decently intelligent you should be able intuitively pick up a lot of the answers to fundamental questions you'll need to answer when you're drawing from imagination (how to handle different materials, perspective, etc) through doing photo studies with this simple spot-the-difference-and-correct goal in mind.

If you're struggling to improve, or feel like you aren't learning anything doing photo studies with the simple approach of finding and fixing the discrepencies, you're going to need to focus more on asking yourself a lot of questions while you're working and paying attention to the answers.

Familiarize yourself with the categories and practices of study for art (anatomy, material properties, color, rendering, etc.), you likely don't understand any of these categories or others very well but you will be trying to for the rest of the time you're studying art. Always ask questions that help fill those knowledge gaps and study to find the answers.

You're going to be doing these studies the rest of the time you're doing art, professionals do them as part of the process of making their works.

Look at the image, look at your image, ask yourself what is different, ask yourself why it's different, ask yourself if you understand why it looks that way in an image, ask Jeeves if you have to, look and think.

Do this and the drawing will improve.

>>7647542
That is not the point of a photo study at all.

The point of a photo study is to learn observational skills, full stop. Using tools to ease you in your is perfectly fine. Grids, color picking, sight size, even tracing, whatever you need. Guess and check is useless if you don't have the skillset to identify how far off you actually are.

>>7647569
using grids and colorpicking values is the exact opposite of training your eyes though. it's extremely easy, especially for a beginner, to turn your analytical brain off and just mindlessly sampling the reference picture without thinking about the relationship in color and value, which is why i don't recommend beginners do that.
>Guess and check is useless if you don't have the skillset to identify how far off you actually are.
the answer's right in front of you. do your best.

>>7647477 (OP)
Post in the generals and stop littering the board.
It's common board etiquette.

>>7647535
"Line control" and "line confidence" are the biggest pseud nodraw tells.

>>7647834
Why is that?

>>>/ic/beg/

>>7647611
Generals are troon coded, newfag

>>7647477 (OP)

>>7647836
Those skills only come naturally from experience. Autistically drawing meaningless lines and ellipses will only waste your time.

>>7647477 (OP)
YOU DON'T DESERVE CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM, AS THIS IMAGE SHOWS, YOU ARE CLEARLY BLIND

>>7647878
>Those skills only come naturally from experience.
true
>Autistically drawing meaningless lines and ellipses will only waste your time.
false

>>7647477 (OP)
>>7647488
I'm also still kinda new to these value studies but maybe these videos will help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwRa5qTnr8o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTYGWfiZnMA
>>7647874
Lovely rendering!

>>7647874
would put my mouth on it

>>7647488
don't be afraid to trace, anon

>>7647477 (OP)
>>inb4 every reply in this thread is non-constructive

Translation: "I'm undeservedly proud of my shitscribbles and you'd better feel the same!"

>>7647477 (OP)
Anon just get your lines straight and improve your observational skills. Your drawing looks completely different from your ref. All in all, draw more. But draw with intention, not mindlessly.

>>7647874
>>7647924
These are great. Listen to these guys, OP