Have /ic/ discovered the secret yet?

1. Finish your work
2. Shore up weaknesses you find when finishing your work with studies
2b. This gives your studies an actual intention behind them so you aren't just going through the motions of drawing
3. Repeat, challenging yourself with every new piece - i+1 method

Hiding thread for the inevitable crab theorycrafting nonsense

>>7647961 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ucCF2_3TsE

>>7647961 (OP)

>>7648189
Proofs? I don't want to draw for 10 years and realize I didn't learn anything

>>7647961 (OP)
Draw first, ask questions later

>>7647961 (OP)
The #1 Secret to Drawing the Pros DON'T Want YOU to Know is...
Actually drawing instead of watching videos on Youtube.

>>7648196
You could not draw for 10 years and learn even less

>>7648189
Came here to say this

>>7647961 (OP)
Amphetamines.

>>7648203
Do you want to bet on that?

>>7647961 (OP)
the secret is love

>>7648323
all my this. on every level.

>>7647961 (OP)
yeah, a loooong time ago
it's called just draw

Vodka

>>7648255
Yes. Let's. You're gonna draw for the next 10 years and then we'll see how far you've come.

>>7648189
is there an alternative way to improve without having to do this?

>>7648645
No.

>>7648645

>>7648645

>>7648189
But how can I draw if I dont know how to draw?

>>7648687

>>7648691
but idk what to draw

>>7649310
ask chatgpt

>>7648687
>>7649310
Are you just baiting, or do you also need help tying your shoes?

>>7647961 (OP)
Yes, you don't need to draw at all. Just hoard material to study. You'll have all the knowledge and to will theoretically be the greatest artist in the world as long as you don't attempt to actualize it by drawing anything. Then you can get down to any artist's real passion. Shitposting.

>>7648252
This

Also dynamic sketching. The dork was my instructor 10+ years ago and it’s literally a cheat code for drawing.

Be around other artists

>>7647961 (OP)
Enjoy drawing.

>>7649332
i still don't understand what dynamic sketching is

>>7649412
sketching, but non-statically

>>7649518
i still don't understand

>>7649519
it's sketching, but dynamically

>>7649332
>kim jung gi:dead
>karl kopinski: stroke
>peter han: millers fisher syndrome
who's next? guys, be careful drawing from imagination.

>>7649412
Draw through the object

Don’t outline it

>>7647961 (OP)
Loomis books are the secret to get good.
>David Finch recs it
>Jim Lee recs it
>Alex Ross worships him
>Manga artist on Youtube recs it
>Fujimoto shows it on his manga bout drawing
>Pro anime animators rec it on Animator Dormitory youtube channel
>Kunikata (anime animator) recs it on Yahoo Japan
>Twitter/X anime animators show photos of his books on their timelines
>Tonari animation animators used his books to train rookie animators
>Ryan Ottley (Invincible comic artist) recs it on his Tumblr
>Roger Cruz (X-men artist) learned to draw from his books in the 90s
There's plenty of other pro artists that rec Loomis and they're from all over the world, so not reading Loomis is why Cavemen didn't make it 10000 years ago and why Renaissance painters are /BEG/

>>7647981
I want to add "generally being engrossed in what you are doing, and making conscious decisions".

It's easy, especially once you do have a certain level of experience, to go on autopilot, which makes it difficult to improve. But if you are thinking of something other than what you are doing, it becomes basically impossible to preform at the level of your ability, let alone push yourself and improve.

whats the secret to forcing myself to draw instead of falling asleep/watching anime?

>>7647961 (OP)
yes, it's AI
I can draw in every style known to mankind. I faster, better, I'm better than 100% of the so called traditional artists.
Penpigs
Colorswines

We won.

>>7649836
>death threats
Sounds like a fun time for 2A

>>7649835
Hire someone to punch you in the mouth

>>7649803
Take the Loomis pill anons.

>>7649803
Loomis books are great, you can start as a /beg/ but to properly absorb the information, you should be at least low /int/ and the information is gold so it will last you through even /pro/

>>7649864
>pantsu_ripper
don't trust a trooner

Do you have a grasp on how your mind processes information? Certain methods of “drawing” or visualization may not work for you the same as it works for others.

Once you figure that out consciously or unconsciously drawing will become easier. I enjoy sculpting more than drawing so my drawings gravitate towards how the subject sits in the physical space. Graphic artists have a different way of processing. Comic artists have a different way of processing, ect ect.

You have to figure it out. Once again being around other artists will help.

>>7647961 (OP)

>>7649869
A /beg/ can start with FWAP and when they're done with it they should read SD, when they finish SD they're /int/ then they can read FDFAIT and HAH just fine.
After that when they're /ADV/ they can read CI and EOTP and become a God of art like Loomis-Sensei.

>>7649525
i mean villppu probably doesnt have much time left, listening to his voice get weaker and weaker is pretty grim

>>7649862
>2A
Artists are majority liberal dorks and onions or from such states, they don't own guns.Go call the cops lmao.

vilppu vs loomis, whos takin the crown?

>>7651176
You do know that Loomis is a golden age illustrator, right?

>>7651189
dodging the question

>>7651039
>Artists are majority liberal dorks and onions or from such states
Murican artists used to be so good decades ago but now they're like this anon said. I may be a thirdie but artists here fuck hoes and buy cars.

>>7651176
Loomis is the greatest art teacher in history and Vilppu is the greatest art teacher of today.
Loomis is why anime & manga art is so detailed and Vilppu is why modern 2D Disney is so good.
I'm a huge fan of animation so I can't help but worship both, but I'm a big weeb so Loomis.

>>7649836
Wtf is the copium amalgamation?

>>7651176
>>7651387
Loomis and Buscema are why Marvel, DC & Image had so many good artists before the comic industry crashed and burned so he's the GOAT. In the 90s Disney had a near monopoly on his books so thank God we have the internet now to download his stuff for free.

>>7651387
>Vilppu is why modern 2D Disney is so good.
I hope this is bait.

can someone blackpill me on vilppu? admittedly i don't find artbooks very helpful at my level but loomis has the only ones that feels comprehensible for a complete beginner. is he only good for /int/s? what is it?

>>7651407
Vilppu taught the Disney guys that went on to create the late 80s and early 90s animated movies, You know the movies that saved Disney.

>>7651428
>is he only good for /int/s? what is it?
Vilppu figure drawing manual is for /BEG/ too you're just too dumb for art so quit it and learn to code Javascript like a code monkey.

>>7651439
He was just a life drawing teacher, Disney will often hire one for inhouse life drawing sessions. The actual credit goes to The Nine Old Men and Walt Stanchfield.

>>7651444
nah i draw pretty regularly i just copy references cause i don't find the shorthands and shit from those books useful

>>7651039
Says who? Fox News? I know a lot of liberals that own guns and can shoot pretty well.

>>7651039
>>7651369
>>7651467
A lot are also mentally ill and if they're in such states then likely don't have the money to hire a lawyer to fight for their 2A rights. All because glowies keep grooming people into becoming shooters and bombers as target practice.

The secret is just to draw. There are things you can't teach unless you experience them and drawing is one of those experiences.

By reading you will not learn to draw BUT by drawing you will.

>>7647981
This assumes that /beg/s and even intermediate artists have any capacity to recognize their weaknesses. It's only good advice for an already competent and advanced artist.

>>7651428
Vilppu is the sole reason I escaped the /beg/ mines 5 years ago.

>>7647961 (OP)
Don't be autistic.

Took a while for me to figure it out.

>>7648189
People who reject this advice are legit influencer/teacher faggots who want you to buy their courses. Fundamentals are less important than you think, just look at Proko, drawabox and others.