I thought AI could never do traditional art. I thought painters and sketchers were safe. What are we supposed to do now?

>>7652870 (OP)
Printers already existed dipshit, so who the fuck cares?

>>7652870 (OP)
Let's look beyond the problem of outsourcing art to non-humans as there are now more terrifying implications of an AI-powered entity that can physically manipulate objects in outside of cyberspace.

Good thing I pivoted to handmade sculpture, robots won't have the dexterity for it for at least 20 years.

>>7652870 (OP)
wow a fancy printer. sure everybody will be able affort it.

>>7652882
Yeah but this one looks like edna mode with down's. That's got to count for something.

>>7652920
I'd rather fuck my canon printer.
Actually, why are they making this overly complicated AI powered printer shit? Where's my fucking sexbots!? Sam Altman! Where is it? Where the fuck is my walking and talking AI fleshlight Elon!?
The fuck is wrong with these nerds' priorities?

>>7652870 (OP)
AI art is a joke, complex the art pieces lead to melting, cropping and other weird shit.
Try generating a painting with a huge crowd and see shit like picrel all the time, 2 more weeks and AI become better than all artists combined.

>>7652931
>Where's my fucking sexbots!? Sam Altman! Where is it? Where the fuck is my walking and talking AI fleshlight Elon!?
Real shit
They must hate money because they're wasting their time on robots that make art instead of robots that suck and fuck like a real woman.

A long time ago, some techcuck seethed that someone could draw and they couldn't, and here we are. But it's really as simple as, why would a size queen want her small penis cuck boyfriend to wear a sleeve when she can have the real thing?

>>7653141
Draw a huge crowd anon, go ahead. Let's see your try.

Also
>esl

>>7653159
>Let's see your try
>your
Also
>esl
Native speakers like (you) are a disgrace.
>>7653145
Soon.

>>7653187
'Your' is the correct word esl

>>7652870 (OP)
What's the point of making these?
At least in the past robots were also beautiful

>>7652905
3d printers...

>>7652870 (OP)
Even digital artists are safe so long as they can prove they are human somehow. Commissions might have decreased a little bit on average, but thats about it, average person dislikes AI and will continue to dislike it until we get UBI utopia where robots fuck our dicks 24/7.

>>7653357
Commissions decreased because we stopped getting covidbux and unemployment and wages are collapsing with the tech bubble. All the femboy furry comp-sci majors are poorfags now.

>>7653357
>average person dislikes AI
No, the average artfag and terminally online reddit troon dislikes AI. Normal people are fine with AI shit.

>>7653357
>, average person dislikes AI
They don't dislike AI, they dislike BAD AI art.

SHUT THE FUCK UP
AND
GET BACK
TO
DRAWING
!!!!

>>7653474
>Normal people are fine with AI shit
That's true if you're a dumbfuck that only use 4chin and no where else.

>>7653479
Anti-AI people don't even dislike AI. They can't even identify it half the time and keep accidentally liking genned images.

>>7653474
I don't think you're quite right, from my end the sentiment seems seems to be that at best indifference, and if there IS any opinion, it leans to being quite negative.
But, it probably changes from crowd to crowd - it is interesting that AI companies, and new companies too, haven't spoken about what the general public sentiment is; you think it'd be an easy win, if not for the AI companies, for the news.

>>7653480
Ok, I'm sorry I just took a break but I will go back to drawing I swear, just a couple more minutes of 4chan browsing and I will go right back to it
I swear anon

Jeets are still upset that suspiciously rich furries won't pay them to proompt.

>>7653480
no its over, better get off this planet while we still can

No use arguing with dead people. AI can replace stuff that might as well have been ai anyways, doesn't change that it'll never do anything worthwhile. No matter what techfags and nodraws tell you.

Draw, nigga! Now!

you can tell AI shilling on /ic/ completely cratered after the hack

>>7653602
they're spamming bots and jeets in every other board because it's not active enough

>>7653489
I could argue that pro AI people don't like AI enough, the allowed several AI projects to flop. If it isn't porn specific to their tastes they don't care about others output most o the time.

>>7653636
That's probably true, yeah. And also porn is just slop in general, focusing on waifu crap isn't really helping. There are very few AI artists I would actually consider good, it's definitely not enough to convince anyone AI use can be good sometimes.

>>7652870 (OP)
Hell OP why doomfag on something that already is practically out done by a printer. Pretty sure this was already done with just the robot arm alone. Rest of the body is just aesthetics
You do realize too traditional stuff is also valued by the person making it right...

>>7653474
Only terminally online redditors and artfags are loud about it, but the average person when asked does prefer non-AI stuff. And besides, most of online traffic are terminally online redditors anyway, so the people who liked your art before AI are the same that dislike AI now.
>>7653489
Yeah, if you can prove it like I said dumb nigger. Also if your style looks like the default AI slop that people recognize based on the colors and composition then that is your fault. Change your style, at least change the way you use colors or do details to not look like the most obvious AI image.

>>7653943
When did I say anyone mistakes me for AI?

Anyway, we had this thing a couple months ago, which most people failed.
https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/ai-art-turing-test

This guy's been doing the rounds recently, with no one realizing he uses AI before retweeting him. Many seppuku.
https://x.com/0__11Xx

Not to mention the countless baseless witch hunts over messy art or mistakes. Beyond the obvious slop, people don't really know what AI images look like anymore. It's just a 'vibe' and might as well just be targeted at anyone you don't like. If you didn't use AI, you traced AI. If you didn't trace AI, you referenced AI. If you didn't reference AI it is anyway, fuck you. Your sketch is faked, your timelapse is faked, pushing the big red CANCELLED button to collect all that sweet social capital.

>>7654297
NTA but
>Anyway, we had this thing a couple months ago, which most people failed.
>https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/ai-art-turing-test
I remember thinking that test was exceptionally flawed. About half the images in it were purposely done so as to catch people out - Who gives a fuck if ai does overly abstract images? Why show old art in a style no one works in anymore, that's also overly abstract? Why show a human made image that was purposely made to look ai generated? Trash test.

>This guy's been doing the rounds recently, with no one realizing he uses AI before retweeting him. Many seppuku.
>https://x.com/0__11Xx
Doesn't look like he gets much interaction from the images I quickly looked at, but that might be because he seems to flood his feed as much as possible, like all AI tards do, and this caused his work to lose its place in the 'algorithm', thereby getting fucked by AI, ironically.

>Not to mention the countless baseless witch hunts over messy art or mistakes.
They'd do that shit with tracing, or references, or being too close to each other's styles, and other dumb drama shit too, so it's hardly an AI thing.
I think AI images are more noticeable than you think, sure some aren't, but most are.
This is particularly true because AI tards don't actually care about their images, this is why they flood their pages, it's only about quantity. Any actual effort is too much effort, why bother refining the image? If they ever had any actual passion they'd have picked up a pencil. The only really good AI users are artists themselves, because they at least know how to put effort into an image.

>>7654341
>purposely done so as to catch people out
So? You still can't tell. And for the record, I got a 90 on that test, so it's not nearly as tricky as you think it is. You just don't actually know what signifies 'human' art despite caring about it so much. Anyone can recognize a shitty oversmoothed anime waifu, but thinking that's the only thing AI can be used for is overly reductionist and a little insulting to both AI and manual art. That art that 'looks like AI' is just as bad as art that actually is AI, just reinforces the fact that actually being AI is not what you actually have a problem with, it's just an arbitrary label.

>Doesn't look like he gets much interaction
Brother, he has 100k followers and gets 1-2k likes on most of his posts while posting several times a day. Every week or so one will go over 10k. 10 days ago one hit 76k. How much interaction is good interaction? He's getting numbers on par with Yuming Li at half the followers. If these guys weren't posting so much, barely anyone would recognize they were AI.

>it's hardly an AI thing.
It isn't, that's true, but what AI pushback did is create 'teams' large enough to throw around real power. It introduced identity politics into the act of drawing. Not the content, the action. Pen to paper. Everyone's gotta fly their colors with their little emoji and report all the sloppas to the Artstoppo for their tuppence of validation. Real Human Artists are a protected minority of special little imaginatives now. It's a system that encourages lazy and outright bad artists to feel, not just valid, but righteous simply for existing, for no effort besides believing the correct truth.

>>7654433
Nta but I largely agree with you. Especially the last part.

I love frying idpol idiots' brains by showing them all the (non-ai) artists' discord servers I'm in that have dedicated AI channels, or pointing out how many artists are knowingly using AI pics on an as-needed basis among their collages of 60-95% non-AI refs. Or how there are non-AI artists making LoRAs of own art to share with their fans. Or that I encourage AI artists to take it slower and git gud at it if they really like the process, and will compliment what I think is decent AI art.
It breaks their brains. When someone calls me a traitor and I just laugh at them and tell them I was never on their "side" to begin with.

>>7653479
>>7653489
Nobody actually likes AI gens, not even AI proompters themselves. Every single "serious" AI project failed. Every time AI is injected into anything, it's done as sneakily as possible. Proomters don't even like each other, every AI gen thread is full of schizos constantly flinging shit at each other, people hide their prompts, everybody haters everyone else, there's no comradery. Even on this hellhole in /beg/ people uplift and encourage each other. AI threads? Lol even /v/ and /pol/ will seem reasonable. Proomters simply lack basic human appreciation of other people. They are either egotistical or borderline sociopathic. They just don't care for other humans period. So they simply can not relate and appreciate others. Sometimes /g/ is an exception thought, because people over there like tech itself and they are not in it just for the result. So with the exception of curious tech enthusiasts, proomters are soulless husks. They are too self absorbed to care and learn about others and their stories. They will never create anything noteworthy, because they lack spirit, drive, mental fortitude required to see a project through. They are junkies addicted to instant gratification. Even thought they try to tell you otherwise, they themselves feel it in the withered core of their being - AI gens are worthless. They didn't pour a bit of humanity in it so it doesn't have any hence it feels empty. That's why to proomters entire value of AI lies exclusively in whether they can touch themselves looking at it. Purely utilitarian value is the only value they see.
They know it damn well, they don't like AI gens and they don't like other AI users. They don't like anything and anyone. And nothing of worth will ever come out of such people.

>>7654470
Counterpoint:
/d/ has better AI art threads than any other board

>>7654470
>Every time AI is injected into anything, it's done as sneakily as possible.
That's more a result of the idpol than anything. If there weren't masses of Filipino teenagers frothing at the mouth at the chance to call out the big bad AI, the corpos really would not give a shit.

>>7654470
>Every time AI is injected into anything, it's done as sneakily as possible
This isn't true at all. There's a ton of fucking "USING AI TECHNOLOGY" shit all over now.
>people hide their prompts
Not true at all, where the fuck are you looking? Most AI people I've seen are giving their shit out all over when asked, or they embed it into the image's metadata for other people to download.
>They are junkies addicted to instant gratification
Anon this is most people. 90% of everything is shit for a reason. Of all the things that happen in your life, you are going to only care enough about around 10% of it to put effort in. And a large portion of that is already taken up by personal relationships.

Most of the random shitheads using chatgpt and midjourney to make crappy images to assist in their hustling, political shitflinging are actually using it for the equivalent of picrel. They're just generating something that fits a basic emotion or purpose. They aren't putting any artistry into it and they won't claim it's something they did with any form of effort or desire to be recognized for it.

There are dumbfuck AI artists who don't know what they're doing and spam ugly as sin things, just like there are /permabegs/ who aren't self-aware enough to realize that their tracings and crayon drawings are an eyesore, and photographers who upload a billion crappy, poorly exposed and shaky images. But there are also people who ARE actually putting effort in and sharing such techniques, contrary to your assertions. So every problem with AI art is not unique to AI art.

I don't see the point of fucking waging war on other artists like this. No AI artists I've talked with have looked down upon me and they have appreciated that I treat them as equals. At least one even started doing non-AI art after I spoke with them about ways to improve their AI art.

>>7652870 (OP)
what's actually demoralizing about this isn't even the fact that robots can do art, but this robot did better than 99.9% of anyone who ever posted here with ROBOTIC ARMS

>>7654795
if that's demoralizing to you you must be very new to this board. This board has successfully made me immune to all external demoralization. Though we both know you're OP ;)

>>7652870 (OP)
But I gave up on FireAlpaca

>>7654433
>So? You still can't tell.
Yes, you're right. On pieces of art purposely made to look like AI or to obfuscate it, I can't tell, you're right. Totally fair test then, with totally legitimate results that says a lot about this issue, yep.
And for the record, I scored on the higher end as well, I didn't even really care about the results though, because I just thought the test was bullshit, still think it's bullshit, and it's not a good arbiter or proof of anything.
Using the test to check for likely use cases of where AI would be used would have been more appropriate - so yes a test of just overly shiny anime waifus would have unironically been more legitimate, that's how shit that test was.

>Brother, he has 100k followers and gets 1-2k likes on most of his posts while posting several times a day.
And yet his pieces seem to have 0-2 generic comments. usually zero. Do you think all clout chases have legit responses and interactions? Why would someone who uses AI be above using such techniques as well?
Regardless, Just scrolling through my own feeds, I see artists with less followers have a higher percentage of their followers engaging with their work. I know it seems like cope, but as a 'popular artist' who proves that people can't tell what is and isn't AI, he just doesn't seem to have much buzz around him despite his 'big numbers' - like a youtube video that has hundreds of thousands of views, but no comments, the popularity seems manufactured or faded.
Also, the fact that you pegged him as being ai, and others have as well (as according to you), proves the opposite of what you wanted, no?

>It's a system that encourages lazy and outright bad artists to feel, not just valid, but righteous simply for existing
Eh, I feel like nothings changed. Their art isn't bad, it's just "they're style", after all. The art world was always like this, to its own detriment.
The criticism may have changed (from tracing to AI), but its use as a weapon hasn't.

>>7654481
>That's more a result of the idpol than anything. If there weren't masses of Filipino teenagers frothing at the mouth at the chance to call out the big bad AI
Indian hands typed this post.

>want to upload a image to show my friend for feedback
>data-scraper behind every corner ready to add it to it's AI dataset
It's all so tiresome..

>>7653489
I don't like finding ai somewhere where it is unneccesery or realising something is AI halfway through.

You making a car story from your youth and the emotional connection you have to a specific model
BUT
instead of initial d clips and/ or collages of cars, stock video. you use ai animation,

It is unneccesery for me to enjoy it, and you also dont mark it as AI , i will block your channel since AI actively saps any enjoymrnt i have right out. And i dont like feeling tricked.

Making something labled as AI movie. Fair enough.

Placeholders or extreme budget games that are clearly marked as using AI,
sure i can stomack it, a profesional /semiprofesionals using it is a nogo for me, especially when not marked properly.

You may or may not enjoy and may or may not do the same thing i did.

I have spent years not watching movies , not listening to music and not playing vidya back when i was in uni. I can go withouth them for longer still.

>>7652870 (OP)
Tradfags wish to they could lose to AI. They've already lost long long ago and its not even funny. At least the AI draws.

>>7652870 (OP)
>What are we supposed to do?
DRAW

>>7652870 (OP)
Wow an arm that moves a drawing tool accordingly to a set of instructions
Imagine if we could mass produce this technology, maybe resizing it to someone's needs and compacting it into a box, imagine