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Anonymous No.7653820 [Report] >>7653826 >>7653871 >>7653882 >>7653912 >>7653981 >>7654174 >>7655317 >>7657830 >>7658716 >>7658802 >>7658818 >>7661153 >>7662087 >>7662211 >>7662242
Do you think NSFW art will make it?
Credit card companies are bringing the hammer down on more taboo art but I believe this only the start. I can foresee a world where all NSFW art is banned due to pressure from credit card companies wanting to preserve their brand. Do you think crypto will become the go to for accepting commissions?
Anonymous No.7653826 [Report] >>7653857
>>7653820 (OP)
>I can foresee a world where all NSFW art is banned
No way . There will always be some work around for it.
Anonymous No.7653830 [Report]
I am trying to save all coom artists, they need to join my thread. >>7647642
Anonymous No.7653841 [Report]
NSFW art exists outside of the internet so whatever. I'll have a book full of porn in actual bookstores by the end of the year, I'm not too worried.
Anonymous No.7653849 [Report]
PayPal is accepted on Patreon. Follow their guidelines and you'll be fine.
You are just an artist quietly using PayPal to receive payments. Everything you do is happening behind closed doors.
Payment processors are far more concerned about live-action pornography, prostitution or more recently hentai games on Steam who proudly display the PayPal logo next to gold bikini oppai loli.
Anonymous No.7653857 [Report] >>7653861
>>7653826
When the internet enforces real id to use? It’s coming. You know it.
Anonymous No.7653861 [Report]
>>7653857
Digital ID for internet access is a great idea since it would automatically filter out all underageb&.
We should also invent a time machine and prevent the third world from ever gaining access to our Internet and let India have it's own firewall, like China.
Anonymous No.7653862 [Report] >>7653870
The problem here isn't so much that artists will find it harder to make or sell smut. It's that that difficulty scales up really fast when your operations grow, an individual artist can survive in any kind of environment but businesses like animation studios or game developers will find it far too difficult to stay in business when they need to pay salaries, income tax and rent for offices and other shit like that. If you start a project right now and expect it to take four years to become complete, you will finish your work under a different government from the one you started with. At the rate that legislation is moving in the democratic world, which is just because governments need to justify their existence, every rule and regulation about anything might be different by the time you're ready to publish. Will you really take on multiple employees, investor money, real-estate liabilities, insurances, lawyers etc with full understanding that what you're going to be doing might become literally illegal before you'll see any return from it? The reality is that pornography is already dead and what remains of it is only a few individual producers working their single person projects, be that sluts on onlyfans, fan-art artists on patreon, or indie developers on dlsite. The porn industry has no ability to organize beyond this.
Anonymous No.7653870 [Report]
>>7653862
Good.
Anonymous No.7653871 [Report] >>7653876
>>7653820 (OP)
>Credit card companies are bringing the hammer down on more taboo art but I believe this only the start.
Why do you guys think this is something new? Where does this misconception come from?
Money processors have been anti NSFW for more than a decade now.

The new hot topic in town is porn sites requesting IDs.
Anonymous No.7653876 [Report]
>>7653871
It's probably because there's an instance of a credit card company enforcing increasingly more strict rules on businesses coming out roughly once a week, whereas porn sites requiring IDs is something that hasn't progressed from the talking stage in three decades. The websites that actually want my ID are twitter and youtube. A porn site has never asked me for one, and if they're legally required to, they will simply not serve my country. It is actually literally not happening.
Anonymous No.7653880 [Report] >>7653897
last year
>noooo porn is never gonna be heckin banned, puritan!
>nooooo internet IDs will never be a thing, schizo!
ffw now
>noooo heckin credit card companies banning porn whats next internet IDs?
Well, well, well
It's like you get an glimpse into the future and you always reject it until it manifests
Anonymous No.7653882 [Report] >>7653888 >>7653962
>>7653820 (OP)
if anything, this retarded behavior form credit card companies gives me more motivation to draw loli porn. Maybe it's time to learn it just to spite them
>but the commissions!! theyre gonna ban them
IDC Im just a hobbyist with a non-art job. "It's not about money, it's about sending a message" one would say.
Anonymous No.7653888 [Report] >>7653889
>>7653882
I'm just waiting around for others to realize that it is actually about money. If it wasn't, it wouldn't be the money businesses abusing their leverage. If it was about the message, then the media industry would be the one doing it. When the central problem is that they're making the rules, you don't get to make the rules. So it's about money.
Anonymous No.7653889 [Report] >>7653890
>>7653888
Sorry bro everyone is busy screeching about le censhorshit to rally kids to defend porn
Anonymous No.7653890 [Report] >>7653892
>>7653889
You're saying this because you think that children are porn.
Anonymous No.7653892 [Report] >>7653896
>>7653890
You're litcherally in my head, i behold your psychotelepathetic skills
Anonymous No.7653896 [Report]
>>7653892
Rent free, even, as they say.
Anonymous No.7653897 [Report] >>7653899 >>7654013 >>7654026
>>7653880
>last year
>>noooo porn is never gonna be heckin banned, puritan!
It still isn't. There's too much money involved for this to happen.

>ffw now
>>noooo heckin credit card companies banning porn whats
This has been a thing for over a decade.
Literally nothing changed.

Does it feel good to live in a fantasy? Is this what they call the theist reality?
Anonymous No.7653899 [Report] >>7653948
>>7653897
It's not like i need your approval. I am simply gloating.
Anonymous No.7653905 [Report] >>7653907
>nsfw artists think they are part of the porn industry
lmao
Anonymous No.7653907 [Report]
>>7653905
bro, nsfw sloppers got nothing but mental illness, let em have that delusion at least
Anonymous No.7653912 [Report] >>7653930
>>7653820 (OP)
Japan's apparently already fed up and thinking of making alternatives. Frankly, I'm pissed - I don't even care for all the goon art out there, but I find it morally reprehensible that a financial service should try and dictate how businesses should operate and run... fuck that, and fuck them.

Personally, I'd like politicians to nut up and make this shit illegal (which it should be, financial services shouldn't be denied unless there's something illegal going on), but since politicians are the fucking worst and never do anything but fuck thing up, I'm doubtful they'd be any help here.
Hopefully an alternative comes along, and I can request my bank also take up those services, because I don't want to continue using authoritarian shithead services like Visa and mastercard, that act more like mafia gangs demanding capitulation than a financial institution.
Anonymous No.7653918 [Report]
>mfw the excessive levels of dopamine in my frontal lobe makes me feel ecstatic when posting about things I made up
Anonymous No.7653919 [Report] >>7653923 >>7653944
You google
>why banks consider adult industry high risk
you get 2 billion results

How would you handle a commissioner that maybe pays you or maybe tries to refund his money after you gave him the coom?
I don't think you'd like that.
Anonymous No.7653923 [Report] >>7653928
>>7653919
>commit credit card fraud
>the credit card company punishes the business that's being scammed
Anonymous No.7653928 [Report] >>7653932
>>7653923
Yes anon, it's only the one single thing that leads to the current situation.
Do you want some 4chan gold with the (you)?
Anonymous No.7653930 [Report] >>7653940
>>7653912
Japan already has alternatives.
Anonymous No.7653932 [Report] >>7653933
>>7653928
You can't buy that with your gay shitty scam cards.
Anonymous No.7653933 [Report]
>>7653932
It's ok chatgpt-kun, i fargibu u
Anonymous No.7653940 [Report] >>7653952
>>7653930
And yet japanese stores and services have still been the most impacted by these leeches in suits, so either they don't have an alternative, or that alternative is so shit even japanese companies would rather give up than use it.
Anonymous No.7653944 [Report] >>7653968
>>7653919
Art commissions can't be compared to instant porn website subscriptions. They get to see WIPs, interact with the artist and they can back out if they don't like the sketch.
A commission can take weeks to be completed. That's not something you spend money on if you need to bust a nut real quick.
Anonymous No.7653948 [Report] >>7653961
>>7653899
facts aren't approval. I'm explaining you that your gloating is based on a fantasy.
Anonymous No.7653952 [Report]
>>7653940
The e-cash systems aren't very compatible with internet services.
But the actual problem is that the credit unions are pressuring banks rather than businesses, and there are no legitimate alternatives to banks. Even if you find an alternative to credit cards, if your bank has capitulated to the credit unions before, the bank will apply the same rules to the business you do with the alternative payment methods just as well. To get out of this situation, the bank will need to stop issuing cards from hostile card companies, then wait until all of their customers' cards have been renewed, and then reverse their terms of service. It's currently too early for this to have been possible to happen although it's in progress, but even then there is no guarantee that banks will actually revert their rules when they have the opportunity to.
Also the potential of the foreign market makes businesses have an incentive for accepting foreign cards. They will all need to decide that the extra money isn't worth dealing with foreign regulators before they can be independent. This includes the Chinese market also, which is much more heavily regulated than the western market is.
Anonymous No.7653961 [Report] >>7653969 >>7654013
>>7653948
Facts about what?
What and who are you even arguing with? lmao
If anything you're just proving you're quite illiterate and maybe you should lurk some more.
Anonymous No.7653962 [Report] >>7653980
>>7653882
>sending a message
what message? You aren't making any money anyway or using their services, you're better off just sending loli garbage to their corporate building in masses. I know your kind is retarded, but I didn't expect it to be THIS retarded.
Anonymous No.7653968 [Report] >>7654108
>>7653944
Why do stores in high crime rate areas have their register behind thick plexiglass?
Anonymous No.7653969 [Report] >>7653976
>>7653961
>read more of my posts pls pls
Anonymous No.7653976 [Report] >>7653983
>>7653969
>waaaaaah my inane arguments had no effects
now say that i'm seething coping schizo meltdown
it will be funny and original,
Anonymous No.7653980 [Report] >>7653997 >>7653999
>>7653962
I literally said I dont care that im not making any money out of art because I already have a job. My message to them is: I will draw whatever I want.
nigger faggot
Anonymous No.7653981 [Report]
>>7653820 (OP)
Porn will live on in one way or other
This is a bait thread and good job on this low quality of a bait
Here's your (you)
Anonymous No.7653983 [Report] >>7653988
>>7653976
I'm sorry you got molested
Anonymous No.7653988 [Report]
>>7653983
weird flex but whatever
your daddy still around?
Anonymous No.7653997 [Report]
>>7653980
>i will draw the edgy loli
>hehe nigger faggot
woah anon that's pretty cool
can i join your discord? (not a fed btw)
Anonymous No.7653998 [Report] >>7654008 >>7654016
has anyone actually been banned from paypal or whatever because of nsfw comms though? how do you even get caught for something like that?
Anonymous No.7653999 [Report] >>7654035
>>7653980
"Draw what ever you want" means nothing when it doesn't pressure them or do anything, you retarded fuck. They won't care, you lolifaggots are so braindead.
Anonymous No.7654008 [Report]
>>7653998
you get caught because some cilents will say shit like"YOOO that ass shot is hot" or "Thanks for the porn my guy". Another way is being mass reported, which will cause an investigation from their team and ban you.
Anonymous No.7654013 [Report] >>7654017
>>7653961
>Facts about what?
I already said it. Is it really this hard to read back?
Money processors being against porn isn't a NEW thing. It's been around for more than a decade.
>>7653897
What exactly don't you understand?
Anonymous No.7654016 [Report] >>7654027
>>7653998
Been in the business for 13 years now. Always used PayPal and never had one single issue.
Anonymous No.7654017 [Report]
>>7654013
What exactly are you still trying to be contrarian about? I don't get it
Anonymous No.7654026 [Report] >>7654041
>>7653897
The credit companies fully expanded in first world countries and are trying to grow via getting every third worlder to be cashless.
For this to occur they are gunning for the lowest common denominator among enough shithole locations to give them maximum reach. Meaning, everything banned is done to satisfy some requirement or another.

This layers on top of shit like FOSTA-SESTA and Operation Chokepoint, that massively increased the financial risk of operating in the US by making fed raids more likely. Other countries have various "online safety" acts that do similar shit.
Policy from government arms can increase risk substantially even when no law exists. Real example - The FDA determined that selling Laxogenin (a /fit/ supplement) is suspicious enough to qualify for them to open investigations and raids on supplement companies to see if they are doing anything illegal. This was the FDA's workaround to "ban" it because they could not get Laxogenin to be classified as illegal. So it is effectively banned among many reliable producers because of the FDA's bullying via a loophole. You can still find some companies that accept or don't know about this risk and sell it. But they are much shadier, this shit used to be sold by larger, more reliable places with a good reputation.
Anonymous No.7654027 [Report] >>7654077 >>7654103 >>7661784
>>7654016
Anon, paypal locks your account once your total cash flow exceeds like $700, you haven't done shit.
Anonymous No.7654035 [Report]
>>7653999
Dude im just a man with a dream, I obviously cant take down a multi million company on my own. They can buy out the entire world's compliance but not mine it's what i meant
'Braindead' and 'retarded fuck' are some bold insults for someone who cant even recognize hyperbole to use
Anonymous No.7654041 [Report] >>7654052
>>7654026
For all the whining about a cashless society that people do, they never seem to actually act upon it. If you know it's a problem, you have to use your knowledge to do everything you can to work against it. I transfer money through post office money orders and everything else is either through cash, monero, or an ATM card. My credit card only gets used every other month or so when I buy something online. What do you do?

It's easy to set up payment the way people used to: "send a money order or cash to P.O Box XXX". Failing that you could probably use libera pay. You'd have less customers for a while but fuck it, sending a message is more important. There are work arounds to problems, but the important thing is to live your life according to the problems you want to fix. Ignore those who whine and cry about it being hard or pointless; they are NPCs and therefore anathema
Anonymous No.7654043 [Report]
In all honestly, normies deserverd the jab and they deserve to get their porn taken away.
Even better if they get their money take away too.
Sucks to be you
>b-b-b-but it will affect you too
No. We are not the same species, monkey.
Get fucked.
lol
Anonymous No.7654052 [Report] >>7654060
>>7654041
This is caused by retards giving governments too much power. Cashless would be wonderful if some dickhead groups of people were not given unilateral power to interfere in fully consentual transactions that violate nobody else's rights.
Anonymous No.7654060 [Report] >>7654080 >>7654082 >>7654084
>>7654052
A cashless society that was entirely anonymous, universally accepted, didn't require fulltime connection to the internet, and didn't require a device to use, let alone an expensive and unethical device one, would be great. But why try to reinvent the wheel when cash already exists? Convenience? Because you're annoyed of dropping coins? Pathetic.
Anonymous No.7654077 [Report] >>7654083
>>7654027
One phone call + ownership verification and it's yours again.
Anonymous No.7654080 [Report]
>>7654060
This actually exists in Japan. Felica is anonymous, doesn't require constant connectivity, is outside of the control of financial institutions, and is accepted almost everywhere except online.
The reason for doing it is that a system that does require connectivity is too slow to get Japanese commuters through ticket gates in large and busy metro areas at rush hour. If you don't need ~700ms time optimizations for your civilization to function, then you will not get mainstream anonymous digital cash.
Anonymous No.7654082 [Report] >>7654434
>>7654060
This nigga wants to send $13.87 by mail.
Anonymous No.7654083 [Report] >>7654106
>>7654077
>never had one single issue*
*had one single issue
Anonymous No.7654084 [Report] >>7654434
>>7654060
>universally accepted
Impossible standard to meet. No single currency is universally accepted. And many places are "cash only" or "no cash, only card" as well.
>didn't require fulltime connection to the internet, didn't require a device to use,
Building on top of the internet (and other technology) allows us to do things that are impossible without it.
>let alone an expensive and unethical device one
The fact that phones and many current PCs are compromised (as well as laser printers and so on) is a downstream effect of "giving governments too much power."

You have set up a cardboard cutout of retarded demands and then proceeded to knock it down to declare yourself a boxing champion. At best you are just too retarded to understand cause-and-effect.
Anonymous No.7654103 [Report] >>7654130
>>7654027
My account was never really locked. Once I reached that amount (I think it was different back then), they simply asked me to provide my ID, which is common practice to prevent money laundering. I gave them my credentials and continued using PayPal like nothing happened.

I draw for a living and 700 bucks is pocket change. How old are you? 15?
Anonymous No.7654106 [Report]
>>7654083
Common practice isn't really what I'd call an issue.
Anonymous No.7654108 [Report]
>>7653968
Placebo.
I'll rob them anyway.
Anonymous No.7654130 [Report] >>7655245
>>7654103
The limit was ~$5000 before covid, iirc. Plenty of businesses have gone bankrupt over these seizures, mostly because sometimes they last for months while the creditors have no recourse.
People who say that there are no problems with paypal usually haven't moved enough money through it to know about this.
Anonymous No.7654174 [Report] >>7654513
>>7653820 (OP)
Just mask your art. NSFW artists been doing this for years because Paypal sucks ass.
Anonymous No.7654434 [Report] >>7654447
>>7654082
Is that tough for you?
>>7654084
>Impossible standard to meet
Internationally, yes. I'm not talking about that so I should've made it explicit. I was thinking more along the lines of cryptocurrency
>"no cash, only card"
Yeah, fuck those people. I refuse to patronize those places. That cancer is still in its early stages.
>Building on top of the internet (and other technology) allows us to do things that are impossible without it.
That's what people should be worried about.
>The fact that phones and many current PCs are compromised (as well as laser printers and so on) is a downstream effect of "giving governments too much power."
Private companies abuse this too, but the fact of the matter is that the devices are overbearing and, in many ways, unethical.
>At best you are just too retarded to understand cause-and-effect.
Jesus Christ dude you don't have to get so touchy over this. I described what cash is in America and wherever it is accepted. What's your deal? Do you get so many points from your card that the effect you have on yourself and the society around you is worth it? Does me pointing that out offend you?
Anonymous No.7654447 [Report] >>7654597
>>7654434
I have clients from outside of the US and I want to be able to import shit that isn't made here without being limited to only what chink dick suckers stock.

Uncle Ted was mostly wrong in his main axioms and assumptions, even if some of his observations were ahead of his time.
Anonymous No.7654513 [Report]
>>7654174
mask?
Anonymous No.7654525 [Report]
dude there are nsfw artists in countries where porn is illegal, people will always find a way
Anonymous No.7654597 [Report] >>7654605
>>7654447
>I have clients from outside of the US and I want to be able to import shit that isn't made here without being limited to only what chink dick suckers stock.
Same. That's why I set up money orders and wire transfers. The latter are pretty much relegated to manufacturing things but the suppliers I work with are fine with exchanging and recieving that way.
>Uncle Ted was mostly wrong in his main axioms and assumptions, even if some of his observations were ahead of his time.
Yeah, I agree. I used to have more thoughts on his manifesto but I've forgotten them.
Wait, why are we talking about Ted Kaczynski?
Anonymous No.7654605 [Report] >>7654637 >>7654640
>>7654597
You were talking about unethical devices and being worried about technology and advocating for just using cash.
Now I see that you're just interested in old tech that amounts to basically the same shit but is far more costly, slow, and still is subject to the whims of banks and government sticking their thumbs in financial pies. Even if you had your way and we all started using Western Union and other crap, they would be just as overbearing as Visa and Mastercard once they saturated the domestic market. The best solution is a theoretical direct 1-to-1 transfer of funds without an intermediary, the only real form of which that makes sense right now being the way crypto works, Monero in particular. Still, at present they mostly act like digital banknotes by being redeemable for fiat, but it's still better than nothing.

Also you dropped your fucking claim of anonymity being important since money orders and wire transfers are non-anonymous. Did you make that mask out of tissue paper or something?
Anonymous No.7654619 [Report]
Coom artists either get creative or they transit to Loom or coomis, there's no other way. It is top down, corporations down to governments, all agreed that porn is bag. The extreme end of the young people, on one hand they reject porn, on the other they embrace mental illness, LGBT, autism, and cult-like groups. The mainstream coom is death. Long live coom in a more seductive erotica version.
Anonymous No.7654637 [Report]
>>7654605
>You were talking about unethical devices and being worried about technology and advocating for just using cash.
Oh, do you think I'm one of those annoying teenagers that got super into him at one point and let a couple of mediocre essays guide his life? No, I'm just pointing out the obvious when I say that the camera/microphone/tracking devices that suck your time and money and sell it around the world for the low low price of 300+ dollars are unethical.
>Now I see that you're just interested in old tech
That's part of it, but it's more for the reason of redundancy than simple fascination. Technological monopolies are dangerous for pretty obvious reasons from that standpoint.
> the same shit but is far more costly,
So you aren't bothered by that 4% processing fee credit companies charge?
>Western Union
Man fuck Western Union
>Monero in particular
Yes, I mentioned that before
>Also you dropped your fucking claim of anonymity being important since money orders and wire transfers are non-anonymous.
Money orders from the post office are. Wire transfers aren't of course, but that's why I said I mainly use them for business purposes.
>mask
What mask? I was just telling you what I do. Again why are you so touchy? Are you on your period or something?
Anonymous No.7654640 [Report]
>>7654605
>You were talking about unethical devices and being worried about technology and advocating for just using cash.
Oh, do you think I'm one of those annoying teenagers that got super into him at one point and let a couple of mediocre essays guide his life? No, I'm just pointing out the obvious when I say that the expensive camera/microphone/tracking devices that demand your time, money and information to sell it around the world are unethical.
>Now I see that you're just interested in old tech
That's part of it, but it's more for the reason of redundancy than simple fascination. Technological monopolies are dangerous for pretty obvious reasons from that standpoint.
> the same shit but is far more costly,
So you aren't bothered by that 4% processing fee credit companies charge?
>Western Union
Man fuck Western Union
>Monero in particular
Yes, I mentioned that before
>Also you dropped your fucking claim of anonymity being important since money orders and wire transfers are non-anonymous.
Money orders from the post office are. Wire transfers aren't of course, but that's why I said I mainly use them for business purposes.
>mask
What mask? I was just telling you what I do. Again why are you so touchy? Are you on your period or something?
Anonymous No.7655245 [Report]
>>7654130
>People who say that there are no problems with paypal usually haven't moved enough money through it to know about this.
In the last 10 years I've been using it I must have had 300k+ USD on my balance. At times I have up to 10k on my account and the only limits I'm aware of are the ones imposed by VISA, because it's the only transaction option between PP and my regional bank (currently standing at 2k EUR per day).

What are we talking abou?
Anonymous No.7655317 [Report]
>>7653820 (OP)
Its only a matter of time until goverments crackdown on those fuckers. There are serious reasons other than porn why for example the eu or china would have an interest in breaking up the duopoly and ensuring neutrality of payment processors. The outrage over censorship will make it much easier to gather support to act against them.
Anonymous No.7657830 [Report] >>7657949
>>7653820 (OP)
All I want is total soul death. It's what the public deserves. I want the death of everything creative or beautiful or human. I want all art to be shit on a canvas, LGBT propaganda or futa furries cockvoring each other while farting. Possibly all 3 combined. Of course all made with AI by pajeets. I literally want every single person with talent to stop wasting his time and pursue a lucrative career instead, possibly one that comes at the expense of normalniggers.
Anonymous No.7657949 [Report] >>7658653
>>7657830
so that just leave with perma/beg/ faggots like you?
Anonymous No.7658653 [Report]
>>7657949
>nooo keep posting art saar
Anonymous No.7658716 [Report]
>>7653820 (OP)
Creditcard companies couldn't care less about some random bozo trade.
Anonymous No.7658760 [Report] >>7659232
Crypto is the obvious worke around. Most people aren't using it though. Is there a way to easily revive cash payments that are converted into crypto? Then what the customer is paying for with the credit card is crypto, not porn. Then the crypto is immediately traded for porn.
Anonymous No.7658801 [Report]
They just removed a bunch of loli games that were on Steam. I don't understand this level of pearl clutching.
Anonymous No.7658802 [Report]
>>7653820 (OP)
I foresee more physical doujin releases like ye olden days and artpacks released on USB drives mailed out if it becomes a real issue.
Anonymous No.7658806 [Report] >>7658847
Most people on /ic/ dont make money let alone followers from their art so nothing would change
Anonymous No.7658818 [Report] >>7665190
>>7653820 (OP)
>give away NSFW art for free because I do it for love not for money
I don’t see the problem?
Anonymous No.7658847 [Report]
>>7658806
Kek, /thread.
Anonymous No.7659232 [Report]
>>7658760
I actually thought of this as being a "real" use for NFTs.

Consider how Pachinko gets around gambling laws in japan:
>pay for the balls.
>play pachinko
>get more balls
>trade them at the counter for a worthless token item
>go next door
>trade token item for cash

The only problem is that the "fees" of doing so (minting and such) increase your overhead by a lot. I don't think about this all that much so there may be a real way to do this outside of NFTs, like purchasing a "Digital Postcard" and then presenting the receipt of sale to the artist. But I am also not a lawyer so I have nooo idea if this is a region-exclusive way to circumvent it or if it would work generally.

It still would not fix how platforms like Ko-fi and Patreon have a nasty habit of digging through someone's shit due to them hating the PERSON and not the specific sale. But it might work for Gumroad or something.
Anonymous No.7661135 [Report] >>7661156 >>7661221
Serious question, but do brick and mortar smut stores not accept credit cards?
Anonymous No.7661153 [Report] >>7661156
>>7653820 (OP)
It was never about brand protection you stupid fucking nigger monkey.

The only way a person can generate any life sustaining income is either through effort or ideas. All valid avenues of legal effort are intentionally impossible to those who do not conform to the Globohomo agenda, and this longstanding war against "nsfw" has always been simply a war against the economic viability of private thought. Either you sell your private thoughts to a company who profits from them, or you make no profit with them.
Anonymous No.7661156 [Report]
>>7661135
They do in fact, which should prove to you that >>7661153
is not just hot air. What is the difference in selling Jew produced smut through a taxed corporation subject to "Democratic Regulation" and two people exchanging their private property for mutual satisfaction? The only difference is the Kike cannot take what is rightfully theirs, all Goyim property and life.
Anonymous No.7661221 [Report]
>>7661135
A brick and mortar porn shop in Pittsburgh is not at risk of becoming an international incident when Regional Governor Muhhamad J Matungo of the of west Bumfuckia Islands (Total Population 300 million) is looking for a scapegoat that he can claim is "damaging public morals" to suggest for the Prime Minister to use for slandering his opponent or freezing the local-office assets of to gain more funds to keep his military in check. A highly popular international NSFW website on the other hand, is easy to point a finger at.
Anonymous No.7661263 [Report] >>7661347
what is the actual reason credit card companies crack down on this shit? it doesn't really make sense to me that activist lobbying is actually having an effect on them, as if multinational corporations care about morals rather than money. doesn't this make them lose money for no reason?
Anonymous No.7661347 [Report] >>7661789
>>7661263
It's because of a few layers.

Current top layer 3:
>They reached maximum market saturation in the west and they want every thirdworlder on credit
>thirdworld countries are backwards authoritarian shitholes and like to ban things as a political move or for stealing the money out of private businesses, especially the local branches of multinationals
Layer 2, this is where we were during most of the 2010s:
>Unlike the phone companies, governments looove bullying financial institutions when illegal transactions go through them
>Numerous high profile raids in the past related to things like drug running and human trafficking
>Operation Chokepoint, FOSTA-SESTA, KYC laws, anti-terrorist-funding bills, etc etc
>So they have more risk from governments cracking down on them and imposing heavy legal costs (you can't really settle with a government like you can in civil court) if they turn a blind eye
>Easier to just be hostile to things wholesale

Layer 1 (the base, where things were before around 2012ish):
>Porn sites have a high rate of chargebacks
>NSFW art is small enough that it's lumped in with porn

In all cases you SOMETIMES can negotiate to just pay higher fees but this often requires additional documentation and so on. Most websites do not want to do this because it cuts into their margins too much, and the actual people running them are beholden to investors, hosting companies (who sometimes ALSO get threatened with higher fees as a result), etc. The investors often will veto it as they have no personal investment in the enterprise and would rather just burn the company down to get their bag and leave.

But if it's your own website you can go through the hassle of using PaymentCloud or some shit, it's just a pain in the ass.
Anonymous No.7661784 [Report]
>>7654027
You niggas didn't put your ID upon signin up? Now I feel silly
Anonymous No.7661789 [Report] >>7662048
>>7661347
All those buzzwords and all those words but not actual explanations.
Are you getting paid to post or are you fearing you're going to be out of a grift, Carlos?
Anonymous No.7662048 [Report]
>>7661789
2000 characters is a pain in the ass.
VISA and Mastercard are publicly traded companies. Their aim is to make their number go up. This is primarily achieved via having people who aren't on credit sign up for new cards and use them, as that signals growth to the stock market. This has slowed in the west because of a stagnation/decline in population growth as well as just it reaching the point where the only people without some kind of a card are innawoods schizos.
Additionally, the more uncleared debt in the system, the more money they create, and the more a card is used the more they get to skim fees off the top.
Thus the priority is to get as many people as possible to open new accounts each quarter. This is achieved by going international. But that's got an issue in that the target countries (with millions of people not on international credit) are run by petty strongmen, religious cults, and conflicting factions of 70-IQ retards who worship statues and riot in exchange for being given gruel, rice and bread.
So the credit companies have to "play nice" by keeping their image as clean as possible. It seems irrational from the western side because it's the companies trying to appease actors whose aims are pure power, not profit or morality.

That's the problem right now. The 2nd layer has to do with legal impositions that western governments placed in their march towards being a surveillance state.
Anonymous No.7662087 [Report] >>7665170
>>7653820 (OP)
No, it's over. Total Puritan Domination coming soon. They're gonna make the 1800s look moderate.
Anonymous No.7662211 [Report]
>>7653820 (OP)
>Crypto
No
>Complete NSFW ban
Unlikely but with how things are going it's gonna be harder and harder as a business
Anonymous No.7662216 [Report] >>7662228
Weird how no one made a comparison to nazi book burning
ah yeah they won't because if they compare payment processors to nazis they might get blacklisted from ever making money ever again

lmao what a bunch of sociopathic faggots
Anonymous No.7662228 [Report]
>>7662216
Statists are statists no matter the color of their uniforms. All socialists are red inside.
Anonymous No.7662242 [Report] >>7662247 >>7662365 >>7662385
>>7653820 (OP)
>Credit card companies are bringing the hammer down on more taboo art but I believe this only the start
Yeah then someone creates a credit card company that doesn't give a fuck and instantly thrives!
Anonymous No.7662247 [Report] >>7662385
>>7662242
Good luck creating a payment processor when the other processors and the banks are teamed up against you.
Anonymous No.7662365 [Report] >>7665224
>>7662242
>gets instantly shut down for enabling organized crime to fund their money laundering schemes and other type of illegal activities
>but oh no muh taboo art!
Why do you gooners seem to believe you're the only people on the planet?
Anonymous No.7662385 [Report]
>>7662242
>>7662247
This is why crypto exists.
No, like, literally that's one of the original intentions. It draws its concepting back the Cypherpunk movement.
Anonymous No.7665170 [Report]
>>7662087
Whatever comes next, things will continue to get rapidly worse for everyone who isn't fanatically cheering and applauding 100% mass censorship and destruction of [new thing that offends joyless prudes/shiftless moneylenders].
Anonymous No.7665190 [Report]
>>7658818
It's funny isn't it? In the 2010s whenever someone would mention how bullshit it was to even reach an audience if you didn't draw porn everyone would spew this. Then the slightest threat to Patreon cocksucking happens and all these niggers are on suicide watch. I can't wait to see how many of the real artists will quit when they won't get paid for shitty porn scribbles anymore. Better learn to suck real dicks you fucking thirdie shits.
Anonymous No.7665224 [Report]
>>7662365
I don't think payment processors can stop the Epstein types.