Thread 7657707 - /ic/

Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:56:19 PM No.7657707
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How does one understand and internalize all the ways light can interact with the environment to be able to paint it from imagination? This seems kinda impossible without references, unless you master one light setup and stick with it for your entire career
https://youtu.be/hBoF5xk_n00
https://youtu.be/bRmxKAz3nc0
https://youtu.be/5PzzHo1VFFA
https://youtu.be/c7gpFQwtF68
https://youtu.be/f2WqMrAd598
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:57:35 PM No.7657710
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 10:11:57 PM No.7657737
>>7657710
can you back this up with your body of paintings?
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 10:20:07 PM No.7657753
>>7657707 (OP)
You just guess and draw what seems to look the best. (Or fits the mood best) There are no tricks or methods to be able to mathetically calculate wherever light will fall, your brain is not a GPU with path tracing capability.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 10:24:39 PM No.7657763
>>7657707 (OP)
>This seems kinda impossible without references
James Gurney would make very rough models to get lighting references for his work.
So if you're doing a complicated piece, you could try that. Just kitbash something together, grab a torch to light the scene and take some photos.
You could also try using AI, but I can't really see it making the exact scene you want, even if you feed it an img2img of your sketch... I swear AI is almost entirely useless...
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 10:41:59 PM No.7657790
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>>7657737
yes
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 10:47:01 PM No.7657793
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>>7657753
To reiterate this anon's point, your job as an artist isn't mathematical perfection. It's to convince the brain. It's why impressionism is one of my favorite styles. Look at this masterful watercolor painting by Sargent. Almost the entire painting is composed of blobs and shapes of color, but to your mind, it looks convincingly real because hard edges and defined shapes are placed where they matter. The point is, masterful painters don't learn how to perfectly recreate reality, they just learn the laws of reality so they can sell you the illusion of reality on a 2d plane. Once you study light enough, you can intuitively place it on the canvas in a way that convinces (You) and hopefully your audience. If it doesn't convince your audience, you don't understand the rules well enough yet.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 11:00:46 PM No.7657818
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Is this real?
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 11:31:45 PM No.7657879
>>7657790
>>7657818
Every single fucking time
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 11:35:33 PM No.7657881
>>7657707 (OP)
By learning how light interacts with materials, a lot of books on that.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 11:37:56 PM No.7657887
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robt
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>>7657818
How dare you use an (((ai))) image detector and take jobs away from all those poor starving clout chasers. Leave the AI image detecting to the real Humans you unskilled (((ai))) bootlicker. Calling people FAKERS is a REAL-HUMAN-EXPERIENCE and you can't use a FAKE AND BAD computer (with no Soul) to replace a Person's GOD given right to be annoying as fuck.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 11:37:57 PM No.7657888
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Does someone know what caused the difference in light here despite them coming from the same angle?
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 11:39:51 PM No.7657890
>>7657888
Either a soft fill on the right, or a reflector sheet, probably the latter.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 11:40:45 PM No.7657892
>>7657888
The one on the right has a reflector bouncing light back up into the shadows.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 11:42:32 PM No.7657895
>>7657890
A reflector alone wouldn't cause the highlights in the eyeballs to diffuse
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:05:54 AM No.7658542
>>7657895
Probably a diffuser over the light too then
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 9:17:35 AM No.7658580
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>>7657818
What are you using? The only AI detector I've found that relatively accurate and consistent is this one
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 9:45:36 AM No.7658584
>>7658580
That's the decopy.ai one. Pretty sure they're just using it to troll, it's hilariously bad. All the text on the site is AI generated.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:15:00 AM No.7658604
do lots of still life painting. put a thing on your desk and paint a picture of it.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:24:09 AM No.7658626
>>7658604
But how, anon?
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 12:24:01 PM No.7658652
>>7658626
squint and copy the colors and shapes you see onto your canvas.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 4:23:25 PM No.7658835
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>>7657790
>non sense sword
>slop helmet
>wonky spear head
>sussy green dress
>badly overpainted hand holding random cable
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:47:52 PM No.7659091
>>7657790
I love it. You're GMI.

Remember seeing your drawing in another thread months ago. Can see a lot of progress has been made. And you've still kept and refined that distinct style. Keep up the great work anon :)
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:59:08 PM No.7659110
>>7657707 (OP)
As with perspective — if you can draw a brick, you can draw an entire city because the same principles apply. Similarly, the lighting on a brick is fundamentally the same as the lighting on a skyscraper. Of course, there is the atmosphere and there are different materials, but these are secondary and not very difficult to figure out (objects farther away will have less contrast, less saturation, etc.). Very complex lighting arrangements such as multiple light sources are difficult to invent without resorting to reference of some kind. However, simple one-source lighting is aesthetically the most pleasing and the most revealing of form, which is why it prevails in most of what we consider great art.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:18:36 PM No.7659163
>>7657888
Light source is further away/smaller in the left image and closer/larger on the right. You can see it's reflection in her eyes.
https://youtu.be/4jh9PJByo0M?si=rAxb2j3LefLkLKTy&t=30XV46
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 2:35:43 PM No.7663401
>>7657707 (OP)
you just add it on
>>7657888
multiple lights on the right, less lights on the left. light intensity increase if it is close, shadows become soft if more lights appear
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 3:36:26 PM No.7663476
>>7657707 (OP)
>sketching: 1 hour
>line art: 1 hour
rendering: infinite hours
>it only ends when you give up
fuck this shit
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 3:37:27 PM No.7663478
>>7657707 (OP)
how do you apply portait lightining to anime faces?