And people say talent isn't real. You can't buy these jeans at a department store son.

>jeans
It's called work ethic.

well how long was he drawing for before he made manga

>>7657782 (OP)
What's your end goal here? Are you trying to convince everyone to give up like the pussy you are?

>>7657782 (OP)
Another pajeet demoralization thread mad at asians and trying to spread deterministic caste thinking

>>7657782 (OP)

>>7657782 (OP)
very good, now lets see the quality of the storytelling.... oh

>>7657782 (OP)
Very nice progress for 5 years!

>>7657782 (OP)
>last thinly veiled kgrb hate thread withered on the vine
>immediately make a new one
Stop seething about children's cartoon books holy shit. There are more things to life.

>>7657782 (OP)
Did he start drawing 5 years ago or was he already decent at drawing and he just decided to pursue manga?

>>7657852
Holy based. From Loomis?

>>7657782 (OP)
I can't even comprehend what I am looking at in the big panel

>>7658078
Richard Schmid

>>7657782 (OP)
nice, now show the 20 years of drawing before that, whats the point of this board

>>7657782 (OP)
>This guy started drawing manga during COVID
I came across his one-shots before he started KGB and holy shit he's so bad that even the /beg/ here would mog him, talent must be real.

>>7657852
>"Talent hits a target no one else can hit, Genius hits a target no one else can see" - schoppy
Talent exist, whoever naive person who said that in your pic clearly never saw anyone who are 'failed' in doing art; he only saw like 40 people who made it and said that 'there's no such thing as talent, its all practice, yadda yadaa' and ignore the other 1000 people who are failed in the same field.
People who are using their own success in their art career as a proof or metric that 'talent do not exist' is contradicting their own words because talent do exist and they are the proof of it. Everyone knew about goya, da vinci because they are talented artists who are managed to make a name and immortalized it through their art, why? because they are talented; meanwhile nobody ever heard about their failed peers who are studying the same art as them in the same studio under the same master because those other peers are talent-less and failed to make themselves a name or even have someone preserving their works and immortalize it throughout time

>>7658224
Yeah you probably need to be an outlier to become an immortalized symbol of an artist but to merely "make it", whatever that means for each person, in the modern context isn't nearly as grand of an achievement. Think of it as a bell curve where you have 0.1% of the population that are drooling retards and can truly be considered "untalented", then there's the 99.8% of normies and 0.1% of "talented" outliers. Basically the edge cases are irrelevant and so anyone else is just crabbing themselves by thinking about talent. There are no 1000 failed artists for every 40 successful ones. Not ones that have put in the same amount of work anyway. If we think of talent as the deterministic qualities that lead a person putting in the required amount of work, then we can discuss but the overwhelming majority of people have very similar mental faculties, that's to say that they can learn to the same degree if they just practise

https://mangadex.org/author/15104c19-1608-4939-9d06-2996a0b4aa15/hokazono-takeru
heres his early stuff if anybodys interested, pretty similar to some stuff here,

>>7657831
Pajeets ruin everything. I honestly think they are evil creatures created by demons or aliens. Tasked to destroy humanity.

>>7658224
Fallacy.

You are equating being good at something with talent (meant to be read as innate talent), while the case you're making is that people without this innate talent cannot learn.

You are basically just saying that anybody who made it, is talented by definition, while trying to argue that this talent, supposedly defined by "making it" is a prerequisite for "making it". Circular logic.

>Product design undergrad in art uni
>Won bronze in manga award in 2020
>Deadline was September
>Art was picrel
>Naruto fan (You can't tell)
>Worked nonstop 3y before debut
>Now 5y later, 132 SNS posts

The talent of just drawing instead of whining online about jeans is unreal. Japan wins again.

>>7658749
He actually won silver, fucked up there.

>>7657815
0.5391 seconds

>>7658096
Is this guy famous or something? Everyone on this thread seems to know him.

>>7657782 (OP)
I also started drawing during covid and made very good progress since then. I don't think you guys understand what dedication looks like.

>>7657831
>>7658703
kys white nit

>>7657782 (OP)
covid was 6 years ago, nigga

>>7657782 (OP)
Why is it so easy to tell when a jap relies a little *too* much on 3D poses and assets?

>>7659798
Because the perspective ends up "too perfect" without being stylized, this is with anyone. It's the same reason that rotoscoping is obvious to anyone with a brain and eyes.

>>7657782 (OP)
Covid was 5 years ago.

>>7657782 (OP)
5 years. If you can't reach the same level in 5 years you better find something else to do with your life, forget drawing

>>7657782 (OP)
To be fair, if you can't get good in 5 years that's on you

>>7659712
>>7660136
>>7660159
>>7658891
6 years will not make the average person a professional level mangaka idiots.

>>7660160
>will
no
>can
yes

>>7660160
it will make the average person who studies drawing full time professional level, retard
drawing for a couple of hours when the mood suits you won't make a pro ever

>>7660160
5 years, and I'd venture to say I'm getting to a level where I can apply for smaller roles at companies. If I actually allowed myself to use things like 3d models for poses and the such and I wasn't such an elitist purist I might be a lot further along now. 5 years is plenty of time for the average person to get close to high int/adv if they study well and that's around the level you need to be at to start being considered for job offers.

>>7660160
Six years crying about talent certainly won't.

>>7658096
>>7658643
Bullshit /beg/s here are way worse

>>7658088
He's 24 years old