is taking commissions for lewd/porn still the only profitable option for average drawfags in 2025?

>>7676104 (OP)
In the United States? fuck no lol. You have to get a real job.

In Latin Ameria/ South East Asia? Yes. You can live like a king off commission money.

rembrandt was struggling to get commissions in his lifetime and artfags think they're entitled to make a living drawing sonic the hedgehog's asshole

>>7676104 (OP)
ai will probably replace porn and fetish artists first.

>>7676484
Not probably, it will.

Fan artists are going to be hit the hardest by AI.

>>7676484
it didn't yet so far what's taking so long

>>7676498
This.
This doomerism is going nowhere, Ive seen what AI is capable of and it mogs 90% of this board, so why hasnt it replaced everyone yet?

>>7676480

What? No he didn't, Rembrandt was an absolute celebrity and he got so much work he had assistents/pupils who would do some of it for him. He did die bankrupt but that was because he made shitty choices concerning his money, not because no one bought his paintings. You're probably confusing him with Vincent van Gogh, who was indeed a talentless schizo who only became famous after his death because he was much a 'tragic' starving artist, not by merit of his work .

>>7676511

*much = such

Goddamn phone

Nobody will comm you to draw nsfw art unless you are already drawing that kind of stuff on your own.

>>7676510
Because AI is still viewed as Slop by the large majorly. Give it a couple of years and those AI sloppers are going to be the big earners from the future

>>7676726
Nah, people who ask for comms are people who don't want AI. I've even been asked to fix some AI image in my commission because the guy wanted it to be more natural

>>7676734
Not sure if you are even going to post what he asked you to fix but... Not sure, I don't really think we are talking about comms really, but I have seen an increase in people who are subscribed to AI slop patreons and the sloppers take requests there rather then commissions

>>7676484
>ai will probably replace porn and fetish artists first.
NSFW AI art been a thing for 3+ years and so far it didn't do jackshit to replace those disgusting pigs, just look at picrel's growth.

>>7676821
Who is that?

>>7676475
If thats actually true then just change ur ip to brazil or some shit and use a processor that exchanges to USD

>>7676844
IlluXXXtrandy, a nsfw 2d animator that started her art career in the same year that AI art blew up.
>https://www.patreon.com/illuxxxtrandy
>https://x.com/illuxxxtrandy
I hate NSFW artists but I don't buy it that AI art will replace them, I wish, but that won't happen.

>>7676941
That's not how that works.
Cost of living in Brazil is vastly different from cost of living in the United States.

If youre relying on commissions as your primary source of income and you make less than 800$ a month, you are going to be homeless. Meanwhile that kind of money will make you rich in most third world countries.

Its the number 1 reason why Latinx artists dominate the NSFW art scene.

>>7676104 (OP)
Never has been, unless you are from a third world.

>>7676954
This must be why most furfaggots seem to be russian.
Now I have to find the reason of why they are so talented.

>>7676104 (OP)
No, your art just has to have a purpose to be commercially viable, lewd art has an easily identifiable function so the majority of people can appraise it as entertainment and find it valuable.

>>7676957
>most furfaggots seem to be russian.
What?

>>7676104 (OP)
What the fuck are you talking about? That is and always was one of the worst options. Very few people make decent money doing that. If you want to make money, GET A FUCKING JOB. Yes, you can get hired as an artist. You do generally need to be a decent enough artist, so if you're dogshit and will always be dogshit then yeah desperately trying to get porn commissions is your only real option. But it's barely a real option, and it's mindbogglingly retarded to pretend there aren't other ways to make money with art.

>>7676966
It's an hyperbole, but far too many, more than you'd expect, are from russia.

>>7676975
That sure is a fact that I dont know how to interpret.

is it possible to make a living just being a sfw patreon that does cool or cute art or some shit?

>>7676104 (OP)
This was always more of a joke option.
Honestly, if you're unable to come up with any means of making money with your art, are you really all that creative? Are you even passionate about this? Surely you should have run across other methods of making money, or thought of some methods on your own, that aren't drawing smut.

>>7677164
only if thats part of a bigger project like a game or you have 1m+ followers

>>7676975
their cost of living is pretty low so comms are viable & their art academies are pretty cracked
idk about furries but i hear they pay well so

>>7676957
russia has one of the best fine arts academy in the world, students learn how to paint classical style. Then after they graduate they use those skills in digital furry art. That's why there's a lot of painterly furry artworks

>>7676977
No xhe's right most of the furry slop that gets pushed comes from telegram slavoids

>>7677198
Okay then drop some ideas if you're so sure bud

>>7676975
>an hyperbole
esl detected

>>7677209
>1m+ followers
oh god I'm never gonna make it

>>7677164
Even if you don't draw nsfw. Drawing cute girls with big boobs is a 100x multiplier regardless of what you draw.

Is it true what you all say about drawing in the third world? This seems so far fetched

>>7676104 (OP)
vgen but have luck getting a code

>>7677463
argie thirdie here,

I cannot talk for other countries nor other people situations, for example my family needs 1k or 2k to survive but rarely have that money for cover everything with the price rise. since i don't do this full time (family pressure to finish college) i can do up to 200 usd and everything goes to my family.
if you don't have pressure to "make happy" anyone, art can be a good income just be sure to pay for independent worker taxes and you'll be okay. 3 years ago i was paying for medical treatment and saving for finishing paying my pc debt which got 50% covered in 2 months but prices and cost of living really changes in argentina quite fast, sometimes in months.
>tdlr:
If you're Argentinian, you are fucked since the beginning

>>7677346
Yes, I am sure that there are other means of making money from drawing, that aren't drawing smut.
I'll drop the basic bitch ideas from off the top of my head, because I'm not dropping my own unique business ideas for uncreative faggots to take, even if I never do them.
>Signing with an Art Dealer and Selling Traditional Art
>Signing with an Agent
>Regular sfw Commissions
>Print on Demand Physical Merch
>Custom Physical Merch Made Yourself (Screen printed tees or Posters, quickly reproducible sculptures, etc.)
>Digital Merch (3D Assets, Your Working Files for your Illustration, Tutorials, High Quality Collections of Your Artwork, Zines, Comics, etc)
>Video Games (There are options to do as little coding, or none at all, as possible so that you focus on just the art and story)
>Stream yourself making art, and remember to demand your pay pigs pay up
>Get a Fucking Job that involves Drawing
>Don't get a Fucking Job and Freelance
>Selling Your Physical Sketches if they're decent
>Cutting out the Middleman Art Dealers and Selling Your Traditional Work directly to your clientele
>Opening a Patreon (Yes, plenty of sfw artists have and do alright with them)
>If Your government has Art Funding Projects, come up with something they'd be interested in and pitch your idea
>Teaming up with other artists and professions to work on bigger projects (Animations, More complex video games, multimedia experiences)
>Youtube Videos

And if you try to say:
>Heh, X idea is shit and would never wo-
You're trying to advocate for depending on porn commissions as a stable source of income - you're a brain dead faggot if you think any of these ideas are less legitimate or stable than that.
I think the only reason so many people stick to the idea of commissions, whether NSFW or otherwise, is because it's one of the 'easiest' options; you set a price and have people come to you. However, if you're willing to put yourself out there to make money with your art, a lot more opens up for you.

>>7676941
>If thats actually true then just change ur ip to brazil or some shit and use a processor that exchanges to USD
Holy kek my sides

>>7677463
Why is it weird for you? There are huge differences in expenses and currencies around the planet.

>>7676954
$800 a month minus rent and services will have you living on noodles unless you're in a financial hellhole

>>7677529
what do you think Brazil is

>>7676953
why do you hate nsfw artist? shouldn't you be mad at the paypigs? This is like getting mad at women or OF shit instead of the fucking simps for paying it.

>>7677552
>Don't hate the pushers, hate the Addicts
I'm not totally disagreeing with you, but I think the fairer thing is to hate both parties.

>>7677530
I've been to Brazil. You might be able to work it near the frontier if you have a home.

>>7677514
Are you fucking retarded nigga said to use an exchange and reap the dough off of gringos with disposable income.

>>7677520
I seriously doubt that third worlders that can barely afford drawing tablets in the first place get more commissions from first worlders who have got the best art education and tools.

>>7677657
Is this your first day on the internet?

>>7677657
Back when I was a commissioner, I would usually work with thirdies because it was usually half or even less of what others were asking. I could pay a guy on skeb 150 USD for something or get 3 comms from SEA or LATAM for same price.

>>7677653
He's saying to change your IP to brazilian as if the benefits to ripping off gringos isn't being present in a pavelahome where you can spend your USD. Changing your IP means you're still stuck in whatever higher priced country you're in

>>7676726
>those AI sloppers are going to be the big earners from the future
This is already a thing. Shexyo gets a literal full-time job income with an AI art side gig after swapping from tracing Cutesexyrobutts to just straight AI.

Trying to "make it" as an NSFW artist is retarded at this point if you haven't already. Either get an industry job (lol) or get a real corporate job and do art as a hobby after your 9-5 and do some Roblox porn comms for zoomers here and there for some extra money a month.

>>7677498
Ey! Artista argento tambien!
Las cosas son tal como las describis para mi tambien. Con suerte llego a generar U$#300 por mes y con el dolar bajo y los precios subiendo ya no alcanza para mucho mas que pagar las cuentas del mes

do you have an active social media presence? do you post art consistently and have a good amount of followers?
you will have a hard time getting consistent commissions if you don't

>>7677529
Thats only if you have an actual job. Living off commissions is an unreliable form of income for majority of artists.

That 800$ could be 200$ the next month. Then you're fucked. Its not possible in the U.S unless you're like living off welfare or something and just do commissions as supplementary income.

>>7677657
If they can get a car or a normal PC, which are things of everyday life for many, then they can easily afford a screenless drawing tablet.
Paint Tool SAI, popular choice for beginners, doesn't require a powerful PC.

>>7676484
AI is a meme and a slop generator, good if you want to trace over (but not really)
also AI became inbreed because people started to train it on it's own pictures
>>7676821
what statistic site is this?

>>7676104 (OP)
I wonder if it ever was? Maybe a couple of years ago. But as many anons have pointed out here, no. I think it is still the fastest and lowest barrier to entry way to get money for art compared to other methods that typically take a lot more time or have higher skill requirements, but it's not exactly stable. For one, your clients are generally gonna be private consumers, not large companies. So unless their suspiciously rich, you're probably not gonna get paid full professional rates. That being said, I'm not sure if there really is a most profitable option for the average drawfag. If you want art to be profitable, you really would have to put a ton of time and effort into skill building, career building, etc. for it to work. You can't really be average in that case, you'd have to aim for a comparable skill level to most pro artists.

>>7677513
As this anon said, there are many ways you could potentially make profit with art but for many of these methods, you do actually have to put in a lot of work to make these feasible, and even if you do make it, you have to maintain your career. I think that a lot of people want easy paths to monetizing art but if that's the case, you're probably better off doing something else for a career. I don't say this to be discouraging, I just want people to understand that this career path is not as easy as they often think it is, and that it does on some level require some amount of sacrifice.

>>7678010
I don't like display tablets and i use a pirated copy of clip studio paint ex so im good