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Anonymous No.7676104 [Report] >>7676475 >>7676484 >>7676955 >>7676965 >>7676974 >>7677198 >>7677471 >>7678012
is taking commissions for lewd/porn still the only profitable option for average drawfags in 2025?
Anonymous No.7676475 [Report] >>7676941 >>7680208
>>7676104 (OP)
In the United States? fuck no lol. You have to get a real job.

In Latin Ameria/ South East Asia? Yes. You can live like a king off commission money.
Anonymous No.7676480 [Report] >>7676511
rembrandt was struggling to get commissions in his lifetime and artfags think they're entitled to make a living drawing sonic the hedgehog's asshole
Anonymous No.7676484 [Report] >>7676495 >>7676498 >>7676821 >>7678011
>>7676104 (OP)
ai will probably replace porn and fetish artists first.
Anonymous No.7676495 [Report]
>>7676484
Not probably, it will.

Fan artists are going to be hit the hardest by AI.
Anonymous No.7676498 [Report] >>7676510
>>7676484
it didn't yet so far what's taking so long
Anonymous No.7676510 [Report] >>7676726
>>7676498
This.
This doomerism is going nowhere, Ive seen what AI is capable of and it mogs 90% of this board, so why hasnt it replaced everyone yet?
Anonymous No.7676511 [Report] >>7676676
>>7676480

What? No he didn't, Rembrandt was an absolute celebrity and he got so much work he had assistents/pupils who would do some of it for him. He did die bankrupt but that was because he made shitty choices concerning his money, not because no one bought his paintings. You're probably confusing him with Vincent van Gogh, who was indeed a talentless schizo who only became famous after his death because he was much a 'tragic' starving artist, not by merit of his work .
Anonymous No.7676676 [Report]
>>7676511

*much = such

Goddamn phone
Anonymous No.7676706 [Report]
Nobody will comm you to draw nsfw art unless you are already drawing that kind of stuff on your own.
Anonymous No.7676726 [Report] >>7676734 >>7677782
>>7676510
Because AI is still viewed as Slop by the large majorly. Give it a couple of years and those AI sloppers are going to be the big earners from the future
Anonymous No.7676734 [Report] >>7676765
>>7676726
Nah, people who ask for comms are people who don't want AI. I've even been asked to fix some AI image in my commission because the guy wanted it to be more natural
Anonymous No.7676765 [Report]
>>7676734
Not sure if you are even going to post what he asked you to fix but... Not sure, I don't really think we are talking about comms really, but I have seen an increase in people who are subscribed to AI slop patreons and the sloppers take requests there rather then commissions
Anonymous No.7676821 [Report] >>7676844 >>7678011
>>7676484
>ai will probably replace porn and fetish artists first.
NSFW AI art been a thing for 3+ years and so far it didn't do jackshit to replace those disgusting pigs, just look at picrel's growth.
Anonymous No.7676844 [Report] >>7676953
>>7676821
Who is that?
Anonymous No.7676941 [Report] >>7676954 >>7677514 >>7679636 >>7680208 >>7688497
>>7676475
If thats actually true then just change ur ip to brazil or some shit and use a processor that exchanges to USD
Anonymous No.7676953 [Report] >>7677552 >>7688895
>>7676844
IlluXXXtrandy, a nsfw 2d animator that started her art career in the same year that AI art blew up.
>https://www.patreon.com/illuxxxtrandy
>https://x.com/illuxxxtrandy
I hate NSFW artists but I don't buy it that AI art will replace them, I wish, but that won't happen.
Anonymous No.7676954 [Report] >>7676957 >>7677529 >>7685067 >>7688901
>>7676941
That's not how that works.
Cost of living in Brazil is vastly different from cost of living in the United States.

If youre relying on commissions as your primary source of income and you make less than 800$ a month, you are going to be homeless. Meanwhile that kind of money will make you rich in most third world countries.

Its the number 1 reason why Latinx artists dominate the NSFW art scene.
Anonymous No.7676955 [Report]
>>7676104 (OP)
Never has been, unless you are from a third world.
Anonymous No.7676957 [Report] >>7676966 >>7677280
>>7676954
This must be why most furfaggots seem to be russian.
Now I have to find the reason of why they are so talented.
Anonymous No.7676965 [Report]
>>7676104 (OP)
No, your art just has to have a purpose to be commercially viable, lewd art has an easily identifiable function so the majority of people can appraise it as entertainment and find it valuable.
Anonymous No.7676966 [Report] >>7676975
>>7676957
>most furfaggots seem to be russian.
What?
Anonymous No.7676974 [Report]
>>7676104 (OP)
What the fuck are you talking about? That is and always was one of the worst options. Very few people make decent money doing that. If you want to make money, GET A FUCKING JOB. Yes, you can get hired as an artist. You do generally need to be a decent enough artist, so if you're dogshit and will always be dogshit then yeah desperately trying to get porn commissions is your only real option. But it's barely a real option, and it's mindbogglingly retarded to pretend there aren't other ways to make money with art.
Anonymous No.7676975 [Report] >>7676977 >>7677213 >>7677353
>>7676966
It's an hyperbole, but far too many, more than you'd expect, are from russia.
Anonymous No.7676977 [Report] >>7677343
>>7676975
That sure is a fact that I dont know how to interpret.
Anonymous No.7677164 [Report] >>7677209 >>7677459
is it possible to make a living just being a sfw patreon that does cool or cute art or some shit?
Anonymous No.7677198 [Report] >>7677346
>>7676104 (OP)
This was always more of a joke option.
Honestly, if you're unable to come up with any means of making money with your art, are you really all that creative? Are you even passionate about this? Surely you should have run across other methods of making money, or thought of some methods on your own, that aren't drawing smut.
Anonymous No.7677209 [Report] >>7677401
>>7677164
only if thats part of a bigger project like a game or you have 1m+ followers
Anonymous No.7677213 [Report]
>>7676975
their cost of living is pretty low so comms are viable & their art academies are pretty cracked
idk about furries but i hear they pay well so
Anonymous No.7677280 [Report]
>>7676957
russia has one of the best fine arts academy in the world, students learn how to paint classical style. Then after they graduate they use those skills in digital furry art. That's why there's a lot of painterly furry artworks
Anonymous No.7677343 [Report]
>>7676977
No xhe's right most of the furry slop that gets pushed comes from telegram slavoids
Anonymous No.7677346 [Report] >>7677513
>>7677198
Okay then drop some ideas if you're so sure bud
Anonymous No.7677353 [Report]
>>7676975
>an hyperbole
esl detected
Anonymous No.7677401 [Report]
>>7677209
>1m+ followers
oh god I'm never gonna make it
Anonymous No.7677459 [Report]
>>7677164
Even if you don't draw nsfw. Drawing cute girls with big boobs is a 100x multiplier regardless of what you draw.
Anonymous No.7677463 [Report] >>7677498 >>7677520
Is it true what you all say about drawing in the third world? This seems so far fetched
Anonymous No.7677471 [Report]
>>7676104 (OP)
vgen but have luck getting a code
Anonymous No.7677498 [Report] >>7677815
>>7677463
argie thirdie here,

I cannot talk for other countries nor other people situations, for example my family needs 1k or 2k to survive but rarely have that money for cover everything with the price rise. since i don't do this full time (family pressure to finish college) i can do up to 200 usd and everything goes to my family.
if you don't have pressure to "make happy" anyone, art can be a good income just be sure to pay for independent worker taxes and you'll be okay. 3 years ago i was paying for medical treatment and saving for finishing paying my pc debt which got 50% covered in 2 months but prices and cost of living really changes in argentina quite fast, sometimes in months.
>tdlr:
If you're Argentinian, you are fucked since the beginning
Anonymous No.7677513 [Report] >>7678012
>>7677346
Yes, I am sure that there are other means of making money from drawing, that aren't drawing smut.
I'll drop the basic bitch ideas from off the top of my head, because I'm not dropping my own unique business ideas for uncreative faggots to take, even if I never do them.
>Signing with an Art Dealer and Selling Traditional Art
>Signing with an Agent
>Regular sfw Commissions
>Print on Demand Physical Merch
>Custom Physical Merch Made Yourself (Screen printed tees or Posters, quickly reproducible sculptures, etc.)
>Digital Merch (3D Assets, Your Working Files for your Illustration, Tutorials, High Quality Collections of Your Artwork, Zines, Comics, etc)
>Video Games (There are options to do as little coding, or none at all, as possible so that you focus on just the art and story)
>Stream yourself making art, and remember to demand your pay pigs pay up
>Get a Fucking Job that involves Drawing
>Don't get a Fucking Job and Freelance
>Selling Your Physical Sketches if they're decent
>Cutting out the Middleman Art Dealers and Selling Your Traditional Work directly to your clientele
>Opening a Patreon (Yes, plenty of sfw artists have and do alright with them)
>If Your government has Art Funding Projects, come up with something they'd be interested in and pitch your idea
>Teaming up with other artists and professions to work on bigger projects (Animations, More complex video games, multimedia experiences)
>Youtube Videos

And if you try to say:
>Heh, X idea is shit and would never wo-
You're trying to advocate for depending on porn commissions as a stable source of income - you're a brain dead faggot if you think any of these ideas are less legitimate or stable than that.
I think the only reason so many people stick to the idea of commissions, whether NSFW or otherwise, is because it's one of the 'easiest' options; you set a price and have people come to you. However, if you're willing to put yourself out there to make money with your art, a lot more opens up for you.
Anonymous No.7677514 [Report] >>7677653
>>7676941
>If thats actually true then just change ur ip to brazil or some shit and use a processor that exchanges to USD
Holy kek my sides
Anonymous No.7677520 [Report] >>7677657
>>7677463
Why is it weird for you? There are huge differences in expenses and currencies around the planet.
Anonymous No.7677529 [Report] >>7677530 >>7677963
>>7676954
$800 a month minus rent and services will have you living on noodles unless you're in a financial hellhole
Anonymous No.7677530 [Report] >>7677558
>>7677529
what do you think Brazil is
Anonymous No.7677552 [Report] >>7677555
>>7676953
why do you hate nsfw artist? shouldn't you be mad at the paypigs? This is like getting mad at women or OF shit instead of the fucking simps for paying it.
Anonymous No.7677555 [Report]
>>7677552
>Don't hate the pushers, hate the Addicts
I'm not totally disagreeing with you, but I think the fairer thing is to hate both parties.
Anonymous No.7677558 [Report]
>>7677530
I've been to Brazil. You might be able to work it near the frontier if you have a home.
Anonymous No.7677653 [Report] >>7677778
>>7677514
Are you fucking retarded nigga said to use an exchange and reap the dough off of gringos with disposable income.
Anonymous No.7677657 [Report] >>7677745 >>7677765 >>7678010
>>7677520
I seriously doubt that third worlders that can barely afford drawing tablets in the first place get more commissions from first worlders who have got the best art education and tools.
Anonymous No.7677745 [Report]
>>7677657
Is this your first day on the internet?
Anonymous No.7677765 [Report]
>>7677657
Back when I was a commissioner, I would usually work with thirdies because it was usually half or even less of what others were asking. I could pay a guy on skeb 150 USD for something or get 3 comms from SEA or LATAM for same price.
Anonymous No.7677778 [Report]
>>7677653
He's saying to change your IP to brazilian as if the benefits to ripping off gringos isn't being present in a pavelahome where you can spend your USD. Changing your IP means you're still stuck in whatever higher priced country you're in
Anonymous No.7677782 [Report]
>>7676726
>those AI sloppers are going to be the big earners from the future
This is already a thing. Shexyo gets a literal full-time job income with an AI art side gig after swapping from tracing Cutesexyrobutts to just straight AI.

Trying to "make it" as an NSFW artist is retarded at this point if you haven't already. Either get an industry job (lol) or get a real corporate job and do art as a hobby after your 9-5 and do some Roblox porn comms for zoomers here and there for some extra money a month.
Anonymous No.7677815 [Report] >>7679570
>>7677498
Ey! Artista argento tambien!
Las cosas son tal como las describis para mi tambien. Con suerte llego a generar U$#300 por mes y con el dolar bajo y los precios subiendo ya no alcanza para mucho mas que pagar las cuentas del mes
Anonymous No.7677895 [Report]
do you have an active social media presence? do you post art consistently and have a good amount of followers?
you will have a hard time getting consistent commissions if you don't
Anonymous No.7677963 [Report]
>>7677529
Thats only if you have an actual job. Living off commissions is an unreliable form of income for majority of artists.

That 800$ could be 200$ the next month. Then you're fucked. Its not possible in the U.S unless you're like living off welfare or something and just do commissions as supplementary income.
Anonymous No.7678010 [Report] >>7678399
>>7677657
If they can get a car or a normal PC, which are things of everyday life for many, then they can easily afford a screenless drawing tablet.
Paint Tool SAI, popular choice for beginners, doesn't require a powerful PC.
Anonymous No.7678011 [Report]
>>7676484
AI is a meme and a slop generator, good if you want to trace over (but not really)
also AI became inbreed because people started to train it on it's own pictures
>>7676821
what statistic site is this?
Anonymous No.7678012 [Report]
>>7676104 (OP)
I wonder if it ever was? Maybe a couple of years ago. But as many anons have pointed out here, no. I think it is still the fastest and lowest barrier to entry way to get money for art compared to other methods that typically take a lot more time or have higher skill requirements, but it's not exactly stable. For one, your clients are generally gonna be private consumers, not large companies. So unless their suspiciously rich, you're probably not gonna get paid full professional rates. That being said, I'm not sure if there really is a most profitable option for the average drawfag. If you want art to be profitable, you really would have to put a ton of time and effort into skill building, career building, etc. for it to work. You can't really be average in that case, you'd have to aim for a comparable skill level to most pro artists.

>>7677513
As this anon said, there are many ways you could potentially make profit with art but for many of these methods, you do actually have to put in a lot of work to make these feasible, and even if you do make it, you have to maintain your career. I think that a lot of people want easy paths to monetizing art but if that's the case, you're probably better off doing something else for a career. I don't say this to be discouraging, I just want people to understand that this career path is not as easy as they often think it is, and that it does on some level require some amount of sacrifice.
Anonymous No.7678399 [Report]
>>7678010
I don't like display tablets and i use a pirated copy of clip studio paint ex so im good
Anonymous No.7679570 [Report] >>7680154
>>7677815
can i get your blog/handle, bro? wanna know more argie artists. fuerte abrazo por cierto.
Anonymous No.7679636 [Report] >>7679950
>>7676941
Bruh...
Anonymous No.7679950 [Report]
>>7679636
hahahahHAHAHAHA BORN DIFFERENT
Anonymous No.7680154 [Report]
>>7679570
Sure! Lets be mutuals!
You can find us in X in two flavors:

Salty (SFW): Moquedami
or
Spicy (NSFW): Imadeuqom

What's yours?
Anonymous No.7680208 [Report] >>7680663 >>7689352
>>7676475
>>7676941
Its not as good as you think.Argentina is literally one of the most expensive countries in the world.
Anonymous No.7680663 [Report]
>>7680208
If you insist on living in major metropolitan areas or tourism hotspots, you'll find that every country is the most expensive in the world.
Anonymous No.7685067 [Report] >>7685189 >>7688892
>>7676954
>Meanwhile that kind of money will make you rich in most third world countries.
>$800
lol lmao
Anonymous No.7685189 [Report]
>>7685067
Where's the lie?
Anonymous No.7688497 [Report]
>>7676941
>american education
Anonymous No.7688591 [Report] >>7688640 >>7688722
It always makes me lol when thirdies get defensive about their cheap comms or argue that it's just as hard for them to make a living from art as it is for a first worlder. It's almost like they don't grasp that their native currency is cheap on the world stage, and that their relative cost of living is a fraction of what it is in, say, the US or the UK.
Link below should explain to you why us Amerisharts don't consider $50 to be a whole lot of money.
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/
Anonymous No.7688640 [Report] >>7688722 >>7689005
>>7688591
It blows my mind that they don't raise there prices to only be one step behind the first world. You could be stinking rich in your country! Instead, you pussy out and only earn enough, because you don't want to rock the boat.

Regardless, as unimpressed by companies and corporation that cheap out and hire thirdies instead of their fellow countrymen, I'm more unimpressed by the public who hire thirdies instead of their fellow countrymen. I'm sure these people would cry about jobs going off shore, while buying every made off shore because it's cheaper, these weak willed cunts.
Anonymous No.7688722 [Report] >>7688909
>>7688591
>>7688640
Why the fuck are they telling where they're from. why don't they just charge first world prices. Are they stupid or something?
Anonymous No.7688892 [Report]
>>7685067
maybe it's because i have a pretty frugal lifestyle, but $800 a month would be more than enough for me. Kisses and hugs from Argentina
Anonymous No.7688895 [Report]
>>7676953
to be fair, animation is the one thing that AI still has a long way to go to even match in quality.
Anonymous No.7688901 [Report] >>7689005
>>7676954
This. I'm brazilian and if I could make $500 a month it would be enough to move out of my parents house and live comfortably by myself. The only reason I haven't done that yet is because I'm still beg and don't have much time to do comissions.
Anonymous No.7688909 [Report]
>>7688722
I personally don't overcharge because I don't think my drawings are that good, so I rely on making a good deal with many instead of ripping off a few.
Anonymous No.7689005 [Report] >>7689049
>>7688901
I'm a firstworlder middle class live-with-a-parent NEET who does a few comms a month and I spend roughly double that (or more) just on old vidya each month.
>>7688640
There are so many people in SEA/CA/SA out there charging peanuts for commissions that if they brought their prices up, they'd probably drive away a lot of clients. Only borderline eceleb artists with huge followings can get away with $150+/1char commissions, in part because they have such a large potential customer base, and in part because for a lot of people, simply seeing a big follower number and pieces which regularly get 5k+ upvotes encourages them to spend more on that artist's works.
Anonymous No.7689049 [Report]
>>7689005
You spend $1,000/month on video games? How is that even possible? And you don't have a job. Wow.
Anonymous No.7689352 [Report]
>>7680208
>Its not as good as you think.Argentina is literally one of the most expensive countries in the world.
Argie here, argentina is up to 3 TIMES more expensive in USD than most parts of United States
If you wanna know about a modern life cyberdystopia (your future) example just look at Argie pricing
We get worse than third world salaries and Middle-High class Europe prices