how come all countries have different languages but still use the same time system?

>>211680036 (OP)
Some weird countries still don't think that a day has 24 hours, but 2 x 12 hours instead. My watch sometimes unintentionally resets to AM/PM mode.

>>211680104
ok but why does every country use hours? wheres the other timesystems?

We should try to get Trump to make a new prime meridian that runs through the US, that would be funny I think

>>211680220
It's most convenient

>>211680220
Maybe they didn't need time systems? Maybe morning, noon, evening and night were enough for them? I think the first ones that got organized and divided the day into 12 hours were the Romans. English speaking people still use their name for it: hora -> hour. Then with Christian monks who had to pray / hold service at certain hours, the system reached the rest of Europe. It probably only reached the rest of the world with the industrialization (train schedules, work hours) or with colonial powers bringing clocks to Asia, South America, Africa.

So why 12 hours? Factor it, it's 2 x 2 x 3, so it can be evenly divided into 2, 3, 4, or 6.

>>211680036 (OP)
If I had to guess it's because of the West. We got it from the Egyptians and the hours being 60 minutes each from Mesopotamia and likely because of colonialism and the fact that the West is economically so dominant it has just become the international standard. There are still places with their own calendar and time system. Most just knows ours as well.

>>211680416
I rember hearing of workers in Algeria absolutely not being used to working under this time system under the French and it causing issues which made the French think they were all lazy.

>>211680544
It's not just Algeria, it's all of Africa. Men who used to own businesses in Africa, run companies and workshops all complain about this. Their workers are never on time, or on some days they fail to show up completely. They also still believe in magic and won't show up for work if they believe a workshop is cursed. Or when they need to lynch another "witch" in their village. Lastly, you can't trust them with anything of value, or appoint them to foreman, or delegate some important job to them. Once they have a tiny bit of power, they will abuse it and/or steal stuff from the company.

I've heard those are the three key reason real entrepreneurs with Africa experience give when they are asked why the continent doesn't have any real industry and is still so poor, even after 150 years of western technology being introduced there.

>>211680695
Yeah, that very much applied to more than just Algeria. I just mentioned it because I specifically remember hearing that anecdote. It makes sense that's it like that, but it's just difficult to imagine from my perspective.

>>211680480

>There are still places with their own calendar and time system.

Even if they do it's for customary reasons, the Gregorian calendar is what they use to make sense of their own calendar and whatever records they have of it.

Time(24hr, 60min, 60sec) as we know it today is measured by the Gregorian Calendar as well.

Also, iirc every single calendar prior to the Gregorian calendar is either based off seasons or lunar phases.

These all suck because they don't have any drift correction so that each(leap days, leap hours, leap years, etc...) seasons no longer synch with the days and therefore equinoxes no longer land on the same day.

Also, having the Gregorian calendar is one of many immaterial superpowers taken for granted today, the top two being reading and writing.

Even the most backward thirdie shithole today has pen and paper and is essentially heaven on earth compared to the material conditions humanity was born into(fell into from a biblical pov). Humanity's first step out of said material conditions was to understand with standardized certainty the relationship between the sun, earth, and moon.

Humanity's timeline using the Gregorian calendar translates to many thousands of years, but you don't have to go far back to enter a world that was essentially a timeless age of lawless barbarism that escape descriptive comprehension to someone living in 2025 and is seen in a prescriptive way i.e. looking at life back then like a mysterious disney movie therefore the current future we're living in is just the inevitable conclusion aka good guys winning.

>I've heard those are the three key reason real entrepreneurs with Africa experience give when they are asked why the continent doesn't have any real industry and is still so poor, even after 150 years of western technology being introduced there.

If you don't understand the material earth you live on, you do not have the maturity to accept being responsible enough to follow it let alone enforce it.

>>211682092
>Also, iirc every single calendar prior to the Gregorian calendar is either based off seasons or lunar phases.
A number of gold hats has been found in Germany. They are decorated with at first sight random rings and stripes. But if you count them, they will give you a complex but accurate system to convert a lunar calendar into a solar one. The hats are about 3000 to 3500 years old. A solar calender was important for agriculture in Germany. In contrast to the Middle East where you can get 2 or 3 harversts in a year, in Northern Europe you only get 1 and you have to get the time for sowing the seeds just right, within a time frame of just a few days.

>>211680036 (OP)
Idk
Time doesn't exist anyway

>>211680036 (OP)
for mtubos culture o anglo

you got me curious and turned out Korea before modern age used a different time system like picrel. it's called '12시100각법'. In English it'd be something like '12 units 100 subdivisions method.' basically a day was divided in 12 units, a unit was divided in two subunits, and a subunit had 4 major subdivisions and 1 minor subdivisions.
but this system was only used during day, and during night a different system was used which I was too lazy to read what it was. picrel is the time system for day.
and in 1653, the government reformed the daytime system to be 12 units and 96 subdivisions, where a subunit would only have 4 major subdivisions and no minor subdivision. in this reformed system one subdivision equals 15 minutes, and one subunit equals 1 hour.

>>211682984
and this shit is for during night. apparently it needs to be adjusted each season to amend for the difference between day/night length between seasons. I will never understand why Koreans had to use this complicated system instead of simple and convenient 24hour 60minutes system.

>>211680765

>but it's just difficult to imagine from my perspective.

From your perspective.

What was the world like pre/post Gregorian Calendar?

What was the world like pre/post American firearm ownership?

Not to dunk on you specifically, but I learned last year no amount of education can replace intelligence, no amount of intelligence can replace maturity, no amount of maturity can replace acceptance. The aforementioned human attributes by themselves are neutral and an extension of an individual's freewill.

I carry a concealed carry pistol everyday as if it were my wallet or phone.

Outside of America this not only unheard of but outright illegal unless you are part of the government's executive(police, military). Additionally the sale of firearms(especially pistols) is either outright banned to the public or restricted to the point firearms outside of movies or video games are seen as "cool" or weapons that lesser people own/use.

I'm yapping at this point, but to emphasize "perspective".

The Gregorian Calendar is accepted by most of the world because it is seen as a tool, not a fashion.

Most nations that accept the Gregorian Calendar see American firearm ownership as a fashion, not a tool.

Africans not using the Gregorian calendar is to you what American firearm ownership is to me.

It honestly bothered me for a while why something as significant and widely accepted as the Gregorian Calendar can be seen as essential, but American firearm ownership seen as unnecessary, backwards, and an extension of evil.

Firearms in America are a symbol of unspoken agency and prosperity that is without analogue nor a future replacement.

Which is a stark contrast to the unending hordes of past and present people that callously distance themselves from the past while simultaneously believing a better future means one without American(public) firearm ownership.

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>>211685340
yes your ban is lifted

>>211680104
this nigga goes to bed at 22 o'clock

>>211680036 (OP)
One civilization borrows it from the other

>>211680036 (OP)
ethiopians use a different calendar if that counts, it’s 2017 over there

>>211685588
The civilized world does, yes.

i agree time should be reworked to base of 10.
12 months, 7 days, 60 minutes, 24 hours seems illogical.

>>211685782
metric brainrot

>>211685809
we are in a wrong timeline the bad ending.

>>211685782
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>>211685545
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>>211680036 (OP)
In honor of what a new day is counted from midnight if it should be from midday or zenith. Personally, I count the day from midday. I also celebrate New Year in summer instead of winter