Thread 211718764

Be honest. If this had happened to you, would you have been able to move on?

Ye

>>211718764 (OP)
no, i dont understand how do you carry on

>>211718764 (OP)
We already lost Northern Bukovina and Bessarabia so we can relate, magyar bro

>>211718764 (OP)
Imagine the outrage if this happened to modern day India or China
The Internet would become unuseable

No

I'd do actual suicide bombings to contest it

>>211718764 (OP)
KWAB

>>211718764 (OP)
Germany's was worse and they did.

>>211719272
Aryan.

>>211719012
>so we can relate
lol
lmao even

>>211719272
Exactly. Unlike Germans, most ethnic Hungarians still live where they lived.

>>211718764 (OP)
most of the people living in these were not even Hungarian

>>211719272
>Germany's was worse and they did.
they only lost about 25% of their pre-WW2 territory, we lost two thirds.

>>211718764 (OP)
Respectfully, how many of those have treated what they took worse than you would have?

>>211719454
that's true but you could have drawn our borders along ethnic lines. still 3.3 million ethnic hungarians were given to romania, yugoslavia, czekoslovakia etc

>>211719468
Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?

>>211718764 (OP)
>happened to “me”
>bourgois-created nation-states are somehow super important to me, an average people, because the politician on TV says it should be or muh sacred history or something
C’mon man, who cares?

>>211719457
The land they lost was actually German though.

>>211719631
>that flag
your opinion goes in the trash

>>211719580
Reading comprehension fail.
He asked you if Yugoslavia, Romania or Czechoslovakia treated Hungarians worse than Hungarians treated Serbs, Slovaks, Czechs and Romanians when Hungarians were in charge of those regions. And we all know the answer. You'll probably reply stating how diverse and respectful of minorities the empire was. If that was the case then you wouldn't have had peasant revolts all over the place and the Austrians coming to solve Hungarian mismanagement.

>>211719756
>words words words
didn't read

>>211718764 (OP)
We permanently lost over a third of our country and the literal center of the country to Ottomans in Bosnia and most of Syrmia but we don't want those back anymore.
On the bright side we got most of Istria and Southern Baranya (I literally don't know why Baranya)

>>211718764 (OP)
>Be honest. If this had happened to you, would you have been able to move on?

>>211719806
>things that happened 500 years ago
lol what is the cutoff period after which you're not allowed to be butthurt about something?

>>211718764 (OP)
we lost macedonia and we lost aegean access. it is what it is

>>211719866
We also lost Moesia, Macedonia and Dalmatia to Slavs in the late 500s

>>211719968
>we wuz romans n shit

>>211718764 (OP)
no, we would have declared war to Germany

>>211719769
That's the whole issue.

>>211720021
*on

>>211719866
When because of loss of land your country gets a weird shape making it a huge strategic weak point (which was already used against you 30 years ago) with one of the longest external borders in Europe and the former center of your country is filled with people that hate you, want to invade, kill and rule your land even more incompetently that the current government, I think it's fair to be mad how it's happening from what was literally the center of your country even many centuries ago.

>>211720018
He's right doe. The whole Balkans were latinized mutts at one point.

>>211720018
One can say medieval Magyars aren't the same as modern Magyars either, you know.

>>211718764 (OP)
Your country would be like 30% Hungarians if that were actually a thing

>>211720124
not even Italians are larping as Romans, but Romanians are which is hilarious

>>211718764 (OP)
Yeah, it's not over yet. New Caledonia must be independant imo.

>>211720174
>Italians are larping as Romans,
but they are
>Romanians are
I wished, retards here larp as Dacians.

>>211720174
It's about the local Balkan population not Romans from the city of Rome.

>>211720146
>gook opinion
two nukes weren't enough

>>211719457
German Empire -540,857.54 km2
FRG - 248,717 km2

>>211718764 (OP)
LMFAO

>>211720174
Italians do larp as Romans when claiming most of the eastern Adriatic coast because if they didn't that would mean they came to rule it after Slavs.
Also claiming the Dalmatian Romance people to be Italians (or Romanians now) despite them keeping their own identity and states that the Venetians tried to destroy (Ragusa/Dubrovnik)

>>211720324
>Also claiming the Dalmatian Romance people to be Italians (or Romanians now) despite them keeping their own identity
I know coastal Dalmatians were their own thing and neither Italian or Romanian.
Roman pre-Slav Dalmatia was big and had a lot of land further inland in the Dinaric mountains and some of that was inhabited by romance-speaking population that could have been more related to our ancestors.

>>211720478
Not the same situation stupid mongrel.

>>211718764 (OP)
why do incapable men desire land that they cannot govern well

Romanians are genetically Slavicized, culturally Romanized Albanians. Hungarians are culturally Magyarized Slavs.

>>211720761
>Romanians are genetically Slavicized
Wrong.

>>211720525
>Hungary losing 2/3 of its territory is actually based because most of that land was already inhabited by Slovaks, Romanians, Serbs etc
>noooooooooooooo Ukraine losing a few of its oblasts to Russia is wrong even though it's populated by ethnic Russians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>211720807
Some of them are. You're telling me you never met someone named Drăghici, Dragomir, Popov, Nichitovici or any variation ending in ici or schi?

>>211721068
Yes but it's a minority.

imagine being this butthurt

>>211720239
You aren’t even the majority

>>211721068
Back in the 18th century when Serbs ruled the Orthodox churches in Banat and Transylvania they also imposed names having -ović

>>211720761
>tf
>tp
Unless you're some ethnic German descendant, Boy I have some news for you

>>211721101
Nr Nume de familie Familii
1 POPA 21508
2 POPESCU 18808
3 POP 15179
4 RADU 12521
5 IONESCU 11967
6 DUMITRU 9402
7 STOICA 8993
8 STAN 8803
9 GHEORGHE 8547
10 RUSU 7918
11 MUNTEANU 7727
12 MATEI 7663
13 CONSTANTIN 7620
14 SERBAN 7535
15 MARIN 7435
https://www.hartanumeromanesti.eu/rang_numelor_de_familie.php
Can't really say they're a minority when you have Radu, Stan, Stoica and fucking Rusu in the top 10.
Could be that what >>211721214 said may have artificially pumped up the numbers.

>>211721423
I mean genetics.
If you go by name etymology you will find a ton of European countries use majority foreign names.

Germany lost 3/4ths of their land

>>211718764 (OP)
this needs to happen to >us

>>211718764 (OP)
It did and then I realized that large population = shit reputation and I am happy.

>>211721035
>Ethnic Russian
Yeah you're just one of the many cretin of highest order wandering on this website.

>>211720070
one could say that the entirety of hungary is now one huge strategic weakpoint with next to no natural barriers as was the intention of the designers and it's surrounded by people who hate us

>>211720124
>muh genes
Hungary is the direct continuation of the same geopolitcal entity that was formed in 895 by the invading hungarians. Romania is the direct continuation of the buffer states Hungary created in the middle ages, not the Roman empire. Also I'd like to see how genetically similar you are to Julius Caesar LMAO

>>211723689
>surrounded by people who hate us
Isn't it telling that all your neighbours somehow hate you for no particular reason?

>>211723852
There is are plenty of reasons. Greed, inferiority complexes, endless amounts of propaganda created to justify their landgrabs etc.

>>211723897
If you guys are so great why aren't you light years ahead of your neighbours?

>>211723981
What a complete non-sequitur. Never said we were doing great currently.

>>211718764 (OP)
No, I already miss these Kino borders

>>211719502
>you
nigga France barely had anything to do with these borders. They just saw romanians, serbs and czechs already conquered this much land and went "fuck it let them keep it"
This was right after world war 1, absolutely no one wanted to get the country involved in any sort of conflict, especially just to save an ex-central power

>>211724076
So you can barely manage what land you currently have but somehow would do better if you got more land?

>>211722218
This map triggers my autism.

Even Turks don't bitch this much about losing their empire

>>211724233
Why do you even need me for this conversation if all you are going to do is make up strawman arguments I didn't say?
But alright I'll along. The crippled current version of hungary would be ill-prepared to "get more land" at least on the short term and wouldn't benefit from it.
At the same time if Hungary never lost those lands in the first place then yes, we would likely be better off today for a variety of reasons.

>>211724489
Turks sort of established a new border for their homeland after Ataturk, right? I think that explains it.
Also, it's really Armenians that complain more about it, at least the ones I talked to. Which makes sense since a lot of the provinces in Turkey that are majority Kurd now were once Armenian.
I also remember President Wilson wanted to give some of the new Turkish borders to Armenia but that never panned out.

>>211719457
two thirds of territory hungarians didnt even inhabit. same thing when italians seethe about dalmatia, venice only had officials living there, no sane italian would move into that wartorn hellscape.

>>211724527
>we would likely be better off today for a variety of reasons
One of them being a large underclass you could tax and oppress.

>>211724628
Genuinely retarded reply. If all you are interested is regurgitating asinine propaganda then I'm done with you.

>>211724832
Everything you don't agree with is propaganda, yes. Peasant revolts sprang out of thin air because you were treating them so well, right?

>>211723897
>landgrabs
how is people becoming independent from your empire a landgrab