Thread 211752796

Sweden is healing

>>211752796 (OP)
Somali Supremacy

I could walk a few minutes to a "studio" and get a blowie j for €20

>>211752796 (OP)
shariah law when?

>>211752796 (OP)
Purchase only, so hoes still can produce "content" and only simps will get persecution?

>>211752796 (OP)
Based

>>211752945
yes, Sweden is a gynocracy

It really is

Bump

Wow, and I thought we were cucked.

Several Swedish onlyfans creators lately have moved to Norway and Denmark because of this.

>>211752945
>narcotics addiction issue
TAKE OUT SUPPLIERS! THE USERS ARE MENTALLY ILL VICTIMSIN NEED OF REHAB!
>porn addiction issue
YEAH ARREST THE USERS! SUPPLIERS ARE AT LIBERTY TO SPREAD THEIR GOODS THOUGH

>>211754135
Why would the creators move? This law only affects the buyers.

>>211752796 (OP)
do the muslim thing: "marriage" for an hour.

>>211754248
Lol I've never thought about it like that

>>211754577
Onlyfans probably doesn't want to deal with the whole debacle so they just disable accounts from sweden

>>211754248
They can still jack off to porn, it's just forcing them to seek out free porn instead of giving it to some lazy thot.

>>211754248
Ehm actually incel, paying for sexual services is buying rape

>>211754694
How do men live in Sweden?
You seem to me like fully castrated.

>>211754712
It's probably a tranny so you'd be correct

>>211754712
not that guy but we're not living well, send aid

>>211754694
It literally is. Victims shouldn't be punished

>>211754114
Onlyfans is a British company so we can't exactly play moralfag about sexwork anymore, we might as well legalise brothels too

>>211754741
>>211754753
How is actual real daily live?
All the meme feminism aside. In reality I basically never meet a feminist bitch ever.

>>211754712
I am that guy:
Swedish men are mostly emasculated dorks if the are middle class and up. There are many "based" and funny guys all throughout the system but the further up you move, the more dangerous it becomes to voice non-PC opinions

>>211752796 (OP)
This shit is so funny, everything is verboten, you try everything except the obvious thing of telling a whore to close her legs.
Now women can still behave like sluts for a foreign audience but the small simp market in Sweden gets cut off changing nothing except protecting some idiot from wasting his money.

>>211754867
Gets cut off? Since when laws have stopped anyone?
Murder is illegal, too, tet they.keep happening.
Coomers are going to coom

>>211754867
I think it would be good if they banned women from making it too

>>211754807
wake up to islamic call to prayer
put on penis cage
feminist somali gang blows up apartment with a grenade
enjoy vegan lunch
transgender kurdish prostitute blows up your penis with a rocket launcher
go home and sleep in ikea bed

>>211754910
I'm arguing about the point of the law, you are commenting about how it's going to be enforced.
One comment for your reply: majority of people do not know how to bypass region restrictions, including payment tied to region, most people just don't bother setting up VPNs and different payment methods and instead find websites with pirated of content.

>>211754985
Yeah, just ban the website and make it illegal to create porn altogether.
But if porn production is legal, OF should still be legal, both creator and simp moneypig

>prison only for buyers not the sellers
>"based"

>>211755167
People who buy onlyfans shit deserve to be executed

>>211754807
>. In reality I basically never meet a feminist bitch ever
Me neither.
The Sweden portraid on the internet is not the Sweden I live in.
Then I again, I live in a rural-ish town and everyone is still living by 1980's standards.

>>211755245
The Swedes are a tiny market size in comparison to the rest of the planet that buys onlyfans.
There's literally no reason to stop them from buying onlyfans subs except for performative ones.
I couldn't find a more recent one but below should give you an idea why the law is stupid:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1411237/onlyfans-net-revenue-by-region/

What exactly do these lawmakers think the problem they are trying to solve is?

>>211755167
I highly doubt this will lead to prison time, people will just be fined for it. Swedish prisons are already too full.

>>211752945
in Swedish society women can never be wrong or criticized, it's quite hilarious

>>211755327
>What exactly do these lawmakers think the problem they are trying to solve is?

They wanna make Swedish men meet actual real life women instead of "dating" online whores.

>>211752796 (OP)
killing simps is pretty good and all that, but
>you cannot legally buy something that you're legally allowed to sell
how's that make any sense?

>>211755327
Cracking down on simps is always moral

>>211755443
No.

>>211755443
This.

I hope all the onlyfans simps and incels in general will be put down soon. Will make f:m ratio higher and females will be poorer and more desperate.

>>211755424
Isn't this what women always say?
"Bonnie Blue is so strong and brave to sleep with 1000 men and she has the freedom to do anything. But also all the men that participated are disgusting rapists."

What women say literally makes no sense, they shouldn't even be allowed to vote, yet they run Sweden

>>211755570
No cheating. XD.

>>211755443
>>211755533
What is the actual problem they are trying to solve, the justification for this law?
Can you name it?
Is it actually this?>>211755368

>>211755586
>Is it actually this?
Yes.

>>211752796 (OP)
This will ban OF in its current form in Sweden because OF/the CEO will be sentenced for "koppleri". You can already see this in BrB 6 kap. 12 §. BrB regulates criminal law (straffrätt) in Sweden.

This is the previous paragraph (will be law until 2025-07-01):
>12 § Den som främjar eller på ett otillbörligt sätt ekonomiskt utnyttjar att en person har tillfälliga sexuella förbindelser mot ersättning, döms för koppleri till fängelse i högst fyra år.
>...

This is the new paragraph:
>12 § Den som främjar eller på ett otillbörligt sätt ekonomiskt utnyttjar att en person förmås att mot ersättning företa eller tåla sexuella handlingar, på det sätt som avses i 9 eller 11 §, döms för koppleri till fängelse i högst fyra år.
>...

The "förarbete" for this law change is: Prop. 2024/25:124.
https://regeringen.se/rattsliga-dokument/proposition/2025/04/prop.-202425124

And the comments about this paragraph in Prop. 2024/25:124 (page 61) say:
>Utvidgningen av straffansvaret i första och andra styckena innebär att även främjande eller otillbörligt ekonomiskt utnyttjande av annans köp av sexuella handlingar som utförs på distans, dvs. utan någon fysisk kontakt mellan köparen och utföraren, straffbeläggs. Den som t.ex. tillhandahåller eller administrerar en webbplats som underlättar för personer att komma i kontakt med någon som på beställning utför sexuella handlingar mot ersättning kan alltså göra sig skyldig till koppleri, även om de sexuella handlingarna inte utförs fysiskt med köparen utan förevisas denne exempelvis i form av foton eller en film. Koppleribrott kan också begås genom att någon anlitar en annan person för att utföra föreställningar som inkluderar sexuella handlingar på beställning av en tredje part. Sådana föreställningar kan exempelvis utföras digitalt eller på en strippklubb.

So making content for a specific person will be illegal, which is a big part of OF.

>>211755962
Was about to say something similar but I was too lazy to look it up.
Tack tack.

>>211754607
Why? Are you retarded?

here’s a truthnuke: prostitution should be legal and completely encouraged. pornography should be illegal and pornographers should go to prison forever

>>211755962
I hit the character limit. This will be illegal: selling private porn videos (common on OF), strip clubs, and camming. But porn in general will not be illegal.
Produktion eller distribution av pornografi som t.ex. spelas in för distribution till en ospecificerad publik omfattas däremot inte av koppleri-ansvaret eftersom det i de fallen inte finns någon som förmås att mot ersättning företa eller tåla sexuella handlingar med ett sådant huvudsakligt syfte som avses i 11 § (jfr författningskommentaren till 11 §).
(page 61 from Prop. 2024/25:124)

It's also possible that online subscriptions will be banned if the person selling that subscription is just one person and the content creator engages with their audience as a part of that. But this is not clear yet from what I have read. The term "ospecificerad publik" is the key here. We might have to wait for future rättspraxis to clear this up.

>>211755962
I hit the character limit. This will be illegal: selling private porn videos (common on OF), strip clubs, and camming. But porn in general will not be illegal.
>Produktion eller distribution av pornografi som t.ex. spelas in för distribution till en ospecificerad publik omfattas däremot inte av koppleri-ansvaret eftersom det i de fallen inte finns någon som förmås att mot ersättning företa eller tåla sexuella handlingar med ett sådant huvudsakligt syfte som avses i 11 § (jfr författningskommentaren till 11 §).
(page 61 from Prop. 2024/25:124)

It's also possible that online subscriptions will be banned if the person selling that subscription is just one person and the content creator engages with their audience as a part of that subscription. But this is not clear yet from what I have read. The term "ospecificerad publik" is the key here. We might have to wait for future rättspraxis to clear this up.

>>211753079
no one ever questioned the control
authorities always knew exactly who came in

What do I risk if I go to Sweden and I indulge into all manners of illegal sex behaviour with consenting adults?

>>211755962
Sweden YES

>>211756103
I like the idea behind it, but i really dont like the concept of "paying for sex". It's terrible in my opinion, it removes completely all the romantic pursuit and removes the game of seduction. We need to let ourself be guided by our emotions and suffer if necessary, because such is necessary to live beautiful experiences

>>211754712
too autistic for the societal layers that others described, but yeah, I'm forced to be shut-in loner by society itself
my hindrances cannot be overcome, since society refuses to work with them
all I have is a life in a society designed to berate me and make my life miserable at any given point because I happen to be a male

>>211755962
>So making content for a specific person will be illegal, which is a big part of OF.
which is what I never understood
OF to me was always like Patreon and similar
I expect amateur stuff to rival that of professional studios, like we're talking 30-40 mins of sex tape stuff
otherwise what is anyone paying an OF whore for?
>le DMs
fuck right off
zero human rights on either side of that

>>211754248
lol I can't refute this

>>211756285
>I expect amateur stuff to rival that of professional studios, like we're talking 30-40 mins of sex tape stuff
>otherwise what is anyone paying an OF whore for?
I have never used OF and never will, but I guess its about that human connection? Which would now effectively be illegal. OF would have to ban any type of direct communication between the content creator and the customer in Sweden. And all type of 'custom/private videos' would have to be banned. OF would probably comply with this new law if they did that.

>>211755245
tsmt

>>211752796 (OP)
Inshallah

>>211756695
>SLUTA

>>211752796 (OP)
kek what a cuck country

Is this what you voted for?

>>211757399
Sweden is not a real democracy.

>I consent
>I consent
>Government: I don't!

>>211752945
It's legal to be a prostitute here, but illegal for someone to pay that prostitute for sex. Also genital massage is legal to receive for women, but illegal for men. It's just great here lol

seething gooners LMAO

>>211755586
>What is the actual problem they are trying to solve, the justification for this law?
Buying sex from whores is already illegal. Because whores are assumed to be victims forced into it. Now they see that a lot of the traditional sex buying is moving online, so existing laws don't apply. But it the lawmakers' eyes it's essentially the same thing, so the law needs to be updated to cover the online trade as well.

we suffer in sweden

>>211754593
There should be a serious monetary fine on that, like 15kEUR.

>>211755586
Actual none meme reason is that prostitutes are supposed to be able to come forward and report organized crime like pimping and traficking while still being able to work against prostitution as a whole. It's similar logic to the sanctuary city system in the US.
>"We won't be able to work against illegal immigration in its entirety so we decriminalize parts of the system in order to be able to systimatically work against the upper echelon of perps. The actual trafickers and mafia.

>>211754753
You seem to need italian pussy.
Want to meet my gf?

>>211752945
>>211754248
>>211754712
>>211754867
See >>211759045

>>211759045
And both systems don't work it seems

Thirdies really got riled up over OF getting fucked in the ass here, you’re all paypig incel simps aren’t ya? A total ban would been the best outcome

>>211759458
Sweden has very low rates of prostitution

>>211752945
We do the same thing here. Incels can't even pay for sex, it must be completely withheld from them because exploitation o algo

>>211759520
Did you know that in modern times it's cheaper to get a prostitute than a modern woman? Oh wait you go to jail for this, cool story eunuch

>>211757674
one could argue that prostitutes are inducing men to commit crimes lol

>>211754712
I simply said no to sv ho
I married an immigrant that still wants a traditional man

>>211752796 (OP)
Even though this is due to muh feminism and looks at the issue from the wrong perspective, it would still be a good result

>>211754248
Take out both

>>211759776
You joke but that's a thing actually. Lots of foreign prostitutes get thrown out for that very reason, which plays into the hand of actual human traffickers, There's also the whole thing about prostitutes having to pay taxes on money generated from criminal actives meaning the police can kinda take that money and hold as evidence for months, which in turn make prostitutes not declare their income which make them tax criminals etc etc. It's a real shit show honestly. I hang out with a few, and they really hate our laws through and through

Why not just fight exploitation and human trafficking?

Only willing, consenting prostitutes should exist.
Their income is like 20x the one of a minimum wage worker and some people are pretty casual about sex so they can handle it emotionally.
Their job is useful for society as a whole as it removes frustration and it can even help men to go towards an actual relationship with a woman.

Why do they want a society full of neurotic people who can't have sex?
Particularly in the Nordic countries where social isolation and turbo autism are prevalent issues.

>>211752796 (OP)
People who give money to camwhores are the most pathetic people imaginable but locking them up is ridiculous.

>>211760167
>Their job is useful for society as a whole as it removes frustration
We could use a lot more frustrated men