Are you afraid you'll never make any meaningful connections in your entire life?

>>211770488 (OP)
>it is a risk to love!
>what if it doesn't work out?
>ah, but what if it does!
you just gotta risk it, man

>having more and more dreams about me wasting my fucking life
>one time I woke up crying

>>211770617
>what if it does
delusion

>>211770782
some may call it that, some call it a dream, others call it their ambition
you guys are too jaded in the finer details like looks and money, and sure these things are necessary but if they like you, they like you

you can get money, you can get plastic surgery, but you can't buy love

I know I won't and am resigned to that.

>>211770488 (OP)
not really. the worst thing I can imagine is being incapacitated and totally reliant on, and a burden to, someone else. I don't want anyone to come to my funeral. Hell, I don't even want the body to be identified.

>>211770918
>you can't buy love
not like I would take it if it was free

>>211770782
Naw, he's not delusional. (You) are broken inside and projecting it to other anons.

>>211771004
do you have a pet, anon?
if so, do they stick by you? that's love - that's unconditional love

at our most basic, fundamental levels, we're still animals and we too are capable of unconditional love

>>211771093
Wrong

>>211771099
>do you have a pet
no
and if that thing you're describing is love then it only sounds like a bother

>>211770617
Tried, she blocked me. :/

>>211771150
>a bother
some people just don't deserve it is all, and maybe you're one of them

>>211771252
try and try and try again
4 billion women on this planet, at least one of them is your other half

>>211770488 (OP)
I know what this webm is and I'm not opening it lol
Feels too real at my age

>>211771312
>deserve
you're speaking like it's something wortwhile

https://youtu.be/b_bCtOm2J1U?t=34m53s
You niggas haven't heard the best part, HE'S FRENCH
Life is hardcore here, infinite suffering

>>211771312
That... Isn't really how it works. Sounds like a great idea on paper and I'm extremely jealous of people who can just move on, but not everyone is capable of that. I'm stuck and she's making it difficult to moving on with her constant false hope.

>>211770488 (OP)
i couldn't care less

>>211771361
Love passed by me, and I could only get a glimpse of Her
I want more, I NEED more, yet matters personal has made it hard for me to pursue Her

>>211771460
I'm going through a thing too, I was too late and she was taken from me - our situations might not be too dissimilar but as men, we are the rock that keeps it together
take a moment's rest, harden your heart, and try again

>>211771371
I don't want end up like this, I NEED love.

>>211771371
Beautiful kino if you have 3 hours to lose iyc btw, peak /int/ and peak /p/

>>211770488 (OP)
>noooo you MUST entre a relationship with a woman who will constantly shit test and disrespect you while talking to other men on snapchat and instagram behind your back
don't fall for it lads

>>211771371
>>211771767
merci, mon ami
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fC5qucSk18w&pp=ygUOI3JhbWJoYWt0aHVtYW0%3D
English subs if anyone's wondering

>>211771598
>>211771732
illness

>>211771732
love is a meme, most men who are married or have long term gf's are sick of them and their spark is entirely gone. you feel intense 'love' for the first year of the relationship when you're young and constantly having sex and then the woman slowly breaks you down till you become a soulless husk.

if anything you should idealize the coomers who go from short fling to short fling and get to experience that initial passion (i.e. love) many times.

>>211770488 (OP)
Whatever man, in 50 years everyone is going to be living on pods and getting goodgoy credits to consoom curated content on their government mandated AR devices.

>>211771845
>>211771957
y'all need Allah fr
i grew up Muslim so I have some semblance of how women are "treated" in the household, left the faith about 10 years ago but some things just stick with you eh?
>the Man is the imam, the leader, the provider of the household
>the Woman is the makmum, the follower, the caretaker of the household
Man is the roof, the concrete, the foundation that keeps his family together and the Woman is the walls, the doors, and the windows, the ones who breathe life into this House

>>211771957
Usually after the honeymoon phase you start to mellow out, but the love that you have for the person doesn't disappear.

No woman will ever love me, at 26 i came to terms with it. It’s not perfect, i feel sad some days, but it’s fine and i am sure the feelings will mute over time.

>>211771093
No, it can happen to others but its a delusion for me.

>>211770488 (OP)
Nope. My autism prevents me from caring.
Had one friend in my teens but I grew tired of it within a year and stopped speaking with him.
I just wanna be home and do what I like.

>>211771845
The humiliation ritual that I'm partaking in. I keep giving a girl attention and validation while she's most likely out there seeing other people.

>>211772382
are you fucking her or just chasing her like a simp?

>>211772328
I have the same feeling. It's not fine, it's depressing.

>>211772269
>he thinks this applies to a western girl raised on social media and popping birth control pills daily from 15 years old
give up your delusions brother

>>211772318
it just becomes a routine and sense of possession which compels you to stay together, especially if your lives are financially and legally bound to each other.

>>211772440
Chasing. Literally been orbiting her since forever, trust me I'm completely aware how pathetic it is. She just managed to give me something that I've been starving for and now I'm having a hard time letting go. Its doesn't help that she continues to dangle false hope which just reignites my obsession.

>>211772526
Maybe, I'm not entirely sure. There's definitely more to it which I'm interested in reading more about.

>>211772449
Some days are worse, others are better. But i still have hobbies, i still enjoy the things i study, i still have enough money to finance the things i need and want.

Love and affection would be nice, and they do feel like a core human experience missing, but it’s not the whole world. Life is nice with or without it.

>>211772483
it's kinda odd, huh?
we share the same sun, you and i, the same moon, we breathe the same air - yet, the circumstances of our lives couldn't be anymore different

>>211772382
>>211772567
you dun goofed
abandon all hope ye who simp

>>211772567
she gave you something, i.e. sex?

if not then you gotta stop immediately. are you that pathetic niggercel who's sending money to some russian whore from yesterday?

>>211772665
the women in my country are beyond fucked but i'd rather be here than your shithole where the women have all been beheading chickens since they were 12 and have no problem with spitting and throwing trash on the streets

>>211772653
Hobbies are a good way to get it out of your mind, but it doesn't suppress the feelings. I'm aware that people can manage without love and live a completely normal life, but the thought of living a life alone with no wife and children is honestly suicide inducing to me. I don't think I could ever appreciate living a life like that.

>>211772790
>beheading chickens since they were 12
...how is this an argument?
that just means they're independant and they actually know how to prep and cook
where were you going with this?

besides, spitting and trash isn't really our thing, mostly the jeets, but getting into racial shit almost always derails the thread so let's not

>>211772929
you're so thirdiefied you can't even comprehend what i'm saying

>>211772665
I know, I knew for a long time, I just refused to accept it. I gotta let it go.
>>211772732
Lmao, no that isn't me and I'll never send money to a woman. You'd have to extremely down bad to do something like that.

I have siblings I care about, my brother in law is very close to me, my niece and nephew too
my parents and remaining grandma too ofc
I have like two friends
the way things are going I'll probably never experience romantic love, guess it is what it is

>>211773035
well then you aren't "partaking in" anything. you're just a self destructive retard who's being used by an evil woman. you're no different than women who answer chad's call at 10pm to come over and drain his balls then never get a dinner date and never get to meet any of his friends.

it's not as dramatic as you're making it out to be, just cut her off and go outdoors and speak to 1 (one) real woman and you will immediately forget your "crush".

>>211773002
yeah, we're back here >>211772665
i'm here, i grew up here
you're there, you grew up there

makes sense we have distinct point-of-views on life
doesn't matter now, its 3.45am in my country and i'm here with you guys for some reason

>>211772901
Well i can either give in to despair or have fun with it. There are things in life i enjoy a lot, i might miss out on affection, but why should that mean i miss out on the rest too?

I think it makes even more sense to just minmax the things i do like now, it’s all i’m getting.

I had a girlfriend a few years ago, she was just using me as an emotional crutch and I felt she just didn't care about me so i stopped talking to her. I have trouble seeing anyone loving me even though my sense of self-esteem is okay.

>>211770488 (OP)
i wouldnt call it being "afraid" anymore

>>211773126
Well I'm not really giving you the entire picture, but also you're not entirely wrong either and quite honestly I agree with pretty much everything you're saying. You're right and I've been carrying around the same feelings for a long time, but unfortunately it kind is a easier said then done situation for me. Even with the humiliation of practically begging for crumbs of affection wasn't enough to dislodge me. But you're right.

>>211773419
well you need to treat this seriously, like a heroin addiction. quit cold turkey and distract yourself. time will heal whatever wounds you feel and you won't think about her at all in 6 months time except as a bad decision you made in the past.

you have to treat it seriously though, simping is on par with drugs or gambling as a path to completely ruin your fucking life.

>>211773488
I know. I've tried many times of going cold, but I keep making the mistake of checking up on her and which plays with my empathy and forces me to go back out of guilt. It's so bizarre, I've never experienced something like this and the fact that I'm aware of what's going on and still falling for it is infuriating. Even talking with other women doesn't do it for me because I want her. I'm quite literally obsessed with this girl.

>>211770617
>you just gotta risk it, man
You have no idea how easily it can ruin your life (speaking from experience).

>>211773709
of course i know lol
i fucked up big time back in high school and that one girl shifted my view towards women ever since
didnt stop me from loving but i'm cautios of whom i love

>>211770488 (OP)
Didn't think incels made it to that age. I sure hope I don't

>>211773695
your story isn't cool or unique, you just sound like a retard and you come across like an edgy teenager. you should probably never post about it again because it's annoying to read.

people literally have real problems worrying about paying rent and medical bills for their children in the hospital.

I feel so awkward reading this thread in bed with my wife sleeping next to me.
You will make it guys.
If i did it , everyone can make it.
Follow your dick and guts.

>>211773870
shared joy is double the joy, shared sorrow is half the sorrow
his feelings are valid, but yeah maybe the way he exhibits his feelings are not

tangible problems are a thing, abstract problems are also a thing - which one takes priority depends on the man, eh?

>>211773870
It's not about sounding "cool" or "unique" you dumb faggot. I'm not oblivious to legitimate suffering in the world, but this is my current situation and minimizing it by comparing it to other problems isn't gonna help.

>>211773954
you're going to look back and cringe so hard when you're a grown up with real problems. i'm frankly embarrassed FOR you.

>>211773931
merci

>>211770488 (OP)
Even under optimal conditions, I struggle to imagine myself ever experiencing love or friendship. There are too many things wrong with me.
I'm just a fat, mentally ill 34 year old man, but I'm not afraid of the things I'm missing out on. I feel extremely detached from the world around me and can't relate to other people most of the time.

This thread makes me sick because I used to think like this until I was about 25.

At that age I began putting up this asshole persona which subsequently made women notice me. I was getting away with physically picking up all of my female coworkers (fireman's carry) and throwing them in the bin, and they were all laughing as they were letting me treat them like shit. They don't want you to love them mate, your idea of love is repulsive to them, and they want you to treat them like shit.
Spare yourself the grief, the sooner you start seeing them as barely-sentient breeding machines that are incapable of love other than for their children, the better.

>>211774160
fuck off chad

>>211774030
I do have real problems and I'm already cringing thinking about it the situation.

>>211774195
Not even a chad, I just opened my eyes. Stop being a delusional moron.

>>211774227
you are the delusional one, if i tried that i would lose my job and be homeless

>>211774160
this is a trvke but then you realize that you have to maintain that facade in perpetuity in order to keep a relationship going well and then you hate women even more than when you were an incel.

>>211774160
>asshole persona
thats the thing isn't it?
it fucking works

the things I talk about ITT mostly applies to like, 2nd base or 3rd base but early on - you WANT them to notice you and the way to do that is just... go rough

I read an anecdote once on why girls are big into serial killers, something about our primal insticts
>a man who is willing to kill is willing to protect
and thats what they see at first, you who is willing to get rough is willing to rough up others

>>211770488 (OP)
Used to be, but more and more i am accepting the fact that life is, for the most part, just lucky. So if it happens, good; if not, it's not my fault.

>>211770488 (OP)
i have accepted my fate. i'll become a hermit by the time my parents, aunts and uncles pass away, that is assuming i even live long enough for that to happen

What makes a connection meaningful

Used to be, but more and more i am accepting the fact that life is, for the most part, just luck. So if it happens, good; if not, it's not my fault. Life is suffering, anyway, so whatever.

>>211774256
>>211774334
>that you have to maintain that facade in perpetuity
I don't have to maintain anything anymore, I just do it for real now. But at the same time I'm not out there to get anything, I realised it's all fake social animal bullshit, no different from what monkeys do. I kinda just focus on my projects and save for a few people I don't interact much with others anymore, can't be bothered with people's bullshit.

>>211774251
Nah you have no idea what you're talking about.
>I would lose my job
You'd lose your CURRENT job where you didn't impose yourself as an asshole from day 1, yeah.
Thoughever my past self that was living in fear and romantic delusions would've said the exact same thing.
>oh no no no I can't do that society is going to punish me!!!!

>>211774652
>I just do it for real now
haha i'm not one to judge but you've sold yourself is all - though "sold" may not be the right word, more like shedding your skin eh?
it's good that you recognized you had it in you all along, just needed a lil something to fully shed and show the world your true self
>I realised it's all fake social animal bullshit
thats what the Americanon meant, it was all a facade and you've realized it too so it bores you - and at one point you must've realized how tiring it was because deep down this isn't who you really are

but anything to get the job done, eh?
you want pussy? you got pussy - case closed

>>211775015
Yeah I got pussy, but all that brought was a new set of problems and the realisation that this world is nothing short of demonic.
The fact that men are inherently driven by this unreciprocated and obsessive idea of love is cruel, and you don't realise how cruel it is until you see some poor sod being driven by it, and then you remember you were in his shoes. Makes you wonder if we're in hell already, maybe the gnostics were right.

>>211773931
>You will make it guys.
No, some of us won't. Its not how the world works. You need some guys to just disappear into the meat grinder of life so guys like you can lie next to your wife and live normal lives. Be thankful for what you have and are, don't go spouting inane advice to people you don't know.

>>211775509
well, what's done is done
>and then you remember you were in his shoes
the world turns, and so on and so forth

some folks will heed words alone and thread lightly, some folks need to experience it themselves - whichever way, someone's getting fucked

>>211775509
this nigga fucked a couple fat slags at his shite job and now he thinks he's ernest hemmingway or something kek

>>211775756
I pulled slags I had no business being with desu, never bummed a fat bitch

>>211770488 (OP)
Not really, I'm ok with being alone. I did contemplate death while I was younger, and I'm fine with the idea of dying alone.

>>211775784
>you wouldn't believe the bird i shagged last noite m8, absolutely had no business being with a girl so bloody fit

>>211770488 (OP)
no

I've already made many meaningful connections in my life, so I don't worry about that. If you're asking about romance specifically, I think I'll probably be single for the rest of my life, simply because I don't have some strong desire for a romantic relationship .

>>211770488 (OP)
no

>>211770488 (OP)
No. Im a genuine schizoid. I would have been better without forced attempts by others to make me have connections.

>>211770488 (OP)
For whatever reason after reaching 30 I just stopped caring, too much else to worry about now.
Not in the sense that I'm fine with it, but that it's a lot less painful than it used to be.

>>211782292
I felt the same after hitting wizardhood, but now that I'm approaching 40 I'm increasingly crushed by the realization that I've irreparably fucked up my life and doomed myself to wither and decay without a single person who will even care when I die.

I've made a meaningful connection to my favourite authors

>>211770746
It's a dreadful idea isn't it?

>>211782371
I guess I'm less bothered because I don't honestly feel like it was my fault, most of it was out of my control.

>>211771845
Internet melted your brain

Your only really chance to find love is in highschool after that all women become evil whores (some already are)

>>211782292
>>211782371
I'm 25, so a bit younger but at a certain point you realize some people just aren't built to attract others. I can make myself look decent with hard work and exercise, but I don't even desire a gf at this point. I'm not sure I'd be comfortable letting someone that close to me. I'm honestly way more worried about my career development being behind. still, any tips for a younger incel?

>>211782505
>but I don't even desire a gf at this point.
You'll when you meet someone that actually makes you whole.
I had one, but then she dissapeared

>>211770488 (OP)
Whats wrong with europeans? you DONT need to fucking dance like a faggot to score a girl or a single kiss, you just need to orbite her nonstop 24/7 till she gives you whatever you want wtf

>>211782554
that's sad, but it must be a nice feeling

>>211770488 (OP)
I don't even know
I made a good friend but she's locked up in the ward right now

>>211782603
She was like a beacon of light in my life

>>211782674
You know how the saying goes, better to have never loved than to have loved and lost.

>>211770488 (OP)
no. My biggest fear in life is helping bad people.
I live in America, so you can see where this comes from

Go outside guys.

>>211783246
Going outside just makes things worse, then you see all the girls in tight pants you can't fuck

>>211783258
Holy shit, shut the fuck up. All you do is whine, whine, whine. Have you consider that you are out of touch with reality?

>>211783309
>Have you consider that you are out of touch with reality?
No, my assessment is basically right

>>211783246
I get stared at for being an autistic freak, better to stay indoors. nothing good has ever happened to me outside the house

>>211774160
Okay first thing I'm gonna do tomorrow when I go to work, after I ignore everyone saying good morning to me like an asshole, is walk over to my coworkers desk, pick her up (fireman's carry, very important) and throw her in the garbage bin. I'll go over to each woman in there one by one and do the same.
Everyone's gonna laugh and clap, and all the women are gonna start throwing themselves at me, I'm so happy I saw this advice today. My life begins tomorrow.

In fact, why should I stop at work? All women want is to be thrown in the garbage bin. All the women in the world are mine now, so long as I have a trusty garbage bin in walking distance.

I've made meaningful connections in my life before, I know what it's like to love and be loved but after several disappointments I think I'll never be able to trust anyone again.

>>211774160
>was getting away with physically picking up all of my female coworkers (fireman's carry) and throwing them in the bin, and they were all laughing as they were letting me treat them like shit

>>211770488 (OP)
I'm 30 so I already gave up

>>211770488 (OP)
I wasn't even close to my family, just always stayed separate from them. haven't really talked to anyone in years, havnt stepped outside in weeks. I think I may be autistic or something but I don't kmow, I don't think I've been truly close to a single human being beyond acquaintance level in my entire life. I haven't been touched since childhood by another person.
I don't enjoy it but I guess it's just who I've been since day one.

>>211782709
Sometimes I believe in that too

>>211770488 (OP)

No, not at all. I've written an imaginary obituary for myself, which assumes that certain things have occurred. Here it is.

____ _____ ________, formerly of ______, has died. His ashes were scattered at ________ Cemetery.

He was born in __ ______ on _____ __, 19__, to ________ and ____. He enjoyed a happy childhood in ______, where he lived with his parents. In 20__ he began attending _______ University, in __. ____. In 20__ and 20__ he took time off from the university, due to poor academic performance. In the fall of 20__ he returned to _______ and, for the second and final time, was named to the Dean's list for his work during that semester. In 20__ he completed a bachelor's degree in m_________, with minors in h______ and p_________. He went home, and took work in a factory. In 20__ he was promoted and moved into an apartment where he lived briefly. In 20__ he permamently relocated to __________, where he lived in seclusion until 20__.

He was an only child, never married, and had no children. He was preceded in death by his parents, and is survived by first cousins on his mother's side, their families, and other more distant relatives on his father's side.

>>211775701
Based knower Sven.

>>211772901
>but the thought of living a life alone with no wife and children is honestly suicide inducing to me
Honestly feel the same. Just because I have plenty of friends and hobbies doesn't mean much when I'm going to be missing one of the most important things in life. I've been more depressed about it before and feel it less now but I don't think I should, it is a depressing thing to live your life alone without a family of your own. All the friends in the world and all the things to spend your time on won't change that.

No connection is meaningful

It's weird how people focus on moments like these as an explanation for why they are the way they are and not the thousands of days that they lived without doing anything to meaningfully progress towards experiencing/achieving what they wanted

>>211785848
why are Russians so cynical?

>>211770746
>>211782452
don't worry, it goes away in a few years

only romantic ones. I'm happy with the friendships I forged

>>211770746
Been my life for the past 10 or so years.