Thread 211853790

You've probably heard of Hindi and Tamil but how many of you outside South Asia know that a language called Telugu even exists?

I actually knew that. South east parts of India, right?

I just call it Indian

>>211853790 (OP)
I knew about Telugu, Kannada and Malayalam. I also know they're written in a different script than Hindi, more "round".

Though I think all Indians should speak Hindi because India needs a factor to unite all its citizens, same like Pakistanis have Urdu that is spoken by everyone.

>>211853804
south asian diaspora?

tout le monde le sait

Bengali is the only relevant jeet language
First round of seething on me

>>211853841
>Though I think all Indians should speak Hindi because India needs a factor to unite all its citizens, same like Pakistanis have Urdu that is spoken by everyone.
Not happening. That's like asking the entire Europe to only speak French or German. It has been proven time and time again that Hindi imposition only fractures India's unity.

>>211853790 (OP)
Namaskaram anna gaaru

>>211853865
Funniest sounding language ngl

>>211853876
Dengey yerripuka

>>211853841
india already has a universal language, its english. there is absolutely no need to impose hindi. news is already in english and local news are all in the local languages. hindi has never been a universal language its just the most common language. it's not like pakistan.

>>211853790 (OP)
We have telegu speakers here as well. Also some punjabi speakers. I haven't met any Malaysians who speak hindi.

>>211853841
The more you push for Hindi the more the southies double down

>>211853895
Lanja kodaka

>>211853940
I know gujjus and marathis who've been here since their childhood and still can't speak a word of Telugu. These people deliberately do this shit.

>>211853790 (OP)
Yeah, I knew. I play Paradox games.

>>211853871
>That's like asking the entire Europe to only speak French or German
Europe is not a country and Europeans never claimed to be one nation.
>>211853900
Why would a colonial language from Europe that is associated with long-lasting oppression and genocide should be the main language of India?
> hindi has never been a universal language
but it should be
>>211853940
They should be politely explained why it is important to adopt Hindi. Also they should figure it out themselves if they are practicing Hindus, that Hindi is a direct descendant of Holy Sanskrit, not their whatever vernacular speech

>>211853895
U mean sexy

>>211853790 (OP)
For me it's Urdu.

>>211853841
Urdu is not very widely spoken in Pakistan at all. Most people speak their native tongue (Punjabi or Sindhi mainly) and only use Urdu when they absolutely have to, for example when dealing with bureaucracy. Most native Urdu speakers are the descendants of refugees from India.

>>211854003
>Europe is not a country and Europeans never claimed to be one nation.
Country boundaries are just accidents of history. India is pretty much an alliance of nations and these nations should be allowed preserve their culture and language; denying this reality risks triggering unnecessary conflicts. Hindi is one of the two official languages at the central administrative level and there's just no need to make it a national language.

>>211853954
Ye ooru tambi

>>211854070
>Urdu is not very widely spoken in Pakistan at all.
It is, everyone knows Urdu at least to some degree and most importantly - there is nationwide understanding of the role of this language as a uniting factor for Pakistan so everyone at least tries and wants to learn it. Certainly there is no anti-Urdu sentiment anywhere, unlike anti-Hindi sentiment in India. People obviously do speak their native languages but they know Urdu nonetheless and importance of local languages is much smaller than in India.

Another fact is that Urdu is simply a beautiful, sophisticated language on its own, most vernacular languages cannot express things and concepts in such a refined way you can do it in Urdu, because they lack words for that, which Urdu has (largely from Persian but still)

>>211854082
> and these nations should be allowed preserve their culture and language
Ok, if you want to purposefully weakening your nation then it's your choice.
> and there's just no need to make it a national language.
But there is a clear need for one language for all of India, but this niche is being filled by English, which is rather humiliating to India given the fact that you fought to become free from English oppression for so long.

>>211854003
>that is associated with long-lasting oppression and genocide should be the main language of India?
Brother, English is the international/internet language, the language of the opportunity, research and sciences. Hindi is just the language of Bollywood and Malayalam/Tamil films are better anyway.

>>211854322
>English is the international/internet language
That's what it is to the world but Indians should feel it differently, assuming they have some national pride. Your ancestors were mercilessly beaten and killed by people speaking this language and this tongue was forced upon you, it's not really an organic development. Look at China, they don't need to speak English on a daily basis to become a rapidly developing country participating in the global economy or science.

>>211854144
>which is rather humiliating to India given the fact that you fought to become free from English oppression for so long.
My take is that the Brits oppressed us, not the English language and hating on the language for what the speakers did is pretty retarded. English as a link language(at least for the educated class) is only fair and impartial. Making hindi the national language gives undue advantage to native Hindi speakers from the cow belt. These people already harass us for not speaking their language properly. They'll beat us up if Hindi ever becomes the national language.

>>211854433
>My take is that the Brits oppressed us, not the English language and hating on the language for what the speakers did is pretty retarded
Yet at the same time you accuse northerners of "Hindi oppression"...
>English as a link language(at least for the educated class) is only fair and impartial.
Nah, that would be French or Japanese maybe, English will never be "impartial" in India, with all its historical burden it carries.
>Making hindi the national language gives undue advantage to native Hindi speakers from the cow belt.
There is a great number of native English speakers raised in a solely English-speaking environment in India yet you don't say they are given undue advantage?
>They'll beat us up if Hindi ever becomes the national language.
Nah, also in 2nd generation your children will already speak flawless Hindi without a trace of vernacular accent.

>>211853790 (OP)
I do because I play paradox mappies

>>211854482
>Yet at the same time you accuse northerners of "Hindi oppression"...
Cause they're imposing their language on us from the center? Are the brits still ruling over us and imposing English from the top? No, right.

>There is a great number of native English speakers raised in a solely English-speaking environment in India yet you don't say they are given undue advantage?
They are miniscule. Hindi imposition also helps with the cow belt cultural supremacy.
>Nah, also in 2nd generation your children will already speak flawless Hindi without a trace of vernacular accent.
So local languages with rich cultural and literary history should just disappear?

its all indian to me

>>211854569
>Are the brits still ruling over us and imposing English from the top? No, right.
they are not doing it now because they have already completed this process to the point so they instilled a Stockholm syndrome into your brain
>Hindi imposition also helps with the cow belt cultural supremacy.
Why would English cultural supremacy be any better...in INDIA?
>So local languages with rich cultural and literary history should just disappear?
Will they disappear too if their users keep speaking English?

>>211854675
>they are not doing it now because they have already completed this process to the point so they instilled a Stockholm syndrome into your brain
Nah bro this argument makes no sense. They don't rule over us. It's our choice whether we want to learn English or not and most of us are willing to learn English because of its international status.

>Why would English cultural supremacy be any better...in INDIA?
Brits don't own English anymore. It's just the international language at this point and more associated with American cultural hegemony. Again, you don't understand the difference between choice and imposition. Hindi imposition and the cow belt culture imposition go hand in hand, and the cow belt is the most backward ass region in the world.