Thread 211855964

Is it really full of Russians?
What is their relations with the natives?

Are the Russians there different from the ones in Russia proper? Do they have their own identity?
Is it true every city is no older than 200 years?
Is it as isolated as it looks?

They think they are Americans of Russia or so I heard. Seemingly, most of rusflags on this site come from there for some reason.

>>211855964 (OP)
>What is their relations with the natives?
I always get along well with native people's, had buryat and altaic friends.
>Are the Russians there different from the ones in Russia proper?
We are Siberian, not Russian. We are more individualistic and free minded and cool and all that. That's because our ancestors were free people, who owned their own land here, meanwhile Russians' ancestors were slaves
>Do they have their own identity?
It's forming. Well it was before communists tried to root it out, but now it's forming again.
>Is it true every city is no older than 200 years?
July 7th was Irkutsk day and our city turned 364 years old, which is not much on European scale but still.
>Is it as isolated as it looks?
Wdym?

>>211856061
>>Is it as isolated as it looks?
>Wdym?
Siberia looks completely isolated from the world. I wonder if it actually feels like it culturally, politically and economically

>>211855964 (OP)
I think the vast majority live in scattered towns across the trans siberia train and there may be a couple of mining towns scattered out of the way but that's basically it, the rest is empty.

>>211855964 (OP)
>Is it really full of Russians?
they are a majority though they mostly live in big cities, the rural areas (or even just forests, since many of these people still follow a hunter-gatherer lifestyle) are visibly more "native"
>What is their relations with the natives?
generally good, those who live in big cities are completely assimilated and russified, usually being ashamed of their native roots or at least not paying attention to them
in rural areas they don't interact with Russians too much, they barely care that they live in a country named Russia or are Russian citizens, their main concern is to hunt a reindeer for a dinner
it's kinda similar to natives in Canada or Brazil I guess
>Are the Russians there different from the ones in Russia proper? Do they have their own identity?
no, not really, regionalism is very weak in Russia overall and if anything, it exists mostly across the "traditional" territories of Russia so between north west, center west and south west. Anything east of the Ural is generally a colony only settled after 17th century and these people didn't acquire a separate identity on their own, they're just standard Russians, even more standard than those in Moscow, because there is zero peculiarity and regional flavor in let's say Vladivostok or Blagoveshchensk. Sometimes Uralites larp as if they were a distinct region because they pronounce some words in a different manner but that's almost nothing.

>Is it true every city is no older than 200 years?
as a proper city yes, there might be older settlements here and there but they weren't really cities back then

>Is it as isolated as it looks?
idk what you mean, actually cities in Far East have pretty developed business ties with China, partially also with Japan and Korea. For example in Vladivostok most cars are imported from Japan, with the wheel on the right.

>>211856112
>the rural areas (or even just forests, since many of these people still follow a hunter-gatherer lifestyle) are visibly more "native"
No they aren't
>in rural areas they don't interact with Russians too much, they barely care that they live in a country named Russia or are Russian citizens, their main concern is to hunt a reindeer for a dinner
it's kinda similar to natives in Canada or Brazil I guess
Wtf are you talking about? You describe people like chuckcha who live in the arctic.

>>211856061
>That's because our ancestors were free people, who owned their own land here, meanwhile Russians' ancestors were slaves
Do you have chronic alcoholism society as the rest of russia, or that makes a difference?

>>211855964 (OP)
>What's it like living there
It's shit. Much higher prices with mediocre wages and the worst in the world climate on earth ever.
>Is it really full of Russians?
It's full of churkas nowadays. It didn't use to be like that before, but a lot (a quarter) of Russians fled west plus churkas breed like rats so they infest everything.
>What is their relations with the natives?
I hate them. They're no different from other churkas, dumb and violent. I wish we cleansed them.
>Are the Russians there different from the ones in Russia proper?
No. Actually, the bigger difference is between West Siberia (plus Volga-Ural) where pure Finno-Ugric goblin cannibals live and East Siberia (i.e. the Far East) where more proper Slavs live.
>Do they have their own identity?
>Is it true every city is no older than 200 years?
No. No.
>Is it as isolated as it looks?
Yes it is. Even internal travels are pain in ass. China requires visas from us btw.
>>211856095
It's the same disgusting Russia but with even worse climate and even more depressing.
>>211856102
It's poor and decaying southern cities, sometimes even actually big, and rich but small northern towns. The north vs. south divide is really huge here I deem.

>>211856112
>lemme tell you about your country

>>211856630
I bet it's the cuckposting russian-speaking dude.

>>211856061
>That's because our ancestors were free people, who owned their own land here
Ermak Timofeyevic says privet

>>211856678
Western Siberia is populated by way later settlers from the Urals and the Volga areas who in turn are not really Slavic cossack settlers but the native Finno-Ugric inhabitants of the area. Disgusting Asiatic troglodytes.

>>211855964 (OP)
I've always been fascinated by Siberia.
What are the forests like there? I hear the seasons can be pretty volatile in some parts depending on the landscape. If I didn't love the internet I would make an effort to get out there somewhere and never come out again.

>>211856806
>What are the forests like there?
It's mostly just steppe or semi-steppe in the areas anybody actually lives.
>the seasons can be pretty volatile
Yeah, -40°C in the winter and +40°C in the summer is the norm. Literally the worst climate ever.
>in some parts depending on the landscape
More northern parts have colder summers and more coastal parts also have milder winters. Kamchatka has a tolerable climate, Sakhalin less so but stil somewhat ok.

Basically what people think is Siberia, is actually South America. The highest degree isolation from the outside world, constantly cold climate in the Andes etc. Siberia is shit guys, lust for Peru or something.

>>211856581
>The north vs. south divide is really huge here I deem.
what do you mean, within Siberia?

>>211856461
>No they aren't
yes they are
>You describe people like chuckcha who live in the arctic.
they live in the territory OP marked green so what's your problem?

>>211856630
is there any actual argument behind your post? you didn't deny any of my points

>>211855964 (OP)
What do people do in Siberia? Like, what do people work as, or make?

>>211857064
>within Siberia
Yes, though I guess 'the Extreme North' patch of the country may include the Europeans North as well. It's just more like that the more eastern you go inside it, the smaller and the richer the towns are.
>>211857110
Cuckposting is bad when you do it about Poles. Just stop.

>>211857128
most of them live in big cities so they do regular big city stuff - industry, trade, IT codemonkeying
in more rural areas people either work as farmers (if it's possible to cultivate land there) or woodcutters, miners etc.

>>211857088
People who live such lifestyles are minority of a minority

>>211857171
>Cuckposting is bad when you do it about Poles. Just stop.
afaik we are discussing Siberia here (yes, the Ural IS Siberia, just like everything east of Moscow is Siberia, don't cry here), not Poland

>>211857213
>who live such lifestyles are minority of a minority
that's why I explicitly said that the majority of the inhabitants of this area are Russians and they live in big cities, what do you want from me?

if a Brazilian was asked about Amazon or American about North Dakota he would also mention natives living there, even if in fact they are a minority there and most inhabitants are just regular Brazilians/Americans living in cities

>>211857110
Alright.
>>211856112
>they are a majority though they mostly live in big cities, the rural areas (or even just forests, since many of these people still follow a hunter-gatherer lifestyle) are visibly more "native"
Not entirely true.
>in rural areas they don't interact with Russians too much, they barely care that they live in a country named Russia or are Russian citizens, their main concern is to hunt a reindeer for a dinner
Anon above wrote about your stupidity. There are many different ethnicities.
>no, not really, regionalism is very weak...
There are regionalism everywhere and in Siberia too. Especially how different it can be from place to place, from region to region.
>, because there is zero peculiarity and regional flavor in let's say Vladivostok or Blagoveshchensk.
There is some. And you still chose the Far East. Both Vladivostok and Blagoveshensk started to develop in the second half of the 19th century and more closely related than Vladivostok and Tyumen for example. And there is huge difference between Vladivostok and Tyumen.
>as a proper city yes, there might be older settlements here and there but they weren't really cities back then
Define a proper city. Irkutsk founded in 1661. Yakutsk in 1632. Tobolsk in 1587. There are plenty of cities older than 200 years.

>>211857128
>What do people do in Siberia
Suffer.
>what do people work as
In the north, it's the natural resources-related stuff plus maintenance. In the south, it's generic jobs but in shitty conditions plus sailing in the very east.
>>211857217
Yes the Urals is Siberia, and actually the Volga area belongs to the same racial-cultural cluster of orcs too, but you're a very easy poster to spot and Poland is based so you should stop ragebaiting our Polish brothers.

>>211857245
Not the anon, but read the previous post again.
>minority of a minority
It doesn't say anything about Russians at all. Even rural natives aren't some ancient hunter-gatherers, retard.

>>211857245
Idiot, a real fucking idiot. Do you think people like Altai, Buryat, Tuvan, Evenk and others live like nomad hunter gatherers? Fucking moron, just shut up

>Ilya can't stop whining in the thread
Just move out of the Far East already.

>>211857347
I'm stuck here for 4 more years, then I'll move out of this shithole snow nigger terrorist failed state whatsoever.

>>211857347
Also the rest of Siberia is way more depressing than the northeastern Far East where I come from.

>>211857280
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>>211856250
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>>211857946
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I'm trans by the way

>>211858160
I knew that russissy! Are you a churka too? Have you had sex with a Polish bvll?

>>211856891
>in the areas anybody actually lives
well yes it's more the deep forests I think about
>worst climate ever
I would assume the proximity to the poles is the main reason for this
>kamchatka
I've read about it and seen videos, it seems very beautiful to me.
>>211857050
>cold climate in the Andes
funnily enough I've also wanted to see chile for a long time, I suppose I like isolated places.

>>211858942
>seems very beautiful to me
The prices are abysmal (like $2 for a litre of milk and $2.5 for a dozen of eggs) amd the town sucks though.

>>211859034
I lived in Kamchatka for couple of months (Elizovo, Ust-Bolsherechetsk) and the prices weren't that bad.

>>211859065
They are now. Milk for 150 rubles, eggs for 200 rubles.

>>211859103
Just make more money, or stop consuming then. Stop making up problems out of nowhere.

>>211856060
>most of rusflags on this site come from there for some reason
We are more Western minded because of our origin, and European ziggers lurking gosforum dvach or simply VKparasha.
You are right that we are Americans of Russia.

i am talking to a siberian guy for hours on end about our interests

>>211859103
Changed location to Petropavlovsk-Kamchatskiy. It doesn't look so bad.
In my city it is like 90-120 for C1.

>>211859163
No you're not. Stop thinking that everyone around is like you, Ilya.

>>211859298
Maybe the prices dropped but I honestly don't ever trust all these online markets. You won't found anything for those low prices they state around your house.

>>211859331
It's not me, retard. I hate Siberia, and I just found out that (Western) Siberians, as well as Ural and Volga 'people', are Asiatic apes.

>>211859468
Maybe you hyperbolised it a bit. The eggs had higher prices for some time everywhere. The prices went back to lower not long time ago.

>>211859627
Maybe but I'm sure milk is 150.

Living in Siberia is good

>>211859776
Cope.

>>211859817
About what the copeage must be? Siberia is good.

>>211859929
See >>211856581, >>211856782, >>211856891, >>211857050

>>211860039
None of these points are valid. Bad prices - make more money, cold weather - dress properly, and internals travel is not complicated at all, just hop on a train and go whenever you want

Green and white I dress sable on my chest it’s good to be a SIBERIAN
Keep my head up high for that flag I die
I'm proud to be a SIBERIAN

>>211860094
Lmao what a fucking cope.

>>211860170
Schizophrenic.

>>211860170
Elaborate.

>>211860205
>make more money
People from European Russia can buy way more goods with the same amount of money.
>dress properly
People from European Russia can wear way lighter clothes.
>ust hop on a train
People from European Russia have way faster trains and cheaper flights.

>>211860328
Then go back moscal scum

>>211860381
So no arguments retard? Siberia is objectively a shithole.

Why do so many muscovite sissies hate eastern russia so much??

>>211856581
>It's poor and decaying southern cities, sometimes even actually big, and rich but small northern towns. The north vs. south divide is really huge here I deem.

I've watched a lot of bald and bunkrupt and they all look decrepit and honestly kind of abandoned, like they all moved to Moscow or something, I'm not sure how true that is but it certainly looked that away, and I very rarely if ever saw children. And that was the cities along the main railway which are supposed to be the most thriving and populated.

>>211862318
We don't think about them at all