Thread 211873855

Japanese people forgived Americans for dropping 2 atomic bombs to them but Chinese and Koreans still dislike Japanese people for WW2 crimes. Why?

America doesn't deny nuking Japan like Japan does with their war crimes

>>211873855 (OP)
Chinese do not forgive and forget.
Also, what Japan did to China and Korea was so horrifying and they didn't even apologize properly

>>211873855 (OP)
at this rate it's not even about the trauma, but an excuse to psychological warfare against their neighbor

>inb4 war crime denial

>>211873855 (OP)
America did it for an altruistic reason not out of cruelty

Japan has apologised numerous times
>No it doesn't count unless the emperor personally cuts his own head off
Frankly, it's a grift.

>No it doesn't count unless the emperor personally cuts his own head off

but if this happens it would unironically lead to the greatest outcome.

>>211874673
They don't deny it though, only the extreme nationalists like our resident schizoid do. They've even apologies several times and paid money out, but it was deemed to be 'insincere'.

>>211873855 (OP)
"Japanese people" don't exist any more than any other "we".
And for one Nip-kun that "forgave" Americans for some objectively recorded, but ultimately vaguely and off to the distance crimes that some people did to some others in the past, whether because he's so remote to it all, or because he doesn't care, another Nip-kun doesn't.
Especially if the latter one knows what some Americans did to Japanese women after WW2.
Yet even the latter Nip-kun can be detached, and just be pissed off at some data in a book
Does some Joe in US care about some events here and there? Yes, no, maybe. What matters is the extent of their stakes in things. An opinion of your usual commoner isn't a good example of long-term civilizational choices here.

This sort of population assessment is really basic, it doesn't work, don't bother with it. Judging peoples as any "we" is for monarchs and special situations.

>>211877361
I haven't seen Japan's apology

>>211879603
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements_issued_by_Japan

Japs accepted losing to America

They committed warcrimes all over Asia and are unapologetic about it

Japan didn't forgive America either. gooks never forgive.

>>211880593
Well they didn't lose to them did they

“Taiwan” is just a pretext to wage total war against and invade Japan

east asian disputes are all fake and larp. they want to feel like they have some agency since nothing ever happens there unironically.

>>211881626
Not true when China has a surplus 100 million male population where a lot are unemployed

>>211880593
I'm proud of our gramps were so based that they beheaded 200 Filipin heads just for kek.

>>211881723
nothing ever happens

>>211873855 (OP)
trvkes aren't crimes

>>211874673
Japanese war crimes are exaggerations, or sometimes straight-up lies. Japanese people didn't fall for the post-war guilt brainwashing, because of high IQ, unlike low IQ whites.

>>211873855 (OP)
because WW2 things aren't the essential reason of their grudge against us.
They have historically governed themselves following their religion, especially 天命思想 as one of its facets, which means the leaders of a nation are chosen by the heaven depending on their prominence of virtue in the confucian measurement. (We don't have such nationwide belief here. That's China-Korea specific.)
To justify their regimes, they've historically always been in need to show their citizens (or fabricate in large part) the moral superiority over their prior or surrounding regimes : modern China and Korea must propagandize their citizens that they are better than Japan.
In short, they hate us not because they want to do something with us, but because they need to do so to stabilize their own societies.

>>211881897
>gook: ‘nothing ever happens’
>Iran explodes
>’nothing ever happens’

>>211881958
shut up chang

>>211875579
Yeah, I wonder if Chinese really bayoneted a baby to create a photo of a fictitious massacre. Even today, they are harvesting Uyghur baby organs to sell, not that surprising if they actually did.

>>211881962
I’m not Chinese but it can happen any time when America’s not looking in the next few years. “Taiwan.” China mass producing weapons to send to Iran is just the beginning since there’s nothing to hide at this point

no we dont
we still have the right to nuclear retaliation against the attacker

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>>211881944
>Japanese war crimes are exaggerations
Are they?

>>211882148
No lol

>>211882148
>there were 200 foreign journalists in the city of Nanking
>most of the population already left
>widely distributed "pictorial evidence" is just a movie/tv prop
>Mao never mentioned this """Nanking massacre""" in his whole life

Really makes you think.

>>211882148
dei dinudu nuffinu

>>211882053
I'm sorry what can happen? I zoned out and typed without thinking. let me catch up.

>>211882172
also, they say the number of the victims is 300,000, although the city's population was 200,000 then.

>>211882173
They are the ones committing crimes against Japanese, top 3 foreign criminals here are Vietanm, China, Filipin, and these subhumans think Japanese would ever feel sorry about 90-year-old wartime events, what a joke.

Should I watch 2 Fast 2 Furious again, or should I do something else

all these seething and insecurities from nip flags only prove it was real
no need to get defensive over something fictional

>>211882289
It is Chinese propaganda, just like the holocaust being Soviet propaganda. Anglos and commonwealth went along with it because it demonised the enemies they were fighting.

>>211882247
If I put one Chinese one Korean and one Japanese in front of you csn you tell which is which by their looks?

I bet there will be missiles flying by the end of this year

>>211882334
what makes you think so?

Japs are the same hateful genocidal autists as Germans. Their national culture cultivates sadism, racism, militarism, narcissism and misanthropy, as well as dindu attitude

>>211882378
Unit 731 originated from Soviet propaganda efforts, just like they fabricated the gas chamber story to demonize German scientists. The Soviets used the well-known tactic that forces prisoners into confessing lies. The US actually said it was unfounded propaganda, and no charges were made in the Tokyo trial.

korean complaining is literally all just gibsmedats
>japan makes several apologies
>no not good enough!!
>japan pays a shitload of money to korean gvt
>its a military dictatorship so they spend it on infrastructure instead of giving to the victims
>give more money you never gave the victims anything!!!
>50 years later korean court finds that japanese payment to pak regime "wasnt legitimate" demands second payment
>japan says lol go fuck yourself
>boycot japan reeeeeeeeee
basically the blacks of East Asia

because China and Korea have not nuked the japs yet

takeshi isnt it supposed to be time for work now?????

>>211882378
Germans are repentant, Japs deserved more nukes

NOT THE TIME FOR PAST SHENANIGANS JAPZ
CHINESE THREAT IS IMMINENT

>>211882481
Just imagine chopping off Filipin heads one after another, and machine-gunning the shit out of them to the last breath. Must been so much fun, do the same when the time is right. lol

>>211882376
Israel will want shit to happen over there than their side of the world… smth smth China, “Taiwan”. Tho America has to be greatly weakened first

>>211882378
What does Russian national culture cultivate?

>>211882528
Nuclear bombs

>>211882424
being guk must be hilarious. Claim to hate Japan with every fiber of your being yet your entire country was modeled on Japan's industrial structure and any success your country has had has been from either copying Japan or using the infrastructure or methods of economic organization they left behind after Imperial Japanese rule.

You can visit Seoul. A literal duplicated Tokyo. kek

>>211882481
>I killed your entire family and made gloves out of your grandmother's skin
>Sorry bro, I didn't know that was a bad thing

They "apologized" because Americans forced them to do so, and otherwise they wouldn't be able to sell their cars to other Europeans who would boycott them like they do with Tesla cars today. But they have never paid reparations amd their national culture is still the same (authoritarian, sadistic, narcissistic, self-obsessed, xenophobic, encapsulated). Once Americans pull out their military bases, they will start to kill children in gas chambers again.

>>211877275
>we did it to save lives from an invasion due to stubborn hardlines
Lame overdone talking point, we just didn't want to share the Sinosphere with Stalin and show him we had a weapon that could end the Soviet Union if need be. There was nothing noble or generous about it

>>211882512
east asians are too castrated and weak to do any actual wars. their only game is psychological warfare and political maneuvers.

>>211882625
Fellow Soviet "Allies" raped and brutalized the shit out of the Chinese.

>"According to some Western sources, the Soviets made it a policy to loot and rape civilians in Manchuria. The same Soviet troops from Germany had been sent to Manchuria and looted, killed and raped. In Harbin, the Chinese posted slogans such as "Down with Red Imperialism!" Soviet forces ignored protests from Chinese communist party leaders on their mass rape and loot policy." The most shocking thing is that it was Soviet policy to rape the Chinese even though the Chinese were allies. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

https://books.google.co.jp/books?id=yCDv67C2BzkC&pg=PA82

China will probably make a quick work out of “Taiwan.”

>>211882512
China isnt invading Taiwan unless we do something incredibly stupid. If there's a war with China beyond proxy conflicts it's because we attacked them first

>>211882682
why are you keep double quoting taiwan?

>>211882661
The ones that got raped by the soviets were Japanese collaborators

>>211882651
Saving Japan from Soviet communism is altruistic.

>>211882687
McArthur crossed the Yalu despite their "final warnings." Who knows anymore

I think it is the government's intention.
Japan has an imperial family, but countries without an imperial family have to create a virtual enemy.
If there is a reason why Japan hates Korea and China, it is because Korea and China are anti-Japanese.
In other words, if Korea and China did not have anti-Japanese policies, Japan would have no reason to hate them.
The reason why Taiwan is pro-Japanese is that they have to have an ally in a Western-leaning country in order to confront China.

>>211873855 (OP)
Japanese were forced to accept the unlawful attack on civilians after the war was already won. Because they were occupied by America. It's ironic how the only nation to use nuclear arms. On civilians nevertheless. Wants to police Iran. Hey amercoids. How much wmds has Israel stockpiled?

>>211882880
Just like how americans supported the syngham rhee regime that massacred and imprisoned trade unionists? now in the 2020s SKs get a 12 hour work day? Kim Il sung gave korean people an 8 hour work day in 1946. Should have allowed democracy in SK instead of support the Syngham regime that massacred trade unionists.

>>211881886
now you are just a chud in 4chin

>>211882103
>>211881972
even the nazis helped the chinese escape from japanese brutality, takeshi

you are lucky you are anime and american #1 dog in asia,it allowed you to escape you and your country's million war crimes

>>211883113
>Muh "even Nazis were horrified by Japanese atrocities"

John Rabe was an arms seller stationed in China. He had been there to sell military goods (disguised as Siemens products) to KMT. You can actually see pics of Chinese soldiers wearing German military goods.

Japan ruined Rabe's decades-long business, so he viewed Japanese military advance in a negative light. Low IQ brainlets like you are incapable of thinking why there was a German in Nanking in the first place. His fake reports were snubbed by Hitler anyway.

>>211882481
i remembered watching oppenheimer in MOA when the nukes were invented and used most Pinoys clapped

>>211873855 (OP)
you should ask jews and their 6 gorillions while at it

>>211883151
Pinoys in 1945 clapped when they heard Nagasaki and Hiroshima got bombed, there's a photo of it in UST and UPD.

>>211883151
US bombed the shit out of Manila and killed 10 Filipins to kill 1 Japanese soldier. I know nobody is interested in WW2 Filipin theater, but honestly it's funny af. A lot of anecdotal butchery stories there. US today teaches like "We liberated Filipin from da evil Jap empire!" and these low IQ browns believe it. lol

>>211882247
you massacared millions of asians
you deserve what is happening to your country
90% of hapa white filipinos were killed by jap autism

nobody truly hates japan in korea. it was all bantz.

its east asian style bants. i call it tsundere bantz. and its hate that feels real but actually there is love deep within. don't fret.

>>211883167
of course, those barbarians killed people in schools and hospitals

usa is not a perfect country and did many bad shit, but they were right in nuking japan

>>211883175
>>211883189
Filipin men have no human value. Their lives are worth less than bugs. Dying for US as meat shield is their only job as such worthless subhumans.

>>211883204
at least you admit ur warcrime
99% of nipponese dont

>>211873855 (OP)
They’re cucks

>>211883175
It’s like a fever dream. Just forgive them. We forgive Britain after what they did to Irish

>>211883326
>>211883357
Most Filipinos forgive them, the problem is that 99% of Japanese are in denial of the shit they did.

>>211882172
source?