Thread 211880388

Is it actually true that americans live paycheck to paycheck or is this just a propaganda made by anons on 4chan to dissuade foreigners from moving to America?

I've always had the impression America was a literal paradise where you could actually have a future by working for a few years and start seeing your living conditions improving over time

>>211880388 (OP)
Depends. It's easymode if you do STEM shit. There are some occupations where you can make a good amount of money without a technical degree:
>longhaul truck driver
>oilfield guy

but these have various tradeoffs usually like retarded hours.

Then there's jobs that pay somewhat worse but suck less, e.g.
>mailman
>tradesman

which are somewhat hard to get for bureaucratic reasons (unions, apprenticeships).

Then there's the shit retard wagie jobs, which is most of them
>cashier
>goyslop producer
>grocery bagger

If you work jobs like that, you're living with roommates forever.

>>211880388 (OP)
Median wage after tax is like 2000 a month. A 1 bedroom is like 2500 a month. Of course we live paycheck to paycheck

I’m a business analyst who makes 4k a month after taxes. I’m pretty comfy as a single man

>>211880388 (OP)
I'm pretty poor right now, but it's because I just spent tens of thousands of dollars, I'll be ok in a month

>>211880715
4k a month as a single guy is living with roommates and still struggling. America has fallen

>>211880715
I could have probably did dat, even got my BBA in MIS and everything. But I got lazy and didn't look for any internships and went NEET for a year and forgot how to do everything technical by now, so nobody will hire me for that especially in this job market.

>>211880388 (OP)
They are bitching.
Daily reminder they say "in this economy" when referring to 6% anual inflation.
GOOD TIMES CREATE WEAK MEN O ALGO

>>211880388 (OP)
Ignore everyone else. It's literally a personality thing and for anyone making over $35k it's entirely a choice. Like half of Americans do it no matter how much they make.

>>211880388 (OP)
Yeah I live pay check to pay check.
After taxes and Roth IRA and health insurance I take home $4,600 a month. Live in a busted trailer with no AC for $900 a month, got a shitty Honda Civic 2022 when my credit was still shit because it's new for $500 a month, internet and phone $180 a month, car insurance $280, personal loan $400 a month. Got student loans for $10k that haven't started yet idk how much it'll be once it starts, and $4k cred card debt, got two root canals I'm $369 a month for 6 months.
I hate it.

>>211881188
Kys capitalist boomer pig

>>211881275
I know people that make $30k and own a house they saved up for during high school and know people that that live check to check making near $150k a year in a low cost of living area. I'm not saying rich people shouldn't be taxed more or something. But I am saying like half of people are literally bottomless pits in terms of desires.

>>211880388 (OP)
There is a type of person that finds the "conmen conning conmen" economics of this country attractive. and I honestly believe that all of them should come here and stay here forever.

I will not elaborate on how life is. Since you have the impression that it's a paradise, I implore you to come here and find out yourself.

>>211881027
House prices increase like 25% yoy.

>>211880581
stupid spoiled Americans think that cashier is the only retail job which is why they're okay with billions of border crossings every hour. then they complain to the fucking cashiers that items are out of stock. dumbest wealthy population in the history of the world.

>>211881884
Stfu Jose
You have to go back

>>211880388 (OP)
I have minimal savings. I could live for 2 months without working but that's obviously not long. I plan on going back to uni for a better job.

>>211881901
dumb shitter. grocery stores require full time 48 hour schedules to keep 500,000 shelf spots stocked. Americans think that this is the equivalent of putting frozen burger patties through a broiler.

>>211880623
move to the country side while having an online job
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvLmmbyEfGQ

i live paycheck to paycheck
each month i make $1,100. $620 goes toward my room, $30 toward my internet, $130 toward my electricity, $20 toward my water; $100 toward my cat, which is more than normal; $50 is towards food and litter, but the other $50 is spent on medicine -- he is old and i am attached to him it has so far kept him alive three years past when he was predicted to die. $160 i spend on my medical insurance, and $25 on my dental insurance, and $40 on medicine, and usually some $30 on things like soap and toilet paper. this would leave me at $85 in debt each month were it not for my very kind father, who supplements my income enough to keep me out of debt and pays for unexpected expenses i encounter like doctors' bills. the government of florida gives me $104 per month in food stamps, which can only be spent on food, which i stretch out by cooking everything myself, often entirely from scratch, using the ample spare time i have since i havent been able to get ahold of a full-time job since 2022

America has always violently oscillated between prosperity and despair. Great Depression --> WW2 and post war boom --> 70s --> 80s, 90s --> 00s to today

>>211881912
Frickin got him. How those bullies like a dead parent? Heck yeah!

>>211882252
american prosperity has only ever been for a small class. sitcoms from the 50s were not documentaries. the white picket fence was only ever possible for at most a third of society, supplemented by the rest below them living in slums

>>211880581
Be honest, do you even have a job? Your posts reads exactly what I'd expect a high schooler who's currently picking his major thinks the "real world" is like.
>It's easymode if you do STEM shit.
The STEM well has completely dried up and has been dead for over half a decade now. The memes about Indians exist for a reason. The major companies that were once the most lucrative and largest employers of STEM grads are now almost entirely using work visas and outsourcing everything else. Actual American citizens working STEM jobs are in the minority and shrinking every year.
>There are some occupations where you can make a good amount of money without a technical degree
>longhaul truck driver
>good money
lmao
Also they're hiring Indians to do this now too. Idk if it's as much of a problem in the US yet, but whenever I go up to Canada and stop at a rest station literally every truck driver I see walking out of the semi parking lot is an Indian.

>>211880388 (OP)
>I've always had the impression America was a literal paradise where you could actually have a future by working for a few years and start seeing your living conditions improving over time
Lol most Americans can buy a car after their first paycheck.

It was a good thread while it lasted. The third worlders are here to tell us how good we have it for making $30k a year with no insurance and how that much money would let them live like a king in their shithole for a decade.

>>211880388 (OP)
>I've always had the impression America was a literal paradise where you could actually have a future by working for a few years and start seeing your living conditions improving over time

This is usually true of you are educated or get in the grind (at least for inmigrants)

>>211882215
> Dood move to bumfuck egypt and work at walmart for 30 years
i hope Dem Memphis Boyz continue to make the lives of these people more difficult
>>211882303
when i read
> mailman = pay less but suck less
i couldn't stop laughing

>>211880388 (OP)
>you could actually have a future by working for a few years and start seeing your living conditions improving over time

You can, provided you get a good job and live below your means. The problem is that a lot of people here think that a decent job should allow them to live like a member of the fucking landed gentry or something because TV told them so. Plus, it's insanely easy to get credit cards, car loans etc here, so it's easy to overextend yourself.

>>211882304
no, we can't. where did you get this idea?
perhaps if you used that entire paycheck, alloting nothing at all for, say, food, then you could buy the rusted burned-out husk of a car that you'd be lucky to be able to drive out of the dealer's lot. but, most states mandate that you have car insurance to be allowed to own a car at all, which is never less than $200 a month. yes, in order to even have the option to consider buying a car, we are expected to pay more in a month than a pinoy makes in a year

>>211882304
I'm unironically jealous that you guys can buy 125-250cc bikes for pocket change and ride them year round.

>>211882503
>which is never less than $200 a month
I pay less than half of that for my (paid for) econobox. That being said, car insurance is still way more expensive than it should be, for various reasons.

will brazilians die for russia like americans die for izrael?

>>211882522
this, looking on my local craiglist right now the cheapest motorcycle available is a 1982 50cc honda expresses for $1000. i'd have to save for a year to buy that; a zipperhead would probably have to save for a decade, yet in gooknam he can get a bike for $20

>>211882601
brazilians die only for drugs and sex, their loyalty cannot be bought by crude things like nation-states or ideals