Thread 211939840

Do you agree?

>>211939840 (OP)
But think about the shareholders

>>211939840 (OP)
95% of it is just fear mongering.
However, for purely economic reasons we shouldn't be importing common foods from across the Atlantic ocean.

>>211939840 (OP)
There's nothing wrong with GMOs, hormone implants, additives like Red 40 that are in extremely low dosages in food, chicken washed with chlorinated water. Fear over those is just fear mongering. Ultra-processed foods and processed meats are bad, but its up to the consumer to eat these in moderation.

I would however be concerned about our raw vegetables, we don't do a good enough job making sure there's no salmonella in them, our vegetable safety regulation is more lax than meat safety regulation. Americans get food poisoning from vegetables far more than meat.

>>211940102
Most of the "this additive is poison" articles are shit like "we gave a rodent an extremely high dose that humans would never have and it might have increased the risk of thyroid cancer by 10%".

If you're eating so many skittles that you've had even close to the dose that rats had in the Red 40 thyroid cancer study that gets constantly cited, the bigger concern is the amount of sugar you've consumed.

>>211940102
OK, but literally none of us need chicken. Why don't you sell us more beef?

>>211939840 (OP)
Of course I agree.
US food is full of crap that's not even legal in most countries of the world.

when I was younger I always wondered why american media is full of adults shitting themself. Its a reaccuring thing in TV shows and movies. Then I got on 4Chan and saw literally 1000s of posts of american just shitting themself in public. They also have words like "leaky ass" or "swamp ass" a concept that is unknown outiside of north america. This is not normal. I dont think I even had liquity shits as an adult once. What everthey put in the food over there it cant be good for them.

>>211940278
USA exports beef to Asia.
EU won't take US beef to protect EU beef producers, or because of anti-scientific views on growth hormones. Of course, eggs naturally contain more estrogenic activity than hormone implanted beef in the USA contains.

>>211940327
>US food is full of crap
Specifically what in US food are you afraid of.

>>211940453
I'm not an expert on the subject, so we'll have to trust AI on this one.

>>211940410
>EU beef producers
We don't have any. Except for Ireland, Spain and UK, pretty much nobody has good land for beef. That's why beef in Europe was and still is much more expensive than in the US.
I sometimes buy USDA beef. It's expensive as fuck. Like $40/lbs for prime.

>>211940344
swamp ass is just humidity and sweat, some things were lost in translation or autistic taken literally from you.

>>211940344
this is the average american diet, maybe that explains it, but I'm not a nutrtionist so idk

>>211940102
>>211940247
This is all true, the only actual issue with US food (in this context) is that a lot of it doesn't meet EU/EEA food safety standards.

>>211940663
The does of these ingredients are so low in food that any possible effects are basically negligible.
Just because an additive is banned in one place and legal in another doesn't mean its bad. There are also ingredients banned in USA but legal in EU, such as Ponceau 4R, Amaranth, azorubine.

Most studies regarding additives that make headlines involve giving a rat a large amount of it, larger than any dose a human would ever consume. In reality, food additives just aren't a very big problem, and aren't worthy of all the attention they have received. People just need to eat unhealthy food in moderation rather than being concerned over additives that foods contain a tiny amount of.

>>211940663
I hope you don't drink alcohol or eat any processed meats if you're concerned about these additives being carcinogenic.

>>211940707
Its not really worth it for American beef producers to produce beef that align with the EU standards. Aligning with EU standards is very expensive and it isn't going to be that big of a market for American producers anyways, especially when Asia is much less picky and are much bigger beef importers than EU

>>211940798
i like how he deliberately takes the most disgusting photos possible

>>211940102
>>211940247
>>211940948
>Noooooooo, the tons of artificial colourings, preservatives and hormones that euros do totally fine without are only proven truly dangerous in big doses and the individual effect of each one in isolation without regarding the cocktail effect is so small it can be considered negligible! Euros should start eating them too!
How about just no?

>>211939840 (OP)
I was radicalised against American fast food by those jingles in San Andreas, and those rude cashiers at Cluckin' Bell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgnUShbkfyk

>>211942846
I really don't care if you eat it or not, its just dumb to be scared of it. Removing Red 40 from skittles isn't going to make skittles healthy.

This isn't meant to be an American vs European thing, it seems the majority of Americans, including our health secretary, also have this anti-scientific view.

I've been eating at Mc Donald's in Europe and in the USA and the difference in quality is huge.

American Mc Donald's gave me a head ache and nausea: it's basically dog food.

>>211943400
Rebel against it.

>>211943427
shut up schizo

>>211943271
>It's anti-scientific to be cautious about substances we don't know the full effect off
k

>>211943678
We don't know the 'full effect' of anything.
However we have a pretty good idea of the effect of Red 40 considering there's been lots of studies and been used for over 50 years, it makes food look red and has no impact on humans who consume it.

We do however have solid evidence that certain consumables are carcinogenic that remain legal in both the USA and Europe. This includes sausage, bacon, alcohol, tobacco. For these, we leave it up to the consumer to decide whether or not to eat it.

>>211943901
>has no impact on humans who consume it.
That no studies have been conclusive about it doesn't mean it doesn't have an impact. That would be like saying the lead aqueducts used by the Romans had no impact on the humans that consumed water from them, because no scientific study had proved it.

>>211940102
I've spent about a year in total eating american food in 1-2 month stints and every time I returned to eating European food my stomach health improved. I was eating organic stuff as well so split whatever hairs you like, I've experienced the difference for myself. Your health is yours to gamble with, I want nothing to do with it.

>>211944714
Thank you for contributing your anecdotal evidence. This is very valuable to the food science community.

>>211939840 (OP)
I'm not that worried.
Whatever stuff they'd try to sell us, it would still have to satisfy EU rules.
Initially they might be able to sneak their shit by the inspections but not for long.

>>211944893
Why do you care so much about other people wanting higher food standards?

>>211945543
Happy.

>>211945543
I despise all forms of populism.

>>211939840 (OP)
That's kind of ironic considering how many European grocery stores often have an "American" section.

>>211940798
That's just one meme restaurant in Las Vegas though.

>>211939840 (OP)
Europoors have everything else imported wholesale from America so who gives a shit at this point? Does it really matter that Ngubu has slightly higher-quality canned goods?

>>211940102
in general i agree, most of the reason your food is so unhealthy is the obscene amounts of sugar, fat and salt you add to everything
seriously, your bread is almost inedible. why is it so sweet?

>>211945580
you're really giving it to that Italian today ain't ya?

>>211945698
American bread isn't a singular product.
There's options, some contain contain sugar, some contain no sugar at all. The bread I buy is from the bakery section and is just flour, water, yeast, salt, with no added guar. If some people choose to buy bread with added sugar, that is their choice, its not the governments job to prevent that. The government can't limit the amount of sugar in bread.

>>211945698
Why would you buy bread when it’s so easy to fry corn mush
Yurostooges SMDH

>>211945791
> The bread I buy is from the bakery section
https://youtu.be/tSkz4vATkQE

>>211945679
it's so fucking over for us

>>211946432
We believe in you.

>>211945791
idk man i was just on holiday and i wanted some bread, tried to pick the most generic normal kind and it tasted like shit
i wasn't talking about the government, just that the palate of your country is clearly much more sugary

>>211946505
This is not mine.

>>211939840 (OP)
They just banned all Jolly Ranchers products in the UK because they have mineral oil in them for some reason

https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/lifestyle/jolly-rancher-sweets-cancer-b2768728.html

Instead of removing the product they just decided to leave the UK market

>>211947251
Can the UK ban brown grooming gangs or is its power only as far as candy ?