Thread 212010511

Did you know Mississippi has a inflated gdp because of mining and farming industries but the average citizen has the living standards of people on par in slums in Rio and Sao Paulo

>>212010511 (OP)
Inflated GDP means offshore havens like Ireland. Farming etc are actual industries.

>>212010511 (OP)
America is rich but our public sector is somewhat neglected due to reduced state capacity which makes it feel poorer than it really is.

>>212010591
We could easily mog Europe but sadly everything goes to Israel

>>212010511 (OP)
It might be poorer strictly economically speaking but being rich/poor on average and quality of life are not the same. Embarrassing that this simple lesson every 6 year old intuitively understands seems to be a multi-year them to discuss to death again and again for millions of people who don't consider themselves to be absolute sheeple.

>>212010629
Yes America has more natural resources than Europe but the population is completely retarded, that's also nothing new.

>>212010629
Well no, everything goes into over-complex processes, legal fees, consultancies

>>212010699
That's unlike European countries of course, where none of this exists.

>>212010651
Sadly the average American believes gdp means everyone is good but sadly most Americans live worse off than the European lower classes

>>212010511 (OP)
>The average annual salary in Mississippi is $47,570
That is probably higher than the place on that pic desu

>>212010733
Well in European countries shit is well run you don't have late trains or slow service or have schizos in train stations

>>212010746
Yeah but Europeans don't understand that they are broke because you don't have to worry about much or spend much in Europe

>>212010768
>well run
>you don’t have late trains
>you don’t have slow service
>you don’t have schizos in train stations

>>212010746
the average salary in Bordeaux is around 43k Euro so about the same

>>212010810
Lol that place is probably a lot more expensive than Europe
Sorry but if you cant make it in the US you ngmi

>>212010816
Well you see you get trains every 5 to 10 minutes here it's 10 to 20

>>212010733
In this case- yes.

The OP seems to be about mass transit, one of the main issues USA has with building it is a lack of in house crews

>>212010511 (OP)
GDP is amount of factories, wages are not even taken into consideration.

>>212010863
I recently traveled from Frankfurt to Marburg and the fucking train got canceled, so I had to wait an hour for another one. Do you want more examples? I’ve got plenty. DB is the butt of jokes these days IN GERMANY.

>>212010828
Yeah but taxes are so much higher in France. That is probably around 30k EUR net which is like 2500 euro a month

>>212010951
Well I am in Chicago

imagine not living in Paris

>>212010511 (OP)
Here's the webm

>>212010511 (OP)
>wah waah we suffer, we are actually super le poor
Shut the fuck up retard. This map is MEDIAN income. Your country is one of the most prosperous on earth

>>212011004
So? Just because the L is shit doesn’t mean our public transport isn’t.

>>212010977
You came into this thread arguing against the point that GDP is an insufficient measure of quality of life. This implies you believe that it is. Argue with this then.

>>212011062
Still Germany mogs America with trains I dare you to spend time in Chicago or Boston.

>>212011072
I never talked about GDP. All I said is that people in Mississippi make more money.

>>212011051
*economically

>>212011097
It’s like arguing who’s the tallest midget. Public transportation has gotten noticeably worse here in the last two decades. Go to Switzerland and Germany and compare. We’re thirdies compared to them.

>>212010977
It's not just about taxes retard. In the US we also have to pay for a car which includes gas and insurance and healthcare is separate from taxes. Cost of rent is also higher.

>>212011198
I only drive once a week.

>>212010511 (OP)
American conservatives don't have pride in their cities looking good and being great to live in. Paved roads, extra lanes for bikes, lite rail, etc means that taxpayer money isn't going to Israel which they really don't like.

>>212011295
Most people drive every day.

>>212011198
It is like talking to an AI chatbot trained on Reddit comments. A lot of people in Europe have a car too and fuel costs twice as much here. Healthcare, etc. it is all comes down to individuals. There is private healthcare in Europe too and there is also healthcare tourism where people go to private healthcare in cheaper countries.

>>212011159
The main difference is how fucking STUFFED the grid is.

If you make buffers of 5 minutes per stop it's easy to catch small delays.

When you have a small grid you have little butterfly effect.

When you have a very complex grid that's planned to the max with no buffers every minor delay in the morning causes huge delays in the end of the day.

All you had to do to get Germany from the current 90% trains on time to Switzerland's 95% would be scheduling less trains, so they have more buffers.

>>212011377
Perhaps people should demand to live somewhere more walkable rather than living in a suburb where they drive 20 miles a day then crying about the gas prices.

>>212010511 (OP)
eu citizenship is literally the greatest thing ever
you can live and work in nordic countries, in the baltics. go on an extended holiday to budapest, sofia or amsterdam.
sucks that I almost instantly lost that right since I got uk citizenship a year before brexit

>>212010816
>>212010768
Well, at least you guys have a sort cohesive national railway system

>>212011391
Properly distributing rail lines also helps. I don’t know any other country where ICE trains have to share traffic with RB trains.

>>212010511 (OP)
Nobody who lives in a small city apartment is rich. Nobody who has upstairs neighbours is rich. Nobody who takes public transportation is rich. Nobody who has to cross with migrants and lumpens on the daily is rich. Nobody who has no real SPACE for himself is rich.

Mississipians can be poor economically, but if they live in a house with a massive garden even if delerict, with massive space for themselves, with neighbours far away, they are already wealthier than someone who lives in an centric apartment in Paris.

>>212010511 (OP)
What’s with American liberals and obsessing over Europe? These yoyos hate whites yet love anything made by them.

>>212010511 (OP)
>2008, GDP of the best of Europe on-par with California and other wealthy states
>Well of course zis is to be expected
>2025, GDP of the best of Europe on-par with the poorest of America
>Umm actually... you see... uh... HEALTHCARE or something

>>212011652
>2008, GDP of the best of Europe on-par with California and other wealthy states
This is a myth. USA was wealthier even back then

>>212011433
I agree

>>212010629
mindbroken
Aid to Israel is literally less than 0.1% of the federal budget
Should be 0, but saying this makes you look retarded

>>212011610
Only higher souls feel trapped in a city, the mass of rats feels at home surrounded by noise and the stenching warmth of other people.

>>212011698
copium overdose

>>212011610
curiously enough huge plots of land an hour's drive from a city are much cheaper than a small apartment in Paris

almost like your understanding of the world is flawed since it doesn't align with facts

>>212011955
Imbecile.

>>212011901
not per capita, just adjusted to cost of living, hours worked, share of working age population

>>212010511 (OP)
>hurr durr muh buildings
the people in that image can't afford a fraction of the goods the average american can purchase on the global market.

>>212011984
great argument

>>212012092
Yes, because you completely missed the point.

>>212012044
and where would you rather live if you couldn't leave city+surroundings for the rest of your life and why?

>>212011461
>in the baltics
why would you want to live here

even estonia, which is like twice as rich as us, is still a shithole compared to westoid countries

>>212012016
per capita is even worse

Europeans are mostly cattle.
They can't afford real houses so they live in 3x3 goyblocks
They can't afford cars so they have to share public transportation with nafris and blacks that treat them like bitches and make fun of them.
Europeans can't afford to live in suburbs so they live in public housing next to nafrs
Europeans can't afford private healthcare so they use the public system flooded with doctors from somalia instead

Europeans are poor, they live in a society covered in makeup where they comoensate their private poverty with public assets with a coat of paint

They can't even afford guns, lol
Europeans are the kind of cucks that you smack in the face and they look down in fear

>>212012128
Your point is living in an apartment bad, living in a ghetto trap house good, even better if it's far away from everything so that there's no infrastructure or work either

>>212012172
rural alabama because even a retarded janitor makes like 4k after tax anywhere in the US, while living outside the major tech/finance hubs is dirt cheap. just buy everything you could ever need off the internet. enjoy your nearly free gasoline and electricity

>>212011619
They hate "whites" when they are surrounded by americans and have to put on their act. Do yourself a favor and look up "the american smile"

>>212012227
since 2000 the population of the current EU countries grew 4.5% and that of the USA 22%

>>212012252
>even a retarded janitor makes like 4k after tax anywhere in the US
They don't
>while living outside the major tech/finance hubs is dirt cheap
Cheap areas in the states are still more expensive than 95% of the world

>>212012244
Yes, Europeans are subhumans, and absolutely arrogant in their destitution, the perfect slave who is happy with owning the bare minimum and thinks he is virtuous for doing so.

>>212012252
so when are you leaving to become a janitor in the USA?

>>212012355
>Cheap areas in the states are still more expensive than 95% of the world
living a modest lifestyle in most of the US is cheaper than living the same in most of the EU, simple as. the vast majority of CoL differences between different countries is in rent/mortgages. if you live in a shack it costs fuck all, your food prices are basically the same as ours and we make 5 times less money. your gas and energy costs are way lower.

>>212011051
>household income
So, it's a map of where people are unable to afford living alone?

>>212012469
I don't earn 5 times less than someone in the USA

>>212012244
sa_slum.jpg

>>212011619
Because they are aware Europe is ultimately a brave new world type slaugtherhouse dystopia where "they own nothing and are happy"
And its humilliating, and they get off from it.
IMF bankers dreams population; lobotomized into docility, serviliy and pumped full of drugs to put a fecade of happiness.
The suicide rates, birth rates, antidepessant consumption and incel density of the "nordic socialist utopias" reveal a different reality

Your average latin slum dweller is happier

>>212012409
if it was possible to immigrate to any westoid country I would do it in a heartbeat. but even the shittiest jobs are insanely competitive and basically require that you already have a living arrangement and someone you know on the other side to get, regardless of where you wanna go.

my current plan is to try to get a construction or factory job in the west after finishing my phd so I can learn the language in one of those countries, then try to get a tradie apprenticeship.

>>212012389
The mix of protestant austerity+socialdemocracy has rotten the European brain and it has reached even southern Europe where people idolize scumbags like Olof Palme like he was a prophet. The European is perfectly happy in small city apartments, with no AC and riding bycicles daily to his meaningless desk job and thinks this is the ideal low-carbon footprint lifestyle everyone should aspire to, and the problem is they legislate so this becomes a reality for everyone else. I fucking hate this garbage continent of literal soijaks.

>>212012580
Don't go to "the west", go to the USA only. Everywhere else is poor.

>>212012546
>ours
>here
I meant literally here. You make 3-4 times more money than we do.

>>212012614
a janitor in sweden makes more than the typical engineer in latvia.

anywhere in the west is fine for me.
>hurr durr we're full
no you're not. you won't even notice me in the sea of jeets, fuck off.

>>212012389
>>212012584
Pues ya sabéis, putos retrasados. A tomar por culo a gordolandia.

>>212012647
This thread is about every European country being an unlivable dystopia though and you said you want to earn 4k net as a janitor in the USA and that's why you would rather be a janitor in rural Alabama than living in a place that is like Bordeaux

>>212010591
>corporate overlords in the us are roch
>but 99% of the population is comprised of poorfags

>>212012469
>if you live in a shack it costs fuck all
No one in their right mind is gonna live in a literal shack in the woods. You couldn't find any jobs besides working at the local shartmart either. Rent here for anything that's not a crackhouse is at least $1k per month at this point.

>>212012707
sweden is still poor as shit compared to america but there are degrees to poverty. you're all rich compared to us

you can go to america and we can go to your country, everyone's happy. america is not possible in a single lifetime for us, but many westoids get in somehow.

>>212010951
German trains suck ass this is nothing new
News for shartistanis: europe is not a country retards

>>212012769
>You couldn't find any jobs besides working at the local shartmart either
massive upgrade in disposable income, quality of life and spending power over what we can get here.

>>212011652
kek this
i just don't understand the insane denial

>>212012584
Meanwhile the really rich live here.

Wealth = SPACE
Space = FREEDOM

If you don't have space for yourself you are not rich, I don't care about your salary. Every higher mammal seeks territory, except the European, who is becoming more like a cockroach.

>>212012798
They don't. You can order cappucino while going 250 km/h and working on a laptop but being 8 minutes late is a disaster of course. Take a train in eastern Europe and say that again

>>212012781
I don't want to go there though, I never said that.
You can go there. Going to a poor country like Sweden or Germany won't help with ever being able to afford the non-poor life of an Alabama janitor.

>>212012706
Se enojo el travelo

>>212012706
Otro imbécil que se cree listo. El pisito de mierda impagable en una ciudad de mierda, la cima de la vida para un subnormal como tú.

>>212012878
Is that a picture of Europe?

Conservatives will unironically pretend this isn't a highly livable first world city but argue that Biloxi, MS is.

>>212012933
>You can go there
but I can't. it's literally impossible.
>Going to a poor country like Sweden or Germany won't help with ever being able to afford the non-poor life of an Alabama janitor.
no, but it's still a massive upgrade, and it's at least technically possible to get into those countries (though still extremely difficult).

for what it's worth there's a 95% chance I'll never make it out of this shithole but if I do succeed it will almost certainly be to another EU country. as I said, however, it's almost impossible. you don't want us there and even your immigrant obsessed governments don't want us.

>>212012982
Don't worry, nobody will ever force you to live in such an awful place, you can keep rotting your 60sqm apartment in peace.

>>212012973
Gracias a dios no soy un puto muerto de hambre subnormal como tú.

>>212012933
>You can order cappucino while going 250 km/h and working on a laptop
We're not talking about Italy. The state of high-speed rail in Germany is fucking laughable. We are literally worse than France, Spain, and Northern Italy.

>>212010511 (OP)
I would much rather live in California than any EU country desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSvpaEHkU8A

>>212013067
Eres español, por definición eres subnormal y muerto de hambre, y además arrogante y chulo de mierda, así va el país con gentuza que vanagloria la miseria y la defiende agresivamente.

>>212010511 (OP)
GDP is still a fairly useful metric althoughbeit

>>212013178
Sigue diciéndote eso puto subhumano basura, seguro que te va a ir la vida genial. Date un golpecito en la espalda máquina.

>>212012552
Europeans are also less racist compared to Americans. It took America 50 years to go from 90% white to 75% white while that happened in some European countries in like two weeks. Europe is the biggest proof that liberalism and individualism is scary and will always fail.

>>212013020
Germany needs people willing to do low-skilled labor though. Nurses and other kinds of caretaker jobs are also in high demand. You could literally be a non-EU citizen without qualifications and earn the same as a native German who did an Ausbildung as someone who takes care of the elderly or retards.
But no one should come here because it's poor. You will only live in a rotting 60 m2 apartment.

>>212013070
There are several tracks on which ICE trains reach up to 300 km/h inside Germany and when they cross the border into France they are permitted to go up to 320 km/h.

>>212013055
Is it a picture of Europe or not?

>>212013294
Esta actitud de puto imbécil chulesco es la razón por la que este país es un estercolero. Este país es una mierda porque está lleno de gentuza como tú, date cuenta de lo que estás defendiendo, subnormal.

>>212012933
The problem with German trains that they are brutally unreliable which is the worst aspect of a transit system. 50 year old rusty break dust coaches going slow will get you somewhere, canceled trains won't

>>212013367
My digger, some isolated chunks of rail where they "reach" 300 km/h is absolutely pathetic. Take a train from Milan to Rome once. It goes at 300km/h 90% of the time.

>>212012736
not not really, salaries are very high in USA.

People have high income, but the public areas are worse because of state capacity.

>>212013356
It should ring some alarms if liberals, that boast 24/7 their vitriol against whites, European history, colonialism and legacy happen to celebrate the political direction in Europe
Certainly i can imagine white nationalists would celebrate if african governments began castrating blacks and pumping them full of estrogen.

>>212012706
El retrasado es el que se queda en España, a la que pueda me piro y aquí te quedas pedazo de genio.

>>212013412
The punctuality is around 90%. Only far distance trains have the infamously low punctuality or around 70% but they make up like 5% of all trains.
When I was in Berlin I saw a Czech train and I was horrified what a piece of garbage that was, like something from 40 years ago left to rot.
Like I said above the main problem with Germany is that the grid is too full. Politicians have ambitions for how many train rides there should be without taking the actual capacity into account. The trains, the qualifications of people and everything is fine except for the overly ambitious and unrealistic schedule. Every shitbox can be "punctual" when "punctual" includes a 60 minute buffer on a 100 km track.

People need to be very careful with data like this and what it really says

Germanys GDP per capita very closely tracks to the average income, where as in Mississippi the average income is almost half of the GDP per capita of the state

It’s like taking tax havens and touting GDP per capita while average people there live like lower middle class or workers, but it’s RICH right because some financial sector giants offshore there for tax purposes

It can be useful, but you have to look at other things than just GDP, it’s a correlation metric

>>212013661
>It’s like taking tax havens and touting GDP per capita while average people there live like lower middle class or workers, but it’s RICH right because some financial sector giants offshore there for tax purposes
tired of this meme there is not a single tax haven whose status as a tax haven hasn't benefited the people living there
ireland was a shithole now it has one of the highest salary in the EU

>>212013441
Previously you said no train goes even 250, implying a technical inability.
Now you admit that they go even 300 when permitted.
Cologne-Frankfurt for example takes 80 minutes and that's only because it's forced to stop in two villages in-between. Without these superfluous stops it would be 60-70 minutes. Again that's an issue of the schedule, not of infrastructure or anything like that, like I said above.
What people in other countries mean when they complain about public transport is that it's left in a state of disrepair.
While there are problems they are taken out of proportion.

>>212013503
White nationalists don’t even hate blacks, they just don’t want them in their countries. Liberals on the other hand are anti white and will always see whites as enforcers of racism and try push them down. If you get praised by them you’ve castrated yourself. And for some reason every euro is a smug liberal

>>212013723
I’m just saying, that you need to be careful with economics

It’s not a hard science like physics where ohms law or the hamiltonian are just concrete statements about nature

Economics are soft, the concepts can be warped and misrepresented without any malice, which is why it pays to consider more than just one metric

>>212013599
I took trains in many countries and Germany was the one where I had by far the worst experience. DB would cancel not just the last one but the last two long distance trains, leaving everyone on the platform to figure things out of their own. I was lucky that I had a credit card on me so I could book a hotel room. I had so many delays, cancelations, scenarios where no one knows what is going to happen now, it is the worst experience I had with trains.

And what you say is the exact same cope the government uses here btw.
>It is just the InterCity trains that are late
Yeah fuck off. A lot of ICE trains have absolutely horrid punctuality rate and there are also a lot of canceled trains that do not show up in the statistics in the first place.

>When I was in Berlin I saw a Czech train
What? Czech trains are not bad at all, especially the international trains. The Czech ComfortJet is just a rebranded RailJet

>>212013752
Do you work in the DB PR department? Be honest. Do you actually take trains in this country? This nigga >>212013830 is on the money.

>>212013756
I guess.
On the other hand i feel like the "Euros are all liberals" thing is being forced by certain -parties-
EU imf BNWO advocates want to redefine what "European" is as some sort of Transgendered economic zone goycattle pod dweller.
And for that there is some deliberate attempt to reversely equate all of these thinga with Europeanness to make them defensive about it.

Its pretty shameful though.
They are spedrunning latin america thinking that this time it will somehow work different, we already tried this diversity project in all of south america, south africa, the US, etc.

USA is very rich.

And we spend this money on suburban sprawl, ridiculously over-sized cars, inefficient hospitals, and prepared food.

>>212013892
I'm just correcting blatant lies, by you and others.
>>212013830
ICE are long-distance trains and their punctuality is around 70%.
Short-distance trains have a punctuality of around 90%.
Small countries like Switzerland and Hungary don't have long-distance trains to begin with by the way. When you go from Hamburg to Munich you have a lot more opportunities to accumulate delays compared to going from Hamburg to Bremen.

>>212014034
>keeps spouting government numbers
>says personal experience is “blatant lies”
extreme glowie vibes

>>212014116
>German trains don't even go 200 XD the worst ever!
>The trains actually go 300 for years already on multiple tracks and are able to go even faster than that
>Stop invalidating my personal feelings, chud
No.

>>212014188
Where did I say they don't go 200km/h? I want a direct quote, nigger.

>>212014034
>Small countries like Switzerland and Hungary don't have long-distance trains to begin with
We have a circular IC that does a 540 km loop in East Hungary and yeah it is very often delayed.

Hamburg is about 600 km from Münich and the ICE train takes 6 hours

>When you go from Hamburg to Munich you have a lot more opportunities to accumulate delays
Yes because Germany train infra is outdated in many areas compared to not just Swiss but Austria too. I don't get why you are so defensive about this desu

>>212013944
I was so surprised at how much euros defended their African teams in the 2018 and 2022 World Cup and were actually surprised at how Argentina doesn’t have any. These people got pozzed so fast so easily. At least in America they made the lie that’s it’s the land of immigrants to allow non whites in. The Europeans accepted them even though their nationality is shaped by ethnic groups. Not my problem though, I like to observe from afar

I really do wish I was european
people here don't have a joie de vivre
it's all about efficiency, career, making money, image, going fast, NUMBERS GOING UP
doesn't matter if the business you created is shit or you literally can't explain what value you provide to the world
these fucking pigs disgust me and I'm sure they exist in europe too but definitely not to this degree

>>212014259
>>212013070

>>212014289
I'm not defensive about ti, I'm simply telling the facts and problems with German trains are massively overstated. There is enough room to criticize while sticking to facts, for example the undeniable fact that Germany has a much more complex train track system than smaller countries and that it doesn't even look that bad in a more apples-to-apples comparison like comparing regional trains only.
Austria has a punctuality of 87.5% by the way with the long-distance train between Prague-Budapest-Vienna being 53% pucntual.

>>212014469
t. 70% Indians

>>212014643
Well these things should not matter. Can trains reliable take you from A to B on a regular basis without delays? No one cares about the rest. If YouTube starts to slow down you don't care that people are uploading like 10k terabytes every hour, you expect it to work. I have noticed that train people love to make excuses of why the train system is shit as if it was not a service people pay for and there would not be other complex systems people use on a daily basis.

>>212014668
Fake stat. Only 40% of our population are foreigners. They’re all guest workers not citizens

>>212014668
Indians can't vote in saudi
They are segregated and will get removed as soon as their period ends.
Meanwhile in western europe your political class is becoming dminated by quislings and migrants that will obviously use that power to boss you arround

>>212014763
Okay

>Hungarian train punctuality has been a mixed bag recently. While state operator MÁV recorded an 80% punctuality rate for over a million trains in 2024, some lines have experienced significant delays and increases in travel time. There have also been reports of decreased punctuality on certain routes, even leading to a temporary suspension of reporting punctuality data.

>After posting record low punctuality rates for July and August, state railway company MÁV has not published the September data, mass transit campaigner Dávid Vitézy noted on Facebook.

>Only 36.4% of trains with mandatory seat reservations were on time (i.e. less than five minutes late) in July and even fewer, 32.8%, in August. Both figures were record lows.

>The figure never fell below 50% before 2022 and was still close to 45% last August.

How does 90% sound in this context?

>>212014868
I don't get this gatcha moment I already told you Hungarian railways is shit and also told you that the railways here uses the EXACT SAME excuses as you. They even upload infographics like these

>How does 90% sound in this context?
Nigga what 90% you are talking about? ICE had 62.5% punctuality last year not counting all the canceled trains and the fact that ICE supposed to be this premium service with expensive as fuck tickets not some rusky junk in Hungary that has not increased in price in like 15 years.

>>212014764
So you're a nation of... let me check... "guest workers"?

>>212014822
Yes just two more weeks. Good thing that's not your problem though because Argentinians are much smarter and will turn into a nazi state or something the moment average income rises above 4000 usd/month and attracts migrants (you will be dead anyway long before that happens)

>>212015027
You said your worst experiences were in Germany but the numbers show that other countries are worse. "Bad" is a relative term.

>>212015038
No, they don’t have any roll in our society or history.

>>212015096
Because in Germany they would cancel multiple trains and leave everyone on the platform with no replacement or any information of what is going to happen now which was definitely a worse experience, especially being in a foreign country I don't know much than the rusty trains here beings slow and lake because of the shitty rail geometry

>>212012244
weird cope from constantly-bankrupt-gentina

>>212012522
Holy cope

>>212010511 (OP)
>g-g-gdp doesn't actually measure anything!
retard

>>212014469
>how much euros defended their African teams in the 2018 and 2022 World Cup
Yeah that's extremely cringy and pathetic

>>212018578
there is that french guy that only come on /sp/ during international events to defend the black players honor

>>212015038
>hehe argentinians are poor because they are brown just like we are going to be!

>>212013485
>not not really, salaries are very high in USA.
Garbage picture but you get the point

>>212010746
Ok, think it this way. What 48.000 USD buys you there, and what the average citizen could do with their wages w/o using credit.

>>212019235
>other countries lack hyper rich people

>>212012244
My guess is that you are not living in CABA, right?

>>212019235
USA has the second highest median income in the OECD even after adjusting for Purchasing Power Parity, second only to Luxembourg.

>>212019502
Mississippi is lower COL to UK.

Problem is its a shithole and its main city is basically a war zone that the state government has began to directly police.

>>212019902
>lower COL to UK
Nigga what?