Thread 212017108

>>212017108 (OP)
and... did they?

This is why we dropped the nukes
Operation Downfall would’ve been apocalyptic
Rivers of blood
Better Fat Man and Little Man than Olympic and Coronet

>>212017482
Blood for the blood god

>>212017482
shut up criminal

>>212017584
It wasn’t pretty but it had to be done and there’s no reason to fight about it today. The best thing we can do is try to make sure nothing like it ever needs to happen again

>>212017737
shut up criminal. america just commited international crime AGAIN.
put yourself in your place.

>>212017862
I wasn’t speaking for the American nation but as an individual. We all have a responsibility to prevent future conflict. But I do find it ironic that in this particular context you would bring up Iran, considering the fact that the intention of the strikes was to put an end to the Iranian nuclear program, in other words the proliferation of the nuclear weapons that do horrify you.
>pic
I’m not sure why you think it’s relevant. Yes, there was a desire among many to get involved in the ongoing World War, for understandable reasons

>>212017482
It's cool how Amerimutts justify all the horrors of their shitty country and Jewish overlords, whilst crying and seething at the supposed war crimes of others. Fucking Goylems

>>212017862
Saved

>>212017737
It didn't have to be done at all, Japan was already planning on surrendering and the US wouldn't have the balls to actually invade precisely because it thought the same way as you.

>>212018072
Gibbering anti-semitic moron
>>212018155
>Japan was already planning on surrendering
No. How do you come to these ridiculous conclusions

>>212018215
Yes, just like that Goylem, defend your masters. I'm assuming you already volunteered for the Iranian front lines, yes?

>>212018010
nice propaganda.
america has 4000 nukes if you really want destroy america first retard.

also america supported a international criminal who ICC issued arrest warrant and bombed iran. its complicity.
your government break the international law. and killed innocent people because they are muslims. retard

>>212018432
I don’t support complete nuclear disarmament, or Israel, or the strikes in Iran. You know nothing about my politics, and I was pointing out the irony in your views, not my own. You act like the nuclear bomb is the worst thing the world, then condemn strikes specifically intended to prevent their proliferation. It’s funny to me, that’s all.
>killed innocent people because they are muslims
You have a child’s view of the situation in the Middle East if you think America is out to “kill Muslims.” It’s morbid to say this, but if America wanted to kill Muslims, we could be doing so a lot more effectively. Precision strikes with bunker busters are not the way to maximize civilian casualties. You could make the same point about Israel. Whether or not you support their actions, their aggression is targeted.

>>212017108 (OP)
weird how nearly every single thread about japan will quickly devolve into the same debates between the same handful of schizos without fail

>>212018623
>You act like the nuclear bomb is the worst thing the world
how about taste it by youself then?
>iran is going to have nukes
its what your criminal government which violated international law said. do you trust in criminal?
>we can kill them more effectively
like america did to iraq? was there any weapon of mass destruction in iraq?
NO. america lied again in iraq war.
understand kid?

>>212018786
>you are schizo
>NOOOO WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KILL MUSLIMS FOR NO REASON
are you ok?

>>212018955
are you Japanese?

>>212017482
Nuclear bombs aren't as bad as the fire bombings, and general bombing of cities and targeting the civilian population (WW1 wasn't like that).

>>212018987
yes whats wrong with it?
do you think im iranian or persian or something?
i dont like those who dont give a single fuck about the lives of none whites.

>>212018990
>Nuclear bombs aren't as bad as the fire bombings
taste it then retard.
america genocided hundreds of thousands of japanese citizens with 2 nukes.
they used it because we are not white.

>>212018908
Nobody is saying nuclear weapons are good. The best that can be said of them is that they’re a necessary evil. If Operation Downfall had been executed, the degree of death and devastation would’ve been unimaginable. It would’ve made the dropping of the bombs look like nothing. Even if there were certain figures in the Japanese government who wanted peace, authority was too decentralized for any kind of meaningful movement towards surrender to be put into action without an overwhelming show of force that would prove plans like Ketsu Go would be futile. As a matter of fact, several Japanese commanders in places like China still refused to surrender even after the bombings until it was made clear to them that the Soviets were serious about entering the war and they would never be able to resist their ground forces. This is the degree of fanaticism that was present. They thought “Well, they can nuke the home islands, sure, but they won’t nuke our forces abroad. Press on, men!”
>do you trust in criminal?
Do you trust in the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard that funds terrorist projects across the globe and has repeatedly made clear its desires to annihilate its enemies by any means necessary? And I’m not even saying this to support the strikes. I don’t support the strikes.
>like america did to Iraq?
Literally yes. Do you have any idea how many innocent people died meaninglessly in the wars that followed 9/11? Completely absurd conflicts. America is clearly not acting in this instance how it did then

are you guys in white christian countries think that supporting an international war criminal is a good thing for your government to do?
america, uk, france, germany and EU did it to destroy iran this time.

>>212019162
>If Operation Downfall had been executed
its what your criminal government said to you, right?
R right?
answer this question first.

>>212019246
We have records from the Japanese government about the organization of civilian militias that they were going to deploy against American troops. They gave spears to 17 year old girls and told them to fight to the death. Really think about what this looks like. They had already formed I believe ~25 million Japanese civilians into militias by the time of the surrender. Really think about what this would’ve looked like

>>212019330
why arent you able to answer my simple question and try to change the topic?
again answer my simple question.

you said
>If Operation Downfall had been executed
its what your criminal government said to you, right?

can you answer the question without trying to change the topic?

>>212019330
the question is important to keep this conversation.
you dont like to answer it?
if so, why?

>>212019416
I don’t understand what you’re getting at. Are you asking me to prove it would’ve been bloody? Because that’s what I was doing when I brought up the militias. The OP is about the “Glorious Death of the 100 Million.” If you’re questioning whether Operation Downfall was a real plan, I mean… look at the massive preparations that were being made on Okinawa. Look at the inland beach and inland defenses the Japanese military had been putting together. Look at the formation of the militias and the raising of new divisions that was going on. They knew it was coming.

>>212019330
do you cuck out like orange?

>>212019509
>I don’t understand what you’re getting at
come on. dont try to be dumb.
its a simple question.
do you trust american government which is a criminal government?

>>212019513
I understand that this might be an emotional subject for you but please understand that I am not trying to attack you or your country.

>>212019612
I don’t trust the government, no, and especially not the administration in power right now. Will that answer suffice?

>>212019509
maybe my question is still too difficult for you to understand.
how about this question?
do you trust what criminals say?

>>212019638
im not emotional. just answer the question.
you have been trying to avoid answering my simple question.
thats because you know its too tough for you to answer, right?

>>212019681
>>212019742
See >>212019675

>>212019675
>I don’t trust the government,
ok enough. you dont trust the government. then why do you use the announcement of the government to justify your thought?

>>212019815
In respect to what? World War 2? Iran? Are you questioning whether Iran had a military nuclear program?

>>212019883
is there anything other than the government announcement in your posts itt?

>>212019935
Yes…? Have you read a single thing I’ve said?

>>212019959
>single thing
apparently its just a annoucement of your government which you dont trust.

for example.
you want to push the idea that iran has been developing nuke, right?
one by one simple question.
can you answer this?
this is important for you to reason your thought, right?

you think that iran has been developing nuke, right?

>>212020079
>poland
are you jewish? :)
and then came here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QshP3opuFjE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUNgrYmE0N8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mczhnO-rio4
Are we pretending Japanese planes never bombed cities?

>>212020114
I mean, we know for a fact that Iran has 60% enriched uranium. You only need ~3.67% for production of nuclear energy, and 90% for use in nuclear bombs. They could have bombs within a few months if they really wanted it. I don’t know if they really wanted it. It’s plausible but not certain, and Israel is our source telling us they were on the verge of creating weapons, and of course they’re not entirely unbiased.

>>212020202
Actually, looking into it, they’d apparently reached 83.7% a couple years ago.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/01/middleeast/iran-uranium-enrichment-iaea-intl/index.html

>>212020202
>source israel
wait. is it the country who ICC issued arrest warrant for war crime to prime minister who america support?

>>212020256
americans often say that american media is ruled by jewish people, right?
what do you think about it?

>>212020278
Israel isn’t the source of all our information about their nuclear program. I’m just saying they’re the ones making the claim that Iran was just about to actually make bombs. That was the justification for their preemptive strike.

>>212020256
all your source is from jewish or israel or american government who want to destroy iran.

>>212020302
>americans often say
Schizophrenics often say. The information also doesn’t come from CNN. CNN is just reporting it.

>>212020348
The source in the article I linked is the International Atomic Energy Agency.

>>212017108 (OP)
>The Glorious Death of One Hundred Million
Imagine the vril...

>>212017108 (OP)
Both germany and Japan should have never surrendered and fought to the last man, woman, and child. Its better to die free than to live as slaves.

>>212020336
>Israel isn’t the source of all our information about their nuclear program.
your government cherry picked the sources so they were able to attack iran, right?
american intelligence adviced potus that iran is not developing nuclear weapon.
but trump ignored it as you know.
cherry picking in order to destroy iran.

>>212019088
Germany surrendered before they could be used, and Japan was spared being split into two halves like Korea.
The greatest mistake was kicking the UK out of the region however.

>>212020428
if all japanese were killed we wouldn't have anime and that isn't a world worth living in

>>212020445
I’m not even in favor of the strikes. I don’t even support Trump. All I said is that the claim they were developing bombs is hardly implausible.

the japanese should be thankful for the bombs
their emperor would love to send hundreds of thousands more of his people to die defending the home islands

>>212020486
>All I said is that the claim they were developing bombs is hardly implausible.
once again in other words. because something weird to traslate to japanese.

>>212020486
do you think that iran was not developing nuclear weapon?

>>212020577
確実に開発していたとは言えない。だけど開発していたら不思議ではない。イズラエルは信用できないけどイランの動きはどう見ても怪しかった

Kino

>>212017584
>>212017862
Is he wrong though? Allied command had no reason to believe the Japanese wouldn't suddenly start taking up farm tools and charging soldiers. What other way would there have been to end the war via unconditional surrender? Because the Allies weren't going to accept anything less after all of it.

>>212017482
Realistically japan was thoroughly buckbroken and its people were demoralized and devastated, so despite the dogma of imperial fanatics I’m not really sure an invasion would’ve resulted in universal civilian guerrilla fighting.

>>212017482
The most humane nuking of civilian women and children ever!

>>212020948
Arming women and children with sticks and kitchen knives and telling them to charge invading soldiers is much more moral

>>212020452
>The greatest mistake was kicking the UK out of the region however.
nice try

>>212020879
To clarify I condone neither the atomic bombing nor the recent spat with iran. But I get how in that period of time Allied leadership could see the Japanese mainland as being filled with brainwashed maniacs that needed a sort of "wake up call". As horrible as it is to say.

remember the 666 trillion who died to american nukes... its ogre...

>>212020729
american intelligence who know more about iran than trump, right?
american intellitence said that iran was not building nuclear weapon. and trump ignored it to help the person which ICC issued arrest warrant for war crime.
he ignored it.

>>212020807
and we liberated asian coutries from white christian colonizers ;)

>>212021091
>They still believe this wasn't a new management thing
Netouyo please. The only reason you guys went there was to secure their resources for the war.

>>212021062
I’m not a Trump supporter. I don’t support the strikes. I don’t think we should’ve left the Iran Nuclear Deal to begin with. I think that was a huge mistake on his part. I don’t necessarily believe Israel when they say they were about to complete nuclear weapons. However, we know for a fact Iran was enriching uranium far past the point that was necessary for civilian uses. It seems clear to me that they at least wanted to keep the nuclear option available for themselves. We also as far as we know don’t know specifically what the intelligence report Trump received said. I also thought you didn’t trust the government?

>>212021091
did you watch the movie "letters from iwo jima"?

No.

>>212021198
no.
>>212021104
>went there
MAGA bleez
where do you mean?

>>212021172
>we know for a fact Iran was enriching uranium far past the point that was necessary for civilian uses.
even if it were true like the white organization which is ruled by white people whose countries attacked iran says, do you think its allowed to destroy iran without negotiation without declaration of war?

what america and the funny fellows did this time was totally unlawful.

do you guys want to live in a chaotic world.
its no law world.
america and european countries are bring the chaos to this world right fcking now.
they dont follow international rule.
and they think that they are allowed because they rule the world.

>>212021401
Again, I’m not going to make excuses for the strikes. This whole situation is rotten. In fact I think this whole modern world is so rotten we don’t need to come up with any delusional conspiracy theories about Jews or white colonizer nuclear scientists in Vienna to make it any worse. We should’ve stuck to the old deal, delayed their nuclear progress, kept closely monitoring them and waited for the Iranian people to restore the legitimate government. Instead of doing that we ended up in this situation because people choose to be dumb, impatient, and pessimistic

>>212017108 (OP)
>nooooooooooooo defending your country is bad because…it just is okay!

>>212017482
Japan wanted to surrender before the bombings. Americans are war criminals

>>212021540
the reason why the western society is getting chaotic more and more is because the people dont follow the rules of the society.
those countries this time broke international law.
and they spread the chaos to the world.
thats the problem.

>>212020428
They’re not slaves though

>>212020575
> their emperor would love to send hundreds of thousands more of his people to die defending the home islands
Idiot, Emperor Shōwa loved his people and ended WW2 to save them

>>212021613
Yes, people are forgetting their God, their manners and their morals. It’s getting worse by the year. The only thing I can do is apologize. It’s not within my power to restore sanity in this country or any other. I’m a teacher and I’ve seen firsthand how difficult it is to make a lesson stick.

>>212021589
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST HECKIN NUKE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO FIGHT TO THE VERY END! THAT'S A WARCRIMERINO!

ネトウヨ moment

>>212017482
how is your sex life?

>>212021697
you dont have to appologize to anyone. its what america and NATO did.
education is important. the reason why america became shit is because the government didnt give a fuck about education which should be given even to lower citizens. but they didnt.
instead they(both gop and dem) used it to gather votes (rainbow or christian fundamentalism: you know more about this than me )
trump abandoned public education it seems.

>>212021641
Yes they are

>>212021925
being slaves is better than being american frfr
(* ´艸｀)ｸｽｸｽ

>>212021883
バキバキ童貞です
>>212021887
Our country has never cared much for education. It’s always been seen as frivolous. Only work and trade are seen as possessing any significance

japanese posters are my favorite

They say "Operation Downfall" would've caused more damage to the Japanese population. Actually, it happened, but not in Japan, it happened in Korea.

Korean War caused twice bigger casualties than Pacific War, so they were right about their claim.

>The US dropped a total of 635,000 tons of bombs, including 32,557 tons of napalm, on Korea. By comparison, the U.S. dropped 160,000 on Japan during WW2. J Howard McGrath, referred to the Koreans as “rodents,” and thus had no regrets about the ongoing slaughter.

>In 1951, war correspondent Tibor Meráy said that there were “no more cities in Korea.” He added, “My impression was that I am traveling on the moon because there was only devastation—every city was only a collection of chimneys.” An estimated 2.5 million Koreans died in the bombing, most of them civilians, many of them incinerated by napalm.

>>212017482
TRVTH NVKE
TRVTH NVKE

You know after WW2, what the US did to Korea? They said something like, "We liberated Asia from da evil Jap empire!" and divided the peninsula at 38 latitude or by autistic straight line. And these American christians genocided 20% of the Korean population, not only North Koreans, killed a lot of South Koreans too. And they started the same proxy war shit in Vietnam later. lol

>>212017482
The US guided the attack on Pearl Harbour.
This is a fact acknowledged by Kissinger.

lmaooo