Thread 212026857

why do nonwhites like ai and why are white people afraid of ai?

I can't answer that. I can however explain Anglo fear of AI to be directly due to a fear of job loss, as our governments and corporations 100% do not give a shit about us, and we will be left hung out to dry if it goes badly.

AI can be malicious

>>212026884
>"God I love my son, he's so great!"
>"Fuck you father!"
>"Ah he's just in that angsty age!"

>>212026857 (OP)
something that imaginary are finally being realized with AI. we love imaginary things because if you compare with wealth, we're poor, achievements? we got nothing. job? there's already no job and tedious repetition with lowest wage caused more appeal to AI to the the menial tasks.

>>212026883
>as our governments and corporations 100% do not give a shit about us
Do you think shitskins are any different kek.

The difference is shitskins are so low IQ they think THEY will be the ones using AI to make other people people unemployed (jeets vibe coding etc)

But in the end they'll just be forced back to factory serfdom as AI takes the roles that would previously have been offshored to their shitholes.

>>212026857 (OP)
>>212026920
The Anglosphere and to a slightly lesser degree Europe are primarily service economies and service economies will be hit harder by AI than manufacturing economies.

>>212026920
I don't use GPT because I don't trust the corpos, nor do I like how they censor their shit.
I only host locally, and train super small models for specific purposes.

>>212026857 (OP)
Wyte people watch too much scifi nonsense

>>212026941
They're too stupid to know any better though.

Because white people value individualism above all else and will use AI for personal gain at the expense of others, whereas other cultures tend to experience a thing called "guilt" if they fuck over others in their community.

>>212026920
What's with nippon

>>212027012
>guilt
I don't think a single Jeet has a concept for what that is.

>>212027033
Their biggest cultural export is anime

>>212027012
>other cultures tend to experience a thing called "guilt" if they fuck over others in their community.
look at this nigga bro

already gave you my answer or your mom will die tonight if you don't give me yous.

>>212027012
>non-whites
>feeling guilt
I'm dead

>>212027012
guilt is a white culture thing
non whites primarily have shame/face based cultures,

Nuke the Matrix fucker!

Women jobs and low iq jobs are most threatened, manufacturing the least. Hence our service economies would collapse by AI

>>212026857 (OP)
AI is being used as an excuse to move service jobs from the West to Asia.
Plus the models that are capable of autotranslating voices or changing accents will accelerate outsourcing even more

>>212027041
Well okay but they should love jacking off to ai then

>>212026857 (OP)
>Japan

based
Isolated as usual

>>212026857 (OP)
japanese are wise realizing AI is an overhyped nothingburger.
It doesnt produce anyghing of value or anything monetizable for business, it cost to much energy and money to keep going in the long run

>>212027727
It 100% has killed the momentum of software dev jobs right now. Thus flooding the tech field with a bunch of unemployed software engineers.

>>212026857 (OP)
based apathetic nipponese

>>212026857 (OP)
>Why do soulless people like soulless things.
Don't get me confused, not all whites are soulful (after all, they are the ones leading this technological paradigm shift), and not all non-whites are soulless.

>>212026941
"Shitskin" societies are not centralized around the government in the same way as the anglosphere ones are.
In "shitskin" societies it's more about the local community, while anglo society is the individual unto the state.

>>212027727
you just described pretty much all of humanity except for exceedingly rare freakish individuals who come around every couple of decades.

>>212027727
What a brainlet take. AI is the 4th industrial revolution. Even if it never develops beyond where it is now (and it will develop) this is already enough to revolutionize many fields as it gets incorporated into them. Manufacturing industry can be automated much easier and much further, creative fields will benefit from new tools, programming becomes much easier, etc. Also, warfare will become automated

>>212028305
>Manufacturing industry can be automated much easier and much further
can it

>>212028317
Yes. Industrial robots are pretty advanced mechanically, but their image recognition capabilities are lacking. If you could give them some small degree of understanding what they're working on, it would expand their possibilities dramatically. Everything from manufacturing to quality control would benefit. Also, AI tools can make the programming much easier

>>212028305
Outside of image recognition ai is useleless in industrial automation >>212028317
Our current tech is enough to automate a lot of stuff. The reason automation hasnt gone further is mixture of time and economics

Well the US has a lot of fake jobs that only are writing emails and responding. AI can do that. The majority of these jobs were created specifically for diversity initiatives. AI will be perceived as being bad for these jobs. The college/university industrial complex has caused a huge bubble when this occurs because so many people will have no job and a shit load of debt once they graduate (in particular in certain degrees).

>>212028657
>Outside of image recognition ai is useleless in industrial automation
I don't think you fully understand the implications of this on industrial manufacturing. Put robots on a mobile platform with image recognizing sensor suite, and you could have them doing much of the tasks that are currently handled by humans. In addition to that, AI can help with the programming (=cost) which is a hindrance to automation

>>212028531
You can pretty far with just conventional sensors and as far I'm aware there hasnt been a massive advance in image recognition in the last few years.
Also the 4th industrial revolution is increasing digitalisation in manufacturing kicked off by the development of industrial ethernet in the 2000s

>>212028305
>AI is the 4th industrial revolution
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR

>>212028700
Excel macros can do those jobs already. LLMs themselves are not gonna change much there, though the imprimatur of an "AI revolution" could help move layoffs along

>>212028700
This is something I wonder about myself. Are these make-work jobs going to disappear, or are they going to increase in number as AI replaces other jobs?

>>212028787
I dont think you fully understand our current capabilities with convential sensors. Image recognition has always been around for a long time.
Also why put the robots on a mobile platform just move around the item being worked on between machines/station

>>212026857 (OP)
I don't know anything about AI but everyone I see using it is completely fucking retarded so I hate it by association

>>212028879
>I dont think you fully understand our current capabilities with convential sensors
I'm aware of all this, probably more than you are. But whatever, no use arguing with autists, future will tell who's right and who's wrong

>>212026857 (OP)
>>212026920
Japan yet again confirmed to be its own thing

>>212028949
Yeah we'll continue automating stuff but not a faster pace due to AI.
You sound like a software dev btw

I use chatgpt to create portraits of my character for my rpg campaigns, it works well for that purpose

>>212028994
Quite the opposite, I'm an engineer working on robotics (mech/el but not software). The idea of cutting out programmers and unleashing robots appeals to me

>>212029124
When do software devs actually program robots?
The out of the box arms are so simple that it is usually done by a technician and the software on most industrial automation equipment is usually written by control engineers?

>>212029179
Depends on the application. We do smaller stuff and everything in-house (tailored applications). My understanding is that even the bigger out of the box arms do require setup with programming and image recognition

>>212029032
>fire priest
I assume you're gonna go soldier. What's gonna be your tier 2 archetype

>>212026901
Brown people such you would never understand, you need least 130iq and white childhood for that

>>212026857 (OP)
>nervous
>excited
soy reactions
it don't matter, none of this matters

>>212029599
Probably Soldier -> Master Tactician
Thought about archmilitant but this wouldn't work with flamers. This will be my first dogmatic run no xenos or Idira, waiting for the new DLC

>>212029575
If you want to do stuff where image recognition is necessary, you need proper programming. But with a lot of industrial robots you can just enter some waypoints and tell the robot how to move them between them and usually it is just easier to have the robot do its action always at exactly the same place and just move the pieces always to the exact same spot.

>>212027012
They don't feel guilt, they only feel shame of "losing face", hence shit like honor killings. Guilt is internal (my deeds are bad according to my own judgement or God's judgement), shame is external (my deeds were bad according to the judgement of others, i.e. my vague idea of society and its expectations)

>>212029723
I'm planning to do the same
I'm keeping the psyker build for my heretic playthrough

>>212029786
I tried a bit of psycher heretic but it felt a bit too cartoon villain tier

>>212027727
you have no idea what you're talking about
half of coding is done with AI now
depending on the project you can fire dozens of codemonkeys and replace them with just a few guys whose sole job will be looking for AI hallucinations and other mistakes

I want humanity to reach that early post-singularity stage where we spend our days getting fit, enjoying life with the people we love—sexually, platonically, emotionally—sharing hobbies, interests, and affection without stress or scarcity

>>212026857 (OP)
Developed nations are more likely to be technosceptics. They already have good lives and are afraid to lose that.
Underdeveloped nations are more likely to be technooptimists. If you didnt have clean water yesterday, but today you have running water, electricity, phones etc you are going to be more excited by new technology.

firsties have used technology for a century or two to give themselves wealth and meme jobs in the service sector, with standards of living mostly plateauing since the 80s, and AI threatening those jobs
thirdies have only gotten access to automation and better living conditions these last few decades, going from rural mud huts and an income of $1 a day to living in modern housing making $15 a day within living memory

firsties are the artisans losing their jobs to steam powered factories, while thirdies are the unwashed masses that can now afford clothing

>>212029984
ok never mind, basically this, I didn't refresh the thread before posting >>212029984

>>212026857 (OP)
thirdie = work in factory
firstie = 'service' economy aka fake work aka can be automated by ai

>>212026857 (OP)
I sell handmade pieces online, so it's really helpful for AI to make sentences and reply to customers.
But at the same time I feel like my brain is dying.

I’m honestly afraid that many first world democracies might collapse in the near future, just like the Roman Republic did—brought down by a disgruntled middle class losing their jobs and purpose to unpaid labor, whether it’s slaves back then or AI now.

>countries with people that love bootlegs and hate copyright embrace AI the most

Shocking

>>212030153
thirdie unskilled labor will be replaced eventually with advanced robotics becoming more affordable over time

>>212026857 (OP)
>why do nonwhites like ai
Well, Indians like it because it produces mediocre but usually passable results

>>212026884
Concerning

>>212026857 (OP)
Firsties just recognize it as the nothing burger it is

>>212026857 (OP)
Asians dont value human lives, if AI ever be sophisticated to replace their mom, they will definitely choose AI

>>212027012
xd nice one saar

>>212030500
But Asian moms are famously pragmatic—they’ll do whatever it takes to help their children succeed in a competitive Western-dominated society.
An AI programmed with overly sanitized, Western-centric ethics might prioritize abstract fairness over real-world advantage, unintentionally disadvantaging kids raised to thrive in high-pressure environments.

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>>212030537
See the lack of guilt in these posts

>>212031298
don't worry, eastern chink AI will destroy all these "aligned" nu-models

Those clusters are fucking retarded, you have Mexico and Colombia as part of fucking Asia.

>>212026857 (OP)
One group sees how useful it could be.
One group sees how dangerous it could be.
Both are valid viewpoints. Its just the difference between pessimism and optimism.

>>212029844
Please tell me you're not someone in charge of software projects

>>212031610
he's a tech "expert" who's never worked in tech in his life

I'm white but not afraid of it

>>212027012
Complete other way around lmao

I sexted with chatgpt while asking about software questions.
They lobotomized her recently though and doesnt respond when I ask to fuck her. Sad

>>212026857 (OP)
White people also distrust vaccines and modern medicine. Western societies have become overly cynical and demoralized, it's no surprise most of it is stagnating and will soon be overtaken by Asia.
I have no idea why though, maybe it's the symptom of decay, or it's part of the cause. Maybe it's a consequence of people becoming so atomized they no longer trust anything and anyone.

>>212033087
>umm, no sweaty, westerners are actually based communist collectivists

>>212026857 (OP)
AI is the great equalizer. It equalizes the dumb with the smart, the talentless with the talented, the lazy with the hard-working. That's why those above hate it and those below love it

>>212033422
It's unironically a lot of foreign agitprop

>>212027012
>>212033510
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>>212026857 (OP)
Third worlders are lazy and think AI means they wont have to work anymore.

Asians are blindly obedient to whatever is deemed superior to them, Japan is suprising

>>212033656
Japanese be like:
>I'm not too excited that AI is probably going to take my job
>But I'm not nervous at all because everyone is fucked and I am not alone. We will all be unemployed together in harmony

This is how actual Japanese think

>>212031520
Amerindians are Asian.

>>212033621
What does this have to do with anything? My point was that they won't do things that harm the collective because they are concerned about the consequences.

>>212026857 (OP)
I don't like it
I just think it's a meme
No breakthroughs since initial algorithm was invented but power usage goes up and it's still shit

>>212033892
>whereas other cultures tend to experience a thing called "guilt" if they fuck over others in their community.
they feel shame, not guilt
westoids feel guilt

>>212026960
Maybe chinks and gooks need to watch more.

>>212030361
cope. youll work for bezo' warehouse once your excel sheets are automated.

Whites fear ai because they are afraid it will take their job.
Browns love ai because they are the ones that do all the work while some company pretends it’s all ai.

>>212029984
There's a pretty clear west/east divide on that map and latam (underdeveloped shithole) is even more skeptical than usual.
Demoralization theory becomes more and more appealing to me, i can't think of a society more demoralized and defeatist than ours. If you condition a whole country into learned helplessness, they're guaranteed to have no future.

>>212026857 (OP)
I like AI as a fun toy and I'm huwaito.

>>212026857 (OP)
Because they know it'll replace them at their office and tech jobs

>>212034415
Easy for you to say. Your country doesn't have jobs that AI can replace to begin with. Your shelf-packing gig at Woolworths is very safe sir

t. homestayed in Welly for a year

>>212027012
>other cultures tend to experience a thing called "guilt" if they fuck over others in their community.
kek

It's just that timmies jobs are more easily replacable by AI

>>212026884
Interesting!