Burgers were right about A/C.

They were right to laugh at yuropoors. We should have listened. But we didn't.

>>212077529 (OP)
I need a new heater. My house is cold as fuck right now.

>>212077529 (OP)
they absolutely are
im fine in my apartment since its shaded by trees but whenever i go out i get absolutely raped by the heat
i have to get my car ac sericed too

>>212077639
Why didn't we listen? Are we really that smug, that arrogant?

>>212077529 (OP)
I accept your concession with all the dignity and poise you might expect from an American

>>212077529 (OP)
It's just a matter of comfort bruv

>>212077639
smart thinking, installing an ac for outside means you don't have to find an exit for the exhaust

>>212077726
A/C is more than that. It's a milestone of human achievement yet we dismissed it as immature and new-wordly.

>Save the yuropoors

>>212077529 (OP)
That's why all new houses in Sweden from about 2015 and forward come with central air installed.

>>212078096
Lucky you. In Germany they’re banned because they’re too climate damaging and power consuming

>>212078096
Chiquitita, you and I know
How the heartaches come and they go and the scars they're leavin'
You'll be dancing once again and the pain will end
You would have no time for grievin'

>>212078096
Apartments as well, anon.
My place was built in 2019 and has ac.
I have it set to automatic so my place is never more than 20c.

>>212078122
isn't a heat pump physically the same thing? those were even subsidized for a while
you just have to install the necessary gadgets in your house, because the normal heaters won't do it

>>212078198
Chiquitita, you and I cry
But the sun is still in the sky and shinin' above you
Let me hear you sing once more like you did before
Sing a new song, Chiquitita

>>212078122
>In Germany they’re banned because they’re too climate damaging and power consuming
What the fuck.
So you can't even install them on your own?

>>212077529 (OP)
i genuinely dont understand the whole ac discussion on /int/. my ac costs as much as the monitor of my pc its not some expensive thing it's a tiny fraction of your monthly salary

>>212078430
WE HAVE THE FUCKING HIGHEST ENERGY PRICES ON TOP OF HAVING THE HIGHEST TAX RATE IN THE WORLD CAN YOU PLEASE STOP RUBBING IT IN

>>212078430
Electricity prices in Europe are like two to three times higher than they are here because they aren't self-sufficient and import all their shit from Russia

>>212077529 (OP)
I kneel to superior burgers wisdom!
*kneels*

>>212078483
CAN YOU PLEASE JUST STOP RUBBING IT IN

YOU WON

YOU FUCKING WON

The always booty blasted european mindset makes sense when you realize they are all dying from heatstroke every summer. They aren't thinking correctly when suffering. Poor people

>>212078505
I'm not trying to be rude

I wish we had the need for AC...
Just came back from a 2 week vacation in south Japan with glorious 25-30+ degrees and this the shit I get...

>>212077529 (OP)
if you don't live in the US that means you are poor simple as

>>212078452
uranium deposits in saxony, /thread

>>212078837
So the walls came tumblin' down
And your love's a blown out candle
All is gone and it seems too hard to handle

>>212078005
Those things suck. Never actually worth the money.
I had one for "55m2" rooms and it barely changed the temp in my 41m2 apartment at all.
And it was a really expensive Whirlpool model..

>>212079005
I just bought one for my bedroom today and things are so much better. I was frying in here

>>212079185
Smaller room I guess.

>>212077529 (OP)
Laughing at your shitty cunt as I cool my massive Serbian balls with AC on the second floor of my house.

I have never EVER lived in a home without central AC

>>212078863
the ONLY element to mine in that entire region is bismuth, now please divert your attention elsewhere

Air conditioning is one of the most underrated technologies of the 20th century. I think there needs to be a lot of research to make new types of air conditioning feasible and cheap.

>>212077529 (OP)
Wait til you find out about freedom of speech

>>212078837
it's brutal seeing switzerland which europeans consider to be financial eden get this hard mogged by america

>>212079511
How does that work in your cunt?

>>212078430
AC is very cheap in your country.
In my country, the price of a typical PC monitor is around this.
>24 to 27"
>1920x1080
>180 to 200Hz
>GtoG 0.5 to 1.0ms
around €95 to €214

AC is €300 for the cheapest one + €120 for installation
Large one for living room, about €3000 if you need to drill a hole in the outside wall or something.

>>212079551
it exists unlike in poorope

>>212077529 (OP)
but for real, what is stopping you guys from installing these at your houses? are they banned?

it cost about $600

>>212079511
DON'T TEMPT ME, FRODO

also, thanks for liking my japan joke i posted this morning <3

>>212079609
How so? Idk we don't need weapons to have nice lives, seems non optimal to me, no?

>>212079632
Most Euros live in rented apartments.
You're not allowed to randomly drill holes in the wall to install AC.
Some landlords will allow it if it's professionally done but that's rare.
Like my first apartment was in a "commieblock" from the 60's. We're talking 40cm++ of concrete walls. So it's not even possible to begin with.

>>212077529 (OP)
>be me
>live in rooftop apartment
>facing the sun all day, roof and walls baking and absorbing heat
>windows are inward leaning type so can't even use a portable ac unit
>not even hot out today, only 22c
>apartment is still 26c because build up heat
>tomorrow is gonna be 27c outside
>apartment is gonna be 30+
>all I have is 2 pillar fans and a box fan in the bedroom
Fuck my life

>>212079563
my 4k monitor i bought in 2017 was ~1200 shekels. most common ACs are 900-1400 shekels and including shipping+installation it's 1500-1900 shekels
equivilent of 400-500 euros

>>212079819

>>212079700
if landlords don't allow you to install AC units, while summers get hotter and hotter, you truly need maoism, or maybe even juche.

>if it's professionally done
you definitely need to hire someone to do it, otherwise you could fuck the coupling

>>212079819
put on a regular, non portable ac
it's the most non-brainer thing to put your money in after food and clothes like wtf are you waiting for

>>212079887
Brother, my landlord will not allow it.
It would take some serious drilling and construction to get AC installed on reinforced thick concrete walls with a stone cover outside.

>>212079819
>>windows are inward leaning type so can't even use a portable ac unit

portable AC units are a scam, don't ever buy them

>>212079693
exhibit A the pooropean doesn't understand what freedom of speech even is

good part about insulated houses is you can get a smaller A/C and run it for much less time.
the walls are thick and the air inside won't snap back to outside reality in 2 minutes like the plywood houses of Tornado Alley.

>>212079924
Why don't you build your own house, why live like a cuck?

>>212079819
>rooftop apartment
Kinda glad I live in a basement apartment.
Always cool down here.

>>212079987
>Why don't you build your own house
I work as a cleaner anon. My budget is zero.
>why live like a cuck
The Swedish way. At least I am not alone in this country.

>>212079924
my house is thick concrete with outside stone cover and it took em like 2h to finish the whole thing inside + outside.

your landlord is retarded, personally i wouldnt even consider an apartment without ac to rent. i guess this is why portable acs exist to real with retards like this

>>212079973
Exhibit these nuts, I don't understand it because it's a meme. Looking at america, thats the first thing i heard, freedom this freedom that. But what freedom? You cannot say nigger without getting shot by an african. So there you go, nigger = word, words tend to be required for speech.. You will get shot if you speak, this kind of shit is only rivaled in North Korea.

why are people shitting on portable ACs ITT? they're not as efficient as window units but they're still great in a pinch. my central AC was dead for a week earlier this month and the only reason I didn't burn to death was I bought a 10000BTU for like $400 that kept my bedroom somewhat tolerable like 78f when the rest of the house was 90. even after my AC was fixed I've kept it to cool a part of my house where the AC doesn't reach and it's worked great.

>>212080042
>budget zero
Can't you save bit by bit and build yourself a nice little house far from the expensive cities? You don't have to be popular and live in the fancy city anon, but you can live like a real man, instead of those cucks that struggle with extortion in city.

>>212079005
You just got cheated by Chinese and Koreans.
This type of AC is limited to "30m2" at best, which is the most you can comfortably do.
But it is better than nothing.
Also, the insulation of the pipe itself and the way it exhausts the heat will make a big difference.

>>212079924
this>>212078005

>>212080053
To be fair, most apartments and homes here were built long before AC was even needed.
Summers are much hotter now and it's too late.
Maybe 1 in 500 apartments have AC (and I am being generous now) because most places were built in the 60's, 70's and 80's. That's like 80% of Swedish apartments.
And our landlords aren't like a single dude owning a bunch of apartments.
It's all mega-corpos owning thousands, sometimes tens of thousands of apartments and entire blocks like Heimstaden, Balder, SBB, Hyresbostäder and Svenska Bostäder.
I rent via Svenska Bostäder and they own over 50 000 apartments in Sweden that they rent out.
They have very strict rules when it comes to home modifications. You have to ask for permission if you want to paint the walls...
From their own rules on the website "du får måla om i din lägenhet hos Svenska Bostäder, så länge det utförs fackmannamässigt och med godkända färger" (You can repaint your apartment at Svenska Bostäder, as long as it is done professionally by Swedish standards and with approved colors)...

>>212079005
You just got cheated by Chinese and Koreans.
This type of AC is limited to "30m2" at best, which is the most you can comfortably do.
But it is better than nothing.
Also, the insulation of the pipe itself and the way it exhausts the heat will make a big difference.

>>212079924
this>>212078005

>>212079819
post the window, they probably make something for it

>>212080267
are these common in japan

>>212080276
Standard top in window. I have looked but found nothing.

>>212077587
heat pump doubles as ac, just sayin.
you need one? daikin moskus, installed for 20 000 sek or the equal in beer and snus. special price only for you...

>>212077529 (OP)
Buy a portable one.
I have one on the bedroom and living room.
Sure it adds a little on the electrical bill but it's worth it.
>>212080142
This. Saves my ass now during summer.

>>212079819
do you have a water meter? if not use tap water, either to cool down the ac condenser or straight through a fancoil. an old car radiator or simmilar might even work.

>>212079975
my workplace has shitty cheap walls and without ac it gets absolutely unbearable a few hours after the sun appears
meanwhile at home, i sit in a room with windows facing south, but the walls are thick and built from stone, so i don't even have to turn on a fan to stay comfortable; the difference is enormous

>>212080202
>Can't you save bit by bit and build yourself a nice little house far from the expensive cities?
The house part is no problem. I could probably save up and buy one of those pre-fab homes for €90k.
Problem is the land. Taking out a loan to buy a home is easy. Taking out a loan to buy land is far more complicated (for some retarded reason). And then there's building permits, costs for sewage, water, electricity, internet and registration.
That's why most people buy old homes with all of that done here.
But I can't commute long either since I am not allowed to drive (epilepsy)..

I'm just fucked.

>>212080301
About 40 years ago, many types were mounted on windows, but few are available today.
They are used by people whose rent is like $100/month .
but recently they are becoming more popular for garages and in areas in the north where AC was not needed before.

>>212078122
>In Germany

>>212080428
I'm confused, did you reply to the wrong anon or am I just dumb?

>>212080488
still have or used to have epilepsy?
im the latter and it was a struggle, moppe license at 16, full medical check, car license at 18, full medical check, army at 19, now my specialust doctor had died so the army doctor just reviewed my two last cases and deleted the note that i had once had epilepsy from my record for good. the rule here is 5 years without seizures and you are deemed fit to drive. most like me and i knew a few others as well grew out of it but its always a risk it can return with an unhealthy lifestyle, drug abuse particulary worsen it.

>>212080545
no it was to you. you have unlimited supply of cooling fluid in your tap, as long as you dont have to pay for it.

>>212080532
>Window-mounted AC

>>212080706
I have "repetitive cluster seizures" even on medication with are small tremors, muscle jerks and muscle cramps several times per day. I am banned from driving completely since i was diagnosed in 2013.
Without medication I have grand mal seizures.Though I still get those randomly once or twice per year.
Cracked two of my teeth last year during one.

>>212080428
I do have a water meter unfortunately and those stupid economy filters in my taps so my water pressure is absolute ass..

>>212080953
>those stupid economy filters in my taps
You can remove them yourself broder. I did that in my apartment. Just unscrew the tip, look underneath and there will be a metal mesh filter thing you can rip out.
Did that in my kitchen and bathroom taps plus the shower.

Pressure went from zero to power washer.

>>212080308
Just use this to convert to a smaller hose.

Got a heat pump last year for 4800€. I'm comfy between 19 and 27 degrees so I'm not using it much. Above 30 is a lil high though