Thread 212132095

Happens in your country?

>>212132095 (OP)
I will never get over the fact people out there think communism is good when it has consistently failed during the last one hundred years and when communist countries have millions of refigees warning about its dangers.

>>212132095 (OP)
>show this video to Zohran
Why?

>>212132154
We live in a culture now that worships losers and failure.

>>212132168
He's the New York City mayor who's a communist wanting to raise the minimum wage and give child care to pooroids for free.

ZOHRAN MUST NOT SUCCEED
IF HE DOES COMMUNISM WILL SPREAD ALL OVER THE WORLD

>>212132223
We were warned about this back in 2008... Why didn't we listen?

>>212132178
No we don't.

>>212132185
Damn, have the Americans lynched that vile communist for having such poisonous ideas?

>>212132178
Name one loser who is worshiped and celebrated

>>212132185
noooooooo
but what about israel?

>>212132440
The guy you replied to.

>>212132095 (OP)
I HATE LATIN AMERICAN LEFTISTS TO DEATH

>>212132185
That also wants to give tens of billions to trannies, kick out the productive class from NYC, create a patchwork of inherited and rent-controlled fiefdoms, and defund the police so that they won't arrest the violent nogs and browns playing the knock-out game on white women.

>>212132279
NOOOOOOO NOB DE BURGERS

>>212132154
Millions go without food despite all the excess and then tons of it get thrown out. It isn't working it's an illusion.

>>212132440
Palestine

>>212132185
>raise the minimum wage and give child care to pooroids for free
the horror...

>>212132440
trump

>>212132440
women

>>212135582
in fact, women being worshiped and celebrated and given unearned privileges despite their near-universal inferiority is the heart of leftist "participation trophy" loser culture.

>>212134767
Maybe we shouldnt take care of every human being

>>212132154
>buh buh buh rich people bad!!!!

>>212135628
yeah, we must protect the billionaires instead. heaven forbid they lost their fifth yacht so social programs to support the poor getting basic necessities could exist

>>212132154
most first world countries have some socialist policies
what is this retarded logic that anything socialist automatically means communism

>>212135743

No billionaire has ever harassed or demanded things from me. Endless poor people have. We've been fighting the wrong ghost.

>>212134767
Maybe if you can't feed 10 kids you shouldn't have 10 kids?

>>212132095 (OP)
We have markets like this but majority of the population still eats from the landfill and has lower development index and living standards than Cuba.

>>212134767
That's a choice

>>212135796
so what is the solution? murder all the poor people? even if you think that's a genuine solution it could never actually happen in real life without some massive cultural shift

the solution to poor people begging is... to ensure every citizen in a country has basic necessities so they don't need to beg on a street

>>212135908
Get raped by a pack of niggers, commie faggot.

>>212135796
you are clueless. hope blackrock sees this

>>212135796
>We've been fighting the wrong ghost.
Americans are bizarre

>>212135954
your country is even less relevant than mine, which is pretty embarrassing considering i'm a leaf. go fuck a wallaby or something mate, nobody cares about the opinion of an aussie

>>212135908
chronically poor people deserve their circumstances. the solution is to cut welfare and let people who literally can't even feed themselves die out as nature intended, and stop allowing them to destroy our gene pool. this is not mutually exclusive with fighting against corruption and exploitation, and limiting the ability of the top few % to parasitically hoard wealth to the detriment of all society.

>>212136063
I repeat:
Get raped by a pack of niggers, commie faggot.

>>212135796
Billionaires demand more from you than any beggar on the street ever has. And you've given it to them, you're a fucking moron

>>212136213
seethe more

>>212132440
>>212135582
>>212135621
This

>>212132154
there are way more people living under capitalism than communism Tho. and most people is extremely poor.

>>212136351
Most people "is" extremely stupid, too. No it is poor in America who doesn't choose to be. You have every opportunity

>>212132095 (OP)
>>212132123
Uh, he didn't buy anything.

>>212135908
But that's what doctors in your country are doing

>>212136398
If anything the fact that Americans are still by far the richest ppl in the world despite being mostly extremely uneducated and financially literate proves that the current system is not really meritocratic

Utterly retarded thread. Of course theres scarcity in Cuba, it's a small island that's sanctioned to hell and back, and breaking US sanctions get you sanctioned with them. The US has never forgiven them for ousting their heckin based dictator.

>>212132154
Because communists are only useful as an opposition, since the red scare helps with more laws for workers rights and helps to keep CEOs from going full sociopaths.
They should never take power tho, because they only know rethoric and dont understand a flying fuck about the economy or how to handle industries. Very very few of them are smart enough to not get totally radicalized by their dogmas (like the ex Uruguay president José Mujica) but they end up being labelled as traitors because among those people it's always a race about being the "purest" ( = "the most radical").

>>212136586
But it is. It's only that even low achievers dare well in American abundance.

>>212134767
famines have slowly gone from "major source of human death" to something that only ever happens to war thorn shitholes in Africa, and the most brutal famines of the last century happened once communists tried to manage food production

I see lots of commies saying "well if you count famine deaths of communism I'll count every single death of capitalism"
but capitalism isn't about centrally planning and overseeing every aspect of food and goods production like socialism is, and if anything, the more capitalist and less commie the world has become, the fewer starvation deaths we have

>>212132095 (OP)
Let's see how communist Cuba does when America lifts all thier sanctions

>>212136720
>dare
*fare

>>212132095 (OP)
Damn... A country under embargo doesn't have the same shit as a country trading with the entire world.

>>212136954
Damn... why do Cuba refuse to trade with the other successfull commie countries?

>>212132154
china is communist and it's better than this piece of shit whore country

>>212136639
The US embargo does not include food and medicine and the US does not sanction any nation for trading with Cuba. Spain is their biggest trading partner and it’s not like we’re threatening them over it.

You are a retard repeating lies you saw on Instagram/TikTok Tok

>>212132095 (OP)
That nigga can dress

>>212136820
>>212136954
See
>>212137491

>>212136791
To have an honest discussion, first we have to agree to certain definitions, and if you ask them about what is capitalism for them then they will mainly give a generic answers such as "A system which exploits its workers for profit and in order to individualistically accumulate resources". I'd like to know an instance when you dont use the workforce to gain a profit, it is essential in order to have an economy in the first place, even the communist countries had an internal one and had to trade with other nations. It is insane to think you can achieve to live in a society where everybody does its job just for the sake of contributing, go try to convince people to do a shitty 9-5 job where you assemble mechanical pieces in a factory, let alone the ones that inevitably require longer hours to keep up with the quality level of the product or service offered. Maybe you can achieve that in a dystopian society where you are 1)forced to work and 2)forced to do a specific one, therefore inevitably an extremely authoritarian one. It will never work on a big scale, maybe in small communities and communes, but you will always have to depend on the big industries outside for certain equipment and services if you dont want to abandon technological progress.
I'd also like to know an instance when you dont have to accumulate resources and inevitably reinvest them, it is the basis of progress and we've been doing it since the dawn of civilization, and it happens even communist states but the difference is that it's the state itself doing it instead of the private citizen, and it proved to do it very inefficently judging how free market and competition provided better services and products compared the communist countries during cold war.
The moment you switch to having a state with full control then productivity decrease, everything is less efficient, corruption and nepotism skyrockets, and you end up having worse quality of life just for sake of owning the rich.

>>212137636
I read non of that but I agree wholeheartedly, cheers

>>212137636
Therefore the only reasonable approach is a free market with a state who plays the role of a referee, give you the freedom to open a business but sets rules that dont make you abuse the position of power you acquire on the workplace and by elevating your economic status.

holy fuck anticommunists are stupid

>>212137491
Even without an embargo on food and medicin, the economic consequences from an embargo will impact a country and their economy, and especially their ability to have grocery chains full of luxury produce.
While the US doesn't sanction people for trading with Cuba, they do put political pressure on them.

>>212136820
>>212136954
why are euroid teenagers like this?

>>212137388
>china is communist
meme.

>>212137936
for an embargo'd country, they sure like to build new docks
you can even larp as an intelligence analyst and count how many trains and ships come and go between pictures to estimate their trade, or measure the surface area occupied by containers and silos, then compare it to countries of similar size/population and all that

>>212138095
That is literally nothing.

>>212132185
oh my
the horror
think of the Jews and the bankers

>>212137388
China is basically National Socialist

>>212138231
what's the correct number of docks and terminals you'd expect an embargoed country to build, roughly?

>>212132095 (OP)
>>212132154
retards conflating communism and socialism irk me to no end
worse are the "people" doing it on purpose to perpetuate their unfair system