Thread 212162834

>The difference in standard of living between Taiwan and China is equal to that between Canada and Mexico
WTF? HOW

the nationalists bought a lot of capital and smart people when they fled

why don’t they just reunify?

>>212162954
>Why don't they want to join and become a part of a poor third world dictatorship instead of staying a free and wealthy nation
Why don't you region with Argentina?

>>212162954
>Don't want to become poor like China
>Don't want to become a dictatorship like China
>When China retook Tibet they murdered literally 18% of the population
>We can look at how bad they treat Hong Kong
>The CCP is completely incompetent
>Ect

>>212163024
>>212163067
ok and aside from glownigger propaganda whats the reason?

>>212163106
The fact that China is a third world dictatorship and Taiwan wants to stay free and first world.

>>212163106
>State facts
>Chink seethes

>>212163149
you’d know about third world dictatorships I suppose

>>212163190
Yes I would. I have worked in China many times.

>>212163190
Chink hyper sensativity

>>212163190
>>212163106
>>212162954
Why are (you) like this?

>>212163236
>>212163243
>seething because nothing happened in hong kong
>noooooooo it’s going to happen to taiwan I swear, two more weeks!!

>>212162954
I know there are some russian bootlickers in Italy, just a bit surprised to see a chinese one.

>>212163315
Hong Kong used to be a democracy with freedom of speech. Now it's economic growth has stagnated and it's a dictatorship just like the rest of China without any freedom.
Nice cope Chang

Italian Chang. Does he eat his pasta with chop sticks?

mainland china will break apart again like it has done for millenia and its likely due to happen because of real china (taiwan)

>>212163372
Probably due to it's low as fuck birth rate. When that happens there will be millions of single young female chinese refugees that Taiwan will gobble up fixing their demographic problems but making China's even worse.

>>212163354
>lies
>american flag
ok glowie, you’re doing a good job

China is a modern empire rather than a nation-state. If you've read its history you'll know that Taiwan only became part of a unified China during the Qing Dynasty. For majority of its history, Taiwan was a separate entity.

>>212163372
nothin will ever happen

>>212162954
>reunify
Taiwan has never been unified with communist China

>>212164922
is “communist China” copespeak for just China?

China is a transitional capitalist country. Meaning, it still retains elements of socialism within.

In order for the chinese bourgeoisie to kick-start capitalism, they needed to pauperize the working class and its conquests. This is a process in the making, unlike Taiwan, that has already become a fully capitalist nation.

A more just comparision would be to compare XXth China and Taiwan, when one was adopting liberal-capitalism (Taiwan) and the other (China) had a non-capitalist State.

>>212162834 (OP)
>WTF? HOW
the Nationalists stole literally everything that wasn't nailed down when they fled, then killed half the poor people in Taiwan, then got given infinite free money from the US to develop

The CIA made Taiwan not want to reunify with China o algo

>>212166154
>tf

China is a paper tiger. They cant even keep their infrasctructure in check and they use ocean-sand in construction to save money.And they build building in other countries like this that kill people too. Gutter oil is vert prevelent, their society is very low trust and stuff like theft and child abduction is rampant. They overfish other countries, list is long..

>>212162834 (OP)
According to what, to pointlesa gdp numbers? The cost of living in Taiwan is higher than China. And in China you can find different city tiers

>>212166242
yeah how unbelievable, good old US of A would never meddle in other nations’ business.

>>212162834 (OP)
Of course it's going to be different, one is a massive country, the other is an island

Taiwan gets to enjoy pride just like the rest of the developed world with lots of white people joining in.

>>212169273
>everyone is timmy
I’m not even anti gay but this picture is pretty funny

>>212163410
Ching Chong damage control is pathetic

>>212165008
>>212163410
>>212168718
>>212169427
Ching chong ping pong ling long ting song poop mong

>>212164922
nvke

>>212162834 (OP)
And the difference between Shenzen or Hongkong standard of living compared to Taipei is?
What's your point seriously, are you actually retarded, if you wanted to compare actual progress just compare Taiwan to a single Chinese coastal province, comparing countries is completely unfair

>>212166154
Now post reality

>>212170430
Literally the best parts of China get mogged by Taiwan. How shameful. China is asshole

>>212170430
Chinks be like
>China is a third world shithole but also it has horrible economic inequality so we win!

>>212163106
China will likely relocate Taiwanese people to tier 3/4 shitholes to boost local economy out of pettiness. Taiwan will be flooded with propagandist to ensure value alignment.

>>212169427
China on the otherhand
BTW this is 8% of the entire male population.

Chinese insecurity about Taiwan is always hilarious

>>212170476
Was gonna respond with something but judging by the amount of posts you've made.
You clearly have an agenda and is mentally unwell, think this is the third time I've seen this same thread since the beginning of the year. Take some meds ang etc help, godspeed fatty

>>212170456
>>212170430
Chink cherrypicking argument is so funny.
By that logic Russia is better than Finland because 1% of Russia is almost as good as the Finland average

>>212170663
You lost just like how the Chinese lost to Vietnam last time they fought. You are a loser Chang

>>212168596
PPP takes into account cost of living. Even with cost of living differences Taiwanese earn nearly 4 times Chinese. Really shameful

>>212170501
>fearmongering this hard
the American playbook is so fucking predictable it’s crazy, next you will claim Chinese communists chop up children or something equally as schizoid, it’s so tiresome.

I've been to ROC and PROC. In countryside towns in China the standard of living is worse than Taipei. However, in places like Shangai the standard of living is much higher than Taipei. Given the population of China its pointless trying to compare national averages.

>>212170880
see >>212170456
Nice try Chang

>>212170850
>No don't use China's past history to determine what they will do in the future!

>>212170880
>Shanghai standard of living 0.892
>Taiwan Standard of living 0.926
Crazy that CHina's best city get's fucking mogged like this

>>212171008
even if it was true
>obliterates his own regional cultures, including dialects
>but it’s only bad when China does it
you do not have any higher moral standard to speak

>>212171084
>What about!
Ching Chong

>>212171084
QIng ling ping sing ping pong poop ting?

>>212163106
Taiwan is the American proxy that serves as base close to China, chip source and meat shield that will soak up most of the missiles and other Chinese weaponry and resources. Unlike Japan it's existence is entirely dependant on American support since without it it would have been taken long ago, as it is China's national, cultural and political goal to reunify Chinese territories.
It also used to serve as a "legitimate" Chinese government should mainland fall into chaos so Kuomintang could retake it's control and have a west-friendly China but as CCP solidified it's control and rapidly advanced as a nation that became an impossiblity.

>>212163106
Would you like to live in the current Libia? If not, what makes you think a taiwanese would like to lower their living standards?

>>212171171
>Serves as abase close to China
America is putting US soldiers in Taiwan?
BASED

>>212171188
according to which retarded logic are standards of living going to be lower in case of reunification? did western german living standards drop after reunification? don’t think so

>>212171225
I mean there pretty much is one in Kinmen unofficially. Chinks were having a full breakdown over it a year ago. They said if the US doesn't take soldiers out of Kinmen their will be hell to pay. Then China did nothing and America continues to put in more soldiers.

>>212171265
>Why does joining a third world dystopia turn you into a third world dystopia?
Ching Chong

>>212171265
ling long sing song poop tong sing ma long?

>>212171171
and yet american flags ITT will act like innocent idiots with no stake in it, never trust the eternal warmongering yank.

>>212171336
ping pong ling long que le dong

>>212171313
>le dystopia
this is so fucking cringe lmao, good lapdog keep shining those yank boots.

Taiwan will never be a part of the PRC no matter how much their seething diaspora seethe at it.

>>212171372
When China is such a shithole you flee to Italy and get cucked by BWC

glowniggers in full shitpost mode, I’m actually having a chuckle so keep going

>"Why doesn't Taiwan want to be a part of China!"
>Coming from Chang that himself fled China

>>212171426
China is such a shithole you refuse to move back there.

No matter how much changy cries Taiwan will continue to be free and China will continue to be third world.

>>212171448
we’re reaching Mark Rutteesque levels of american dicksucking, congratulations.

Remember when it was common knowledge that the chinese murdered their newborn infant daughters in hope to get a male child at the next try and comply with the one child policy. I remember, inhuman freaks

>>212171520
Ching chong ping pong ling long

>>212171538
This still happens.
>As of 2022 for every 10 male babies born only 9 females are born

Chinese are obsessed with Taiwan
Taiwanese are obsessed with Japan

We want what we can't have

Any Taiwanese pipo around? How bad is Taoyuan for living? Seems kinda shitty on Google street view.

>>212162954
Taiwan to this day claims the entirety of the PRC, but they'd have us believe the losers are the PRC.

What's hilarious is that nowadays there are some in Taiwan that are seeking independence, but they can't do it because China has promised intervention the moment Taiwan stops claiming the PRC.
Meaning Taiwan literally is forced to pretend they want unification.

>>212170760
GDP PPP is also not that useful when comparing 2 different countries, as the GDP formula is flawed per se. See Ireland, they became a tax haven and attracted lots of foreign companies, which almost doubled their GDP in 10 years, but the average person didn't see their purchasing power change
Taiwan has one of the highest real estate prices in Asia, so most of the income goes to housing.
https://www.investasian.com/property-investment/taiwan-real-estate

>>212171075
>meme numbers
Next time you will bring up freedom index

>>212172377
https://www.numbeo.com/property-investment/rankings_by_country.jsp

Chink cope.
Get BTFO

>>212172307
Considering China is third world and Taiwan is first world, yes they are the winners.

>>212172424
>>212172377
China such shithole you no want live there

Ching Chong China so good even though I no want live in China

>>212172447
I guess if we use the logic that balkanization of China would "own Taiwan"
Much of China is still developing, much of China beats Taiwan, so the PRC averages out.
The richest cities of China beat Taiwan anyday.

>>212162954
They would unify once the CCP leave the office

Ching Chong Taiwan no good even though they rich and I poor and they free and I slave and work 6 day week

>>212172525
This chink cope already got BTFO. You bots literally just repeat lies over and over again.

>>212172525
See >>212170456
nice cope. But you got BTFO

>>212172429
>posting meme indexes again
>shows how they have the same price to income ratio, which literally proves my point
Nice try

why do so many people seethe at china here. Whenever i look stuff up about whats going on over there its nothing but positive stuff.

China so good because have much economic inequality. TAKE THAT TAIWAN

>>212172588
Why do all Chinks seethe at Taiwan here?

>>212172474
>>212172510
>>212172543
>>212172563
>>212172593
Alex Meacham go get a life

China so good I no want live China

>>212162954
As hong-kongans

>>212172558
>>212172563
Right, it's the China bots who are this coordinated and emotional.

>>212172651
ling ching ping ling sing

>>212172576
Ching Chong facts don't matter when China says

>>212172588
some europeans really feel the duty to protect american foreign policy assets and put their dignity on the line. it’s quite the shitshow, especially considering Europe keeps losing out by aligning with the US and its decayed, violent, and corrupt ways of doing foreign policy.

>>212172588
Because amerimutts literally spend $300M in anti China propaganda. Why do you think Alex spends 24/7 spamming china webms in 4chan?
>>212172672
>newspaper article with no sources vs actual bill
Alex please

>>212172602
>He doesn't have a chinpunk folder

>>212172712
YOU MUST LIKE THIRD WORLD CHINA

>>212172672
USA expended x5 that on USAID alone

WHY TAIWAN NO WANT BE POOR SHITHOLE LIKE CHINA?

Ni hao
wo keyi chi ni de ji ma? Wo Xihuan bairen Ji

Taiwan bad even though I wish I live Taiwan

FUCK YOU CHINA NUMBER 1 (I no want live there)

>>212172672
how much has America spent in actual armed conflicts and aggressions? you’ve been at it since the 50’s and haven’t changed one bit. I’ll take soft power moves over war.

>>212172865
No, you are supposed to die for Israel

>>212172865
How much Chinese women spend on BWC?

>>212163618
Problem being that when communism took over China, millions of chinks moved to Taiwan and Taiwan natives are now 8% of the population.

we posting chinese webms now

>>212172588
China is a weird place. Its development outpaced its culture. There are some very comfy T1 and even T2 cities with some amazing infrastructure that surely has to be the best in the world, but the people often act like third world savages. Constantly cutting in lines, littering, smoking in your face, talking and yelling loudly across the street, disobeying all traffic laws. There is also no criticism of the government allowed, especially by a foreigner. Even saying something like "I like Japanese food more than Chinese food" will make people seethe uncontrollably. If you don't mind this type of culture then it's not a bad place to live, but there is a reason why you see people fighting to live in Korea and Japan and not China. Taiwan is a lot more laidback even if it is not as flashy as the T1 cities and you make less money. You can really feel the difference in mindset and lifestyle.

t. lived in Yunnan for a year, couldn't handle it

STOP LIKE TAIWAN
YOU LIKE CHINA NAO

>>212172588
You're looking at propaganda then. Chinese complain about plenty of things. Overall though it is pretty good and two more weeks doomers are also retarded.

CHINA GOOD
YOU SHILL NOT I
YOU

WHY YOU POST FACT SAY CHINA BAD AN TAIWAN GOOD?
CCP SAY TAIWAN BAD AND CHINA GOOD
CCP MORE IMPORTANT THAN FACT

>>212172928
>t. lived in Yunnan for a year, couldn't handle it
Yunnan is one of the poorest chinese provinces with lots of non ethnic chinese han

Every Chink cope
>Facts and numbers that make China look bad and Taiwan look good are fake
>Unlike China's proven made up GDP stats
>China has extreme income inequality which means China wins because the top 1% of Chinese can live almost as well as Taiwanese
>What about America?
>Yeah but Taiwan has gay marriage!

>>212173073
All of China is poor. It's why you no longer live there.

Try not to seethe at Taiwan challenge. (Impossible if Chinese)

>>212173094
So since London is majority non-white, does that mean the entire Uk is non-white?

>>212173185
All of China is poor. Your cope doesn't work.

>>212173225
You are Indian. Your cope doesn't work

>>212173251
Ching Chong ping pong

>>212173073
I still had plenty of time to visit other provinces and big cities. The only city that I would say felt "first world" in terms of culture is Shanghai. People in Shanghai are friendly and have good manners. Everywhere else it feels like an every man for himself type mindset. Even dating in China is just depressing because the women are extremely materialistic and want to marry within months of meeting. Not because they love you, but because you make more than 25k rmb which is considered husband worthy. There is a lot of propaganda against China but there is just as much propaganda on the other side too. The CCP has been pushing very hard lately on rebranding China to be "cool" and influencer friendly. There are things to like about China but the culture and people are hard to live with.

>>212173301
When China is such a shithole he refuses to move back

>>212171265
East Germany wasn’t much, much bigger and more important than West Germany.

Remember that supporting the ROC is like supporting the Confederates . Only losers stand with losers.

>>212173400
This would be like if the Confederates became independent and because first world while the US stayed a third world shithole

>>212173400
This isn't the days of Chiang Kai Shek. Taiwan is the progressive democracy while China is the dictatorship. If you think the ROC is the "chud" state because they were founded by the KMT then you're a dumbass.

I got Bingo. That is all I wanted to say

>>212173489
The democrats have a rich history of ties with the KKK and supported slavery and were dismayed by desegregation in the south. A leopard can never remove it's spots, only change them. Taiwan is for the oligarchs and woke western imperialists; The CCP is for the people.

>>212171265
Hong Kong citizens lost a lot of rights when they got reunited with China. They had a lot of protests which didn't do much. Taiwanese people will be worse off without independence.

>>212173651
*Kills 65 million people

Sacrifices well made for the greater good

>>212173651
Based democrats
Based KMT

>>212173651
All of what you just said is retarded nonsense. The Taiwanese government doesn't genocide anyone, can the CCP say the same in good faith? Of course not.

>>212163106
Are you the italian Zigger?

>What is white terror
https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2019/03/08/2003711057

That time China murdered 15% of their entire population?
Good times

>>212172928
You can see this phenomenon on their social media.
>Douyin of Japan's scenery
>Comments seething and coping about patriotism

>>212173313
what's going on in this .webm?

>>212174056
He starts shitting himself and they can smell it

>>212173961
You can ask Deepseek about the JQ, not tiananmen.
You can ask GPT about tiananmen, not the JQ

>>212162834 (OP)
i doubt there's much difference in living between jiangsu or zhejiang and taiwan

>>212174181
see >>212170456

>>212172928
The Chinese are not self-critical of retarded thirdie behavior, they just pretend it doesn't exist. That's why you have people with first world infrastructure letting their kids shit everywhere and hocking loogies every 5 minutes

>>212174181
Why do Chang bots just keep repeating the same shit like 10 times a thread? Does it actually work even after it gets disproven every time?

>>212173630
where’s the box where americans seethe and spam ching chong all over the thread?

>>212173852
no, fuck Russia, even more neanderthal than america.

>>212174480
>What about America
Based. Another step closer to bingo

>>212162954
For the same reason why canada wouldn't want to be a part of mexico?