Thread 212210759

Why the FUCK do europeans love Ljubljana so much?
How the FUCK do you pronounce Ljubljana
Why the FUCK does Italy own Trieste

>>212210759 (OP)
If there were a great tech company I would move to the city. I think it's just a perfect city

>>212210759 (OP)
>Why the FUCK does Italy own Trieste
it's always been italian majority there are several documents and censuses from the 1500's to attest that.
t.i live in Trieste

Trieste is a really creepy city, they should set a horror movie there, it has a creepy early Dario Argento movie vibe for some reason

>>212210872
>several documents and censuses from the 1500's to attest that.
the majority might have spoken Italian but they were of Slavic ethnic origin, simply Italian was the official language so if a Slav wanted to live in the city he had to embrace the Italian language as his own

but the outskirts, farmers, working class etc were majority Slavic-speaking all the way until WW2

>>212210901
Sounds good, I will now visit Trieste

>>212210759 (OP)
>Why the FUCK do europeans love Ljubljana so much?
It's a very cozy, beautiful city that exhibits the features of a typical European historical town with still mostly ethnically European population

>How the FUCK do you pronounce Ljubljana

L'ubl'ana

liubliana

>>212210759 (OP)
lee-oob-lee-ana but say it real fast

Not giving Trieste to Yugoslavia was the biggest mistake of the Allied Powers, we could have avoided brutal oppression of Italians in other parts of Yugoslavia + there wouldn't have been Balkan wars

Also imagine this catchy music from every Trieste street:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr1Xng9kYiI

>>212210759 (OP)
lyub-lyan-unh

>>212210759 (OP)
>Ljubljana
It's clean, orderly, safe, less non-europeans than western cities
>Trieste
Italian speakers in Istria had a tendency to live and concentrate in coastal towns so Trieste ended up being majority Italian despite also having a ton of Slovenian speakers

>>212211023
>>212211167
Yugoslavians lost, it's time to move on

>>212210759 (OP)
>How the FUCK do you pronounce Ljubljana
exactly as it is written
it's not a problem unless you're an anglo

>>212212041
Yugoslavia still lives in my heart

I've been there. Twice.
Nothing to do. Nothing to see. Nothing happens.
Climbing to the castles smells like piss all the way up.

slovenia is meh and for old people
croatia is hip and cool

>>212210759 (OP)
>How the FUCK do you pronounce Ljubljana
La-jewb-uh-la-jana

>>212210759 (OP)
It’s nice

If Slovenia owned Klagenfurt and Trieste they'd be the most kino country in Europe by far

>>212210759 (OP)
lube lah nah

>>212210759 (OP)
>How the FUCK do you pronounce Ljubljana
Just replace Js with Ys

>>212212041
open a ww2 historybook lol

>>212211023
Austria owned Trieste for 700 years

>>212210759 (OP)
home

>>212214258
Worse.

Italy should have Fiume

>>212210872
>t.i live in Trieste
Anch'io

>>212214406
Hello

>>212210759 (OP)
Thinly veiled vpn slovenian post
>>212211023
Theres no point in talking about dna of border peoples you stupid poletard nigger, go back to your containment board

>>212214490
I meant /pol/tard not pole. But yeah

>>212210759 (OP)
Once comfy, now a shithole

Italy should rule from the Alps to the Aegean and from Rome to Constantinople.

Germany shouldn't control the areas circled in red. They belong to the Netherlands

>>212214585
'em

>>212212232
Americans not being able to pronounce consonant clusters never gets old.

>>212210759 (OP)
>How the FUCK do you pronounce Ljubljana
*SNIFF* Ljubljana

Croatian history be like
>Eugen Klještić takes power
>millions perish in concentration camps
Slovenian history be like:
>Count Baron Kaiser Hans Beispieler von Mitteleinzigeheimatplatz Dortmundgastarbeiter marries half sister Špela Močiglubnispočnibor Zveznijanezovihribnikzubnikpogačar triggering a pond fishing dispute between King Umberto Sudtiroletti Friuloni Furlani Frigorifero Adriatico and suicidal Romantic poet Primož Hochenkuchen Babnik von Vulvasor establishing the Grand Duchy of Novi Babji Zob a tax haven with a population of 1

>>212215743
King Umberto is in the right here

>>212215743
Based

>>212215743
actually i am kinda curious what "historyless" nations learn about at their history classes

let's assume you have 7-8 grades in a primary school in Slovenia, probably 2 history classes per week, how tf can you fill all that time with Slovene history, if it can be easily condensed into a max 2 hour long lecture?

>>212216191
Half of history class focuses on various empires Slovenia was part of and roles of Slovenes in those societies, and the other half on just general global history

>>212216191
My guess is they teach European history and then just briefly mention what the Slovene Lands were doing at a given time

>>212216294
>focuses on various empires Slovenia was part of and roles of Slovenes in those societies
do you even have enough sources for that? Slovenes were mostly peasants afaik, these people didn't write too much and their life wasn't widely discussed and written down either. What can you even discuss about the role of Slovenes in 16th century Austria if probably there is not a single written source that mentions any Slovene person and his achievements or even just daily life, that was the same like the daily life of every European peasant - that's why history classes are mostly about the history of elites - but in case of Slovenia you didn't have these elites

>>212215743
One thing I really like about the Croatian Wikipedia is that Eugen Klještić's article is longer than Jesus Christ's
https://hr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugen_Klje%C5%A1ti%C4%87
https://hr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isus

>>212216406
>Slovenes were mostly peasants afaik, these people didn't write too much and their life wasn't widely discussed and written down either
They had 5 peasant revolts. They shared one of them with us (the Croatian-Slovene Peasant Revolt of 1573)

>>212216469
I can't be surprised Tito became who he became, you just HAVE TO become a communist if all what your school teaches you is "we were peasants and we revolted against our masters"

>>212216406
You're right, there aren't many sources so it's often just a brief mention based on educated guesswork, but they teach us what little they can. People here aren't under some delusion of us having great history, you can say what you want about us but at least we are levelheaded when it comes to that unlike some other nations with their fabricated larp histories
>>212216469
This is one of the two biggest focuses of our history classes when it comes to actual Slovene history, the other one being protestantism which lead to a first book in our language

>>212216529
You are the biggest cretin on this board

>>212216549
>with their fabricated larp histories
uhhhhh you mean the set of books I paid $200 for...they aren't true???

>>212210759 (OP)
Trst je naš (Italia)

>>212216529
lol

>>212216549
>the other one being protestantism which lead to a first book in our language
do you wish Slovenes had become a protestant nation?

btw, Slovene history is interesting to me not just because of its historical events one by one but just the whole fact...that Slovenes exist. It's kinda unbelievable that an area that was always part of Austria, resisted germanization almost completely, "losing" to Germans only the northernmost strip (Klagenfurt), while so many areas the Germans merely occupied or owned for a much shorter period of time in eastern Europe were germanized to the ground or at least Germans tried to germanize them with fire and sword.

>>212216558
any proofs to corroborate your claim?

>>212216789
Probably because the Austrians acted as feudal lords until the late 1800's

>>212216889
afaik Austrians did try forced germanization in various periods of time (especially during Joseph II) just they were rather ineffective comparing to Prussians (desu that applies to pretty much every kind of comparison between Austrians and Prussians)

>>212216935
Which was ineffective because things weren't centralized

>>212214421
anch'io vivevo a trieste

>>212217195
grande, quanto hai fatto di refurtiva?

>>212212041
Then why is the west coast of Istria (never majority Slavic before WW2) part of Slavland today?

>>212214421
te son ti questo?

>>212210759 (OP)
>How the FUCK do you pronounce Ljubljana
Its pronounced exactly as it's written

>>212217529
bilingual zone, Italobros we won.

>>212217588
incelliere detected
perché non posti mai sul filo?

>>212217529
the entire Dalmatian coast belongs to chadtalians

>>212217735
will croatlets ever recover from this brutal mogging?

Slovenia is more developed than Italy at this point and Croatia will soon follow.
Shame on Italians, the heirs of the Roman Empire lost the economic race to barbarian illiterate invaders from the Pannonian Basin.

>>212210759 (OP)
>How the FUCK do you pronounce Ljubljana
For me, it's LUBE-JU-ANNA

>>212217817
it’s lyuu blya na

>>212214162
In my history book Sloveni-acks got acked nonstop by Chadtalians

>>212217529
>Slavland
you are Gothic, you're not fooling anybody

>>212217529
The French and British aiding you.

>>212210759 (OP)
Is this the attack on titan city