Thread 212238660

does your culture have an expectation of taking care of your parents once they get old? it's a big thing here and the primary motivation for having children

>>212238660 (OP)
yes
/pol/ is currently half retards screeching about how you're a traitor if you put them in a nursing home (which are mostly quite nice despite the retard memes) and half retards screeching with glee that they will do that to their parents for not coddling them even more than they already do
and zoomers are mainly the latter now because they were raised to act like fucking niggers, just like /pol/ and actual niggers
but most people take care of their parents despite all internet propaganda

>>212238660 (OP)
It was when Japan was still a thirdie country
Now they go to retirement homes or daycare

>>212238660 (OP)
No.
It's quite the opposite here.
Old people generally refuse help from their children even if it means struggling alone or living in a senior home.
My parents are 77 and 81. Both live in a fancy elderly home (picrel) and they refuse help from me and my siblings because "don't waste your time on us".
It's all about being independent. Same reason we move out at 18 and over 50% of all homes are single person homes.

>>212238660 (OP)
Nope. Like the other anon said, the old fucks don't want help. Too much pride. They prefer elderly care homes or senior living areas.

When your parents start needing help to use the toilet you send them to this old people hotel that is driven by profit and they will have immigrants that can't speak Swedish wipe your parents asses and sometimes abuse them when no one is looking and you will go visit them maybe every other month if you remember to. You tell everyone around you that you don't visit them more often because it's so le heart breaking to see your parents old and weak with a failing memory but in reality you are just lazy and heartless like most Swedes and you're just counting the days until you get your inheritance.

>>212238660 (OP)
It's our culture because we cant afford to have elderly homes and most of our caretakers leave our countries to take care of geriatric firsties.

>>212238995
Oh and this is the accepted and normal process btw. They did the same thing to their parents.

>>212238660 (OP)
No, in the past you would move out of your parents house and leave them be. But now with the house market being in the toilet less and less people can afford to move out resulting in them kicking out their parents once they retire

>>212238995
This is why my parents pay extra for a nice senior home area.
All the help and employees are Swedish and the care is top notch.

No, in civilized countries every party understands that it's more rational and better for everyone to let professionals take care of ailing elders.

>>212239109
That's fucking expensive and only rich people can afford that.

>>212239211
Not in civilized countries.

>>212239211
Here it's provided by the state. Unless you want premium care, then you can pay for fancier homes and superior care.

>>212239211
>stop paying
>the government starts paying instead
In firstie countries they don't kick 80-year olds with dementia out on the streets.

>>212238660 (OP)
Of course.

They took care of you when you were shitting yourself, didn't they?

I have personally tracked down and captured 2 old fucks on my property that escaped from their old people homes.
They always beg not go back or they act stupid.
Doesn't work on me though, a call and 5 minutes later the police puts them back where they belong.
No sympathy for the world destroying boomer generation.
Eat your fucking oatmeal and slowly waste away in your cells.

>>212238828
>My parents are 77 and 81. Both live in a fancy elderly home (picrel) and they refuse help from me and my siblings because "don't waste your time on us".
If they say that, probably the ailments they have are not that severe.
So that also mean good healthcare.
Here people at those ages can barely move, are hunched and need canes.
Not to mention many have diabetes, cancer and osteoporosis already in their 60s.

>>212239416
I hope I never have to interact with Scandinavians

>>212238660 (OP)
I tried helping my dad with grocery runs and cleaning his old house but he literally told me "försvinn för helvete och låt mig dö i fred" (go away for fucks sake and let me die in peace) so I did that. Just made sure a welfare check was done once a month until he died in 2018. He was 83 and severely alcoholic.

Me and my cousins and uncle emptied the house after and we removed over 3500 empty bottles of vodka and whisky. Some over 40 years old.

>>212239658
I can relate, except it was my grandfather and he was a secret alcoholic. He hid little bottles of liquor behind paintings, underneath the bathroom sink, in the ceiling lights, inside books etc.

>>212239286
>provided by the state.
>>212238828
>It's all about being independent.

So which is it?

>>212239497
Scandinavia is too spicy for browns anyway.

>>212239795
>So which is it?
Both.
Not relying on family. Having help from professionals when you need it but not bothering family. They want you to be free from their troubles.

>>212239795
The state guarantees independence in Sweden. It's what social democracy is all about

>>212239307
I'm not exactly sure what the exact legal status here is, but the general assumption is that if an old person is somewhere, at home, severally ill and he can't move and take care of himself, and nobody close takes care of him, then he is pretty much dead. Nobody from "the state" is going to just take him to a retirement center.
At least that is the assumption, maybe it's changed a bit recently but I doubt it.

In Romania, I remember there was a proposal a few years ago to give an amount of money to people who take care of elderly family members.

>>212239497
You are brown. Elderly people deserve the Ättestupa. They ruined this country

>>212239812
Probably the lack of vitamin D

>>212239990
I'm brown but I have a heart

>>212240011
The heart is for love and hatred

>>212240011
You will never be able to understand. Swedish boomers were raised in pic related but then voted for hand grenade attacks and gang rapes because they didn't want to make their own pizzas.
Only after the last boomer is dead can Sweden begin to heal.

>>212239878
>>212239897
Not very capitalist and individualist of you, comrades.
Jokes aside, our media here when treating social aspects and talking about "independence " implies that people should stop being "lazy and entitled and expect the state to give "

>>212238660 (OP)
No
In my country, the expectation is that state will take care of the elderly
And the pensioners (majority) vote for the state to take money out of the working mans pocket

>>212240142
Do you make your own pizza?

>>212240251
Sometimes.

So what i get from this thread
socialism for elders in rich countries
libertarianism for elders in poor countries

>>212240293
There is no such thing as a rich or poor country. There are only rich or poor people but every country has great resources. It's just a question how that wealth is disctributed internally.

>>212240588
retarded german who has never left his village

>>212240588
That's such bullshit.

A trailer park resident in Alabama is much richer and has a higher standard of living than a nurse or some similar professional in my country, that's why people go to America and work cleaning houses despite having a college education, often times.

>>212238660 (OP)
Putting them in a nursing home will rack up several hundred thousand in debt at least

>>212240182
Actually, all of these retirement homes are ran buy private companies owned capitalist investment firms. They're still paid with tax money, though. This ensures that the care id as shitty as it can be and that as much tax money as possible is moved away from Sweden (there is no cap on profits)

>>212238660 (OP)
Not just an "expectation": you are legally compelled to do so!
No matter if my parents gave me zero support at university so that I had to drop out since i wasted 5 h a day commuting and I had little time to study, and squandered most of their money whilst some people I know received several properties... :-(

>>212241062
Based stock market connoisseur. Long $VTR and $WELL.

>>212241366
same here but only if you are poor
ppl who earn more than 100k have to pay for their parents elderly care
meanwhile, people who inherit houses from their parents worth millions have to pay jack shit

>>212241552
Btw my mum inherited 1/2 of her parents' house 10 y ago and 4 y ago sold it to her sister. Since I am quite poor and my 2nd son had just been born do you expect that she would set aside the revenue for her little nephews?

>>212238660 (OP)
the old usually work to death or commit suicide for the shame of not working to death as that means they are going to hell

>>212238828
I admire your thirst for independence but I’d rather be offered some tea if I happen to visit.