Thread 212262027 - /int/ [Archived: 646 hours ago]

Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 7:24:21 AM No.212262027
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1739756056644674
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Why did spain ruin france?
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Anonymous Spain
6/30/2025, 7:40:27 AM No.212262285
vargcuckmongolsissy
vargcuckmongolsissy
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Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 7:42:25 AM No.212262322
>1940
Christ, imagine what it's like now.
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Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 7:44:14 AM No.212262356
>>212262322
Bet the women are hot thoughbeit
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Anonymous Italy
6/30/2025, 7:44:35 AM No.212262360
fri1t
fri1t
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>>212262027 (OP)
the french were cucks and didn't make kids
Anonymous Brazil
6/30/2025, 7:47:42 AM No.212262422
>>212262027 (OP)
>>212262027 (OP)
The browning of France happened way before that. The Romans raped the shit out of them.
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Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 7:52:30 AM No.212262509
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1732991619463344
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>>212262422
they got BLEACHED by Germanic BWC though, just like meds
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Anonymous Spain
6/30/2025, 7:52:31 AM No.212262511
varg blond
varg blond
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>>212262285
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Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 7:53:31 AM No.212262529
>>212262511
>>212262285
nonwhite moor rape baby seething kek
Anonymous Kyrgyzstan
6/30/2025, 7:54:30 AM No.212262546
>>212262027 (OP)
The catholic moorish bvlls took revenge after being defeated by Charles Martel at Poitiers
Anonymous Italy
6/30/2025, 7:55:19 AM No.212262562
>>212262422
how do the french cope with this?
First half of the 19th century
Bonaparte family
Philippe Antoine d'Ornano (1784–1863), general and cousin of Napoleon Bonaparte
Louis-Auguste Blanqui (1805–1881), politician.
Henri Cernuschi (Enrico Cernuschi; 1821–1896), banker, journalist, and art collector (born in Milan). His collection is known as the Musée Cernuschi
Virginia Oldoini (1837–1899), mistress of Emperor Napoleon III
Léon Gambetta (1838–1882), lawyer and politician (his father was from Genoa)
Émile Zola (1840–1902), writer and politician (his father, Francesco Zolla, was born in Venice)
Philippe Solari (1840–1906), artist
Joseph Galliéni (1849–1916), French officer (father from Lombardy)
Jean-François Raffaëlli, (1850–1924), artist
Raoul Pugno (1852–1914), composer, pianist
Pierre Savorgnan de Brazza (Pietro Paolo Savorgnan di Brazzà; 1852–1905), explorer (born at Castel Gandolfo, near Rome)
Vincenzo Bellini (1801–1835), Italian-born opera composer
Gioachino Rossini, (1792–1868) composer
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Anonymous Italy
6/30/2025, 7:56:20 AM No.212262576
>>212262562
Second half of the 19th century
Clément Castelli (1870–1959), Italian-born painter (from Premia, Verbano-Cusio-Ossola region)
Vincent Scotto (1874–1952), composer
Ricciotto Canudo (1879–1923), Italian-born writer (from Gioia del Colle)
Ettore Bugatti (1881–1947), Italian-born automobile designer and manufacturer (from Milan)
Rembrandt (Annibale) Bugatti (1884–1916), Italian-born sculptor (from Milan)
Amedeo Clemente Modigliani (1884–1920), Italian-born painter and sculptor (from Livorno)
Henri Bosco (Fernand Marius Bosco) (1888–1976), novelist
Michel Carlini (1889–1967), lawyer and politician
Elsa Schiaparelli (1890–1973), Italian-born fashion designer (from Rome)
Jean Giono (1895–1970), novelist (Italian ancestry)
José Corti (José Corticchiato; 1895–1984), publisher
Lazare Ponticelli (Lazzaro Ponticelli; 1897–2008), Italian-born veteran of the First World War (from Bettola, near Piacenza)
Paul Belmondo (1898–1982), sculptor (born in Algiers of Italian ancestry)
Cino Del Duca (1899–1967), Italian-born businessman, film producer and philanthropist (from Montedinove, Ascoli Piceno)
Guillaume Apollinaire (1880–1918), poet, playwright, short story writer, novelist and art critic (born in Rome)
1900s
Fernand Joseph Désiré Contandin dit Fernandel (1903–1971), actor and singer
Stéphane Grappelli (Stefano Grappelli; 1908–1997), jazz violinist (his father was from Alatri, near Frosinone)
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Anonymous Spain
6/30/2025, 7:56:21 AM No.212262577
VargLogic
VargLogic
md5: 012bc9d748fd2563b83fafa19146307d🔍
>>212262511
Replies: >>212262635
Anonymous Italy
6/30/2025, 7:57:20 AM No.212262593
>>212262576
1910s
Rina Ketty (Rina Pichetto; 1911–1996), Italian-born singer (from Sarzana)
Marcel Bich (1914–1994), Italian-born manufacturer and co-founder of Bic (from Turin)
Édith Piaf (Édith Giovanna Gassion; 1915–1963), singer (her mother, Line Marsa, born in Livorno, was of Italian-Berber descent)
Achille Zavatta (1915–1993), clown
Léo Ferré (1916–1993), Singer and songwriter
Henri Betti (1917–2005) composer and pianist (his father is born in Savona and his grandfather is born in Parma).
Giuseppe Tacca (1917-1984), cyclist
Claude Barma (1918–1992), director and screenwriter
Jeanne Modigliani (1918-1984), historian
Adolphe Deledda (1919-2003), cyclist
1920s
César Baldaccini (1921–1998), sculptor
Georges Brassens (1921–1981), singer
Émile Bongiorni (1921–1949), footballer
Stellio Lorenzi (1921–1990), screenwriter
Yves Montand (Ivo Livi) (1921–1991), actor and singer
Roger Grava (1922–1949), footballer
Serge Reggiani (1922–2004), singer
Pierre Cardin (Pietro Cardin) (1922–2020), fashion designer
François Cavanna (1923–2014), author
Marcel Zanini (1923–2023), jazz musician
Armand Gatti (1924–2017), also known as Dante Savoir Gatti, poet, author, playwright, director, screenwriter, producer, journalist
Michel Piccoli (1925–2020), actor
Raphaël Géminiani (born 1925), cyclist
Philippe Castelli (1926–2006), actor
Marcel Azzola (1927–2019), accordionist
Remo Forlani (1927–2009), writer and screenwriter
Emmanuelle Riva (1927–2017), actress
Albert Uderzo (1927–2020), comic author
Daniel Filipacchi (born 1928), photographer, art collector and publisher
Jean Dotto (1928-2000), cyclist
Willy Rizzo (1928–2013), photographer and designer
Luc Ferrari (1929–2005), composer
Claude Nougaro (1929–2004), jazz singer and poet
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Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 7:57:55 AM No.212262599
>>212262593
>>212262576
>>212262562
diego the dishwasher seething
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Anonymous Italy
6/30/2025, 7:58:45 AM No.212262611
1930s
Bernard Stasi (1930–2011), politician
Robert Enrico (1931–2001), film director
Roger Piantoni (1931–2018), footballer
Annie Fratellini (1932–1997), circus artist, clown, singer and film actress
Francesca Solleville (born 1932), singer
Paul Virilio (1932–2018), philosopher, cultural theorist and urbanist
Max Gallo (1932–2017), writer, historian and politician
Pierre Milza (1932–2018), historian
Jean-Paul Belmondo (born 1933), actor
Loris Azzaro, (1933–2003), fashion designer and perfumer, born in Tunisia to Sicilian parents.
Dalida (Iolanda Cristina Gigliotti) (1933–1987), singer, actress and Miss Egypt 1954.
Emanuel Ungaro (1933–2019), fashion designer
Nino Ferrer (Nino Agostino Arturo Maria Ferrari) (1934–1998), singer
Lucien Bianchi (1934–1969), racing driver
Pia Colombo (Eliane Marie Amélie) (1934–1986), singer
Claude Faraldo (1936–2008), actor, screenwriter and film director
Bruno Gigliotti (Orlando) (born 1936), music producer
Christiane Martel (born 1936), actress and Miss Universe 1953
Eugène Saccomano (1936–2019), journalist, author
Claude François (1939–1978), singer and songwriter
Michèle Mercier (born 1939), actress
Liliane Montevecchi (1932–2018), actress, dancer, and singer
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Anonymous Russian Federation
6/30/2025, 7:58:54 AM No.212262614
>>212262285
All three are jeets btw
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Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 7:58:56 AM No.212262616
we are better than you and you know it
we are better than you and you know it
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so much butthurt from the brown eyeoids
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Anonymous Italy
6/30/2025, 7:59:45 AM No.212262633
>>212262611
1940s
Raymond Forni (1941–2008), politician
Catherine Tasca (born 1941), politician
Gilbert Bellone (born 1942), cyclist
Edwige Fenech (born 1948), actor and film producer
Jean-François Mattei (born 1943), doctor and politician
Jean-Louis Bianco (born 1943), politician
Pino Presti (born 1943), musician, composer and producer
Luc Merenda (born 1943), actor
Gérard Rinaldi (1943–2012), actor and singer
Walter Spanghero (born 1943), rugby player
Jean-Pierre Castaldi (born 1944), actor
Nicole Grisoni, also known as Nicoletta (born 1944), singer
Michel Gérard Joseph Colucci (Coluche) (1944–1986), humorist
Daniel Bevilacqua (Christophe) (1945–2020), singer
Jean-Claude Izzo (1945–2000), writer
Patrick Modiano (born 1945), writer
Richard Cocciante (Riccardo) (born 1946), singer
Alice Donadel, also known as Alice Dona (born 1946), singer
Hervé Forneri, also known as Dick Rivers (1946–2019), singer
Hubert Falco (born 1947), politician
Max Guazzini (born 1947), entrepreneur
Daniel Russo (born 1948), film actor
Henri Proglio (born 1949), manager
1950s
Corinne Cléry (born 1950), actress
Richard Galliano (born 1950), accordionist
Gérard Schivardi (born 1950), politician
Claude Bartolone (born 1951), politician
Fabrice Luchini (born 1951), stage and film actor
Marc Cerrone (born 1952), musician, composer and producer
Jean-Marc Todeschini (born 1952), politician
Francis Cabrel (born 1953), singer
Patrick de Carolis (born 1953), TV presenter
Angelo Parisi (born 1953), judoka
Philippe Risoli (born 1953), television and radio presenter
Christian Estrosi (born 1955), politician
Michel Platini (born 1955), footballer
Thierry Beccaro (born 1956), actor and TV presenter
André Vallini (born 1956), politician
Michèle Rubirola (1956), politician
Claude Onesta (born 1957), handball player
Thierry Gilardi (1958–2008), stage actor and television presenter
Jeannie Longo (born 1958), cyclist
Thierry Mariani (born 1958), politician
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Anonymous Spain
6/30/2025, 7:59:48 AM No.212262635
vargBLACKED
vargBLACKED
md5: ea043510b9ff09914022368ee749703a🔍
>>212262285
>>212262511
>>212262577
AS A PROTESTANT KEK I SAY PLEASE N*GGER SAMA BREED MY WOMEN
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Anonymous Italy
6/30/2025, 8:00:53 AM No.212262657
>>212262633
1960s
Gérard Onesta (born 1960), politician
Catherine Malandrino (born 1963), fashion designer
Stéphane Sanseverino (born 1961), singer
Bruno Bellone (born 1962), footballer
Michel Petrucciani (1962–1999), jazz pianist
Roberto Alagna (born 1963), tenor singer
Nadine Morano (born 1963), politician
Jean Alesi (born 1964), Formula One driver
Valeria Bruni-Tedeschi (born 1964), actress
Christophe Neff (1964), geographer
Eric Ciotti (born 1965), politician
Jean-Marc Morandini (born 1965), journalist, radio, and TV host (Corsican father and Sardinian mother)
Florent Emilio Siri (born 1965), film director and screenwriter
Eric Cantona (born 1966), footballer
Carla Bruni-Sarkozy (born 1967), actress
David Ginola (born 1967), footballer
Bruno Putzulu (born 1967), actor
Jean-Michel Tinivelli (born 1967), actor
Bruno Caliciuri (born 1968), singer-songwriter
Tatiana Trouvé (born 1968), contemporary visual artist
Laurence Ferrari (born 1969), journalist and TV anchor
Marianne James, singer, writer, actress
1970s
Benjamin Castaldi (born 1970), television personality
Marina Foïs (born 1970), actress
Dominique Casagrande (born 1971), footballer
Hélène Ségara (née Hélène Rizzo) (born 1971), singer
Sylvie Testud (born 1971), actress, writer and film director
Philippe Candeloro (born 1972), figure skater
Julie Gayet (born 1972), actress and film producer
Chiara Mastroianni (born 1972), actress and singer
Vincent Candela (born 1973), footballer
Aurélie Filippetti (born 1973), novelist and politician
Florence Foresti (born 1973), comedian and actress
Elsa Lunghini (born 1973), singer and actress
Alessandro Mercuri (born 1973), author and director
Laurent Sciarra (born 1973), basketball player
Barbara Pompili (born 1975), politician
Gilles Marini (born 1976), actor
Alice Taglioni (born 1976), actress and model
Fanny Biascamano (born 1979), singer
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Anonymous Russian Federation
6/30/2025, 8:00:57 AM No.212262658
>>212262616
o algo
Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 8:00:57 AM No.212262659
1743575095121810
1743575095121810
md5: c7e1dfe08eba49f34dd304374aed92f3🔍
>>212262635
moor blood in your veins diego
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Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 8:01:59 AM No.212262680
1726500933534304
1726500933534304
md5: 65e1ae0ac8425159b1f96336f9ce8afd🔍
Anonymous Italy
6/30/2025, 8:02:40 AM No.212262698
>>212262657
1980s
Seth Gueko (Nicolas Salvadori) (born 1980), rapper
Benoît Pedretti (born 1980), footballer
Julie de Bona (born 1980), actress
Roxane Mesquida (born 1981), actress and model
Franck Signorino (born 1981), footballer
Laëtitia Tonazzi (born 1981), footballer
Jenifer (born 1982), singer and actress
Vitaa (Charlotte Gonin) (born 1983), singer
Mathieu Flamini (born 1984), footballer
Pio Marmaï, (born 1984) actor
Morgan Amalfitano (born 1985), footballer
Élise Bussaglia (born 1985), footballer
Anthony Scaramozzino (born 1985), singer
Irene Curtoni (born 1985), ski racer
Soko (singer) (born 1985), singer
Charlotte Casiraghi (born 1986), princess of Monaco
Olivier Giroud (born 1986), footballer
Frédéric Sammaritano (born 1986), footballer
Vincent Muratori (born 1987), footballer
Elisa Sednaoui (born 1987), model, actress, philanthropist and film director
Yoann Maestri (born 1988), rugby union player
Romain Alessandrini (born 1989), footballer
Romain Amalfitano (born 1989), footballer
Jules Bianchi (1989–2015), Formula One driver
Priscilla Betti (born 1989), singer, dancer and actress
Vincent Laurini (born 1989), footballer
Benjamin Toniutti (born 1989), volleyball player
Guillaume Gigliotti (born 1989), footballer
1990s
Rémy Cabella (born 1990), footballer
Xavier Chiocci (born 1990), rugby player
Sébastien Corchia (born 1990), footballer
Cindy Bruna (born 1994), model
Yoan Cardinale (born 1994), footballer
Paul Nardi (born 1994), footballer
Jordan Bardella (born 1995), French politician
Enzo Crivelli (born 1995), footballer
Caroline Costa (born 1996), singer
Fiona Ferro (born 1997), tennis player
Delphine Cascarino (born 1997), footballer
Estelle Cascarino (born 1997), footballer
Paul Bernardoni (born 1997), footballer
Olivier Boscagli (born 1997), footballer
Lorenzo Callegari (born 1998), footballer
Sonia Ben Ammar (born 1999), model and singer
Nicolas Cozza (born 1999), footballer
Fabio Quartararo (born 1999), Grand Prix Motorcycle racer
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Anonymous Italy
6/30/2025, 8:06:10 AM No.212262750
italian diaspora
italian diaspora
md5: 55a71c10efc1553105ff0f541293c688🔍
>>212262599
this is the italians in france in the last 3 generations only, imagine the total numbers, oh nononono
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Anonymous Netherlands
6/30/2025, 8:11:35 AM No.212262827
im southern french and my family is italian not spanish
Anonymous Spain
6/30/2025, 8:16:06 AM No.212262889
>>212262614
>Varg is a jeet
Agreed
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Anonymous Spain
6/30/2025, 9:33:18 AM No.212264268
>>212262750
Italy "bred" his talent in!
Anonymous Spain
6/30/2025, 9:34:50 AM No.212264297
>>212262889
I think his talking about the guy posting under mutt flag
Anonymous Spain
6/30/2025, 10:09:51 AM No.212264947
>>212262698
And the major of Paris is Spanish (Hidalgo), also one of the last presidents of France (Manuel Valls) was also Spanish).

They are submitted to the southern bulls
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Anonymous Latvia
6/30/2025, 10:18:01 AM No.212265147
>>212262285
Traducir post
Anonymous France
6/30/2025, 10:37:35 AM No.212265538
>>212262027 (OP)
what's funny is that they claim they did emigrate here when i leterally hear spanish everyday when i go out even today
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Anonymous Argentina
6/30/2025, 10:45:07 AM No.212265693
>>212264947
>france under spanish rule
>becomes some BNWO sissy fantasy
Uh spa ishclitties what is this
Anonymous Russian Federation
6/30/2025, 10:45:11 AM No.212265695
France is truly a joke. Eternally mogged by any other European power. England, Germany, Spain, Italy. All mog it.
Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 11:10:18 AM No.212266220
>>212262027 (OP)
chicanos hate everything good, that is why.
Anonymous France
6/30/2025, 11:20:09 AM No.212266443
Singe_thumb.jpg
Singe_thumb.jpg
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>>212262027 (OP)
Im tired of this shit, how did it happen in the first place?
Im seriously done…
Anonymous Spain
6/30/2025, 11:24:00 AM No.212266540
>>212262027 (OP)
They literally invaded us
Also I don't remember seeing many french with spanish surnames, but I do with portuguese and italian surnames
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Anonymous Spain
6/30/2025, 11:34:36 AM No.212266784
>>212262027 (OP)
Now that our moroccans get euro passports as well expect some lightbulb head phenotype increase in addition to the brown eye color.
Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 11:37:22 AM No.212266836
>>212262509
Nordtimmies seething at powerfvl Meds that controlled the peninsula.
Anonymous Belarus
6/30/2025, 11:40:16 AM No.212266900
file
file
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>>212262027 (OP)
same thing happened in Russia with Tatars. We integrated them, and now average Russian is very likely to have brown eyes. See Pavel Durov
Anonymous United Kingdom
6/30/2025, 11:40:18 AM No.212266903
>>212262659
>basques and catalans once again proven right to claim ther independence from sp*in
Anonymous Spain
6/30/2025, 11:45:55 AM No.212267031
>>212262027 (OP)
That nigger is insane.

France has a long history of brown and black worship. Look up "negrophilia".

French women would flock to north africa to bang subsaharan african niggers. They didn't even abolish pisslam in north africa and fought on the side of the muzzrats against the European Christians.

Like, Macron even welcomed the turkey-backed jihadi in a suit who took control of syria.
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Anonymous Belarus
6/30/2025, 11:48:29 AM No.212267099
>>212267031
ANd? Your post only supports Thuletide's post that they miscenated with Spaniards out of interest in non-white men.
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Anonymous Spain
6/30/2025, 11:48:54 AM No.212267109
>>212265538
>t. Lives in Toulouse
Anonymous Spain
6/30/2025, 11:50:44 AM No.212267165
>>212267099
Read again potatonigger.

They have been browning and blacking themselves for a long time, Spain doesn't even come into the picture.
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Anonymous Belarus
6/30/2025, 11:52:26 AM No.212267213
>>212267165
Yeah? They been browning themselves with Spaniards?
Why can't you accept that white women find your countrymen hot and want to conceive from them (and you in particular)?
Anonymous Spain
6/30/2025, 12:39:47 PM No.212268423
The funny thing is that during Reconquista many Franks settled in Spain to repopulate many cities.

For example, Francisco FRANCO (aka Frank) probably descends from them. So there is a good amount of Spaniards with medieval french ancestry but most of them with typical Spanish surnames.
Anonymous Hungary
6/30/2025, 12:42:49 PM No.212268511
>>212262027 (OP)
France is an unironic negrophile mutt shithole. Half the “white” people who live in France aren’t even French; they’ll immediately tell you their grandparents came from Italy or Bulgaria etc
Anonymous France
6/30/2025, 12:43:30 PM No.212268534
>>212262322
Statistically insignificant. I didn't get the blue eyes of my father.
>>212262356
French women have zero curves. They're all thin like sticks.
Anonymous France
6/30/2025, 12:46:16 PM No.212268615
My wife is an Argentine-Italian and despite being a natural blonde has hazel eyes. Yet both her parents and all 4 of her grandparents have light eyes. Can happen
Anonymous United States
6/30/2025, 1:17:20 PM No.212269429
the-most-common-surname-in-each-department-of-mainland-v0-y6z9ifpe8bhb1
>>212266540
Anonymous Puerto Rico
6/30/2025, 1:20:04 PM No.212269523
lisamayer
lisamayer
md5: b182f86395b1ae3e2a7ed9449774b5de🔍
Anonymous Spain
6/30/2025, 1:22:48 PM No.212269602
1661695641926
1661695641926
md5: 16b5e602a321c1f6c1d9b3c711a3d41b🔍
If anything, the Frogs infested Castile and Aragon with inmigrants during Middle-Ages, the medieval documents talk about a massive flood from French basically jumping the wall into Spain.

From the anonymous chronicle of Sahagún, 118:
"Pues agora como el sobredicho rrei ordenase e estableçiese que aí se fiçiese villa, ayuntaronse de todas las partes del vniberso burgueses de muchos e diuersos ofiçios, conbiene a sauer, herreros, carpinteros, xastres, pelliteros, zapateros, escutarios e omes enseñados en muchas e dibersas artes e ofiçios; e otrosí personas de diuersas e estrañas prouinçias e rreinos, conbiene a sauer, gascones, bretones, alemanes, yngleses, borgoñones, normandos, tolosanos, prouinçiales, lonbardos, e muchos otros negoçiadores de diuersas naçiones e estrannas lenguas; e así pobló e fiço la villa non pequenna."

Translation
"And so, when the aforementioned king decreed and established that a town should be founded there, townspeople from all parts of the world gathered, of many and diverse trades — namely, blacksmiths, carpenters, tailors, furriers, shoemakers, shield-makers, and men skilled in many and various arts and crafts; and likewise, people from different and foreign provinces and kingdoms — namely, Gascons, Bretons, Germans, English, Burgundians, Normans, people from Toulouse, Provençals, Lombards, and many other merchants of diverse nations and strange tongues. And thus, he settled and founded a town not small."
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Anonymous Belarus
6/30/2025, 1:42:33 PM No.212270213
>>212269602
>middle ages
so BEFORE Arabs conquered it and inserted their DNA into Frogified Iberia, making it Moor?