Thread 212341951

did boomers and gen x just completely rape the job market in your country with their unrealistic expectstions?

because they want you to die so they can replace you with a robot and make more money
well they are going to do it anyways they just also want you to die

>>212341951 (OP)
Hey I'm late Gen X, I didn't rape shit

>>212341951 (OP)
Yes and real estate too.

>>212341951 (OP)
Europeans don't have a boomer generation.

You're a brainwashed millenial that think that everything is your dad's fault.

>>212343490
fuck off, gramps
and no, confident hand shakes don’t cut it anymore

when zoomers talk about "unrealistic expectations" at work they usually mean showing up on time and responding to emails and phone calls

>>212341951 (OP)
idk, because idk what these generation terms mean, and everyone seems to disagree on age/birth ranges for them anyway
so when someone says millenial, it could be any of like five fucking different definitions
STOP fucking using these bullshit generation terms

>>212343526
>confident hand shakes don’t cut it anymore
Of course not. You millenials voted for unlimited immigration of 20-45 year olds and now wonder why you can't find jobs or houses anymore.

It’s just greed plain and simple, taking a fresh stem graduate for example, it still takes them 4-6 months of basically being hand held by a senior engineer to be able to build anything of note

The older business people expect senior level skills from fresh grads and everyone is miserable

>>212343565
I didn’t vote for shit. I’m 27. By the time I was out of uni, the Ahmed situation was in full swing. Oh, and don’t put this shit on millennials. Old people are the primary voting demographic in every country.

>>212341951 (OP)
no zoomers rape themselfs with their unrealistic expectations

ten years ago people here who wanted to get an internship in software engineering only had to know to name all the data types in the programming language they wanted to write code in and they were hired, and now you have to have seversl whole ass apps developed just to get a small chance to get invited to an interview

>>212343616
>t. Hr woman that needs 10 years of experience to an "entry level job"

>>212343799
At the same time people from the MBA side are screaming about there not being enough developers, there are hundreds of job postings every day for everything from webdev to embedded but they expect a 10x senior dev for a fresh grad pay

>>212343816
>have zero experience
>apply for jobs that require 10 years experience
>cry online when he doesnt get them

>>212343892
I've seen ads from top tier companies asking you to have a high grade average not only in university but also in high school kek

>>212343616
this, people are too picky with where they work and expecting too high of salaries

>>212343962
>"Entry level job" claimed by the company

I keep seeing people talking about this "PHD and 5 years of experience required for junior position" meme but I've never seen an entry level job offer that would absolutely require prior professional experience

>>212344121
>entry level = greenass straight out of uni will be able to do it from day one with no training or experience
doesnt work that way, never worked that way.

>>212344276
the fuck is entry level then?

>>212344276
Boomie you have some major memory loss. Its was normal to train workers in your younger times

>>212344296
probably should be interpreted as the entry level position *at our company*, not entry level relative to the whole job market
an entry level position at microsoft being very different from an entry level position at a smaller firm
I couldn't tell you what it is people expect zoomers to do with that information, though
still need to put food on the table

>>212344108
It’s give and take, you can’t hire a fresh dev for example, give them $3k a month, and expect them to swing the entire system architecture, experiment with frameworks, and lead half the sprints, which is what people expect

>>212344369
still is, its called trainee or apprentice or just the errand and and coffe bitch at a company. entry level is a level or two above that.
>commercial pilot, entry level
your attitude is you can get this job and start flying international just having passed theoretichal exam. what it actually means is they will hire someone with previous experience in flying but it will be on the lowest aka entry level in their company. a second pilot on the shit routes no others want to fly.

>>212344913
>dude entry level akshyally means tier 2 and actual entry level is called apprenticeship
Jewish mindgames

>>212344276
This. But zoomies don’t have any brain cells to understand this concept.

>>212344296
Everything and nothing.

>>212344296
Everything and nothing.

>>212344247
Because those type of job postings are just ones companies put up to appear like they do external hiring but in reality already have an internal candidate prepared or are doing a "network"/nepo hire.

>>212346313
how the fuck do i even network with gen x while im at uni

>>212344913
You are so out of touch with reality

>>212341951 (OP)
I’m gen x and I’m still waiting for my boomer boss to die, when were actually in charge you will know because it’s going to be the fourth reich.

>>212341951 (OP)
I'm about to take a factory job cutting fruit. I was offered a lab scientist position in Thailand but the pay is so ass I make more money working with immigrants in a refrigerator here. I guess I need to go get my masters just to land a lab assistant position here hahahahaha I'm gonna kms

>>212346443
You socialize with your classmates and a few years down the line you look for an opening in a company where one of your classmates works. Or when you're in your first year you make an effort to get to know people who are about to graduate and then by the time you graduate you already have connections. Yes it sucks it's hard but that's how you're expected to do things. I only wish I realized that instead of naively thinking a degree is my ticket to an entry level job

in 2017 when I got my first "real job" it was a junior position with a salary that was almost 100% of the "national mathematical average" which in Poland is grossly overestimated due to how they count it.

I had no job experience, no education (droped out of uni in an unrelated field) and not even a single online course about it.
The job description literally said "looking for enthusiasts".

If I was looking for a job right now with my job qualifications from 8 years ago my ass would be unemployed.

Capitalists doomed us all.

>>212347309
When I tried getting jobs through networking last time I was doing interviews, the two places I got with through connections seemed to imply I was only talking to them due to my connections. Felt like it somehow hurt me more than helped.

>>212347140
ok.
keep on applying for jobs above your skill level and see who's out of touch with reality. its literally the whole topic in a nutshell, expectations and reality doesnt line up, they are out of touch. jobs hiring are the reality, suckers applying for the jobs have the expectations.

>>212347309
nigga i want an internship!!!!!

>>212348345
I just lied, the job was actually way easier and required way less skills

>>212341951 (OP)
saba

A big problem here is that due to aging working population all of those fucktards have moved into management and supporting roles so there's a whole army of them relying on a handful of worker ants to do their jobs

>>212343565
>Muh votes
Haven't voted since 18 and I'm 30 now.
How deep down the Reddit rabbit hole are you to believe a bunch of votes make a big impact on how our societies have developed over the past decades?

>>212350668
i hope i get to see zoomers die off too

>>212343565
>he actually thinks voting does anything

>>212342061
it's impossible to buy anything without becoming a bank slave for 30 years.. might as well go all in some random crypto memecoin, rip