Update:
I'm gonna pay $2255 per month in rent on $4591 per month take home income.

thats a lot of money you can save

just buy a house

It is impossible to suffer in America

>>212368842
how

>>212368819 (OP)
>The remaining $2336 is not enough to live on in the U.S.

>>212369040
not if you want to
- have a car
- build a full emergency fund
- have a well-funded retirement
- eat decently
- go out with friends
- have a dating life

>>212368819 (OP)
>I'm gonna pay $2255 per month in rent
I would rather live on the streets than pay that much, insane
It's half a year's rent for me and you still get 200$ to fuck around

I just signed a lease for $1700 a month in rent on $4400 in take home income. 600 square foot studio apartment downtown.

>>212369074
Just don't own a car retard and you can do everything else on your list

>>212368819 (OP)
Americans do not suffer

>>212369125
nice, what city?
>just don't own a car
well, i actually don't. that's why i'm paying $2255 in rent instead of living out in the neighborhoods and paying $1900. But i'm still going to complain about it.

>>212368819 (OP)
>rent a smaller apartment
>rent an older apartment
>rent in a different neighborhood

>>212369180
>nice, what city?
Baltimore. I know what you're thinking, but it's much better nowadays.

>well, i actually don't. that's why i'm paying $2255 in rent instead of living out in the neighborhoods and paying $1900. But i'm still going to complain about it.
Fair enough haha, I'm in the same boat

>>212369256
based, i'm in arlington.

>>212369266
Good shit

>>212368819 (OP)
americans literally live on easy mode, stfu

>>212368853
>>212369140
>>212369284
what's your assessment?

>>212369074
I heard that the U.S. has the lowest cost of acquiring and owning a car among the G7 countries.
Except for eating out, isn't the cost of food not that expensive?
What I'm also wondering is how much medical insurance costs each month.

all my friends have better jobs than me and live with their gfs so they take home like $6000 per month and pay like $1600 in rent.

>>212369342
I pay $200 a month for insurance but I also have a $2000 deductible which means insurance doesn't pay for anything until I spend at least $2000. Even then insurance won't cover everything.

>>212369284
I hear everything is getting more expensive in the UK, can you live with that?

>>212369342
Like groceries? It varies wildly here. Remember that we have basically no food standards, so you can get low end stuff for really cheap, but halfway decent meat and produce can be quite expensive.

>>212369379
Yes everything is more expensive but wages are not increasing to match it. State pension is going up though as are benefits so the freeloaders of the world will be fine.

>>212369342
>What I'm also wondering is how much medical insurance costs each month.
For context, my take home pay is $4591, but my total compensation is $6200 per month. The difference is money withheld for my
- taxes
- mandatory employee retirement contribution
- health insurance

>>212369112
It is also impossible to suffer in Norway

>>212369322
My assessment is that you're incredibly out of touch with the reality of 99.99% of humanity and you should stop complaining.

>>212369492
faggot tier response. break down what's so awful about finances in frogistan.

I pay 670 on 2450 EUR take home

>>212369074
>have a car
I don't need in South Korea
>build a full emergency fund
No cost much like in America
>have a well-funded retirement
YOLO
>eat decently
I just eat rice, vegetable. it's decent
>go out with friends
Why do I have to do that
>have a dating life
Why do I have to do that

>>212369549
you cannot svffer in deutscherland

>>212369390
In Japan, with your salary, the monthly premium is $700 and you pay 30% of the actual treatment cost.
If you incur high treatment costs, there is a relief package based on your annual income.

>>212369580
Not cost much*

>>212369074
would 4000$ be enough?
no jokes, just asking

>>212368819 (OP)
so you've got 2336 dollars left over. that's more than most eastern euros make in total, before rent and car and whatnot. and the only thing that's really all that more expensive in the US is rent, everything else costs about the same the world over.

>>212369421
About the same as in Japan, a little cheaper in the U.S.

>>212369514
I work 50 hours a week and I earn 3000 deutschmarks before tax
After tax, I bring home 1500. My rent is 800 for a small single room studio below a family on nafris and above another family if drug-dealing nafris. I can't own a car, I can't afford good food, I can't go out, I haven't vacationed in nearly a decade. Whatever is left goes to utilities (80/month on electricity, 50 on telephone and internet, water etc), insurance and debt payments. I buy half rotten food to save money and I still struggle to put more than 100 a month.
I have to work extra jobs if I want to put anything away for retirement because the pension given by the state is unlivable. I will have to work for another 40 years or until I die.

>>212369369
In Japan, with your salary, the monthly premium is $700 and you pay 30% of the actual treatment cost.
If you incur high treatment costs, there is a relief package based on your annual income.

>>212369729
grim

>>212369729
what is your job?

>>212368819 (OP)
I mean, that's pretty good compared to Europe.
My boss wanted me to pay 1200 Eurodollars in rent on a net 2000 income. I told him to go fuck himself.

>>212369650
yeah $4000 would be plenty if you got an unimpressive car and were realistic about social spending.

I earn 500k roubles month after taxes
Live in my own house, also just took 25 years mortgage on appartment (monthly payment $700)

>>212369771
Some managerial position. Did I forget to mention that about 15 of these hours are unpaid overtime and work on weekends?

>>212369729

>>212369848
I thought overtime laws were pretty strict in France. Seems like if you could cut 10 hours of unpaid work from your manager position and pick up two 5 hour shifts at a restaurant or something you would improve your financial situation and life greatly.

I'm just living with my parent without paying any rent
I'm 30 btw.

>>212369988
based

>>212369729
buh hu. My grandparents moved to France, busted their ass, had 4 children, and still bought a 5 bedroom house, with yard, garage.
You can buy, it's now for sale for 250k€, at Fos-sur-Mer

>>212369972
I have no concrete ways of proving I work overtime because it's mostly stuff I have to do alone on my computer remotely after I come home. I could sue if I did.
I would probably get fired if I worked any less. I'm already on thin ice because they always expect more than what I do.
Finding a job is a nightmare. I had to send over 800 applications to find this job and did maybe 50 interview. There is no work, unemployment is going up again and my current job search has given me nothing.
>>212370053
>My grandparents
Opinion immediately discarded

>>212369729
>My rent is 800 for a small single room studio below a family on nafris and above another family if drug-dealing nafris.
sounds like a nafri lives between them

>>212368819 (OP)
have you considered living with 2 roommates and increasing your disposable income by 60%, genius?
I swear every time people make a rent doomer post they're just living alone in an entire house made for 3+ people

>>212368819 (OP)
never rent, always buy.
>be me
>debtmaxx on apartment as soon as i can
>fix it up while living there over the span of 10 years
>sell it for over double what i bought it for
>use less than half of that profit to buy a rural house in cash
>with my expences cut in half i can afford to work half as much

>>212370149
I wish I were, I would get gibs

>>212368819 (OP)
Your rent is too high. Get a smaller place or a roommate.

To the Euros: It might seem like OP has a lot left over but a simple fast food lunch costs over $10 now.

>>212370306
Fast food costs 10 euros here too. Your prices are the same than ours. The lower cost of living thing is cope

>>212370081
You can't suffer on the France. My mother was the retarded one for having returned to his shithole.
France is wonderful

I spend 35% of my income on a tiny cuckshed soybox and have like €1k to spend after all my monthly bills - which I've already made as low as possible.
After groceries and other obligatory expenses there's nothing left

>>212369848
>>212370081
>15 of these hours are unpaid overtime
i will never understand this
i cannot believe there are people who work for NOTHING

>>212370409
You either work these hours or you don't work at all. And unless you're one of the lucky few who find a decent job, you have to do it because the job market is beyond fucked

>>212368819 (OP)
you post-rent money double of what I earn PRE-rent

>>212370409
I can't get paid for overtime and am only allowed to write it off against other hours.
I think you have limited understanding of how shitty the jobs are for 50% of the population here. Government, public companies and well paid people in private sector are doing good but I've worked multiple jobs where the entire company was kept afloat by people constantly working overtime.

>>212368819 (OP)
haven't read the thread but i'm assuming it's a bunch of DO AMERICANS REALLY type posts

No, we don't. No one has to do this unless they want to rent a detached townhouse for themselves. I live in a four room apartment expensive part of a top 5 largest city, and my rent is $1200. You just have to have a roommate

>>212368819 (OP)
Why the hell would you do that? Live outside of Manhattan, or take a two friends from college as roommates in a three-bed apartment.

My take home income is 5241 USD equivalent per month and I pay $0 rent because I live with my parents

I take home 1550 moneys per month but I also dont work. I'm a qualified electrical engineer and even when I start working again I'll only be making about a 1000 more per month after taxes so I'm not really looking forward to it. Then again I know lawyers who just attend a few zoom meetings a day and occationally skim through a contract along with a few other lawyers and make close to 10k a month. My own fault for choosing poorly.

>>212368819 (OP)
Working remote and living in a cheap country. It's the only way

>>212369729
>>212369848
average uneducated gastarbeiter from the balkans who sleeps in a bunk bed with venezuelans earns more than you my man you need to grow some standards and dignity and ask for a promotion or look for a new job
1500 net DUDE this isn't 2004

>>212370409
that's not how it works. you work for your monthly salary. if the only way to get a monthly salary is to work more than 40 hours a week, you work more than 40 hours a week.

>>212368819 (OP)
Wow, you must be ling in a villa

>>212372954
nobody wants to sleep in a bunk bed and do hard manual labor, so laborers are actually in higher demand and often get paid more
>muh education
was a factor when like 5% of the population had university degrees, not now when more than half does.

>>212370053
>Fos-sur-Mer
KEK, no thanks

>>212368819 (OP)
I make £2700 a month and rent is £300
Going to move abroad and rent will become 1000 euros, will convert whatever I need to euros for the rest

>>212368819 (OP)
>$4591
This is how much average Russian earns for about 10 months of hard work.

>>212368819 (OP)
5 years ago, before my parents bought me an apartment, my salary was ~$600 and I payed $300 in rent and I also had to pay for my uni (was cheap, $80 per month). I also had a dating life, went out with friends (wtf I still had friends...) but I didn't have a car.

hmmm yeah so?
its' normal to pay 50% of income in rent
or is the usa so fucked up that paying only 50% is such a deal that you wanted to celebrate with a post?

>>212372954
You have no idea.

>>212368819 (OP)
mao was right

>city dwellers
lol
lmao
rofl

>>212374392
rural larp by suburbanites has to be the dumbest american larp out there

>>212368819 (OP)
>$2255 per month in rent
Damn, that's almost as bad as it is here in Turkey.

>>212374392
In my hometown village the cheapest house is like 2x as expensive as in the city I live in

I pay 480EUR for a 1 room apartment in Stockholm.

>>212368819 (OP)
maybe uhhhhhh live with roommates?

>>212368819 (OP)
Unless you live in jew york or the bay area you shouldn't be paying that much to rent

>>212368819 (OP)
Sounds like you live in a libshart shithole

>>212368819 (OP)
Where do you live?
>>212369074
>have a car
All you pay for a month is petrol, what are you on about

>>212368819 (OP)
I pay $1150 for rent and after tax and other stuff pulled straight out of paycheck like the health insurance and retirement I take home $6000 per month. Glad my area isn’t wage depressed and property raped by third world retards yet

>>212368819 (OP)
I pay $2,250 per month on rent. But my take home pay after taxes and deductions is around $8k a month

kek fucking retards cucking out to the social contract

>>212368819 (OP)
I make $2400 per month (after taxes), while my mortgage is $650

>>212369074
>go out with friends
>have a dating life
Who does that?

>>212369266
Ashburn is better

>>212369729
>small single room studio below a family on nafris and above another family if drug-dealing nafris
wholesome

>>212368819 (OP)
I pay $2100 in mortgage on an 1800sqft house with around a $3500 monthly take home

>>212369266
based I'm in Alexandria

>take home $7000 a month after retirement contributions
>rent is $1150 (i have a roommate)

you euroids have no idea how i suffer

>>212380249
> Alexandria
do americans really

>>212380486
the "grand tour" of Ohio o algo

>>212380486
>NOOOOO the founders named your city after a place from classical antiquity in the year 1712, 200 years before my country was formally established???

why are eurangutangs like this?

>>212368819 (OP)
make sure you keep your fridge fully stocked, rentoid

yes you are not allowed to rent that place, should be the someone else, next question

>>212380618
this nigga lives at his dad's house

>>212368819 (OP)
just live in a tent equipped with solar panel

>>212369729
>>212369848
>Some managerial position. Did I forget to mention that about 15 of these hours are unpaid overtime and work on weekends?
>I work 50 hours a week and I earn 3000 deutschmarks before tax
keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek

>>212369988
I'm one year ahead of you, get gud

>>212370053
>Grandparents
The price of housing went up 10 times since then but the salaries didn't

>>212370053
>grandparents
Poortuguese education

>>212370163
Before my friends moved in their gfs, I was living in a house with four other guys and paying $1300 in rent. That was considered godlike and unbelievably cheap to everybody we told.

The fact that I'm paying $2255 for a 1bd in a great location where I don't need a car is actually a great deal. But yeah, I need a gf (not for seggs, for money).

It's hellish here but I'm a 911 dispatcher and it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside when some jewish boomer calls crying about their "rental property" that is full of schizo nigger squatters who are going to burn it down, and the cops won't do anything about it because the home owner lives in alaska and thought it would be easy money to buy a bunch of houses to rent out to entitled millennials

>>212368855
you're too retarded, your money should be given to someone else while you can have a food stamp allowance.

>>212376790
>>212376803
i'm going to kill myself
>>212377532
but then i'd need a car
>>212380249
based

>>212370081
I would unironically move to Poland if I were you

>>212370490
Your boss is abusing you, and you feel you have to put up with it because you fear not being able to find another job. Please quit your job, move if you have to, you can go to any EU country to look for a job

>>212373514
Where do you live where rent is £300 a month?

>>212376790
>>212376803
how old are you guys and what metro do you live in?

>>212368819 (OP)
based

>>212368819 (OP)
Buy a home for 200k with a 5% down payment. Shouldn't take you long

>>212368855
>$2000 for rent
He's right, you could be paying a mortgage with that money

>>212381955
only if you live in a house that's worth <$400,000 and you put like $75,000 down up front.
which means you need to find a shitty house in an economically depressed area and just shit a year's salary out of your ass.

>>212381844
27, i got my masters at 24 which wasnt really relevant to my current job so probably could’ve been 24-25 making similar money. I am just in some midwest city

>>212382151
>economically depressed area
More like just find an area uncontrolled by the jew and their libtarded puppets importing third worlders to replace American citizens. Houses are like $150-400k in my area and I make $105k+ per year. Mass deportations will make housing available for citizens

>>212382270
>>212382489
Are you guys engineers or something?

>>212369729
1.5k net in France is literally minimum wage or some shit, stop lying. Either that or you're in some jeet family business that is a front for money laundering

>>212382561
everyone here is an engineer retard.

>>212368819 (OP)
>$0 rent
>5k monthly income
>paid off car
>zero debt
>70% income goes to my tyrant gf
At least traveling the world is fun

>>212382561
Yeah but plenty of money in trades or nursing too

>>212369256
>baltimore
No I live in canton and my car get jacked on a monthly basis

>>212368819 (OP)
i pay 0 in rent and make €2k a month

>>212381578
Imagine living in such shitty neighborhood so called Arlington than Alexandria

>>212383101
>tfw no tyrant gf
is she hot? does she love you?
if yes to both, then holy fucking goals

>>212383150
>nursing
yes, but that's a relatively recent development. i don't think anybody who started college pre-2015 thought that nursing was gonna be the path to wealth
>trades
is this actually true? every Gen Xer I know in the trades tells young men not to do it. and same for every Gen Xer who owns some random small business. they all want their sons to get 9-5 office jobs with stable salaries and retirement.

>>212383466
Idk about all trades but just some of seen at my company or similar will have high rates for electricians, linemen, etc and good benefits. Probably more overtime than an office job but you get paid hourly instead of salary too. If I wasn’t in my current career I’d go for nursing, trades, or military.

I pay around 550€ on 2750€, saving around 1100€ per month