Thread 212419244

>1500 dollar salary (median wage)
>can barely survive living alone
>insane work hours (leaves home at 7 am, still on his way to home at 10 pm)
>too poor to have a cat
This is third world-tier

>>212419244 (OP)
Worst part about Japan is how soulless and collectivist it is. People joke about how you are nothing more than an economic unit in America but that's literally what you are in Japan. I knew a Japanese dude who offed himself because he was working 80 hour weeks only to go back to a shitty 80 sqft apartment

>>212419244 (OP)
1500 dollars yeah no way , i make like double that and i work in a fucking warehouse.
either this is bait or he isnt a real salaryman like the suit makes it look

>can barely survive living alone
im pretty sure living as a family is significantly cheaper per person than living alone

poland will forever be a shithole because poles are lazy niggers who want to work a maximum of 15 hours a week and have 80 days of paid time off per year.
if our society was more like japanese and ordinary people put in more effort to be productive members of the collective it would be a much nicer country to live in

In Poland there isn't a SINGLE store open 24 hours a day, restaurants close at like 20:30 it's fucking insane it's like a permanent never ending recession where people just sit at home browsing their phones all day long

>>212419400
>either this is bait
It's real

>>212419418
Said fucking useless uncontributive and lazy white nigger who's not working but posting on 4chan.

>>212419418
>poles are lazy niggers who want to work a maximum of 15 hours a week and have 80 days of paid time off per year
Isn't that what we all want?

>>212419244 (OP)
Can I have cute Japanese gf?

>>212419469
so they are at 2008 level of inflation.
maybe i should go there like weebs do and instead of buying tranny merchandise get some real estate

>>212419913
>buying real estate in a dying country that loses 1 million people yearly
You just chose one of the worst countries to invest in. They will never be worth more than what you pay for

>>212420074
Maybe he wants to actually live there, not everyone sees real estate as a financial investment you fucking jew.

>>212419244 (OP)
>work 12 hours a day 6 days a week to scrape by
>y u have no kids

>>212419469
lmao wtf, i knew the yen was weak but has it gotten really this out of hand?

Fuck you gaijins

>>212419244 (OP)
Isn't it crazy how capitalism will drive a population to extinction and replace them with 3rd world labor, only to drive them to extinction when the next source of cheaper labor shows up?

>>212419244 (OP)
and you niggs desperately keep coming to japan and refuse to go back

>>212419469
fuck i visited japan too soon, should have waited

>>212419418
>Poland will forever be a shithole because poles are lazy niggers
>Poland would be better if people worked more
What's stopping you from leaving this place and working two jobs a day on the weekends? Go carry the country on your shoulders

>>212423523
t. zainichi

>>212421599
>work longer than juws
>have your kid penns sucked by old rabbis

>>212419418
>poland will forever be a shithole because poles are lazy niggers who want to work a maximum of 15 hours a week and have 80 days of paid time off per year.
Good?

>>212419244 (OP)
let us all thank god that we are not born in japan

>>212419244 (OP)
>>212423604
Yeah, I know, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR5ApYxkU-U
Just like on my MTV music videos. Crazy shit.

>>212423604
not capitalism's fault that you'd rather goon to anime than breed

Don’t say bullshit about Japan. Don’t come to japan

>>212419244 (OP)
yeah but their average rent is like 500 for an apartment and they have universal healthcare too, so cost of living is something to be considered. minimum wage in japan is 6.35 and rent is 400-600, minimum wage in america is 7.25 and median rent is over 1800

>>212424378
>>212424116
NTA but are you paid to post every time capitalism is mentioned? You keep doing this

>>212423523
fuck you long time

>>212424545
I want to visit Japan though

>>212424895
Don’t come. We don’t welcome

>>212424994
BAAAASED

>>212423910
I was saying in general, not just Japan, also I still have my foreskin since you're interested.

>>212419418
>In Poland there isn't a SINGLE store open 24 hours a day, restaurants close at like 20:30 it's fucking insane it's like a permanent never ending recession where people just sit at home browsing their phones all day long
I have a 24h/7 shop like a kilometer from me. There is plenty of restaurants open to late hours at the city center.
On the other hand, Tokyo becomes a wasteland around the midnight. They don't even have any public transport during night.

Poland isn't very wealthy but we are one of the nicest countries in Europe. Homogeneous society, low crime, modernization only started recently so everything seem so new and fresh compared to the west.

You have no idea how good you have, go travel some more.

>>212423523
>>212424545
Getting angry makes you look pathetic.
If he is wrong theb simply say so and provide some source if you have.
If he is right then accept it like a man.

>>212424994
You do though

>>212424725
I'm not the same anon, but I don't even think it is something exclusive to capitalism, it is also happening in communist China and in North Korea, so it is more like an modernity thing. Maybe during the transition from villages and rural living to cities and urban living, we left things behind that we shouldn't leave behind.
I'm saying this, because if you read Man's Search for Meaning, humanity's capability of enduring things with an positive outlook in life is ridiculously high. Of course that a bunch of people died, however the ones that didn't, a lot of them managed to be just fine afterwards (despite Jews probably being the most neurotic people on Earth, and that maybe this has something epigenetic to do with it, but what do I know, right?).
Well, where was I? Oh tenacity, right? So maybe something in our environment is making us weaker, or something in our old environment used to make us stronger, or maybe even there are multiple factors and it is a mix of those two things. The fact is that it does look like we were getting smarter as time passed, but at the same time, it did seem that we also got more fragile considering our ability to withstand mental breakdowns and psychological stress.
I'm just saying that this whole people being more mentally ill might not be because people are having more access to psychiatrists, and it would be more like then being more neurotic because of some whatever reason. Specially considering that they usually won't look for help or even take meds if their mental condition wouldn't be crippling, there is this too. This whole taking meds as if it is fucking nothing is definitely a new thing that big pharma manage to push to people using a fuck ton of marketing.
Anyway, whatever, this is not my problem, so it is not like I'm that worried about it, because I'm not supposed to solve this shit.

Got any more videos like this?

>>212425264
I think Takeshi might be trying to mislead you for a laugh anon

>>212424047
but i wish to have been born in japan

>>212419244 (OP)
>had to mention cats
why do you care so much about a pest animal

>>212424378
Buddy you're speaking from the bottom of the rung. You're all for this because your poor networth will be next to have your ass turned out for cheap labor. It's a cycle, snd we're all too selfish and greedy to notice the meat grinder ahead.

>>212423910
>Sweden
>1444
hmm...

>>212427384
Guess it's pure cohencidence that that's the year EU4 starts

>>212419244 (OP)
>Start 7AM
>Finish 8PM
No idea how people manage madness like this, I remember working a job where weekend overtime would be about 10 hours after the last shift and I'd always be seething that I did nothing but work-sleep-work if I accepted to come in

>I live in the Japanese equivalent of the third world. For the first time I see many children who do not carry the typical Japanese school bags (randoseru) to school. When I asked a local woman why, she replied that randoseru are too expensive for parents (or grandparents, because they are usually the ones who buy school supplies for primary school). So the kids carry their books in any kind of backpack.

>I live in a place where in a supermarket, when a pensioner is caught stealing a bun, the policeman simply buys him a bun. Because he knows that the grandpa is hungry and cannot afford a bun. And yes, these are rolls, not rice balls, because the bakery is right by the entrance and it's easy to roll something off the table. And there are no barcodes on individual fresh rolls.

>I live in a place where a grandma and grandpa, mom and dad, and two children live in a three-room apartment. They used to live in grandparents' house, but it got to the point where they couldn't afford to keep it. Dad works part-time in a factory, part-time, because the machine replaced the welder. Mom works two shifts at 7-11, but she's happy because it's close to home and she can walk there, so they don't need two cars. Grandpa grows a vegetable patch, without which they probably wouldn't eat anything fresh, because the supermarket is too expensive. And grandma takes care of the kids. They'll go to kindergarten in April. Previously, the family couldn't afford it. Now they are happy that they can finally afford it.

>>212419244 (OP)
>This is third world-tier
In the third world his salary will only go to commute.

>>212419296
sorry about your friend

>>212419244 (OP)
It's still way better than Turkey, or Greece for that matter. Or really any country except the US, Canada, Australia, and a handful of select western European countries.

>>212419244 (OP)
>>212419400
is 1500 really that small in first world countries? with that much money I'd live without a single worry I make 350 a month

>>212431573
Even here it doesn't sound big dude

>>212419244 (OP)
They're concerned with birthrate dropping because they want more slaves to work as much(if not more) than the current workers are working

>>212431611
damn

>>212419244 (OP)
For the median person, life is horrible unless they're in Western Europe, simple as.

>>212419913
>>212423786
>>212424545
>>212424895
>>212424645
found the retarded weebs

>>212419296
Japan is all marketing (including its history). This is why they have such a nice reputation online. They're marketing themselves to death.

>>212419244 (OP)
Where is your shithole?

>>212431775
What's your salary?

>>212419418
>In Poland there isn't a SINGLE store open 24 hours a day, restaurants close at like 20:30 it's fucking insane it's like a permanent never ending recession where people just sit at home browsing their phones all day long
Based. I wish I was pole. Here in Brazil everyone works a minimum of 9 hours per day while working 6 days per week

Only downside of your country is the weather

>>212425044
>Homogeneous society
That's a bad thing when you consider women

>>212420248
It's not real estate then

>>212425664
It's industrialisation. In rural economies having kids makes sense because you can put them to work and generate profits for the parents, now every mildly skilled labour will take at least 20 years to raise.

>>212428036
Despair anon.
Either submit or starve

>>212431573
Same. That's 8k reais here.

I would be living very well with that money

>>212431805
of course 1500 dollar salary

>>212431678
Can I come to your country and enjoy norse lifestyle?

What's the warmest place you got?

>>212431996
Bergen, hope you like rain.

>>212419400
In Japan, the base salary is pretty much shithole-level low, but I get a twice-a-year bonus worth about 2.5 to 3 months’ pay each time, which brings my annual income up to roughly the same level as in Italy.

>>212431925
Kinda, but not really, people are exhausted, anon. It is not that simple, maybe people won't able to thrive in an industrial society, at least on a shorter term, however I'm somewhat optimistic and I think that it is a matter of dealing with certain fundamental issues that are sucking the vitality out of people. Consider what Byung-Chul Han wrote in Burnout Society, they are completely depleted, specially in those Asian countries, and particularly in Japan where urbanization happened very quickly.
Consider the mathematician Euler, he had 13 kids.
>Euler claimed that he made some of his greatest mathematical discoveries while holding a baby in his arms with other children playing round his feet.
This is straight out of his biography. See? It is like I said, healthy people are ridiculously tenacious, they can withstand all sorts of weird shit under the right conditions, but they need the right things.

>>212431973
How much could i get in Brazil with 30K USD?

>>212431573
>I make 350 a month
Whats your job?

>>212432190
part time software dev

>>212432123
>exhausted
you're not exhausted. the stay at home moms with 5 dogs are not 'exhausted'. do people really believe this bullshit? the ones who break their backs just like the peasants did back then are the ones breeding.

>>212432247
That's not bad for a part time job to be honest. That's a full time salary for an experienced employee here.

>>212432170
Per month?
That's 165k. You'll live like king
If it's per year you'll live a middle class life, but very comfy.
Restaurants every day, a woman to please to every 3 days

>>212419244 (OP)
>life was this bad in Japan
thanks to you kurds

>>212432025
I like rain

While it's true that salaries in Japan are relatively low, you can still enjoy a standard of living comparable to other developed nations. This is because essentials like rent is remarkably inexpensive, and public safety is exceptional across the entire country—as safe as an upscale residential area. (For instance, you could leave an iPhone 16 Pro on a city street for 24 hours, and it would most likely not be stolen.)

>>212432310
Yes we are all exhausted.
You're a shut in neet
Shut up
>the ones who break their backs just like the peasants did back then are the ones breeding.
No one's breeding. That's the point

>>212431973
>>212432320
thirdiebros I...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cADH06lKVNA

>>212432333
btw,restaurants in my cunt have the same prices as in Brazil

>>212432333
>>212432453
Stop competing over me
you're making me feel flustered!

>>212432310
They are, that is exactly the point. Why the fuck would someone's body that has a FUCKING NATURAL CLOCK stop alarming? Have you ever seen teenagers? They want to fuck anything and everything. Hormones are one hell of a drug.
>break their backs
>doing exercise
They are exercising, so in a way they either have to be healthy or they can't fucking work. I'm won't bother talking about this with you. You are too stupid for this kind of conversation. Sorry.

>>212432382
>i'm so exhausted of posting on the chins and masturbating
>poor people popping out 5 children and somehow feeeding them aren't
shut the fuck up

>>212419400
The median wage here is like 900 euros, you don't svffer. I bet your cost of living is cheaper too.

>>212432484
>retard literally seeing that shit happen right in front of his eyes
So explain that Japanese dude in the OP. He is just fine and not actually tired and he should find more work or get a job that allows him to work harder because he isn't actually tired.
You are a retard. Just look at things and don't act like you know it better than other people.

>>212419244 (OP)
I need to save a cute hardworking japanese salaryman from that hellhole

>>212432484
>>poor people popping out 5 children and somehow feeeding them aren't
This simply doesn't happen. Look our birthrates.

You're creating a fantasy that doesn't exist in real life

>>212432470
Brazil's weather it better

>poor people exist
>therefore the whole country is bad!

>>212432565
go to any low income area, it's full of single moms living on scraps
also look at shithole's birthrates vs europe
>>212432539
he's richer than most people on earth so yeah
that's not my point though. i'm saying birth rates have nothing to do with being 'tired'. do you think peasants weren't tired?

>>212432595
People generally think of japan as a rich country and not SEA with lighter skin so that's probably the overreaction

>>212432646
And are you even reading my posts? Are you pretending to be a retard?
>Byung-Chul Han wrote in Burnout Society
Do you understand what this book is about? What it says?
And explain this: >>212425664
>Why people are taking more psychiatric drugs on industrialized?

>>212431573
I just graduated Uni and got a job where I earn 3000€ per month (5500 before taxes)

>>212419244 (OP)
>I wonder why the government is worried about the birthrate dropping
>I feel like having kids is a luxury
Well there’s your answer dipshit.

>>212432759
There is that too, the housings that they live is some cuckbox that can barely shelter a single person. Cities are hostile environments to children too.

>>212432554
this but mangaka

>>212432646
>go to any low income area, it's full of single moms living on scraps
Anecdotes then? My evidence is Brazil's birthrate.

>>212432788
Gross

>>212432725
>are you even reading my posts
yes
>Do you understand what this book is about? What it says?
i don't read self-help books
>And explain this
it's a cultural issue, industrialized societies are more individualistic and place less emphasis on things like raising a family.
people might be taking more meds because they lack the social support structures they used to have.

>>212432807
there's an inverse relationship with fertility and income, this isn't anecdotal, it's well documented.

Why are chuds so obssessed with breeding?
I'll stick my dick into a hole and fertilize a woman when i feel ready. Get off my back

>>212432779
All I’m saying is that young men in my city that are working these entry level salaries would have to be getting an abnormally good deal on rent to be able to live without roommates.

If he had a family, he would have a wife, who would probably work, and 2 people to one apartment does not double the cost of the apartment. A lot of young men in developed countries get lost because they and their boomer parents expect them to be economic islands unto themselves and never ever ever to get married young or live with family because saving money makes you a loser.

Basically, what he’s dealing with just isn’t unique to Japan, but Japan may have parts of their culture making that attitude towards living alone more common. This chigga is lonely and lives very near the limits of his means. In a few years he will be promoted and living better, especially if he gets married.

For my part, I got married at 21, and instantly cut my rent in half, didn’t double groceries, and started saving thousands a year in taxes. I’m 24 now and able to save money working part time during grad school because I made sure to apply where I could stay with my parents and because my wife makes the rest of the income until I graduate and we start having a family properly.

My area has a significantly worse income/living cost metric than where he is.

>>212432565
no no, it does happen, its just that everyone else is having so few childran that even the poors cant keep up

>>212432880
Then I suppose everyone in Brazil is rich?

>>212433927
Both of our countries are majority poor.
We would have triple the birthrates even if all richfags refused to breed

Japanese minimum wage: some $7 / hour, no tips ever. Suck on that Japanizu superiority, baka gaijin!

>>212419244 (OP)
>turk shitting on japan's work hours
most people here work 7am to 6pm shifts 6 days a week for 600 euros

>>212434417

In Bangladesh or India it's probably 200-300 for the same amount of work. However, nobody is saying any of these countries offer a great quality of life, while tons of baka fools out there think that Japan is the golden key to a better life.

>>212419244 (OP)
I make $500 per month in worse conditions and with a more work hours.

>>212434509
More people are obsessed with shitting on the nips than there are people who legitimately think it’s heaven on Earth. Me personally, I just like safe clean streets and polite people (and no niggers).

>>212434544
How do you find the energy to shitpost on int

test

>>212426282
It's the kind of pet which doesn't needs as much care as a dog, and you could have in a small appartment (assuming there's no rules against it).