Thread 212471796

What went so wrong with Japanese electronics and technologies?

20 years ago, companies like Sony, Panasonic, Toshiba, Hitachi, Sharp, Sanyo, Casio, Hitachi, Olympus, Seiko, Sharp, NEC etc dominated the electronics industry but today they are a mere shell of what they used to be like

>refrigerators, washmachines, vacuums, batteries, and air conditioners
>Laundry machines, including washer-dryers
>lithium-ion and flash memory your phone uses were created by Japanese
>Hitachi Building Systems is the second largest manufacturer of elevators in Japan
>DSLR cameras
>LCD
>LED blue light
>fiber optic communications
>the first bullet train (Shinkansen)
>CD was created by Sony based on PCM sound source
>Video Home System (VHS), which preceded the DVD, was invented by Victor Company of Japan
>DVD
>Blu-Ray discs
>Japanese cellphone
>Nintendo
>SEGA MEGA DRIVE, SEGA SATURN, SEGA DREAMCAST
>PlayStation, PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3

>>212471796 (OP)
She has Korean boyfriend.

Did you make this fucking thread in /g/ too?
Either way my answer stays. It was protectionism insulting their industries so they dominated the domestic market. They were more coddled than US auto makers, and combined with a conservative business culture of course they didn't try to innovate that hard.

>>212471838
Insulating*

Imagine coming home, slipping on a banana pee, and landing face first right on Freya's armpit.

>>212471883
i would explode just like that

>>212471838
The strong Yen also impacted their competitiveness as Korea and China start getting into electronics

>>212471823
You wish bugman, this if white women's first reaction when they see your bug face lol

>>212471967
True, but if they weren't coddled by their government's policies they'd have been forced to adapt to keep their domestic market. The 1:1 between Japanese computer and appliance industries and American auto industry is funny really.

Hey summon now? Creepy Asian man in California?

>>212471796 (OP)
>>212471862
She's hitting 30 soon

>>212472062
ripe>immature

>>212471975
honestly yeah i don't care though
i hope to make every woman's day worse

>>212471796 (OP)
CHINA does the work better at a fraction of the cost

>>212471975
brutal

>>212471796 (OP)
>refrigerators
Became completely unprofitable as China and Korea dumping cheap products below cost. Everything China and Korea touch ends up the same way. (Like shipbuilding).

>washmachines
Ditto

>vacuums
Still Japan is the market leader today. I don't think there any rivals in this industry, since pneumatic is a niche and unsung hero-like business.

>batteries
All guk makers ended up in the red (lol), while Panasonic is making a profit by supplieing to Tesla. Even iPhone's battery is still produced by Japan.

>air conditioners
Daikin has just become the market leader, beating Chinese makers in high-end section. In the first place, the compressors that Chinese makers use are produced at Toshiba's China factory.

>Laundry machines
Same as other China and Korea dumping fields.

>lithium-ion and flash memory your phone uses
Still huge market share Japan keeps, as iPhone 16 and 17 use Japanese suppliers.

>Hitachi Building Systems
Idk much about this, but Hitachi is an infrastructure titan, they are like No.2 company in the world.

>DSLR cameras
Ended up Sony's domination. All phone camera, car cameras, robot cameras are now produced by Sony.

>fiber optic communications
Dominating tech patents, probably still the industrial leader today.

>the first bullet train (Shinkansen)
Chinks lied to us. Japan allowed China to use bullet train technology only for domestic use, but they ignored and exported their high-speed rails to SEA. This one really leaves bad blood.

>Japanese cellphone
Moved to iPhone's tier 1 supplier jobs.

>PlayStation, PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3
Sony is the market leader in gaming, beating Microsoft's gaming division.

Society didn't need to advance beyond the technological level of 2006 so I respect Japan.

The internet being omnipresent on phones is a cancer.

>>212471796 (OP)
highly overrated country by low iq weebs
50 years ago there was literally zero competition
put out any old garbage and it would sell
now that japs actually have to compete they've been exposed for the trash ass motherfuckers that they are

>>212472402
Basically this. At the rate China is going, Japan and by extension, Korea, are going to be hit hard. They had a good run at least.

>>212473170
50 years ago, Japan competing with US and Euro. They started seething after Japan's auto industry became bigger then theirs.

US forced Japan to adopt super high-currency, which is disadvantageous for export and cheap electronics, and now you seeing made-in-China crap easily broken in months.

>>212473253
america gave the transistor technology to japan for free

>>212472740
> Clean and spotless pits
> Pink soles
This video is to brown women what Codex Pajeet is to South Asians.

>>212473298
Yes, Sony brought transistor to Japan through the right deal with US

>>212473253
stop being delusional
your currency was forced back to parity after being manipulated low
trump was right about you japs
spoiled freeloading brats

>>212471796 (OP)
They still make good electronics, there's just more competition now. People have misgivings about Japanese business but they're more stable and reliable than western amerigolem and europoor businesses that are dominated by immature literal autists and jeets

>>212471796 (OP)
Casio is still the only watch company to make watches used by the armed forces regularly

>>212471796 (OP)
>>212471862
>>212472740
>>212472779
oh my god she is so attractive

>>212471975
she is not very attractive, would not bang

>>212471975
i could not take what a butch dyke looking soccer mom has to say about my race to be quite honest

>>212471796 (OP)
Japanese products are still generally high quality it's just China flooded everything with cheaper alternatives

>>212473498
simp

>>212471796 (OP)
>>212471838
Chinese and Koreans stole Japanese Research and Development.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_espionage

i will stop following this bitch and remove resident evil from my library if she does any kind of actual pornography

she's already a gravure model which is a form of softporn lol

>>212473768
nope, there a huge gap

> nafri sees a bikini shoot as porn
thats cool. keep it at that

>>212473795
>>212473801
cope lol

>>212471796 (OP)
Nothing went wrong. They just control everything behind the scenes now and offshored some of the manufacturing.

>>212471796 (OP)
Japanese society abolished the free competition in a free market capitalist system. Instead, it adopted socialism.

Japanese society has spent unlimited amounts of money on welfare, and existing large companies have been given preferential treatment by the government through tax systems, subsidies, and the manipulation of the yen exchange rate.

The so-called silver democracy has reinforced this trend.

As a result, Japanese companies have been left behind by global trends in technology and economics, and have been overtaken by other countries.

Japanese people comfort themselves by reading the so-called "translation blogs" and watching YouTube videos that show how amazing Japan is. Yes, these are copiums.

Capitalism is great. Free competition is great.

I started to like this Dutch woman because you people often post her pics and webms.

>>212474411
you are lucky you can get all her photobooks

>>212474073
20 years ago Japan's prime minister was Junichiro Koizumi, who's best remembered for selling off the post office. The DPJ held power for a mere four years.
Are we calling Abenomics socialist now?

>>212475044
I wouldn't pay money for some complete stranger that there's zero possibility of interacting with or shagging. I just collect the pics and webms that you people have posted.

>>212475140
Abenomics is part of socilism trend of Japan. The ultimate purpose of Abenomics is to support the existing large companies that once made Japan an economical and industrial giant after the war, through the manipulation of Japanese stock prices and JPY exchange rate.

The government manipulated the stock prices of Japanes private companies, pumping the enormous amount of tax money. If it's not socialism, what is socialism?

>>212475127
Abenomics is part of socilism trend of Japan. The ultimate purpose of Abenomics is to support the existing large companies that once made Japan an economical and industrial giant after the war, through the manipulation of Japanese stock prices and JPY exchange rate.

The government manipulated the stock prices of Japanes private companies, pumping the enormous amount of tax money. If it's not socialism, what is socialism?.

I believe that much of Japanese manufacturing failed to transition into a high-end phase that Western Europeans were able to. Rich people will gladly pay for luxurious Euro stuff but just wouldn't do the same for Jappo stuff

>>212475387
I bought an expensive Japanese made Ibanez guitar and two Yonex rackets. Please use my money well and make some babies

>>212474073
Japan is leading almost all the next-gen technology. Upcoming iPhone 17 will feature Japan's newest battery (silicon anode), newest node mobile DRAM, more layer NAND, vapor chamber, etc. Logic chip is Taiwan job. The product is a technological crystal of US/Japan/Taiwan.

>>212475387
Idk what you are talking about. Lexus is widely regarded as the best luxury car. Even material-based, the highest added value steel, plastic, rubber are all produced by Japanese makers. Euro can't compete with Japan in these fields.

they probably still dominate niche B2B areas invisible to the public

>>212476203
You get it right. As China shitting up B2C, Japanese companies moving to B2B because more profitable.

>>212476203
North Korea has surpassed Japan in terms of manufacturing nuclear warheads and launching ICBMs. However, their people are starving, and every citizen, from schoolchildren to high-ranking officials, must collect human faeces for one month a year to use as fertiliser in agriculture.

Being technologically advanced doesn't necessarily mean the country is wealthy.

>>212476406
You shouldn't be allowed to talk about technology. You sound really idiotic. I bet you can't name a single part of iPhone BOM.

>>212476709
Yes? Japanese stuff are simply superior from material-based.

Steel industry earnings (2024)
- Nippon Steel (JP): $5.47 billion
- ArcelorMittal (EU): $3.93 billion
- Nucor (US): $3.13 billion
- Tenaris (EU): $2.88 billion
- Steel Dynamics (US): $2.03 billion
- POSCO (KR): $2.03 billion
- JFE Holdings (JP): $1.99 billion
- Tata Steel (India): $1.83 billion
- Bao Steel (CN): $1.50 billion
- US Steel (US): $0.43 billion
- Cleveland-Cliffs (US): -$0.58 billion

Rubber industry earnings (2024)
- Bridgestone (JP): $3.68 billion
- Michelin (FR): $2.75 billion
- Continental (GE): $2.32 billion
- Hankook Tire (KR): $1.48 billion
- Goodyear (US): $0.84 billion
- Pirelli (IT): $0.76 billion
- Yokohama Rubber Company (JP): $0.74 billion
- Sailun Group (CN): $0.70 billion
- Madras Rubber Factory (India): $0.33 billion

Lexus uses 2.0GPa-grade hot-stamped high-tensile steel for the B-pillar, achieving both weight reduction and collision safety. Toyota says it is the world's first application. This is why Lexus is known as the most reliable car on earth.

>>212476536
> Bringing up a chart with no unit
> Talking big about technology

There's no point in talking with you. You can leave now.

bros, should i jerk off to her?

>>212476961
Kys low IQ

>>212476966
Why not? isn't that like your common law right o algo

高張力鋼なんて別に珍しくなくね?日本の優れた技術ではあるんだろうけど。

>>212477009
Nippon Steel beats its rivals in earnings, this is all because Japan produces more added-value special steel. With the US Steel acquisition, Nippon Steel is only going to grow even more.

>>212471796 (OP)
anime and its consequences

>>212477007
i guess you're right!

dude, Japan is now poorer than ex-communist eastern European shitholes, there is something seriously wrong with the current generation of working age Japanese, they can't innovate, they can't work, they probably sit all day at home alone and jerk off to anime

>>212477355
GDP is a meme. Market cap reveals a country’s true weight in the capital-driven world.

Stock Market Capitalization by Country - 2025-05
- China: $9.9T
- Japan: $6.7T
- India: $4.3T
- Taiwan: $2T
- South Korea: $1.7T

Japan's $6.7T market cap is double Germany’s $2.9T, which will upset GDP purists. Japan punches above its weight in corporate scale, and investor participation.

>>212477355
Toyota alone mogs all the Euro car brands combined. All because Japanese dudes are innovate-maxxing, and work-maxxing.

ここで日本人ポスターがどれだけ日本の技術力の高さを訴えても、日本の外貨獲得には1銭も寄与しないだろw

B2Bの注文単価がB2Cよりも高いのなんて当たり前すぎねえか
規模と利益率の方がよっぽど重要じゃね

最終製品の市場が中韓の安売り戦略で荒らされたから技術が物を言うB2Bに日本企業が移行したのか?
違うと思うなぁ
サムスン、ファーウェイ、シャオミが作ってるようなスマホ、日本企業には作れないだろ、作ろうと思っても

このポスター、日本スゴイ動画でオナニー漕いてるニートとか老人といっしょだろ

>>212471796 (OP)
The world's largest air conditioning (AC) company, based on revenue, is Daikin Industries.

>>212471796 (OP)
Japan has a monopoly on medical cameras like colonoscopy cameras

>>212477481
Why you even want to make cheap phones for poor browns. A random Apple supplier's supplier makes more money than China's supposed big tech.

Earnings in 2024
- Apple (US): $125.67 billion
- Xiaomi (CN): $3.38 billion

funny dance

>>212477452
toyota is prevalent on this list solely because they make so many disposable econoboxes that are cheap enough for people in developing countries

>>212477313
Is it possible for your government to enact anti-wank laws because your country lacks entrenched human rights like the US?

>>212478810
Wow, didn't know Australia was a developing country

>>212473573
Average white woman who dates Asian men

>>212471796 (OP)
>wrong
The fact that Japan's labor costs have skyrocketed, leading to a proliferation of factories in Korea and China.

>>212478873
our most common cars used to be locally made brands but it became unsustainable because of modern economics in the 21st century
*shrug*

>>212475387
People do pay premium prices for Japanese knives to name something.