Why did Western Europeans historically outperform Eastern Europeans? - /int/ (#212473804) [Archived: 483 hours ago]

Anonymous Saudi Arabia
7/6/2025, 10:40:27 AM No.212473804
chud questioning
chud questioning
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Anonymous Germany
7/6/2025, 10:42:26 AM No.212473846
>>212473804 (OP)
faustian spirit
Anonymous Finland
7/6/2025, 10:42:41 AM No.212473850
eastern european plain
eastern european plain
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>>212473804 (OP)
because this serves as a perfect battleground
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Anonymous Sweden
7/6/2025, 10:47:31 AM No.212473925
>>212473804 (OP)
Better access to the sea and natural borders like straits and mountains
Anonymous Italy
7/6/2025, 10:48:33 AM No.212473946
>>212473850
are u aware that same plain goest straight to the the french atlantic coast?
Anonymous Lithuania
7/6/2025, 10:49:17 AM No.212473962
>>212473804 (OP)
purely socio-geographic factors
Anonymous Italy
7/6/2025, 10:49:35 AM No.212473967
>>212473804 (OP)
roman vs byzanthine heritage, basically.
Anonymous Poland
7/6/2025, 10:55:52 AM No.212474125
>historically
the history is a lie
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Anonymous Poland
7/6/2025, 11:10:55 AM No.212474426
>>212474125
das rite
we wuz kangz
Anonymous United States
7/6/2025, 11:11:50 AM No.212474447
>>212473804 (OP)
r1BBC genes
Anonymous Estonia
7/6/2025, 11:34:47 AM No.212474942
I imagine mongol raids/looting set all their victims back by centuries
besides everything else mentioned in this thread
Anonymous Poland
7/6/2025, 11:37:47 AM No.212475016
1715805146411270
1715805146411270
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>>212473804 (OP)
French people couldn't even invent forks until Poles showed them how to eat with something others than their dirty hands
Anonymous Poland
7/6/2025, 11:39:30 AM No.212475057
immanuel kant about poles
immanuel kant about poles
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>>212473804 (OP)
different models of development, intensive vs extensive, middle class-based society vs aristocracy-based society
Anonymous Poland
7/6/2025, 11:48:15 AM No.212475250
>>212473804 (OP)
There's a theory that the Plague (which mostly avoided eastern Europe) caused major labour shortages which made peasants more valuable, liberated them from serfdom and contributed to socio-economic reforms in northwestern Europe that didn't take place in the east
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Anonymous Poland
7/6/2025, 11:50:48 AM No.212475308
>>212475250
This theory is rather weird since even after plague, western Europe was still more densely populated than eastern Europe + in eastern Europe serfdom was gradually getting more and more harsh all the way until 18th century when it reached the peak, 500 years after the plague, so it really couldn't have any special impact anymore.
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Anonymous Poland
7/6/2025, 11:52:45 AM No.212475361
>>212475308
not to mention, that serfdom in eastern Europe was so harsh BECAUSE of constant lack of workforce, not because of overpopulation or something. This is why nobles didn't want to let their peasants migrate to the cities (there were heavy restrictions), because they were always short of workforce on their farms.
Anonymous United Kingdom
7/6/2025, 12:03:49 PM No.212475670
>>212475250
>caused major labour shortages which made peasants more valuable, liberated them from serfdom and contributed to socio-economic reforms in northwestern Europe that didn't take place in the east
That has no impact outside of grain production
Anonymous Austria
7/6/2025, 12:50:11 PM No.212477060
>>212473804 (OP)
Define western and eastern Europe, and you will answer your own question.
Anonymous Japan
7/6/2025, 12:54:48 PM No.212477191
>>212473804 (OP)
"eastern europe" historically doesn't exist.
it had existed only after WW2 until the fall of Soviet.
Anonymous Italy
7/6/2025, 1:07:28 PM No.212477541
anything besides communism is wrong
Anonymous Russian Federation
7/6/2025, 1:17:24 PM No.212477802
>>212473804 (OP)
our slavix jewel of eastern european Polan will soon outperform westoids