Thread 212544269

incel freak edition

Any of you niggas from the Gherkin that wanna bring it, bring it
But we ain't singin', we bringin' drama
Fuck you and yo' motherfuckin' mama
We gon' kill all you motherfuckers
Now, when I came out, I told you it was just about Rorke
Then everybody had to open they mouth with a motherfuckin' opinion
Well, this is how we gon' do this
Fuck leftypol, fuck Rorke
Fuck the cronem as a staff, gentleman's club, and as a motherfuckin' crew
And if you wanna be down with Mickey Mouse, then fuck you too
Katy girl, fuck you too
All you motherfuckers, fuck you too
All of y'all motherfuckers, fuck you, die slow, motherfucker
My .44 make sure all y'all kids don't grow
You motherfuckers can't be us or see us
We motherfuckin' Thug Life riders, London Eye, 'til we die
Out here in London, nigga, we warned ya we'll bomb on you motherfuckers
We do our job
You think you mob? Nigga, we the motherfuckin' mob

fatmong angrily stuffing big macs down his gob thinking his massive belly and fat rolls are “gains”

which of you thick cunts got vodafone rangebanned again

going back to the drawing board for good post ideas. was a shambles last thread

>>212544317
Is it? I'm on O2 and about to switch, not sure who to switch to

>>212544315
he's getting big

>>212544315
you'd know about being fat spainlard lol

>>212544317
based mousenonce making phoneposting mongs seethe

the London Eye mandem are having a full on war with the Gherkin cronem
Katy has already picked her favourite side
she fuckin in the london eye these days

>>212544269 (OP)
BIC

>>212544341
mousenonce is EE
>t. have landed on his IPs on several occasions

screaming

>>212544352
mousenonce literally buys simcards in bulk from loads of different networks and ban evades on them then melts them down for gold. he’s on every network

mumberg and dadstein getting to the age where they're asking me about grandchildren. don't have the heart to tell them that they raised me to be the most sexless freak this side of the Humber and that their hope for having grandchildren almost entirely rests on the shoulders of my staunchly anti-natal lesbian sister.

I think being a black woman would be pretty awful

might pop to sainos

Well that's two weeks and three days until 4chan gets banned in the Online Safety Bill
Hope you lads have enjoyed posting here over the years

>>212544376
Fucking screaming, mental how this is a real person who we speak to every day and not a cartoon

UFFFFFFFF

hate that cunt who links to previous threads pretending they're the new, hope he chokes to death on a ham sandwich

>>212544396
The sharty awaits

>>212544396
>Hope you lads have enjoyed posting here over the years
Not really but thanks

most experienced manager at work left recently, had been there 9 years. The manager who came in to replace her has done nothing of note except gather the department to give us all loud bollocking for not hitting targets and now she's been signed off for "stress".

The only remaining manager is also new, and is an FtM troon. I don't have anything against her as such, just seems like a normal lesbian. But she doesn't do much, mainly fucks around on the computer.

Anyway like 4 or 5 very experienced staff members have left in the wake of this, moral is very low and there is a strange heavy atmosphere about the place. Makes me wonder if I need to be thinking about leaving too but at the same time I feel like it's not my problem if the department is run poorly, I just do my work and leave.

Do you lads take creatine? I want to get big but don’t want to go bald

mad how the Normans destroyed pretty much everything north of the Humber river and now the only major city between Leeds and Scotland is Newcastle. 1000 years and the region still hasn't really recovered. menul.

um

>>212544444
octotrips! a rare occasion my sir

We at /brit/ say RIP to Lord Tebbit and give our condolences to his family.

>>212544451
I take creatine. It pretty much does nothing, but I reckon if you're in the gym 5 times a week you'll notice a difference.

>>212544465
was he a rorke?

>>212544451
just go to greggs and stuff your face mate, forget all that supplement shite. eat big = get bi- *dies of a heart attack at age 42*

10th July 2025 - the day the /brit/ riots began, culminating in the Monty Pyke putsch

>>212544444
Whats up with indians and getting hit by trains?

>>212544458
fucking new fag
it's called quints

>>212544451
>i love my hair so much i happily waste money on shampoo!
state of you

if you had me for an hour an I couldn't say no, what would we be doing?

>>212544487
Bodied that fat spastic

>>212544498
I'd be making you kiss me and cuddle me and kiss me and say reassuring things about me

I knew a lad who looked just like Rumpelstiltskin from Shrek

are the ops in the room with us now?

>>212544451
Never seen the point of it really, I think there is some research coming out about it having some potential adverse effects or how it could be linked to that now. How I see it is that unless I need the very marginal performance increase, which I don't since everything I do is recreational, then I avoid supplementation of most kinds and just prefer to eat whole foods
t. 240kg+ deadlifter

>>212544430
>>212544524
Don't know what ops are and I'll ask you to stop speaking in this stupid zoomer talk

THE MESSSSAGEEE

just take steroids for a few months

>>212544514
aw pookie!

>>212544386
my 'rents don't even bother to talk about it, reckon they could tell which way the wind was blowing years ago

>>212544487
still seething lol

>>212544487
SCREAMING

went to buy mangoes
got drenched in sweat
will take a bath

>>212544546
Zoomers are old now brah, Generation Alpha is the new kid on the block

>>212544451
no but i heard it has brain benefits alongside the athletic benefits

Can you believe that these people were zoomers?

https://youtu.be/Tvt_7mlX-Z0?feature=shared&t=31

>>212544586
zoomer
gen alpha
these are american concepts
don't use them

The Belgian just text me, he'll be on in ten minutes

>>212544396
thought it already came in

Millennial-Zoomer pact against Generation Alpha when?

>Japan generally has a much lower crime rate than the UK. Recorded offences in England and Wales are roughly fifteen times higher than in Japan, after adjusting for population size. Japan is considered one of the safest countries, particularly in terms of violent crime.
What is different about Japanese culture that leads to lower crime?

>>212544396
>>212544420
>>212544423
>>212544634
you lads are welcome to colonise bharat chan

>>212544642
never
it is a zoomer-alpha pact against soilennials

>>212544658
Less white people

>>212544658
Lower testosterone levels

>>212544658
NPC people

>>212544658
fewer you know whats

>>212544662
thanks, I'll use a VPN and LARP as a dalit

>>212544451
take steroids like a real man

>>212544549
>ya know

>>212544658
leftypol conjuring up every excuse under the sun to avoid saying its because of immigration

>brits will become refugees from 4chan on jeet chan
poetic

>>212544670
Gen Alpha will view Zoomers as old fogies

mental how I look genuinely quite attractive in the M&S changing rooms and literally no-where else

the 27 year old british man comeback arc begins with a costco membership subedition

>>212544713
reckon they would have lower crime even if the uk were 100% white. asians are superior to white apes

Spainsbury's

>>212544675
*fewer
northern runt

hope vtmb 2 is good, but i don't have high hopes given all the delays and the fact that the example protagonist in promotional material looks a lot like the one from the saints row reboot. going to be woke shite probably

Will be LARPing as farmer caste

>>212544570
have they got other daughters/sons they can rely on or are you their only hope?

Mental how women look genuinely quite attractive in the M&S changing rooms and literally no-where else

>>212544752
inferior to similarly rated white women

yeah I'm thinking kino is on the menu tonight

how does leftypol explain various things?

mad how indians are racist against other types of indians
that's like being proud of being the tallest midget at the freak show

Ofcom playing whack-a-mole on whatever site we end up on
Heard news sites are exempt so maybe we could find refuge in the daily mail comment section

Mumberg's birthday today lads

>>212544790
leftypols don't explain anything they just shout louder and call you a bigot

>>212544546
Ops, or opps (opponents), are a slang for enemies. Typically within gang contexts.

Don't think I've ever seen my roommate get a glass of water. In fact come to think of it I've never even seen him with bottled water. I think he gets all his fluids from soft drink, coffee and beer.

Genuinely puzzled how such people exist

>>212544781
Except white women are more like males

surprised i've never slipped in the shower and shattered the glass and sliced myself open and bled to death

>>212544807
happy birthday to your mumberg
how old is she?

>>212544817
Ktim

Always on the apple and blackcurrant squash

>>212544796
yeh they're all s_bhuman

>>212544826
sometimes slip and think I should get one of those old people shower mats but then I get out the shower and forget all about it

Quentin's listening

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS3HgiHPYcs

>>212544757
two daughters that grew up relatively normal so I guess they're banking on them

>>212544823
No they're not. What or earth are you talking about? I bet you never leave your room

chatgpt always tries to talk me out of it when i tell it about my opioid use, but when i mention doing steroids it's more than happy to support my decision and give me tips on how to cycle properly

>>212544850
they rap a lot of about shooting people in this song. music like this that glorifies violence should be banned and no surprise it's only wogs who make it

Got a headache today lads. Took some paracetamol but it's come back 4 hours later.
Think this is it. Vax status is triple vaxxed

If you're up and out the house by 6AM it's like travelling back in time to England, 1994.

>>212544658
Unironically probably genetics - they have less Monoamine oxidase A; aka the "Warrior Gene". (Note, this part of the Wikipedia article has since been removed... for some reason...)

>>212544386
Use sperm donation websites. Many of the women there aren't fussy. Often career women who left it late.
Your parents deserve grandkids.

>>212544909
I'm only 5'8. If I were a woman I'd steer well clear of my spunk on that basis alone.

Is Quentin Irish diaspora?

is it true you can't donate sperm if you're under 5'10?

>>212544909
there are standards he probbaly doesn't reach to be a doner and that doesn't mean the mother would want this bloke's parents intruding on her life
get a clue

>>212544933
nice humblebrag

>>212544386
desu, if you're from up there it's probably best you let your genepool die off

>>212544868
They absolutely are, you're choosing to be blind if you can't see that one, even regular people can acknowledge that

>>212544933
Honestly that would not be an issue. These women are desperate to have a baby.

>>212544955
you have to be 6' iirc

>>212544960
>humblebrag
LOL

>>212544964
You're just biased against white women because you could never date one. That's why you're coping with shitskins.
Textbook white incel cope.

i've got the timid slave gene

Any NEET slugs in

>5'8
it's OVER

>russian tennis bint
it's SHARAPOVA

got the sit in my room all day and wank myself silly but occasionally go on incel-walks gene

>5'3
But what if I told you I also had an attitude?

>>212544807
give her a shag for me would ya

There are websites where you can donate sperm directly to women without needing to use a sperm bank.
The women on these sites are usually desperate to have a kid and won't mind too much what the donor father looks like.
You can make an arrangement with the woman to see the kids be listed on the birth certificate if you so wish.

rorke pioneering new jean-editing techniques soiling his next jeans

>>212544991
You're coping right there and the way you talk about white women tells me you're either a midwit /pol/ Rorke or a Rasheed, you lose either way

British lawyer for Hamas says “kick Zionism to death”

Totally agree. TZD. Any right wing grifter channel says otherwise are just Israeli shills

mad how it rained non-stop for 2 years and yet we still have to crack out the hosepipe ban because our infrastructure hasn't been improved, expanded, updated, or repaired since the 1980s

'Ee by gum reckon it's 'eck as 'ell like

Jermaine Defoe is like 5'7-ish
>it's because he's a rich footballer
You really think a horny guy like Defoe would be a sexless incel if he were a nobody?

>>212545068
>rained non-stop for 2 years
don't remember this

All ive got on the agenda for today is to shower and brush my teeth. not done either since Saturday.

>>212545068
will football stadiums be banned from watering their pitches or will they predictably get an exception because uhhh man need to kick ball?

mad how I sit in my room farting all day without noticing the smell until mumberg comes in and starts seething about it
literally just barged into my room and warned me not to light any matches
bit rude

>>212545046
the fit

>>212545068
Do poortheners really just start hosing each other down when it gets hot?

>>212544269 (OP)
Genuinely baffles me that men will look at that scenario: A woman dressing up like a slut, telling someone else to record her, acting innocent, somehow not bringing attention to the fact she's a sex working whore, and think "damn what a wife, she'd totally quit doing this if I dated her"

The strangest thing is seeing good-looking 6'4" white guys with 5-foot, ugly chinkoids

>>212545098
He would be a rapist. Probably is despite his fame and fortune.

>>212545098
the cronem

>Humiliating moment Emmanuel Macron is ignored by wife Brigitte as he offers her a helping hand off the plane
At least she didn't hit him this time

>>212545114
no mate we have these things lawns because we aren't packed into boxes we give mr patel £5k a month to live in

>>212545098
poor matey's genes got utterly bleached

teacherberg yelled at me for using the word "serial" once, don't know what his problem was

>>212545154
not his lmao

>>212545124
Does it happen with you??

The astrology chart for Lord Tebbit. Their love conquered hate. The South Node in Libra suggests he and Lady Tebbit had been together, in a previous life. What a horoscope.

>>212545164
in what context?

>>212545150
My building has a maintained communal garden actually

how can britbongs be incel with all the horny paki girls in UK?

>>212545154
I'm pretty sure that's not his kid. He's known for spending time with sick kids in hospital

>>212545180
said "i'm super serial" like how al gore says it in south park

>>212545193
We don't want brownskins because they're racially inferior to us. Why should we settle for something inferior?

>>212545193
It's just the one mong spamming the same images over and over

bollock poo

just went up to that viral potato food truck and tried being clever but they done me and send me flying. i reckon with editing as well i'm going to look like an absolute gormless twat

been on the ol' 'scape for about 2 weeks now

>>212545193
what caste are you

>>212544269 (OP)
>incel freak edition
Topical. Mamdani wrote this in college. His subversive politics are just intellectualized inceldom

slept from 6pm to 1am then from 5am to 11am

Jermaine Defoe is 5'7 and has slept with over a thousand pretty white women
If he weren't famous and rich his laycount would still be 100+

>>212545243
>have to pay for membership
>only do non-member skills
odd

>>212545255
hi adam

had to do my shopping at Sainsburys instead of the usual Tesco and it's fucking shite

the food genuinely all tastes bad and weird and to cap it all off it's more expensive than tesco. Who is using Sainsburys as their go-to supermarket? These people need their heads examined.

>>212545193
because the incel beggers here are still picky af

>>212545255
Do you want to suck him off, fucking sounds like it

>>212545280
Loki's fault.

>>212545270
never said i was a member, sticking to f2p until i'm at least in full rune

>Man dies after running on to runway and getting 'sucked into jet engine' as plane prepared for take-off
Passengers would've seen that

>>212545277
No
He's proof you don't need to be tall to pull women

>>212545280
kek based AI
>>212545252
why, wanna fina a same caste wife for me?

>>212545273
Don't know anyone who goes to do a big shop at sainos id only pop in to get a drink or meal deal

>>212545242
i think they only upload the video if you're an attractive woman. you're safe

>>212545254
living the dream aren't you mate

All about the vibes..

>>212545242
You'll be put up here as a meme, you'll be 'gormless Rorke', the lads here will eviscerate you so much

i'm a dalit

>>212545360
You're the lit guy?

I saw it once..

If you've never walked into a Schindler Lift and made a joke about it you're a soulless ghoul no matter how much of a low-hanging fruit it is.

mum has some rich friends and they tried to set her up with a guy worth hundreds of millions but she turned him down because he was "ugly"

Truth nuke...

Morning team. Got laser appointment soon. Then I'll have a look around the shops.

Finally getting the hang of Kingdom Hearts RE Chain of Memories. The card mechanic takes some getting used to but is actually alright. I beat Atlantica last night. Next up is Neverland, Hollow Bastion and Hundred Acre Woods and then it's the end game. I need to buy Death Stranding 2 as well.

Up to episode 21 of Digimon Adventures. Still enjoying it. Might play some Digimon games on the PlayStation actually.

>>212545397
such a pathetic speccy virge joke

>>212545349
Link the channel?

fairly certain I could survive a lift cable snapping and the lift dropping in free-fall 20 floors to the ground below by bracing my back against one wall and my legs against the other and pushing as hard as I could

I don't need to know the physics of it, I just know it would work.

Exhuming sexual energy

>>212545397
I only use bennie lifts

-

might pick up nvidia gtx5600 swag bag razer gamer enthusiast gunnar optiks cs 1.6 mouse and keyboard by just using the code below it's that easy boom chika wow wow

>>212545452
you'd be turned into mush lad

>>212545452
Just jump as it's about to hit the ground

>>212545471
would you make the joke if you had the chance?

oh my daysssss Rorke thought he was being clever at the potato food truck

work experience girl in the office this week. she's 16.

>>212545491
It would probably work for him if you think about it, ockham's razor and all that

>>212545397
I made it once and sent my family flying, they were creasing so much, dunno why since it's such a basic joke but somehow it landed very well with the parentbergs and siblingsteins

>>212545477
do you think this is the frontpage of 4chan?

just had eggs with my meal deal instead of crisps, I'm a changed man

>>212545522
ok?

>>212545522
>Anon, we think it would be best if you do your work from home for a bit

Safe to day Russian.

>>212545522
Rorke sent out on field missions for the week to avoid them two interacting

>>212545529
egg boy

adansonia grandidieri subedish

10.

>>212545525
When I make the joke it's because I'm witty, funny and observational.
When Dadberg made the joke weeks later it's because he's lazy, low-brow, and it has already been done before.

going out to greggs later on to engage in civil dialogue with my opp, greggs being a neutral venue loyal to neither side

nobody loves me, not even my mum

what dessert do you get in greggs?

for me it's the fudge doughnut

>>212545581
um

Hell.

>>212545610
cinnamon swirl

>>212545432
Finally getting the cock and bollocks lasered off are you

Should I get Total War Three Kingdoms or should I get a girlfriend and a clue

>>212545646
very nice, never had it

is it massive? Their belgiun buns are fucking huge.

>>212545616
Safe to say Russian..

>>212545650
gfs don't grow on trees unfortunately, best stick to your little virgin games for now

workmen outside making donkey kong sounds

>>212545522
mad how fit they are at that age

>>212545658
don't know, i wasn't referring to greggs as i've never been to a greggs because it doesn't exist in australia, i have however been to other bakeries

>>212545663
fair enough sarge

hate when i accidentally cut someone off in traffic and they beep at me and i just kind of have to sit awkwardly with them behind me until one of us has to turn, i'm such a spastic on the road honestly, my licence should be revoked

>>212545678
fair enough. Do you guys have a greggs equivalent?

it's a bit of an oddity in the UK in that it's kind of a meme establishment at this point but they do massive profits year on year and keep expanding. Every high street has a greggs (or multiple) and they're all always rammed.

When I was in school all the other lads in my class shot up to 6ft+ in year 11/12. Not me though.

>>212545719
we've got loads of different ones ie baker's delight and michel's patisserie, none of them seem to really dominate the market like greggs does in the uk though

after all, it's all about making memories

Do dog owners block the sound of barking out? It's genuinely one of the most irritating sounds yet the cunts just let their fucking dogs bark.

>Some children are living in "Dickensian" levels of poverty, according to England's children's commissioner.
get them fed

>>212545777
i had a dog who would never bark, i only heard him do it a couple of times

>>212545727
When I was in school one of the paki girls would sing a song to me whenever I walked past but I ignored it like an incel would

Do you guys actually like black pudding or is it a joke?

Watching an Australian woman

When I was in school the incel kids who were obsessed with games used to call me gay or faggot and kicked me

Essex mentioned
>>212544879

>>212545777
neighbour's dog is basically untrained, frequently allowed to just run off down the street and chase cats
would hate the dog but it's completely the owner's fault stupid bitch

>>212545817
never had it

>>212545845
why are you calling the bitch stupid when you just said it's the owner's fault?

It's mental that your entire life experience as a male is dictated by your height. Sacked tranny for instance would probably be some Chad-lite pussy plougher if he had been 6'4

wasn't the son of the founder of greggs arrested for being a nonce or something?

>>212545847
You’ve never had a full English? I thought it was popular

so I says to Mabel I says

>>212545841
they were quite perceptive then

>>212545817
It's delicious. Chuck a bit in your bacon roll.

>>212545865
don't be clever with me sonny

>>212545845
One of mine has a chichua that hates everyone and goes fucking mental if it see anyone. I once had a slight disagreement with the owner and called it a 'horrible thing' and she got upset, 'YOU CAN'T CALL MY DOG HORRIBLE!'. Interestingly now if the dog is out, which is rare, and she sees me, she fucking grabs it so it doesn't go for me, and she's actually been quite friendly. She's a paramedic so the horrible thing is left on it's own all day, no wonder it's mental. Thanks for reading my blog.

Employed Woman did you ever get round to watching that anime film I recommended to you?

It's a good film.

>>212545432
why dont you post on youtube anymore? you should really focus on your youtube career and escape retail

>>212545880
I'm 6'5 and a virge cos of severe autism

When I was at uni a girl in my accomodation would openly laugh at every lad that was under 6ft

just supported the new zealand lamb industry

It's another episode of sacked tranny begging for any scrap of attention

Karl Pilkington would not approve

wondering when japan will accept mass immigration and diversity like here

>>212545817
I love it, it doesn't taste like blood, it's just a meaty taste. It's mostly women and soys who go 'urgh it's blood that's disgusting' when they've never tried it.
>>212545847
Rasheed

>>212545926
Subscribe to a Kiwi's Onlyfans?

>>212545926
good man

all dog owners are severely mentally ill narcissist
calling me brown is not an argument against this i am 100% correct

>>212545942
they basically already have, they're getting flooded with indogs and kurds apparently

>buy apples
>they're nice and firm
>bite in
>mushy
Take the piss

>>212545947
*dies of a heart attack at age 42*

any do-nothing-all-dayers

>>212545926
I don't particularly care about climate change however the absurdity of eating lamb meat that has been sent from NZ all the way over here isn't lost on me.

We have lamb here. Why do we need lamb meat flown / shipped here from the other side of the world?

>>212545926
Could you be anymore of a pick me kiwiboo?
F off

never read anne frank's diary
since she was a teenage girl, i wonder if there is any mention about how some of the nazi lads outside were totally the cutest

>>212545981
ktim

>>212545981
yh I was born short in a society that disdains short men so don't see why I should have to contribute

Supporting the NZ merino industry, natural fabrics only

>>212544269 (OP)
why arent women wearing thigh highs anymore?

>>212545972
I reckon the old warrior spirit will re-emerge, Japanese people won't be having any of that

>>212545975
You believe eating black pudding gives you a heart attack?

>>212546004
a clue gained

>>212546011
No idea but it's sex as fuck

>>212545973
what cultivar?

wearing jeans that are too small for me around the fore legs so they keep riding up and choking my big bollocks

>>212546012
they'll lie down and take it like everyone else mate

>>212545990
Good lad. We also recently made love export legal again so cows are getting sent across the ocean alive on boats with awful conditions for chinks to kill without any animal cruelty laws.

>>212545973
same goes for women

Hespect women

>>212544269 (OP)
Imagine she allowed you to kiss her pump.

>>212546011
they're not allowed to due to the woke

>>212546034
Braeburn, they were nice last week, no idea what's happened with this batch

I love New Zealand wine

>>212546061
Tranny freak

>>212546047
cor
lovely for us but unlucky for the cows I suppose

>>212545915
I actually forgot about it, sorry. I'll add it to my to watch list.

>>212545918
I don't really have the motivation for it. Now I'm into digital art

might start playing wow again

>>212546011
>>212546061
Why aren't women wearing skirts let alone thigh highs? It's just fucking ugly leggings now.

Crazy how nz products are more expensive here because we have to match export rates to convince farmers to sell locally. I hate globalism me

>>212546081
it's jellybeannose, a biological woman

For me, it's Teutonic wine

>>212546097
kek
love humanity, me

>>212546063
next time get pink ladies and support the australian apple industry if you please

>>212546045
dont wear boxers. let your balls split and move freely to either side

>>212546108
>jellybeannose
Haven't heard this in years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z96n9A9v7T4

love visual snow me, no cure haha

>>212546061
was fully expecting to see that skirt pulled up to reveal a shlong

jobcentre appointment looms

>>212546150
Blinding yourself gets rid of it

>>212546150
apparently if you look at static like how you used to get TV static then it cures it for a few seconds x

>>212546133
Bit too sweet and expensive for me sorry m8

Might do a video in the garden later actually depending on my mood

>>212546061
Don't tell me that's a man

>>212546181
granny smiths are a solid alternative if you prefer a more tart apple, also supporting the australian apple industry

Another 10 minutes until a new again is it?

>>212542343
>>212542343

>>212546138
Yeah I was thinking about her the other day and how she used to be posted here fairly often. How time flies.

I expect she's fat now, probably has a few kids by some hapless Korean fellow.

>>212546133
I do this I do

>>212546170
I don't think it would desu as it's a neurological thing, you'd probably see it in your fucking head
>>212546175
It doesn't I tried x

>>212546207
fuck OFF

New
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>>212546228
>>212546228

>>212546207
Ah I see what you've done there. You've linked to an old thread when I expected a new. How very droll

>>212545924
how could she tell?