Thread 212567200

>can't really pinpoint what is their culture in a same way as for Italy, Japan etc
>yet they are undeniably the cultural imperialists

What a strange place

>>212567200 (OP)
They just absorb culture from all around the world and then present it as their own

>>212567200 (OP)
>undeniably the cultural imperialists
Name a single example of cultural imperialism from the U.S
This is entirely in your head

>>212567200 (OP)
American culture is just Anglo-Saxon culture on steroids. Think England but on untamed land and the people are 10 times more outspoken.

>>212567200 (OP)
They have an overwhelming amount of organically emerged culture(s), the reason you can't pinpoint it as easily as you can with fake countries like Japan and Italy is because they never had a successful soyboy nationalist movement.

>>212567221
other way around

>>212567247
The language we're speaking right now.

>>212567221
Cope!
>>212567200 (OP)
What is Italian culture? Some foods? Being lazy? Is that really culture?

>>212567497
The English language is English not an American invention
Try again

Are we going to ignore the fact that blacks in America carry their culture? I don't think there's a single group more influential globally than the American blacks, culturally speaking

>>212567200 (OP)
One is artificial and one is genuine. When you hold up Japan or Italy they're fragile. More a lie than something which actually exists. America has a strength to her.

>>212567594
>to her.
Where is America's vagina? I'd love to fuck her

>>212567575
Per capita you're probably right. Well, except maybe Jamaicans as it pertains to popular culture.

>>212567611
Grand Canyon

>>212567517
1. Languages are not inventions, they are systems of communication that emerge organically through collective use and in your case reflect cultural history
2. English in not lingua franca because of UK but because of America

>>212567200 (OP)
It is interesting, yeah. American cinema plays a big role in their soft power and a lot of them are pretty popular "ethnic" stories (The Godfather, Lilo and Stitch, Joy Luck Club, etc) or something neutral like fantasy and sci-fi. Also these guys are international and huge so there's a lot more exposure to them. The only big studios I know in those countries are like what Toei/Toho from Japan? I don't even know what Italy has.
I believe this is why it's hard for you to pin it down.

>>212567221
Completely the opposite.
Nobody thinks that the US has a culture because you are all living it, proble is it just sucks ass.

>>212567687
even if we spread it, it's not ours. It's the property of Britishers
Try again

>>212567575
the jews obviously

>>212567221
It works both ways
In fact it works the same with every 2 cultures that meet
In a century or so kebab will be considered our national speciality, just like kiełbasa is despite its german origins, or pierogi which came from the east

Capitalism is the culture. That’s why we’re so effective in terms of cultural imperialism

>>212567746
A language is made of the people who speak it. America has for a long time now reigned culturally supreme in the anglo sphere.

>>212567746
How about you give me an example of cultural imperialism since you seem to be in denial.

>>212567824
There are no examples because we don't do it
We're too morally pure for that unlike old worlders

>>212567200 (OP)
>>212567221
There absolutely is such a thing as American culture, read this:
https://zompist.com/amercult.html

>>212567200 (OP)
american culture became almost the contemporary culture of the humankind, to the point that no one finds it exotic nor characteristic.
ex. skyscrapers, franchise business, plastic rifles,

American culture is basically burger and 80% of internet

>>212567200 (OP)
>Do nothing
>Forced into world wars via peer pressure from allies or pearl harbor
>I just wanted to feed the red army what am I doing here
>Everyone in the world folds up at the same time except you
>Management doesn't know what to do, injects random European philosophies via hiring immigrants as specialists
>Culture gets eaten alive by the socialism prion that already ruined Europe
>Rural people reject new culture over and over causing it to mutate again and again trying to simultaneously kill off and adapt to their authentic culture
>Finally get those damn fascist racist egalitarians to do what you want or demoralize into their own version of whiny cunt classcuck populists instead of acting like Americans
>Finally "caught up to" rest of world and finished rebuilding rest of world
>...rest of world mad at you for supposedly exporting "your" culture back to them and doing such evil empire things as suppressing global jihadism
Sasuga global community

>>212567200 (OP)
Used to be much easier I think. Jazz, rock n roll, cars like Cadillacs and Oldsmobiles, black and white movies with guys in suits and hats, comic books, baseball etc

>>212567575
This is specific to Europeans
You are obsessed with them because you are obsessed with our television and cannot stop watching
I first noticed this when I realized all of the European YouTubers who are too le cultured for Americans nonetheless knew who every new bixnood mumble rapper was and memorized their every gay slang
It was truly bizarre
Even other blacks are less in touch with what Lil Fenty is doing than random white Brits and Spaniards and French.

>>212567922
One could say I am American

videogames are american culture. invented and popularized here

>>212567960
The problem is you're still trying to describe the US culture as unique things opposed to Europe when the US was (and is) a cultural fusion of white immigrants by design

>>212568049
The first video game ever was technically from here, but a lot of the pioneers of the medium were also in Japan.

>>212567575
I think in the modern era I would say that African American culture is a lot more prominent. Rap/hip-hop has overtaken stuff like Metal and Punk, which I think started in the UK?

>>212568067
japanese videogame industry only emerged because they were popular in america

>>212568082
And yet Space Invaders, Pac-Man, Donkey Kong, Super Mario Bros... several of the most influential video games ever, all from Japan.

>>212568125
doesnt matter, it was invented here and first popular here. it's american culture

>>212568064
I'm describing popular culture that did not exist anywhere before the creation of the United States. If you mean folk traditions indigenous to USA it'd be things like blues for blacks and country & western for whites

>>212568129
It's joint Japanese-American culture. Saying it's only American culture is like saying rock 'n' roll is only American culture despite the huge influence of Beatles, Rolling Stones etc on the development of the genre.

>>212568165
it was american culture before it was japanese culture. feel free to quit coping anytime

>>212568150
>blues for blacks and country & western for whites
That's just the thing though- most of what is distinctively American in music, whether played historically by blacks or whites, is essentially European instruments and melodies set over African rhythms. American culture is mixed down to its roots and, at least to me, that's what makes it cool.

>>212568125
And yet the only game that matters, Sonic 3 (& Knuckles), was made by Sega America while using the exact same basic hardware and assets, Sega Japan was only capable of Sonic CD.

>>212568192
The distance between Pong and, say, Cyberpunk 2077 is about as big as the distance between Pong and analog ping-pong (if not bigger), and half the steps in the former path are Japanese. "Video games" are a broad heading.

>>212568250
the first videogame prototype, first arcade game, first home console, all american made and if it wasn't popular you wouldn't even be able to ascertain the japanese videogame industry would be nearly as large or even exist

>>212568250
Name a Japanese game engine in wide industry usage today beyond the specific software company which developed it.
Shouldn't be hard what with their spiral development model folded 1000 times, right?

Americans are the first (and hopefully last) hegemons to successfully fool the world into believing that mass coomsoomerism is somehow high culture.

Did they really think selling me movies with random shit exploding, as well a thin grilled meat sandwiched between two pieces of bread and a side of fried potatoes would make me feel less shitty about my life as a 180cm Asian who can't get a proper job fitting my ability because I didn't attend a fancy university?

>>212568201
Isn't Brazil and Caribbean the same way? Samba and reggae?

>>212568293
The Japanese game industry is admittedly not what it once was, and and to some extent it's always had differences because of different corporate business models. But for crying out loud, every sidescrolling platformer bears the DNA of Super Mario Bros, every SHMUP bears the DNA of Space Invaders.
>>212568310
Yes, very true. You can read "America" in my comment as in the continent, not only the US.

>>212568310
Also Cuban music, which when I'm thinking about it is probably the actually most influential people per capita, at least when it comes to music.

>>212568340
I'd have thought the most influential per capita is Irish music because of its influences on American folk music and through that to the world.

>>212568125
All of those are extremely derivative of American culture

>>212568369
What American games are they extremely derivative of?

>>212568309
??? Action movies and fast food are low culture

>>212568323
ok and every game has the dna of moving objects coming from pong

>>212568379
I didn't say games, I said culture. Space Invaders is based on American sci-fi, Pac-Man was largely based on Pop-Eye, Donkey Kong is literally just King Kong, Mario is based on a stereotypical Italian plumber, an American trope.

>>212568365
I don't know, the Irish population would have been larger than the Cuban population during the early 20th century, which is when Cuban music reached peak influence.

>>212568309
>would make me feel less shitty about my life as a 180cm Asian who can't get a proper job fitting my ability because I didn't attend a fancy university?
Have you considered that constantly complaining and crying online is not going to benefit your life and that the world doesn't revolve around you?

>>212568432
Which is a pretty small bit of DNA.
>>212568442
>Space Invaders is based on American sci-fi
What, like America is the only country to have sci-fi? Plus, even if the non-ludic ideas are American, the question here is how they're translated into game form, and that's Japanese.
>Pac-Man was largely based on Pop-Eye
How do you figure?

>>212568477
>Arcade video games caught on quickly in Japan due to partnerships between American and Japanese corporations that kept the Japan companies abreast of technology developments within the United States. The Nakamura Amusement Machine Manufacturing Company (Namco) partnered with Atari to import Pong into Japan in late 1973. Within the year, Taito and Sega released Pong clones in Japan by mid-1973. Japanese companies began developing novel games and exporting or licensing them through partners in 1974.[11] Among these included Taito's Gun Fight (originally Western Gun in its Japanese release), which was licensed to Midway. Midway's version, released in 1975, was the first arcade video game to use a microprocessor rather than discrete TTL components.[12] This innovation drastically reduced the complexity and time to design of arcade games and the number of physical components required to achieve more advanced gameplay.[13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_games

>>212568442
I noticed this too, all the old arcade games are based on the Japanese's limited understanding of American pop culture

>>212568491
Hey, I never said there wasn't a large American contribution. I'm just saying, there's a large Japanese contribution too in terms of gameplay mechanics and tropes.

>>212568493
>Mike Sernandez
They were too ahead of their time

>>212567200 (OP)
what defines Italian and Japanese culture now isn't what defined Japanese culture 100 years ago, you pretentious tard.
there is a lot this country takes from the English. but we don't need to explain ourselves further than that.
everyone know who Rambo is, everyone knows Jean Van-Claude Damme, and everyone knows about New York despite it not being very important to the world.

>>212568461
I'm saying your legal opiates are not working
Do better, like making AMWF porn

>>212568323
>Well sure, the US invented video games and sure Japan sucks now but remember the arcade days and Mario Kart!
Kek

>>212568514
i literally just proved that the japanese gaming industry only existed because of direction cooperation stemming from american companies pertaining to pong because pong was successful and popular in the us. it's american culture regardless of japanese contribution

>>212568563
I'm saying that video games originated in the US but Japanese developers played a significant role in making the medium what it is now.
>>212568571
By that logic all American music is actually either British or African because it's descended from British and African forms.

>>212567200 (OP)
>>can't really pinpoint what is their culture in a same way as for Italy, Japan etc
you say this, and i know you can recognize "american" isn't really an ethnicity or even a real identity for lack of having an actual culture, and yet you thirdies blow a gasket when the diaspora goes "yeah I'm 56% german"

>>212568578
no, by your logic you're saying brits nor africans have music culture because other cultures have music that was developed

>>212568648
What? Again, I'm not saying that video games didn't originate in America, I'm just saying that Japanese developers have contributed a lot to the medium and it would probably look pretty different without them.

>>212568477
UFO culture is very obviously American and came from a panic in the 1940s and 50s lol
Even today there are still boomers in Japan that are obsessed with UFOs because of it

>>212568676
i said videogames are american culture and then you kept waffling about japan videogames that literally only existed because of american videogame culture. it literally doesn't matter what contributions japanese made in respect to the topic of whether or not americans started videogame culture

>>212568477
>What, like America is the only country to have sci-fi?
95% of what we know of as sci-fi today was either invented directly by an American or was created by someone working secondhand from an American source.

>>212568714
And my point is that the fact that video games originated America doesn't make the elements originated by Japanese developers any less Japanese. Is literature inherently Sumerian culture because they were the first to invent writing?
>>212568734
Mary Shelley and H. G. Wells were English. Jules Verne was French.

>>212567200 (OP)
this is American culture, this is what everyone here seems to think is the supreme way of life.

>>212567200 (OP)
It's a mutation of 1700's british culture left to its own devices

>>212567254
Terrible description of the US

>>212567200 (OP)
american culture is jewish culture
remember this

>>212567746
Nigga you're stupid.

>>212570488
Cope I'm right

>>212569600
>Mary Shelley and H. G. Wells were English. Jules Verne was French.
That's the 5%.

>>212567788
Underrated post and a /thread angle

>>212567200 (OP)
their culture is marvel movies and mcdonaldburgers
everyone on earth has at least heard of those

>>212567511
The pole is right though, have you ever been to England?

>>212567707
> I don't even know what Italy has.
Have you ever heard about Cinecittà?

>>212567200 (OP)
Because our culture is a mix of a bunch of other cultures, process in high fructose corn syrup, and then spat back out.
See a goyslop dish in some country? Maybe it was local, or maybe it was a re-imported version from the US. The world may never know.

American culture is
>North-Atlantic
>Calvinist
>Individualist
>African influence
Finland on the other hand certainly has no culture

>>212570554
H.G Wells pretty much created sci-fi as a genre

Our culture is Judeo-Anglo, and it is based.

>>212567200 (OP)
Their “culture” is obesity, school shootings and worshiping niggers

>>212567200 (OP)
obsessed retard

>>212567200 (OP)
They used to have a culture similar to Britain and Ireland but they don't even have that anymore

>>212571461
obese retard

>>212567276
>Japan and Italy is because they never had a successful soyboy nationalist movement
tf you talking about

>>212567247
black music

America is the only western country with a culture anymore.
Europe has thrown away whatever distinct original cultures they had and now just all copy America.