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Anonymous United States No.212582683 [Report] >>212583008 >>212584178 >>212584361 >>212585092 >>212586076
>still filters ESLs 500 years later
EFLs, please remember that the reason ESLs sound so retarded is because they’re too low IQ to understand our spelling. Please be patient with ESLs it’s not their fault that they were born stupid and poor
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vowel_Shift
Anonymous Brazil No.212583008 [Report] >>212583199
>>212582683 (OP)
Provide me a vocaroo pronouncing beat as with a open-mid front unrounded vowel

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Open-mid_front_unrounded_vowel.ogg
Anonymous United States No.212583199 [Report] >>212584072
>>212583008
i’m not “providing” you with shit monkey
Anonymous Brazil No.212584072 [Report]
>>212583199
What the heck

This guy is a freaking racist
Anonymous United Kingdom No.212584178 [Report] >>212584457
>>212582683 (OP)
I pronounce 'beet' and 'beat' the same
Anonymous Poland No.212584234 [Report]
boat should be written like bote
Anonymous Japan No.212584361 [Report] >>212584900 >>212586446
>>212582683 (OP)
My primary discontent with the English spellings is the frequent misuses of "y",
(1) which has originally been defined as a vowel found in Greek loanwords in Latin language, but has been used for several representations of sounds inclusive of a consonant in English language,
(2) and often omits the etymological atmosphere of the words.

For those two reasons, I hope some scholars alter the spellings involving "y" broadly in following ways, of course without affecting how they are pronounced.

1. y at Ends of Words

> words of French-Latin origin
> y -> ie

> words of Anglo and other Germanic origin
> y -> ig, (i)j (based on historical transitions)

ex.
discoverie, communitie, crie(cry), deploie
hardlig(hardly), luckig(lucky), flig(fly), saig(say)
bij(by), mij(my), thej(they), spraj(spray)

2. y at Beginnings of Words

> words of Anglo and other Germanic origin
> y -> ge, j (based on historical transitions)

ex.
geard(yard), gesterdaig(yesterday), gellow(yellow)
jouth(youth), jear(year), New Jork(New York)

3. y in Middle of Words

> words of Greek origin
> y -> y (as is, since it's the only case of "y"'s appropriate succession.)

ex. hydrogen, system, psychologie(psychology), analyze

That's the summarie of mij thoughts.
Wishing jou a nice daig!
Anonymous United States No.212584457 [Report]
>>212584178
Pretty sure almost everyone does, but they didn't used to be pronounced the same. It's the meet-meat merger.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonological_history_of_English_close_front_vowels#Meet%E2%80%93meat_merger
Anonymous Brazil No.212584900 [Report] >>212585077
>>212584361
Theig.
Anonymous Japan No.212585077 [Report]
>>212584900
"they" didn't experience the process to transition from "theig" or "theix", therefore it's J case : "thej".
Anonymous Netherlands No.212585092 [Report] >>212585638
>>212582683 (OP)
>hurr other people are dumb
Nigger you can't even differentiate between their and they're. You are legit the dumbest people on earth outside of Africa.
Anonymous United States No.212585638 [Report]
>>212585092
Native speakers of all languages confuse homophones. French people confuse the infinitive and participle (e.g. mangé and manger). Spanish speakers confuse hecho and echo. Japanese people will confuse the kanji for words that sound the same but mean completely different things.
That's just what happens when you learn a language by ear and only later learn to read, as native speakers do, and a minority of non-native learners.
Anonymous Sweden No.212586076 [Report]
>>212582683 (OP)
not sure what the picture is trying to illustrate ('bite' never had those other vowels; it was always an /i/-vowel, and 'bout' went from /u/ originally, not /ɔ/), but no one struggles with those diphthongs if that's what you're getting at
Anonymous Sweden No.212586446 [Report] >>212586477
>>212584361
>and often omits the etymological atmosphere of the words.
nigga, it's very etymological
an ⟨y⟩ as a grapheme used to express a glide /j/ has is as old as the introduction of the Latin alphabet to Germanic peoples
Anonymous Sweden No.212586477 [Report]
>>212586446
>me in charge of proofreading