Thread 212642035

What's wrong with Poles?

>>212642035 (OP)
Czech and Croatian look just fine, though

>>212642035 (OP)
I'm pretty sure we could understand Czech and Slovak much better just for the sole reason of a fucking normal non-diacritic spelling.

>>212642035 (OP)
Cyrillic is an alphabet of poverty, backwardness and eastern Europe, we don't want to have anything to do with it even if we need to create 100 additional letters and quadgraphs

>>212642059
it's all the matter of convention
we are used to what we have so it feels normal to us
Hungarians also use "cz", "sz" etc. and no one criticizes them for that

>>212642035 (OP)
>>212642251
Theres no reason to create letters
English has the same problem with vowels and too few letters but they just go with it. At the end of the day who cares

>>212642035 (OP)
you're just too low iq for latin and coping

>>212642323
tell it to french and Italian (the master latin language) you complete retard

>>212642323
>Theres no reason to create letters
t. Å

>>212642329
>Polish intellectuals
Serbian uses Cyrillic and Latin interchangeably

>>212642368
croatians serbs (high iq use latin)
turkish serbs (low iq) YOU use Cyrillic

>>212642368
you only pretend to use Cyrillic and force that in the public sphere, while 80% of daily business in Serbia is in Latin and on the internet it's like 95%

which only proves how useless Cyrillic is, if two alphabets are to compete with each other freely, no one gives a fuck about this corrupted Greek script

>>212642354
We have three extra vowel letters sure. We would have survived fine without them just like English did

>>212642435
survived - yes
but whoever would want to learn your language would struggle with pronunciation same like everyone does with English where "c" can be pronounced as 3 different sounds

>>212642460
>whoever would want to learn your language
No one. kek

>>212642323
That's the reason English pronunciation is nightmare that even natives can't comprehend.

>>212642482
a lot of Poles learn Swedish in hope of getting a well-paid job in a call centre oriented at Scandinavian markets
tons of jobs like that in Kraków, myself I know a person who speaks Swedish/Norwegian/Danish fluently and works in a place like this

>>212642035 (OP)
Latin is for Slavs (Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, Croats, Slovenes), cyrillic is for turco-mongol rape babies (Serbs, Bosnians, Bulgars, Ukrainians, Russians)

>>212642549
lol that never happened

>>212642594
https://pl.jooble.org/praca-szwedzki

>>212642549
>a lot of Poles learn Swedish in hope of getting a well-paid job in a call centre oriented at Scandinavian markets
Useless language, useless jobs. Not for Poolacks, ofc.

>>212642035 (OP)
This has been discussed to death, Cyrillic isn't good for Polish at all and would require several extra letters just like Latin does with diacritics.
And practical reasons aside, we used the Latin script for a millenium so what the fuck do you think, that we're gonna dump our entire history into the trash? Roman Latin culture is one of our defining features, just like Byzantine is yours. It's unchangeable.
Plus the general tendency is that Cyrillic countries switch to Latin, not the other way around.

>>212642612
ukrainian has 20 time more job offers but nobody is learning that shit

you're just pulling shit out of your ass

>>212642628
czas wracać do siebie, pidorku

>>212642549
>Poles beg to be Swedish cum buckets
grim

>>212642035 (OP)
I LOVE DIACRITICS
I WANT MORE DIACRITICS
DIACRITICLETS CAN SUCK MY BIG CONFUSING DIACRITIC ĎÏĆĶ

>>212642671
go back vanya to okraine

>>212642673
we get swedish tourist you get russian HIV and gypsies

>>212642035 (OP)
this pic implies we used cyrillic and switched to latin at some point in history which is completely wrong
we used latin since the earliest foundation of our country back in the 10th century

>>212642668
>ukrainian has 20 time more job offers
dude, these are not real jobs that require Ukrainian, this just what employers do when they want to employ a Ukrainian person instead of a Polish person (Ukrainians don't know their rights, won't complain about working conditions and will just agree for a lower pay) but they cannot just write "I only hire Ukrainians" because it would be discriminatory and they could be punished, so they just write "obligatory requirement: C2 knowledge of Ukrainian" even if it's a job like a supermarket cashier or assembly line worker where you don't need any foreign language.

>>212642150
Czechs have plenty of diacritics, they just have less sounds (compare Czech č to Polish ć and cz). And they have some we don't even pronounce anymore (Czech ř vs Polish rz).

>>212642323
>English has the same problem with vowels and too few letters but they just go with it.
yeah and it sucks
I blame normans for this

i met more swedish speaking polish and poles speaking swedish at polish-swedish companies

swedish is not an attractive language for anybody

>>212642673
these jobs pay really well, it's just regular call centre shit you don't need any special education/skills for but you get like 2-2.5k eur net just if you know Scandi languages and answer stupid questions from some boomer from Bergen
i considered starting learning them too but then i found another good job

>>212642059
Czechs developed a decent latin alphabet which Ljudevit Gaj adopted for South Slavs. Polish would look more normal if it used our alphabet.

>>212643206
nigga ur a discounted serb with 0 language history

>>212643276
>adopts serbo-bosnian sthokavian instead of kajkavian or old chakavian as the standard so the illiterate masses of the Ottoman empire don't have to learn a new language
Rude, we were merciful to the oriental masses.

>>212642035 (OP)
Polish would lose its soul if it used cyrilic.

>>212643597
if we used Cyrillic czech would never exist

>>212643206
>Polish would look more normal
we wouldn't give 500 years of our literary history with rich rennaissance or baroque literature just for "looking better"
obviously nations that were basically created in 19th century mostly from illiterate peasants, with close-to-zero literature before, could make up whatever alphabet they wanted, but for us, with continuous literary traditions from the middle ages, it would be ridiculous, we couldn't read our 16th century books

>>212643662
I understand that, just saying if Polish hypothetically used a modified version of the Latin alphabet it would look better (more like other Latin scrips) and it's not about not using Cyrillic.

>>212643901
people who think that are just low IQ and don't know any polish

>>212643901
just admit it, BYKOBAP looks better than VUKOVAR

>>212643662
>we couldn't read our 16th century books
You could just, you know, just print them in the newer script.

>>212644168
is romanian really such a useless language that words have no meaning and you can just spell them however you want?

>>212643206
>Polish would look more normal
It looks normal to us, and that is all that matters
It's heckin trad & quirky

>>212643978
it doesn't, V is a far more elegant letter than the obese beta B

>>212643978
>VUKOVAR
based EVROPA ROMAN TRAD

>BYKOBAP
looks like an abortion mistake

>>212643978
Only looks good in your cuck mind

>>212644343
>It looks normal to us
But the Croatbro said it could look MORE normal. Let's at least replace W with V.

>>212644827
and then Ł into W

>>212644827
Nie.

>>212642035 (OP)
Was thinking the same the other day in the liqor store, the L with a dash is wierd. How do i pronounce Łódź?

>>212645083
wut͡ɕ

>>212644956
>Ł into W
Fuck no. Ł is the most Polish-looking letter. Unique on its own.

>>212645198
Tbh Ł used to be deep L, not W.

>>212645083
Woodj
>>212644827
It looks the most normal to me.
No, fuck off.

>>212645304
We don't look civilized with digraphs.

Are there any Poles who think their spelling is a bit less legible and should be fixed? Memes aside I wonder if words like szczęsny or wstrzemięźliwość really get used to or if PFLs get tired of reading them too

>>212645304
>Łódź becomes Woodj
why use Ł and ź how are they different from W and j?

>>212645417
are italians and french are also not civilized because they have digraphs?

>>212645544
>Woodj
becayse that looks retarded and Polish is pornauced as read same like italian and not retarded english

>>212645468
Poland people can read those words same as japanese can read kanji you're korean so will not understand it

>>212642035 (OP)
we're catholic and we use the same alphabet as the church
>>212645544
because those are 600 years old

>>212645593
>Polish is pornauced as read same like italian and not retarded english
elaborate, norwegian for instance is a very phonetic language compared to english, we have W, Z adn Q but almost never use them

>>212645674
so the W and j is the wierd letters to you?

>>212645724
words are written down as they are said 1 to 1 just like Latin

>>212645762
So polish, italian and norwegian is phonetic while english is retarded. Polish spellisng makes sense as long as you know the letters.
In regards to the first point, I was working with a pole and we were talking english but I could not remember the english word for something and he told me to use the norwegian word and it was the same as in polish. It was commercials, reklame.

>>212645916
proto polish and proto swedish are closer than southern and nothern italian

>>212645752
polish is fully phonetic, j sound like it does in swedish and w is v like in german, v and x are unused, loanwords are transliterated but more and more often we just use english words, in particular we use "weekend" which is very deeply rooted

>>212645916
>norwegian is phonetic
but you have a bazillion different dialects that have their own quirky pronunciation

>>212645916
polish is very pure but often there are loanwords that function alongside native counterpart
german loanwords are common, advertisement probably comes from latin and reklame is german or something

>>212646039
>polish is very pure
Polish is horribly infested with loanwords. We even use loanwords in particles. No other language does that. It's so disgusting:

>z racji
>w stylu
>w kwestii
>w sumie
>w sensie
>zresztą
>przy/z okazji
>na punkcie
>w ramach
>wreszcie/nareszcie
>w gruncie rzeczy

>>212646132
...comparatively

>>212646132
you're just retarded

>>212646000
>weekend
oof, like the danes
English is whay to common here among the younger generations, where we just use english words in the middle of sentences
>>212646034
yes but we change the spelling (white = hvit, kvit) (water = vann, vatn)
close by where I live the is 3 islands which is 3 different municipalitys and there is different personal pronoun in each. that are; æ, e & i.

>>212646228
english in polish is ok

slavs are eastern germanics, it's a trick to divide the aryan race

>>212646308
niggha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PaYjnxNhrU

>>212646352
Kanye is such a Gemini

>>212646293
>>212644989

>>212645916
>reklame
That's the exact same word used here. Probably borrowed from German or French.

>>212642035 (OP)
Too good looking. All Eastern European cultures are fucked, bc when your women are all that hot, your men can’t think of anything else but getting up inside them, and your culture doesn’t have to advance with fucking Roman Empire fantasies, bc everyone is pretty fucking content squeezing meat and cream into dat ass every day.

>>212645916
Norwegian is not phonetic, sometimes you don't pronounce g, sometimes you pronounce it as j (short i), sometimes d and t are not pronounced, there is silent and non silent h..