is this true

>>212677557 (OP)
Yes I asked Grok

>>212677557 (OP)
Without the West buying their shit China starves to death

Mankind is an Iron Age species with a thin veneer of whites elevating us to modernity.

>>212677633
what does china get in return, except for the paper

>>212677633
>Without the West buying their shit China starves to death
Other way around. Without China's shit, the West starves to death.

Chyna has singlehandedly disproved white supremacy

>>212677687
we could literally just start making our own stuff again we only pawn the manufacturing process off to inferior races because it’s cheaper

>>212677754
let's see you try

>>212677754
Supply follows demand. Since the West is scared shitless of China, it would've stopped buying Chinese shit ages ago if it could.

But it can't.

>>212677557 (OP)
Their birthrate is just as fucked as ours so no. Any country with decent living standards is at the bottom already.

>>212677687
Vacation time, Zhang?

>>212677827
>Their birthrate is just as fucked as ours
But without the race replacement. So not nearly as fucked, no.

>>212677827
but they used to have one child policy
now the it looks like the Chinese government is doing real work which can really change the situation

>>212677557 (OP)
Not yet. Chinks are still moving way more to the west than westerners are moving to China. Even Serbia is getting Chinese immigrants while Serbs will much rather move to the EU than China.

>>212677849
Back in the oven, mosche?

>>212677875
I want to move to China

>>212677557 (OP)
woah, that is so true
but i love the west

>>212677823
no one is scared of the chinese
id like to see them try and maintain 21st century without us handholding every step of the process

>>212677557 (OP)
Yes. I have a hard time everytime I see a weak mean.

>>212677938
can you explain what china receives from trading with west

>>212677938
if that wasn't true then why didn't Britain go to war over Hong Kong. it's because they would have lost. times changed tim.

So we’re about to be strong and they’re about to be weak?

>>212677557 (OP)
no, everyone is in the 4th panel
>>212677687
>>212677823
>what is the world before 2010

>>212677969
after our countries burn down

>>212677873
Delusional if you think policy fixes this. You're also betraying the concept of your own starter question if you think that's how it works.
>>212677858
Nigger look at my flag.
>>212677880
Dude I'm not talking shit I had a good time hanging out with Chinese tourists in SEA but let's be honest here.

>>212677557 (OP)
No, it's just platitudes for morons unable to understand that the world is complex and can't be simplified in such a way.

>>212677990
my point is that PiS etc. does really weak attempts
where as China does stuff like protecting its people from degenerate culture

>>212677938
If the West could cut trade with China by now, it would. Checkmate.

>>212677990
I've enjoyed at least several jew movies but let's be honest here.

>>212678040
Lets be real. Neither China nor the west want to cut trade entirely. It's in neither of our interests really.

>>212677654
China has no internal market, so all their exchange has no value backing. Because they're ideologically deranged and unable to leave peoples' saving alone, they evaporate all wealth in their country. Only way they can build value is to peg it on the West, so it goes
>we can sell x for y to USA
>so please believe our funny money is worth the y, because we can convert to dollars, okay?
They were on their way out of that muck thanks to Dengian reform, but then Shi Jinping happened. A dirty fucking Stalinist.

sorry, i did not understand

>>212677557 (OP)
China and the west are both bad in their own way. That’s why I’m pro-Japan

>>212678091
But only China is seriously preparing for the contingency in which it does get cut off (since it knows how unreliable the West has become). The West is flailing.

>>212678040
literally doesn’t even make sense you ape

>>212678155
Are they? Like CAN they? If they lost the US markets, AND the European markets the majority of their manufacturing industry would have nowhere to sell their shit. Jobs would be lost en mass, and the government would need to step in big time, and in ways it probably never wants to have to.

what is the benefit that China gets from sending stuff to the rest of the world

>>212678209
>Are they? Like CAN they?
Yes and yes.

>>212677693
Nope, that would be Japan. During the Meiji Restoration Japan had the fastest industrial revolution in history (only 40 years to transition from a feudal society to modern, industrial superpower). Japan would go on to be the first Asian country to beat a European superpower (Russo-Japanese War) and would single handedly liberate Asia from western colonialism during the Greater East Asia War. Japan proved non-western countries could reach the level of western superpowers

>>212677557 (OP)
China is too oppressive for "good times", the West exploded in power during great times of liberation that were still dominated by a conservative culture, think of the period from the Renaissance to the early 20th century, you need a kind of hypocritical society, where sex is taboo but you can still publish Marquis de Sade, and drug use is taboo but they still sell cocaine in every pharmacy, this is what built the West, since the inception of liberal democracies and over-regulated and actually oppressive paternalist states our prowess and momentum dwindled down, expectedly.

>>212678234
Care to explain then? Because most of their economy is based off of exports. More so than really most other countries. Losing the two largest consumer markets would be a mighty blow.

>>212678194
Maybe you're retarded.

>>212678259
>China is too oppressive for "good times"
This is Western cope.

>>212678269
>Because most of their economy is based off of exports.
The majority of Chinese goods are bought by the Chinese themselves.

>>212678288
Last I checked consumer demand only accounts for around 30 odd percent of their GDP. Far lower than any other country. And the lack of markets to sell due to spats with the US has caused domestic deflation.

>>212678269
>their economy is based on exports
what do they get in return

>>212678288
>This is Western cope.
How the fuck is China not oppressive? It's literally an open air prison where every citizen is subjected to the panopticon/society of control psychological state where they self-regulate because they think they are being constantly observed, which fucks up with any creative and spontaneous spirit which translates in all areas of life.

>>212678346
Money, and booming industry.

>>212678365
i think you described spain

>>212677557 (OP)
No hard times are creating strong men in china

>>212678390
do they use this money to import anything

>>212678365
It's really not that bad. You can criticize the government even so long as you don't do so publicly. It's not western levels, but there are aspects of freedom you could say are higher in China than in many parts of the west. But that's just the multifaceted nature of different societies/cultures and such.

>>212678425
I'd imagine so, but surely far less than they export money wise.

the world is strange

>>212678319
>Last I checked consumer demand only accounts for around 30 odd percent of their GDP
Then you should probably check again.

>>212678365
>How the fuck is China not oppressive?
By not being oppressive?

>>212678503
>Then you should probably check again
lol got any sources for this? Because I don't think I have your seemingly insider knowledge friendo. Best I got is western reports, and corroboration from the friends I have there.

>>212678536
Western reports based on metrics released by Beijing I should specify.

>>212678536
>lol got any sources for this?
What was your source?

>>212678603
News reports mainly from business sites here. I don't save the flipping links or anything.
But that you're getting defensive makes me think you don't have any. Especially since as I said the ones I viewed were supposedly taken from stats released by the government of China itself. But please feel free to prove me wrong. I'd love to be proven wrong in fact. But when I hear shit like 'deflation is increasing' and then when I ask my friends there they say it is I have a hard time believing some loser on 4chan ya know?

>>212677754
>we could literally just start making our own stuff

China got
>600 million people still living off farming, with barely any monetary income
>the rest working insane hours for a roughly Mexican standard of living
>the most fucked up demographics in the world - with 100s of millions pre-retirement, without having a proper pension system in place

All of this is is according to their very own data, not Fox News or something, so don’t even try to debate this, you’re debating the CCP.

Any of these issues alone would’ve made it a pretty fucked up country, together it’s just a maelstrom of misery.

They got the best PR in the world showing of their A-tier cities, but that’s it.

>>212678748
Their very own data = RFA

Cope some moar as China mogs muslim shitholes like germany and cartel disneyland mexico

>>212678872
Request for Application

>>212677557 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGsVxbs2ZQs&pp=ygUWYnVyaWFsZ29vZHMgc3Ryb25nIG1lbtIHCQnYCQGHKiGM7w%3D%3D

>>212678235
except it didn't because they lost the war anyway along with all their colonial possessions and their economy crashed and burned. and they are under continuous military occupation to this day.
to be honest with you China is a much better example, or at least it will be in like 10-20 years if things continue as they are

>>212677557 (OP)
The west isn’t experiencing hard times yet, and most of China isn’t experiencing good times either, you can tell this was made by an incel.

>>212678657
>I don't save the flipping links or anything.
Uh huh.

>>212678748
for being a maelstrom of misery they are seemingly not bothered by it
Korea is by comparison much more depressed and miserable despite having a higher income and standard of living than China
NEWS FLASH: Being rich and having a higher quality of living doesn't make you less miserable, it makes you more miserable. That's why "developing nations" always have lower suicide rates than industrialized nations

>>212679019
South Korea has the exact same issues as China, overaged and overworked society. Life in a Chinese A-tier city and Seoul seem very very similar.

>>212679019
>developing nations have lower suicide rates than industrialized nations
maybe it is because in developing nations people look forward to the bright future. people feel they are working for something good
where as in industrialized nations there is nihilism, hedonism, degeneracy and the void awaiting them

>>212679097
Yes, but there are hordes of poors in order to balance out the sentiment at the national level.

>>212679151
That's the reason. There are only two kinds of countries. Developing countries and developed countries. In a developing country there is a better future to look forward to and build towards, in a developed country the only possibility is that life gets worse.

>>212679226
is it entirely true though? Progress can be infinitive... perhaps the notion of developed country is false