Thread 212679792

Why do koreans and japanese deny the fact that japanese and korean are objectively related languages? You literally can translate japanese sentence word by word to korean and nothing will change. Same thing cannot be said about many obviously related european languages like english and german

>>212679792 (OP)
we reformed Korean language like that during the annexation

>>212679865
They had this word order since ancient times, you didn't reform the word order or significantly changed the language

>>212679792 (OP)
Because Japanese are descendants from Korea.

>>212679792 (OP)
Do Japanese people and Koreans ever get confused speaking in such an ass-backwards way?

>>212679792 (OP)
Is this Hungarian?

>>212680356
you are the one speaking backwards

>>212680241
Korean peninsula at that time was inhabited by the Japanese in the first place.

>>212680356
No

>>212680419
lol, it must hurt so bad to be a nationalist nowadays.

>>212680356
Did you know your ancestors, Old English language speakers, spoke also in that word order?

>>212680419
You mean yayoi not japanese. Modern japanese is a fusion of jomon tribes and invaders from korea

>>212680478
I'm afraid I don't know much about this topic. My ancestors were latinised brythonic celts who graduated from speaking Common Brittonic to Latin to Norman French to Middle English.

>>212680515
임나일본부 얘기하는거임

>>212679792 (OP)
When I hear Korean is sounds oddly Familiar but I can’t understand shit

>>212680567
반도 일본어설 얘기하는거지 뭔 임나일본부설이야 씨발련아 조센징 답글달지 마라

japanese, korean, manchu, mongolian, and turkic languages all share the same grammatical features, must be something in the water

>>212680653


>>212680419
>>212680241

>>212680664
Don't forget Uralic.

>>212680687
임나일본부가 4세기 얘기인데 이 무식한 조센징 어쩔까.. 조센징들은 무식한데 아는 척은 하고 싶어서 몸이 달궈진다는데 외국 포럼에서도 나대는구나

>>212680753
왜 화내는거야... 의견교류 안하는 한남행동은 너가 하고있잖아..

>>212680864
조센징들은 항상 지 뇌피셜이 맞다는 전제 하에서 우직하게 고집부리는 그 노비 근성이 충만하더라 조센징 사회 생활하다보면 조센징들이 얼마나 추악하고 멍청한 나르시스트들인걸 알게 됨. 이 민족이 짱깨답게 토론같은 거 못하는 이유이기도하고 대학원에서도 제대로 된 연구가 없음. 지 좆대로 믿고 씨부리거든 ㅋㅋ

>>212680956
그런 환경에서 지금까지 살아왔다면 미안, 그래도 정보 알려줘서 고마워.

>>212681023
걍 가만히있고 4chan에서 한국인에게 답글달지말아라 느그들 좆같아서 해외포럼 왔는데 또 지랄들이네 디시로 꺼지든지 해라 제발 요새 센징들 /int/에 바글거리는 거 보기도 싫다. 어떤 센징들이 4chan글 디씨로 퍼가는 거냐?

>>212679792 (OP)
Ask the retarded academician faggots who decided it would be funny making up the "Koreanic" and "Japonic" language families that both respectively only consist of Korean and Japanese.
>>212680356
See>>212680402

>>212681080
>>212680956
ㄹㅇ ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 어디서 갑자기 조선인들이 대거 유입된거냐 그래서 요즘 /김치/ 안감 좆같애서ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

>>212681157
ㄹㅇ 디씨에 글 존나뿌림 어떤 개새끼가
어디가야하냐 좆같은데

>>212681157
똥포스트밖에 없는데 스레드 세우는거 자체가 웃음벨임

>>212680241
come back when you grow up

>>212681080
>>212681157
Go back to /escapekorea/, retards

>>212681493
그게 뭔데 센징아
하여튼 센징이들은 고백홈 이런 거 밖에 모르냐? 고백홈 양키이런거냐 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

>>212681556
니가 좋아하는 탈조선갤 있잖아 좆찐따새끼야ㅋㅋ

>>212681599
탈조선갤이 뭔데 조센징아?

>>212680133
Word order doesnt prove that theyre related. Practically half of the worlds languages (including many indo European languages) have SOV word order
Youre drawing conclusions from very superficial similarities

>>212681089
This is incorrect
These are inseed language families,
Koreanic has Jejuo which is considered a distinct language
and Japonic also has Ryukyuan languages which are also distinct

>>212680540
It's more clear because most often miss first few words when someone starts talking to you
Here the important part is at the end so there's no problem

>>212679792 (OP)
The literacy rate in Korea was only a few percent, but thanks to education during the Japanese colonial period, it rose to a level that could be called civilized, so it's only natural that there are similarities. Koreans probably want to hide their past and are negative about it.

>>212682286
Bro, they are also use topic markers like wa/ga and eun/ga in the same way. No one else does this

Same word order doesn't mean they're related. English and Chinese have the same word order. Korean and Japan share no cognates

>>212685489
>no cognates
Ga in japanese and ga in korean

>>212680571
Are you japanese?

>>212679792 (OP)
https://youtu.be/ReoJrG0V1So?si=fflLi8jRwLqebKfZ
it cannot be denied

>>212686224
nonsense. most of the words in the clip are Chinese-formatted ones both Japanese and Korean have happened to adopt.

>>212686776
then, related by transitivity

>>212686776
Why do you ignore that korean and japanese are the only languages in the entire world that have topic markers?

>>212685353
Would you say that English and Celtic are related at some level lower than (west)-IE because they are alike in do-support? Syntactic and morphological structure often get passed around between neighbors, and avoidance of overt subjects is as east-asian as being a slit-eye (classical chinese uses topic-comments profusely)

>>212686885
Beginning to wonder whether this is just a stackoverflow-type bait-by-retardation thread

>>212680571
I think half of Korean vocabulary is just English words pronounced wrong.

>>212687716
Classical chinese doesn't have equivalents to markers of japanese and korean. They are wholly different things, chinese doesn't have analog of word ga and chinese zhe is also different from japanese and korean yopic markers