>“Italians aren't white” thread
>Brazilian and argentinian flags rushes in to defend them because they're the white population there

>northern Italians in South America
>southern Italians in North America

It's funny how the average "white" person in Latin America looks a racist depiction of Italian immigrants from early 20th century America. Their perception of whiteness is very strange.
>I have European heritage senhor, I'm white!
>wh-what do you mean what part of Europe? Why does that matter??

>>212683992 (OP)
>>212684118
>>212684126

Italians aren't white
The only white population in Brazil is German
t. Italo-Brazilian

/thread

>>212684195
What about the Confederates?

Chuds will extol the future of the Roman empire and ancient Greece and in the same breath call Italians and Greeks subhuman filth

>>212684195
Impossible to convince me that these people live with and interact with the mass of brownoids/mutts Brazil has. They must live in their own segregated communities.

>>212683992 (OP)
>>“Italians aren't white” thread
These are mostly done by brown people trying to claim italians
I borrow italian history to white people because i like them more
I ant brown people to fail and be humilliated.

>>212684227
Roman emperors were Nordic or something

>>212684412
yes, and the Pharoahs

>>212683992 (OP)
Ok indio

>>212684232
They are worshipped as literal Gods by the average Brapzilian. Blue eyes and "smooth" hair (as opposed to nappy hair) are two of the most attractive physical features in Brazil. Not to mention light skin.
The brownest Brazilians are typically the ones who are most obsessed portraying Brazil as a white nation, so they actively try to promote these Germanic Brazilians whenever possible despite them making up less than a single percentage of the overall population. And yes, they do live in their own gated communities.

>>212683992 (OP)
Most people who identify as white Brazilians don't have italian ancestry

>>212684940
We have 15% of people with Italian ancestry in Brazil (presumably this number includes pardos) but 43.46% of the total Brazilian population identifies as white. So Italians mathematically cannot be the majority of white Brazilians

>>212684885
They're between 2.35% and 5.64% of the total Brazilian population. Why do you (and by you I mean anyone here) say things like "less than a single percentage" even though you don't actually know it. It's like talking to kids
And no, the communities are not "gated", and plenty of them are in major urban areas along with everyone elese

>>212685160
Only 15% of the Brapsilian population is white

>>212685250
Based

>>212684195
why are they wearing south tyrolean (italian) clothes?

>>212684412
the Roman emperors had R1b haplotype

>>212687389
Y dna means nothing also the subclades are completely different, some are spilt from each over 3000 years ago

>>212687344
When it comes to White Brazilians, Santa Catarina is German and Italian clay, rather than just German
It's essentialy an Italo-Germanic state in terms of Europeanness
Generally a mix in both blood and culture

>>212685173
Racist retards here assume Brazil is 50% black and living in favelas. They refuse to google it and admit the US has more blacks than Brazil. Their hostility toward Brazilian posters is from their assumption they are black.

io sono bianco, maometti

>>212687344
>>212687737
they're larping as bavarians not tyrolean because nothern germans have no culture you mongs
>>212688223
brazilian posters deserve all the hostility in the world

>>212688223
Oh yeah, Brazil is a website country. Sure why not.

>>212688223
I know. But I think you're wrong on the black part. What people seem to assume is that Brazilian posters must all be those ugly brown people from poorer areas and other regions that look very mixed rather than just black which to them is even worse
Racist people might embrace mixed people when they're attractive/white-passing but actually despise them even more than "pure(r)" blacks when they're unattractive/not white-passing

>>212688250
>più bianco di te

>>212683992 (OP)
>argentinian flag rushes in to call them brown
Fixed

>>212685160
>43.46% of the total Brazilian population identifies as white.

>>212683992 (OP)
not that funny 2bh, unless you consider severe autism to be funny.

>>212688992
She's Northern Brazilian and a parda
Wouldn't be considered white here (SC)

>>212683992 (OP)
kek they do love larping as eyetalians

heres your white brazilian bro

>>212689197
I don't call myself Italian, never did, it's cringe
Even though I'm mostly Italian genetically, speak some Italian, have an Italian passport
I was born and raised in Brazil so I'm Brazilian, it's only a matter of logic and not feeling or opinion, I don't like when people say South or White Brazilians aren't Brazilian/are less Brazilian somehow either

>>212689250
Racial quota juries in public universities are left wingers pushing an agenda

>>212683992 (OP)
Im kinda italian but dont identify with the peninsulars or their modern italian identity so i kinda just point out the historical one

here's your white argies bro

>>212689796
lower left is huwite

>>212689796
Maradona would get called negro de mierda by those not fond of him.
You are not familiar with what we consider white or not

>>212689250
why do you think this made it to the news?

>>212689796
I just realized argensimians have big teeth. why?

>>212690311
More like big noses
Every other argie looks like this

>>212690311
Indios from the north (chaco) have very archaic faces
Guaranis et al

>>212688992

>>212683992 (OP)
are mexicans whiter than south americans

>>212690555
Stessa merda

>>212690588
i will beat the fuck out of any midget latinx woke loser who dares to utter hispanoid language in my presence

>>212684232
>They must live in their own segregated communities.
brazil is very segregate even in big cities, you go to a rich neighborhood and you will only see med looking people with a few german or slavs.

>>212690637
Nigga it’s Italian

>>212684195
>t. Cleyton Obrigado da Silva Heinrich Wenderson Machiavelli dos Santos

>chikaner is seething at us once again
kek

>>212690817
Italian not Portuguese

>>212687389
There are no remains of roman emperors, they were cremated, dumbass

>>212690817
buahauhau

>>212684232
That's me.
And I live with normal Brazilians.
I only like brown women.
Also, I was born in São Paulo but my parents are from Santa Catarina and my father came to work here.
Also, anyone who looks white is white. It's as simple as that.

>>212683992 (OP)
Where

>>212687737
The coastline of Santa Catarina is entirely Azorean.

>>212691868

>>212692174
KEK

>>212692174
Michelangelo, translatore!

>>212689715
Bro estás todo chad métete al gym si no lo has hecho todavía

>>212691868
Coastline yes
However total Portuguese genetic presence is 1/3th of general SC demographics at most
It's the only Brazilian state where Portuguese blood is not dominant even among White Brazilians and there's also a significant degree of separation between German/Italian genes and Portuguese genes

>>212693520
don't most people live on the coast anyway?
also no one gives a flying fuck about the countryside (blumenau might be the only exception) since the relevant cities are not there

>>212692174
HOLY KEK

>>212692316
>Pwease can we l-live with y-you?
>Out of my land, inside out nigger

>>212692174
damn I didn’t know azorians were based like that

>>212692174
When people mention Azoreans in the coastline they literally mean the coastline, a thin strip of land across the state vertically, not a substantial amount of land towards the countryside. The coastline in a more typical geographical sense already includes everyone and not just the Azoreans. And the only place in the coastline that's exceptionally densely populated is the Ilha de Santa Catarina for obvious reasons
Also, people do care about the countryside in all three southern states because unlike the rest of coastal states in Brazil, the population is more relevant and better distributed inwards in them

>>212693803
When people mention Azoreans in the coastline they literally mean the coastline, a thin strip of land across the state vertically, not a substantial amount of land towards the countryside. The coastline in a more typical geographical sense already includes everyone and not just the Azoreans. And the only place in the coastline that's exceptionally densely populated is the Ilha de Santa Catarina for obvious reasons
Also, people do care about the countryside in all three southern states because unlike the rest of coastal states in Brazil, the population is more relevant and better distributed inwards in them

>>212694283
>people do care about the countryside in all three southern states
delusional
no one cares about SC (except blumenau) and PR countryside they're culturally irrelevant to rest the rest of country
the italian community is so irrelevant in SC for example that the whole state is associated to german-brazilians
SC = florianopolis, balneario camboriu and blumenau
PR = coritiba
at least RS is associated to the gaucho culture from the pampas

>>212692174
Keep in mind Azoreans weren't old stock colonial Portuguese and were actually a tiny group of people that migrated to SC for only a couple of years (~6K during 1748-1756), only settling in the coastline and leaving the state largely unhabitated and unexplored for around a century, until heavy German and Italian migration came in and made it more what it is today
There's a reason people hardly ever mention them but constantly mention the other groups

>>212694729
When I say people I mean people here. Any Catarinense cares about their countryside and likewise for Gaúchos and Paranaenses. Rural development and culture is valuable in these states and it's not our problem if other Brazilians are ignorant about it (in fact being totally ignorant about any part of Brazil is shameful for any type of Brazilian in my opinion)
>the italian community is so irrelevant in SC for example
Now that's actually delusional
Here in SC we don't think of the state as only having Germans or being German
German and Italian cultural and ethnic presence share a lot of attention together

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHi9OCA2XXI

People outside the South only talk about Germans in SC because they worship whiteness so they hyperfocus on the whitest people in Brazil

Which is actually stupid because the Italian descendants here are often very white looking or even literally mixed with German descendants, sometimes having Germanic blood from BEFORE the migration for other reasons, so people (from different regions in Brazil) can't even tell when a pale Catarinense is actually mainly Italian rather than German and just assume it's another German-Brazilian

Ignorance is nothing to be proud of but unfortunately people only know stereotypes and care about what they know even within their own country

>>212695524
>When I say people I mean people here.
the point of my post is clearly about cultural relevance whitin the whole country
>People outside the South only talk about Germans in SC because they worship whiteness so they hyperfocus on the whitest people in Brazil
thats either cope or projection
RS has a bunch of german brazilians too but the state is still associated to gauchos
PR has a lot of slavs which are very white looking but they're barely mentioned or remembered
>Ignorance is nothing to be proud
i know pretty well about the things you mentioned i'm just being very realistic here about cultural relevance
if you didn't get the point of my post thats your problem

>>212683992 (OP)
Io no sono Italiano, io sono Argentino

>>212696419
il gibbone signori. la bertuccia ammaestrata.

>>212684232
Brazil is much more socially and economically segregated than ethnically or racially segregated. It's simply a different society. It just so happens that whiter people here are often, but not always, richer
But that is not even always the case with rural whites in Brazil because they're usually middle-class at best and in fact some groups such as Polish-Brazilians tend to be pretty poor
>>212696372
I've heard of RS also being associated with German-Brazilians ever since I was a little kid
Because they're in much smaller numbers and also very poor (which I happen to have talked about right above by coincidence)
Anyway you've said absurd things like the Italian community being irrelevant in SC. I didn't even need to argue against to be quite honest. Maybe Italians in SC are irrelevant if you're someone from the Northeast who also thinks South Brazilians = literal Nazis I guess

>>212684412
from 800AD on yes

>>212696504
You want BBC, that's what i heard

>>212684232
Brazil is much more socially and economically segregated than ethnically or racially segregated. It's simply a different society. It just so happens that whiter people here are often, but not always, richer
But that is not even always the case with rural whites in Brazil because they're usually middle-class at best and in fact some groups such as Polish-Brazilians tend to be pretty poor
>>212696372
I've heard of RS also being associated with German-Brazilians ever since I was a little kid
As for Polish-Brazilians, they are rarely ever talked about because they're in much smaller numbers, and also very poor (which I happen to have talked about right above by coincidence)
Anyway you've said absurd things like the Italian community being irrelevant in SC. I didn't even need to argue against to be quite honest. Maybe Italians in SC are irrelevant if you're someone from the Northeast who also thinks South Brazilians = literal Nazis I guess

Most Brazilian international students who come to study in South Korea are white Brazilians.

>>212696653
>Maybe Italians in SC are irrelevant if you're someone from the Northeast who also thinks South Brazilians = literal Nazis I guess
i from rio and my father is from RS
i'm just being very realistic about it here
german brazilians -> SC
italian brazilians -> SP and RS

This culture in the coast of Santa Catarina was heavily influenced by Azorean immigrants. Santa Catarina was the largest Azorean settlement in Brazil. Previously, there were few inhabitants: Paulistas, Amerindians, some Spaniards, and a few Black slaves. Soon, the Azoreans surpassed this population (there were 6,071 Azoreans compared to 4,193 of other origins in the 18th century). Among the cultural traits left by the Azoreans in Santa Catarina there is the Boi-de-Mamão, the Terno de Reis and the Pau-de-Fita Dance. Their accent still retains many Azorean influences.

The prototypical Santa Catarina accent: https://youtu.be/aL26Hqc2LcE?t=22

Project about the Azoren culture in the South of Brazil: https://youtu.be/rBPX0dtJIVU

>>212696419
Based

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-960in3K3Ns

>>212696935
I hate that guy because he is noise AF

>>212696756
I want a Korean gf
>>212696827
Don't get me wrong, I find the coastal Azorean culture very interesting, and I appreciate their history and presence here
It's just that people often have misbeliefs in regards to my state/region or even Brazil as a whole (as I'm sure any Brazilians in this board are very aware of when it comes to foreigners - and sometimes that presents itself even among Brazilians ourselves)
But now I'm wondering... are you from this group of people yourself?

>>212684118

>>212697536
>André Luis

>>212697536
>pernambuco
KEK
Spiritually White Pardo
The Northeastern man marches on

>>212697536
>>212697971
you joke, but that guy might as well be an actual descendant of colonizadores
whereas the average timmyzilian is not

>>212684940
>>212685160
/thread

>>212683992 (OP)
Why does this weird thread keep going on after its premise being completely debunked? Treat your mental complexes instead of making up scenarios in your head

>>212699646
Because people had some interesting discussions over its course
And it's a good thing that OP and OP supporters remain exposed