Thread 212706381

Vgh... EVROPA, Brazil (New Fribourg)

>>212706381 (OP)
nice plastic chairs thirdie

>>212706381 (OP)
i kneel

>senhor not every Brazilian lives in a Favela
>literally every example of a Brazilian city ever posted to /int/ is a favela

>>212706631
b-but... EVROPA senhor.

Vghhh

>>212706381 (OP)
>>212706843
Are you sure this isn't Europe? Looks just like outside my window

>>212706381 (OP)
>>212706843
i know you're posting the worst parts of these cities but lmao at blumenau

>>212706381 (OP)
That's what all of Europe is going to look like by 2050.

>>212706631
KEK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DYqXYHUDa0

>>212706987
>worst parts
that's average

>>212708664
>A...At least we're white... right?
KEK

>>212708664
I thought Santa Catarina was one of the richer states.

>>212708714
He's deliberately posting photos of the periphery, the bairros, most of which built by out of state migrants, in order to ameliorate his inferiority complex.

>>212708714
He's deliberately posting photos of the periphery, the bairros, most of which built by out of state migrants, in order to ameliorate his inferiority complex.

>>212706381 (OP)
Do you know that Brazil is the rape capitol of the whole world, with about sixty rapes happening there each minute?

>>212708714
It has a lot less places like this and a lot less brown people in comparison
You can find poverty anywhere in Brazil but in certain areas it's a common sight whereas in others you actually have to look for it to find something equivalent

>>212708764
>>212708795
>>212708819
Gotcha. I'd love to visit Floripa for a week to see as many of the beaches as I could.

>>212708664
thats a different city tho
>>212708764
>t-those are zainichi
sounds like cope

>>212708830
I've been to Floripa it's literally paradise. The main city is okay but don't stay there. You can visit but stay in the island. I stayed at Canto dos Araçás next to Lagoa was there for over three weeks and loved it so much. Do rent a car though, it's pretty cheap and it's the only way you can really explore and get around and see everything.

>>212708842
>sounds like cope
It's not me who's wasting time posting cherry picked pictures about places a thousand kilometers away from me

>>212708842
>google state with most migration influx
>google where those migrants come from
Lmao.

>>212708888
i'm not OP you dumbass

>>212708907
the people in those pics itt look whiter than the average nordestino if this is what you're implying
and look at all those streets with german surnames
ngl i think you're coping here

>>212708714
>Em SC, 74% da população não tem saneamento básico
Not sure, but infraestructure kinda sucks, Anyway São Paulo and DF are the best states, in every way.

>>212706381 (OP)
firsties would see this and say "comfy"

Brazilian Dubai

>>212709163
Posting these pics won't make you feel any better, anon. Santa Catarina is not Eden but it's still miles above the shithole you certainly live in.

>>212709201
Minas Gerais has better sanitation, not sure about murder rates though.

>>212709056
DF?

>>212710363
Distrito Federal, basically Brasilia.

>>212709163
there's more soul in that single picture than the entire country of Canada

>>212706631
Rio has a lot of favelas despite being the second wealthiest state by nominal GDP. It has the second highest rate of people living in favelas in the southern half of the country, in first comes Espírito Santo with staggering 25%, being also the second most 'favelized' state in the country behind Amazonas in the North, with 34%.

The brazilian national survey estimates about 8% of the population lives in favelas, the UN has their estimates in about 12%. But the favela distribution is very unequal, states like Amapá and Maranhão have high favelization rates but have a relatively small population, it's not an uniquely north/south divide either, states like Tocantins, Roraima have rates lower than most southern/southeastern states, while Rio and Espírito Santo as mentioned before have it higher than most northern/northeastern states. Mato Grosso do Sul is the only state with a rate of people living in favelas bellow 1%.

>>212709056
The federal district is not an state, it's an special territory under authority of the State of the Union itself and run by a local goverment body tied to the Union. Althought it does have a 'Governor' and a local Assembly Hall, it does not have an equivalent to a State Justice body or an State constitution and does not have the same level of administrative freedom as states.

>>212709163
ok, now we know you are full of shit
as a middle income argie I need to step in, if someone know south Brazil it's us
I have been to Camboriu and it's a amazing, I've also visited Florianopolis and Tramandai both are paradise

>>212708664
Brasil made German immigrants into trailer trash just like we did

>>212711066
No one lives in trailers in Brazil we don't have a local trailer industry

I really want to visit Brazil, Argentina and Chile but I keep hearing so many stories from locals, especially Brazilians, how it is dangerous enough and how there is a fair chance I will get robbed or worse. Can anons of these countries advise?

Now I just realized, about 6% of americans live in trailers. Would americans have favelas if they didn't had a trailer industry?
Maybe not as messy as slums in Brazil or the Philippines, but something messier than the places they usually call ghettoes over there.

>>212706843
is that an actual white guy?

>>212711186
It depends where you visit.

>>212711186
>>212711230
Your flag is getting wet, are you sweating?

SABESP

>>212710831
>Mato Grosso do Sul
checked wiki and
>savanna
>summer tems 20-29
>winter temps 14-25
>size of germany
>rich farmland
>population 2.3M
wtf? this place should have 100 million people in it. why isn't it chock full of favelados?

>>212711254
>>212711265
Is any of you retards gonna expand a little on your answer instead of post dumb shit, where should I go in Brazil in order to have a good experience and not get stabbed? How are the people accepting of gringos there, what do they think of Europeans?

picrel is easily one of your greatest countrymen of all time, i saw him live recently without knowing anything about him and couldn't believe what i witnessed, if it weren't for him i probably wouldn't even be in this thread

>>212711358
is that an actual white guy? wtf

>>212711348
Favelas are overall mostly a product of rural exodus to cities as a source of cheap labour combined with preexisting high population density and lack of planning, the center-west was never industrial and was basically still frontierland 70 years ago, lot's of government investment since the construction of Brasilia and a long term development plan that transcended the fall of the old goverment.

>>212706381 (OP)
Most of Detroit looks nicer than this

>>212711466
so it will get flooded in the future? that place can support way more people. what's the catch? lack of access to sea trade?

>>212711405
I dont think you really understand how it works down there, yes they are mostly very mutted and brown, but there is still many south americans who either genuinely kept their line exclusively white, or ended up looking white because they dont have a lot of non-european ancestry. Eloy Casagrande, you can look him up yourself, he could maybe pass as a local in southern parts of Europe.

>>212711358
>where should I go in Brazil in order to have a good experience and not get stabbed?
São Paulo and the south. But, as I said, it depends where you visit. Tourists seem to love the beaches of Santa Catarina's coastal cities (Florianópolis, Balneário Camboriú etc.).

>How are the people accepting of gringos there, what do they think of Europeans
Between acceptance and worship. You see, Brazilians have an inferiority complex towards Europeans, specially if you have distinctive European features such as blond hair and blue eyes.

>>212709163
why do these places always have unroofed houses? put some scrap roofing on that and its free real estate

>>212711523
>Between acceptance and worship. You see, Brazilians have an inferiority complex towards Europeans, specially if you have distinctive European features such as blond hair and blue eyes

Leftists are not average people. People here don't give a shit about this.

>blonde hair
>European features
You mean Northern European features.

>>212711598
>People here don't give a shit about this.
They do.

>You mean Northern European features.
Southern and Eastern Europeans also have them.

>>212711596
1 - We have no economic freedom
2 - Brazilian has leftists in power for decades and socialist government overwhelms the population with lot of taxes so the poor can't afford even ink

>>212711596
We have European tier taxes, but zero public security, shit education, shit infrasctructure. But the average leftard think it's normal pay lot of taxes and leftist politicians can spend 20.000 dollars on rugs

>>212711666
all our tax money gets wasted too but we don't have that many niggers yet so it's less dangerous in the steet.

>>212711629
>>212711666
ok but surely the value from a working house is more than the cost of some roofing, i will come to brazil and teach you guys such miraculous things

>>212711617
Again, leftists of Twitter are not people. Average people don't give a shit to you.

>>212711684
But you have way more economic freedom than us.

>>212711718
this seems like one of those easily cooked statistics that measures a bunch of proxy stats

the only businesses actually based here all exist to extract and redistribute government grants and contracts won through corruption. everything useful gets done by foreign companies that export the profits.

>>212711743
We have things like the fastest internet of Latin America due to foreign companies. You should be thankful for your economic freedom.

>>212711491
Maybe but that's unlikely for the foreseeable future, there was never goverment focus on building the central-western industrial economy. From PND 10-year-plans laid by the dictatorship under Sudeco, and supported by Embrapa, to current day workers party rule, the whole idea for the place is to be a giant mechanized bread-basket with some degree of local processing and then ship its products to near-coast industral hubs and ports.
SUDECO btw was the special government agency created to develop that region, there were 3 of such agencies, SUDECO for the center-west, SUDAM for the north and SUDENE for the northeast. The center-west was still one of the poorest regions of the country during the height of internal migration, the so called brazilian economic miracle (that's why it had its own dedicated development agency) It did receive migrants then, but they were mostly farmers seeking the 'new' land, many were poor, some already came with money to spare, but things were sorted out quite well thanks to careful management and commitment to the plan despite changes in the goverment and administrations, the plans for the north-south railway, recently finished in 2023, were laid by SUDECO way back in the 60's to connect the center-west to Maranhão for quick access to Caribbean and North Atlantic sea export routes, back when the region still barely produced any substantial amount of grain.

Anyway, althought the industry sector has been growing fast there it's still comparatively small with its agricultural prias, there's no major demand for labor, also the economic and labor circunstances of Brazil are different in comparison with back in the day.

>>212711992
I'll explain it to you briefly, favelas only exist due to the historically lack of economic freedom here + the socialist state overwhelms the population and industries with lot of taxes, Norway tier taxes

>>212712094
Generals Medici and Geisel were socialists? That's a rather silly worldview, you're too obessed with political rethoric. The abundance of slums in thirdworld countries is mostly driven by rural poverty masses transitioning into urban poverty masses under a short period of time.

>>212712282
Almost all Latin America never had economic freedom. Chile had Pinochet, Pinochet opened Chilean economy and nowadays Chile barely has very ugly slums unlike the rest of Latin America. But you will never admit because you are a state lover.

>>212712282
>Generals Medici and Geisel were socialists?
Ironically yes. This is why leftists like Lula love them and copy them a lot

>>212712356
The chilean economic miracle also led to the quick emergence of slums through the country, this was addressed by late pinochet rule and subsequent goverments.
>>212712372
You're falling for 21th century neoliberal nonsense in which no one but neoliberals are true rightwingers. That's bullshit.

>>212712617
As a expected, leftists will never admit they are wrong. They are too arrogant or too dumb to admit.
>neoliberal
China is more neoliberal than 99% of Latin America nowadays and you love to suck Chinese dicks

brasileiros falando inglês para brasileiros

No bostil nós temos o pior do neoliberalismo com o pior do comunismo e o pior do neofascismo

>>212712702
If you doubt anything I just said you're free to look it up yourself. I will not be your strawman for today.

>>212712760
they are doing it for everybody else be able to read, it's called basic human decency

>>212712810
Cade as favelas chilenas feias? O liberdade econômica do Chile se manteve até hoje. Não adianta dizer que isso é obra de esquerdistas que não é, mas você nunca vau admitir, né filho da puta?

>>212712887
Who cares about macaco economics

>>212712896
Please, I will not debate with your emotional womanly tantrums. I am cutting this conversation short because you made obvious that it's not worth it, I won't be used for a strawman, I may waste by sunday morning with meaningless gaming and 4chan but not with being called a leftist every 2 minutes by someone who don't even know what that is.
Calm yourself down and try looking at the picture once again, the surrounding, and understand what is there. Whatever you may need is documented, whatever eles is also documented and can be understood with analysis and context for the time. I will not be replying any further.

>>212706381 (OP)
There are barely any real Germans there, if any.

>>212706381 (OP)
Nice

>>212706381 (OP)
uncanny resemblance to the original Fribourg

>>212710984
The union doesn't have special authority over the federal district compared to states. The government of the federal district is as "tied" to the union as any state government. They have the same level of administrative freedom, perharps more because they don't need to share power with municipal governments.

They have a constitution called organic law of the federal district

Outsite the cherrypicked favela areas, Nova Friburgo is still ugly

>>212711523
Why are paulistas/southerners like this?

>>212708664
sexo in favela NOW

>>212711195
nah, in both Canada and America, trailer parks are literally just ghettos with white people. functionally the same, the same levels of drug use, teen pregnancy, robbery, and overdosing happen. if trailer parks didnt exist these people would fit in fine in any metro city ghettos

>>212708801
i thought that's Sweden

>>212706381 (OP)
id rather live there than in a soulless suburb or in a downtown goyblock
wait. i actually do live there

>>212706843
>>212708664
>>212709163
These are obviously cherrypicked parts that are like 1% of cities in the South to make it look worse than it actually is.
Pic related is how the average low-class neighborhood actually looks over there.

>>212706843
reminds me of far cry 4, gosh, such a great game.

>>212706843
>>212708664
>>212709163

Favelas outside of Seoul vs Seoul.

>>212721485
Favelas outside of Balneário Camboriú vs Balneário Camboriú

I think this should make the point.

Also to anyone wondering how the South of Brazil can have poor but very white looking people living in it just look at the he girls in >>212721017 and even the blurred people in the other pics before.

We aren't lying when we say we have German, Northern Italian, Polish Brazilians in humble rural areas. Being white doesn't make you rich (or better at all). Also remember the "trailer trash" people in USA and Canada like some other anons mentioned.

>>212721985
Você morre de complexo de inferioridade com brancos, certo? Saia da internet e procure tratamento psicológico. Não suje a imagem dos pardos normais como nós.

>>212721985
we know there are some whites in brazil. its just funny how brazilians need everyone to acknowledge that there are whites in brazil every 2 minutes

>>212706381 (OP)
insane that we let brazilians ruin such a beautiful country

>>212722115
Favelas can be easily fixed, just remove all communists and socialists from this country and we can get it

can't you mentally ill shits go back to /bra/ or whichever hellhole you came from?

>>212722071
Me confundiu com algum outro anão nesse fio. Sou branco, literalmente do interior de SC. Só estou explicando sobre as periferias e o fato de que quando a gente diz que as pessoas no Sul são mais brancas (o que não é nada de especial, mas muitos Brasileiros pardos adoram elas que nem deuses só por isso) não é larp.
>>212722089
Because people act like every single one of the 212.600.000 Brazilians look like ugly favela people every 2 seconds. See how you said "some" as if it's 100 people in some bumfuck nowhere hole. It's now just 'some' it's several dozen million people of different European backgrounds even.

>>212722160
>just remove all communists and socialists from this country
this unironically fixes all country on earth

>>212718236
The TJDFT and MPDFT, aswell as the police and firefighting departments are under direct Union Authority, not of its local goverment. The federal district's taxes, resource allocation, limits and quotas for public service spending budgets are defined and controled by the Union aswell.

>>212708664
This one doesn't look bad

>>212718671
it's pathetic how they attwhore so much and accouse everyone who criticize anything about their regions for being brown or from the northeast and having inferiority complex towards them
i'm from rio and the pics posted itt unironically look worse than most of the favelas here
but i've already been in santa catarina and still is my favorite state it's like a less soulful and more boring version of rio but with less violence
all the butthurt and projections posted here are lame though and once again i'm not the OP who said he's from minas

>>212724228

>i'm from rio and the pics posted itt unironically look worse than most of the favelas here
>i'm from rio and the pics posted itt unironically look worse than most of the favelas here
>i'm from rio and the pics posted itt unironically look worse than most of the favelas here
>i'm from rio and the pics posted itt unironically look worse than most of the favelas here
>i'm from rio and the pics posted itt unironically look worse than most of the favelas here

Don't make me post it.

>>212724828
that looks better than the others posted here
at least it's paved

>>212724061
The police is under authority of the district's secretary of security and the firefighters are under the governor. The federal intervention in 2023 happened because of that. The federal government can intervene in state governments in much the same way, this is not something special to the district.

You are right about the judiciary branch being controlled by the union with the TJDFT and MPDFT but the other powers are subjected to the local government.

The budget is controlled by the Secretaria de Estado de Economia do Distrito Federal (https://www.economia.df.gov.br/pt/leis-e-normas-orcamentarias), which is an agency of the state/district executive branch, not the union's, according to this:
https://portaldatransparencia.gov.br/pessoa-juridica/00394684000153

>>212724228
>i'm from rio and the pics posted itt unironically look worse than most of the favelas here

>>212724228
You did NOT just say that

>>212725486
it does
and i've been to one of the worst parts of the state
it's funny because when i went to santa catarina i couldn't see any of that except for blumenau which you can see it's very shitty apart from a certain area

>>212718266
Nearly all Shitzilian cities are ugly.
Brazil is an ugly country in general, in every aspect except nature.

>>212724975
>at least it's paved
LMAO DIS NIGA ON DRUGS

>>212726159
In general beautiful areas in some of our cities are nice because of building regulations and protected historical buildings. Deregulated anarchy makes the third world ugly