why do people dislike them so much? they’re always normal and nice when i meet them IRL

i honestly think turkophobia goes much deeper than the surface level, i feel people would dislike them even if they were christian

>>212757930 (OP)

>>212757930 (OP)
I don't get it either.

Turkish people are extremely cringe online and act like pajeets. Granted the other balkaners arent much better. But turks are easily the worst to interact with. For the usual reasons. That being said turks get a lot more hate than they deserve. Its probably because most have a pro western christian bias and turks did a number on europe. But interacting with turks outside 4chan is a near guaranteed cringefest and and its just too cringe

>>212757930 (OP)
You're delusional.
We all love them, especially Doner Sultans, may God keep them healthy so that they can feed my children aswell

>>212757930 (OP)
>why do people dislike them so much? they’re always normal and nice when i meet them IRL
Just Balkan seething gone viral cause it's funny. Every Turk I met IRL was decent.

>>212757930 (OP)
there are lots of random nationalities and ethnicities you have never heard of that have their whole identity built around being butthurt at us and it's all because the empire we had didn't do any assimilation or replacement towards minorities
if we were like the european countries who assimilated everyone and or kicked out other minorities in their mainland non of these would happen

>>212758055
>Turkish people are extremely cringe online and act like pajeets
yeah but just as you said, Balkaners, slavs, and other MENAites are just as if not moreso cringe in online circles.
and what’s funnier is even through a historical lense, while Turks DID do a number on Europe, their crimes are no different than, say, the crimes committed by others in history such as the British, Kurds, the Russians, etc.

>>212757930 (OP)
The second you meet a nice Turk and grow a somewhat positive view of them; 10 times as many come along and make you absolutely despise them with their retardation and shitty behavior.

greeks and armenians spread hate all the time
turks were the main enemy of europeans for centuries back then
turkish diaspora in europe is not the best since they immigrated from rural turkey
turkiye does not (totally) obey western global system like other countries so western countries spread "turkey bad" content on the internet time to time

>>212758181
BBC fiend

>>212758356
turks are black, retard.

>>212757930 (OP)
most people here are extremely retarded and do deserve the hate but it's mostly because the Ottomans were still around until like 100 years ago and fought most of the western world
also Armenians, the Armenian diaspora is extremely powerful. Most people aren't aware of this because everyone focuses on the Jews but the Armenian lobby is almost as powerful as them

>>212758478
Explain this to me

>>212757930 (OP)
They do not function like humans, you don’t know turks yet

>>212757930 (OP)
butthurt

>>212758164
No way turks are in a different league in terms of cringe and victim complex. Like yes turks get a lot of unfair shit, for example every instagram post featuring turkey, no matter how irrelevant it is, has some butthurt greek or spic saying turkey no yurop, cockroach turkey subhuman!!!. Its a nasty obsession and i can understand turks being fed up with it. But turks also think a lot of shit is some global conspiracy against them. A guy said he prefers german style doner kebab over turkish doner? They must be secretly plotting to steal the dish from turkey!!! No they fucking dont. They just prefer the german version more. (I do side with the turks on the doner kebab issue tho, germans are actual food thieves)

>>212758534
me on the left

>>212757930 (OP)
turks are super weird and cringe ultra nazis / muslims

They think everything is turkish

Mozart,Beethoven,Punjabi Mc, Gyros? turkish !
They think turks are like 1 billion people they think some niggas from Uzbekistan are also turkish they call it TURAN empire. Turks are also pretty gay and love to get naked and love massage hairy people.

Most of them are fat, small, low testo, die at age 19 crashing the Mercedes AMG against the tree becuase they think Michael Schumacher was also turkish.

they are also into anal and pedo stuff

most cringe, weird people on planet earth, even streetshitting jeets are more likeable

>>212758580
>They must be secretly plotting to steal the dish from turkey!!!
nta but to be fair, everyonr in that region does this. i dated an armenian and she would constantly talk about how georgians, turks, greeks, russians, etc. would “steal” armenian dishes or “claim” their stuff too. some of it was true, but sometimes it was just completely made up seethe

>>212758545
Okay but an arab cant be saying this kek

>>212758686
How can you "steal" food, thats a rediculous concept to begin with

>>212758798
he’s a sir

>>212758676
merhaba iki

>>212758580
>i can understand turks being fed up with it
It's this, you have no idea how bad it is. Can't talk about Turkey anywhere without 90% of the replies being "yeah but they did the Armenian genocide" or "They're oppressing the Kurds!!!"
I'm not a nationalist person and it's enough to drive even me mad, can't imagine how frustrating it must be for the average retarded ultra-nationalist who can barely speak English

>>212757930 (OP)
>why do people dislike them so much?
I am Turkish and I hate them too. Turks are retarded and uncivilized people.
>b-but I visited Turkey and they gave me free tea!!!
You have to live here to understand the true nature of Turkish people. They don't wanna fuck up the image of the country abroad (like it has a good image to begin with) and will be extraordinarily nice to you. They only show their true colors to each other and people they deem below themselves (arab, black etc.)
There is a very tiny minority of decent people here but they are ashamed of being Turkish and are always looking for ways to get out of the country and unturk themselves.

>>212757930 (OP)
turkophobia is 100% real and it's worse than you realize
turks being retards on the internet made it worse but it's been around for a lot longer than that, you can thank the brits for their centuries long anti-ottoman propaganda

>>212757930 (OP)
fuck you hasan

>>212758525
yurtdısında doğan türk olarak annem her zaman bana 'yahudi ermeni hem de aynı halk' söylüyordu

sorry for broken turkish

>>212759193
>>212758931
>>212759072
being born in england i had no friends even when i was a child because i was turkish, i was placed as an outsider so now im grown up and even though i live in this country i always say i'm only turkish. i don't care about being british, just making money, hope umit ozdag wins and ill go back and ill fix my retarded turkish. i think turks from turkey think im a retard for this, but i dont really care, rather be there and people judge me than here and people judge me.

>>212759193
Wdym you guys get constant praise on here on youtube on Instagram, the only people who hate you are some commie kurdjeets and armenjeets

>>212757930 (OP)

>>212759289
aga ingiltere gibi her ırktan insanın olduğu yerde nasıl ırkçılığa uğradın ki zencilere bile ayrımcılık yapmıyor adamlar

>>212759289
You'll be judged in Turkey too. Turkish people are second class citizens in Turkey

>>212759352
bait is supposed to be believable

>>212759371
that's why he's waiting for Özdağ to win (it wont happen)

>>212759193
>you can thank the brits for their centuries long anti-ottoman propaganda
I dunno I think it is because you invaded European for centuries and slaughtered millions... Which you still celebrate.

>>212759403
It's so unlikely to happen my brain just ignored that part

>>212759423
Rome also did that, you guys love Rome
the vikings did it too, but no one hates you guys

>>212759371
>You'll be judged in Turkey too
GigaBased
TGD (total gürbetçi death)

>>212759423
>>212759455
Turks are white, so the Ottomans going to war with Balkans is like Germany and France going to war

>>212759371
i know this. i'm not so stupid that i think it will be sunshine and rainbows, but it is the country my ancestors died for, i'd rather there than here. i get it's hard to understand especially as a lot of turks are suffering and would give anything to come to europe, but for me my heart doesn't belong here.

>>212759370
kardeşim ingiltere hakkında yanlış fikiri aldın be çocukken yetişkinler okuldan beni takip edip saldırıyordu günlük. sadece londrada öyle dediğin gibi valla

>>212757930 (OP)
here turks and bulgarians are united in gypsyphobia

>>212759457
I'm not a gurbetçi my parents didn't come for work they just fucking liked monty python and even they regret this big mistake but now life has settled and blahblahblah

>>212759550
>they just fucking liked monty python
based

>>212759455
Vikings only raided a little and fought a battle here and there. In the case of Rome it ceased to exist centuries ago, accomplished things that had never done before and had some positive impacts - Rome also still has a profound in law, architecture, art, engineering, language and more. The Ottomans left behind almost exclusively destruction.

>>212759574
its a good fucking movie series and shit and i love john cleese but english people aren't really like that their humour sucks dick irl

>>212759496
Go home Mehmet.

>>212759500
vay amk

They are pretty nice especially the Turk on /extraflags/

Vikings were Turks

>>212759667
this is my favorite schizo theory, it's a fun read

>>212759643
neye amk amk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0DTBlCB9ko
i used to cry to this song as a child cause i felt this niggas pain i miss my home
İÇERİM YANIYOR YAR YAR YARAM PEK DERİİNNNNNN
BANA NAZLI YARDAN AMANN BİR HABER VERİN

>>212759500
Don't think just because you're Turkish, government and locals will be on your side and treat you well. You can get stabbed to death by an 15 yo kurd spawn on the streets for keeping eye contact with him for 3 seconds and government will be on their side. They will be out in 5 years and you'll be in a grave. It happens often. At least several times in a week
> it is the country my ancestors died for
The Turkey your ancestors died for is long gone. Erdogan's new Turkey is completely different entity.

>>212759797
Every problem we have will be easy to fix once Erdoğan is gone. If he's still here after 3 years, just completely give up on the country

>>212759797
dediğini biliyorum zaten ama aynı şey ingilterede ?? doğal var türkiyede yemek var türkiyede hayat var
bari türkiyede ölürsem kendimin ülkemde ölürüm

don't think you are the first turk to say all this stuff to me, i get you guys all have good intentions, but i have thought this way since i was a child and it has always been the same. i think turks don't realise how shit other countries are too until they go there, many turks i know who came to england promptly decided to fuck off back home when they couldn't handle the depression. i don't mean kurdish kebabmen either. if you don't have the patriotism it's okay i'm not going to judge you but i love my country i love my history and i love my culture so your words will not deter me, i have already been stabbed in england and almost died several times this does not scare me. thank you, and if i see a k*Rdo piçi try to attack me in türkiye i will rape him.

>>212759708
aga seni anlıyorum da ingilterenin yaşam standartları buradan daha iyi yani burayı kendi ülken olarak görüyor olabilirsin ama buraya geldiğinde işler istediğin gibi olmayabilir tercih sende

>>212757930 (OP)
Its getting annoying from all sides, I get that greeks and and armenians post all this anti-turks, threads over and over and turks respond with to that, but when fucking south americans start posting anti-turk memes and pakis post pro-turk memes while turks post anti-paki memes??? Also if someone is interested there is this cool anime where turks colonize mars and gain superpowers and then a coalition force start travel also travel there to fight them on mars!

>>212760039
>i think turks don't realise how shit other countries are
yeah this
everyone here has a victim complex, just yesterday that zoomer youtuber speed was here. the comments here and the english comments about his stream overall were talking about the turkey looking great and the stream being fun, the turkish social media was all seething about how it embarrassed the country and made it look like india
>>212760292
>pakis post pro-turk memes
erdogan is pushing his propaganda to the pakis so they see him as the new caliph and turkey as the leader of islamic states, young turks all hate erdogan and islam so they hate the pakis for worshiping erdo and coming here to shill sharia
is the manga still on hiatus btw?

>>212760370
Young turks I met at uni were nice and friendly, no one was super religious and were a lot of fun, and they all studied in good fields. Idk about the manga I just watched the s1 anime.

I've been thinking I like Turkish people. They give cheap hair transplants and brought coffee culture to the west when everyone rejected it. It's crazy to think there was a time not so long ago where people thought of products from their country like they would think about America today

>>212760080
türkiyenin ekonomik krizi anlıyorum de cahil değilim. burada para kazanıp şirket kurucam ondan sonra taşınacam. ama en iyi arkadaşım arjentinli onların ekonomisi türkiyesinin gibi bok (enflasyonla) yine kendi ülkesine döndü

>>212760370
yes I know recently my feed on instagram has all become turkish and they're so embarrassed that turks didn't know english to help him? nigger he is in turkey, why doesn't he learn basic turkish? i hate all the european pandering.

>>212757930 (OP)
They're like pajeet-lite

>>212757930 (OP)
since i watched this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpG0z-npFIY i think turks are good people

Honestly, I think the Ottoman Empire was overrated too.
Even at its height, its population was about the same as France, despite ruling over such a vast area.
In my view, conquering the Balkans wasn’t proof that they were stronger than Western Europe. it just happened because the region was fragmented into many small states instead of having big unified powers like Britain, France, or Germany.

>>212760706
A lot of the land was of a lot lower quality in terms of population growth, exempli gratia deserts and mountains, which is separated the various people. This is a recurring problem through unifying the regions, and a lot of empires seem to hit a brick wall here whether from the east going west or the west going east.

>>212760692
i cried when they took the dying baby cat to the vet :(

>>212760706
A lot of the land was of a lot low quality in terms of population growth, exempli gratia deserts and mountains, which separated the various people. This is a recurring problem throughout history unifying the region, and a lot of empires seem to hit a brick wall here whether they are originating from the east and going west or originating in the west going east.

I used to have a Turkish friend on Skype that would get livid when you post the Armenian flag, he was also pro-Israel for some reason.
https://youtu.be/diJ49Y7lwow

>>212760706
A lot of the land was of a lot lower quality in terms of population growth, exempli gratia deserts and mountains, which also separated the various people into different cultures. This is a recurring problem throughout history in unifying the region, and a lot of empires seem to hit a brick wall here whether they are originating from the east and going west or originating in the west going east.

as a t*rk i have t*rkophobia.It's more like disgust, actually
I didn't choose to be t*rk ,t's not my fault. I hate being t*rk

>>212760706
>stronger than Western Europe
That's a very modernist view of looking at it. It was one of the many states in the region that conquered the other states and grew to be a large empire. It was never Ottomans vs Europe
It was pretty overrated though, mainly because it was pretty much a failed state for the second half of its lifetime, it's actually impressive how it survived in that state for 300 years

>>212760080
Vallah ingilizin dedigini her gurbetci yasiyor. Sosyal birisen bu seni cok uzebilir ama degilsen dedigin gibi hayat standartlari burda daha iyi. Turklerin cogu sosyal insanlar olduklari icin bunlan bas edemiyorlar hele sonradan gelenler iyice.

>>212761248
Actually, I didn't focus on whether the Ottoman Empire was stronger or weaker than Western Europe, but gpt translated it strangely.

What I mean is that if there had been a unified country like Germany, England, and France with a population of more than 10 million in the Balkan Peninsula, the Ottoman Empire would never have advanced into Europe. (It is said that before being conquered by the Ottoman Empire, the only countries in the Balkan Peninsula with a population of over 1 million were Greece and Serbia)

>>212761480
Ottomans were also pretty small before they conquered the Balkans though. I don't think we have the actual numbers because they were still half-nomadic and weren't holding records in the 1300s but they were just one of the many small beyliks in Anatolia and were fighting other Turks too

>>212761851
I looked it up and the population of the Ottoman Empire was estimated to be around 4 million by the end of the 14th century (Murad I - Bayezid I).

At this point, it wouldn't have been difficult to subjugate several regions with populations of only a few hundred thousand.

>>212762087
You’re forgetting that the majority of those were greeks with dubious loyalty and they often had to fight off coalitions of several balkan countries.

>>212762255
At the time the Ottomans started conquering the Balkans, Greeks actually made up only a small part of their population.

Most of the empire’s population was still in Anatolia, and the Balkan subjects were mainly Bulgarians, Serbs, Albanians, etc.
The Greek heartlands weren’t fully conquered until decades later.

>>212758057

OK but 97% of kebabs shop are owned by pakis
The only Turkish thing there is the picture of hagia Sophia hanging on the wall and the cockroaches everywhere

>>212762405
Bro greeks were a majority in anatolia back then. They were turkified over the centuries. Especially the coast was mostly greek in that period.

>>212757930 (OP)
they're all stupid and disgusting and i'm the only exception :3

>>212762405
Anatolia was also Greek. Seljuks were nomadic so they just conquered towns and moved on so they could tax them, they didn't replace the natives

>>212757930 (OP)
Because they are Muslims. If they weren't Muslims everyone would like them.

>>212762618
By the time they conquered Anatolia they were already settled. The turks they settled in Anatolia were nomadic of course.

>>212762652
most "muslims" here are just deists in denial

>>212762611
how do i buy a qt turkish man as my pet :3

>>212762546
It’s partly true. But it’s an exaggeration to say they were the majority across Anatolia as a whole — most Greeks were concentrated in coastal cities and a few specific areas. (Greeks still formed large communities, especially along the western and southern coasts of Anatolia, even into the 14th century)

After the Seljuk conquest in the 11th century, central and eastern Anatolia became predominantly Turkic and Kurdish, and by the time of the Ottomans, the inland regions were largely Turkified.

>>212757930 (OP)
It's unironically because we are just an ugly race. Generations of race mixing produces weird looking people like us. Whites are worshipped for being light colored, niggers are worshipped for BBC and fat ass, Asians are worshipped for being cute, there is nothing attractive about us. We are brownoid, short, fat, our faces do not fit any beauty standard. We have the lowest global SMV after pajeets.

>>212762769
how are brazilians so sexo then?

>>212762726
If I hear eyvallah one more time or the ezan I will make an angry Reddit post.

>>212759193
>you can thank the brits for their centuries long anti-ottoman propaganda

You can thank the fact that your retarded empire basically fucked up half of the European continent for 600 years and your ancestors were barbaric raiders who pillaged and burned everything on their path. And now you act like "nooo me ottoman empire was based and multicultural" like the idiot here >>212758143 and pretend like horrible things like the blood tax or all the ethnic cleansing you did on Greeks, Armenian and other minorities are all a joke.

>>212762769
Turk is not a race though

>>212762731
uhmm... can you afford a plane ticket?

>>212762803
Honestly the Ottoman Empire was far more humane than it’s contemporaries. They existed during the time that spaniards and portuguese wiped out whole cultures without a care and during the time that religious wars killed off a large part of the german population.

>>212762803
Suppressing revolts isn't "ethnic cleansing", you should know that as an Italian if you know anything about your history. You should also know how Rome dealt with its religious minorities, because even the blood tax was hecking tolerant compared to that

>>212762791
Aren't they also known for being ugly?
>>212762807
What politically correct term do you prefer? People of ugliness?

>>212762769
>It's unironically because we are just an ugly race.

Nah you guys are good.
The actors in Turkish soap operas are fine, and the women are PVRE MED QVEENS

>>212762994
it's a national identity, it's like saying American is a race
Turkey has so many ethnic groups, people from İzmir, Ankara and Trabzon all look completely different yet call themselves Turks. It's not a race.

>>212762769
Are you an incel bro? Have you seen any greeks that people claim as white or at least SEAsians? Turks are not ugly at all and whenever I go outside I see 10s everywhere.

>>212762967

See, that's the perfect example of what I just said.
You ask a brit or a French about the colonial time, he will tell you "yeah we did bad stuff"
You ask a burger, a Portuguese or a spaniard about the natives in America, they'll tell you "yeah, we were kinda assholes back then"

But for turks, that doesn't apply. Every single time you face them with the crimes they did in the past, they always have a justification for that, and somehow they start twitching and distorting the topic and try to make them the victims. It's a very Russia-like behavior.

>>212757930 (OP)
Online Turks are just pajeets with better looks and hygiene

>>212757930 (OP)
In my case it's entirely online. Personally and irl I could not care less about Turkey or it's people. They barely cross my mind and I've only heard Turkish spoken irl once (tourist lady asking about the price of something). My idea of "Türkiye" is Erdoğan and the Mount & Blade games. My sister used to be obsessed with Turkish dramas and they suck anyway. Other than that I just don't care. They don't have enough of a presence in my region/country for me to form a detailed opinion. Most Arabs don't even think about Turks at all despite how often foreigners say so. We fought the Turks to form the early Saudi States so there is some historical rivalry but it really isn't anything people spend a significant amount of time thinking about. The public opinion is apathy. What few experiences I've had with Turks were nothing special. Just average brown people. Occasional annoying nationalists do get on my nerves but they were not the norm

>>212762769
>SMV is lower than black people

hahaha Blacks may be good for sex, but they can't be loved

>>212763012
Actors are one in a million in terms of attractiveness and they still have to get a lot of plastic surgery.
>>212763123
I don't care what you want to call it, all these regions are just brownoid subhumans. Americans are also an ugly race because they are too race mixed and eat like shit.
>>212763141
Yes I am, but you are coping to pretend we are not ugly as fuck. The reason why Greeks and SEAs are ugly is because they are also brown mutts. The same reasons apply to us.

>>212763227
>waaah you should feel bad because yiur ancestors killed people when they revolted
>just accept it and apologize instead of defending it
How about you stop being a cuck
This is the same mentality that made the west kneel to the blacks and kiss their feet

>>212762769
>t. some ugly ass nigga

>>212763229
true

>>212763350
You're projecting really hard dude, sorry you're ugly and brown

>>212763227
Natural outcome of the education here. It doesn't really tell the bad stuff like how janissaries worked but it also covers up the bad stuff happened to us like how turks suffered after balkan wars and WW1. This parody still holds up today kek https://youtu.be/o9xic9G0qvs

>>212763558
>>212763597
How is it projection when it accurately represents the entire country? Do you think Turks would be this hated if they looked like Norwegians? Just be for real.

>>212763731
We did learn those in school though, don't know if it's different now but they were a part of the education 15 years ago

>>212763731
german education system is cucked and teaches the kids to be ashamed of their ancestors. it's one thing to learn from their mistake, but it is just humiliation ritual for losing the war

>>212763828
You guys are really exagerating how good northern europeans look. Many women here have horse faces and many guys look like they enjoy watching their partners get fucked by black guys so to say. There are good and bad looking people in every race.

>>212764079
Nah it's just this guy. Got the pajeet syndrome

>>212764079
we could never compete with BWC, on top of being so perfect you guys are also so humble...

>>212764079
>You guys are really exagerating how good northern europeans look. Many women here have horse faces and many guys look like they enjoy watching their partners get fucked by black guys so to say.
Still mogs most people here and you know that, don't try to be humble. It's not an exaggeration or even unique to us, Nordics are seen as one of the most desired races everywhere.
>There are good and bad looking people in every race.
Yeah and some have more ugly people than others. The hierarchy is real. Does the average brown man get as many likes as the average white man on Tinder? Why do you think that is?
>>212764134
More like reality based on what everyone finds more attractive.

>>212764504
Perhaps but the women also stand out, and the pretty models get a lot of attention and strobe lights from big clothing brands and so forth like magazines. A very underrated thing is our free teethcare until we are 25, almost everyone has good teeth and those who do not usually fix it in their teens, it adds a tremendous ammount to the overall look of the population

>>212762726
More Kemalist nonsense. Pathological liars you scum are

>>212760370
>everyone here has a victim complex
> young turks all hate erdogan and islam
you can't see how these things are connected, how any little issue in your country is automatically reflexively blamed on Islam by zoomers because they're too anxious, resentful, paranoid and self-pitying to come up with an actual political program that could address the notorious corruption of your country which far precedes erdogan and the AKP?

>>212761063
this

>>212766274
Nah to be fair what islam is to most people is just going to mosque on fridays and fasting on ramadan and do whatever they want the other days and saying "elhamdülillah müslümanım" when asked. Not deism but not kemalism either

>>212763245
turks are literally obssesed with arabs. they curse you guys all the time because erdogan is islamist or something.

>>212766517
That goes for most Muslims in the world though really

>>212766608
Well, isn't he an islamist? And didn't he just say Turk Kurd Arab are muslim brothers just the day before?

>>212757930 (OP)
I don't like muslims.
Muslims have significant influence on russian government.
The most sad thing. Russian people are weak to destroy this shit.

>>212766802
turkish populist islamism have nothing to do with gulf arabs. turks unironically think central asian nomads had better civ than arabs.

>>212767179
Honestly, the central Asian countries are probably more enjoyable to live in than Egypt or Iraq or Lebanon.

>>212757930 (OP)
well they brown and ugly, and short, so angry/muslim all the time and loud

>>212757930 (OP)
They're really nice people but as a state they're aggressive opportunistic bullies and a bad neighbor.