Thread 212809251

Your thoughts on this...

@grok is this real

>>212809251 (OP)
Lmao out of those only the Ottomans were a superpower. Mughals and Persia were merely regional powers and I don't even know the literal whos he mentioned last.

>>212809323
The Sherifian dynasty of Morocco controlled modern day Morocco, Western Sahara, and Mauritania

delusional rats
i'm glad israel are genociding this creatures out of existence

>>212809251 (OP)
Come on now

the ummah will rise again o algo

>>212809251 (OP)
Ottomans, sure. But the rest? Get the fuck outta here nigga.

>>212809514
Settle down, Rajesh. It's not healthy to get this worked up over Xitter ragebait.

>>212810379
>1990 was 300 years ago

>>212809251 (OP)
It's the truth. Colonialism is revisionist propaganda, wipipo dindu nuffin we wuz oppressed and sheit, give reparations muzzers

>>212810768
hahah, nah that was just some 40 years ago

>>212810768
The years are at the top of the columns lad. It’s sorted by the 1700’s.

>>212810847
well maybe i should read what's written in front of me. maybe i shouldn't, who's to say?

>>212809251 (OP)
well, how did they fucked up so badly then?

>>212809251 (OP)
wrong, as usual

>one successful empire and 3 literal whos no one cares about
why are they like this

>>212809251 (OP)
Add me to the list sirs

They were definitely very wealthy and locally powerful but they didn't project it much globally, besides the Ottomans.
In terms of GDP Indonesia and Turkey are close to tied at #16 globally. Thats not so bad, why don't you guys try harder and retake your #1 spot?

>>212810929
Mughals were a pretty big deal too
They made the Taj Mahal

>>212809251 (OP)
the ummah.......... is strong?!

>>212809323
Everyone was a regional power back then retard
There were no superpowers back then

Mughals were as powerful as the ottomans

i dislike how on the internet you can say the most retarded bullshit within your echochamber and will still get traction
you literally risk nothing by lying online

>>212809251 (OP)
Yet Allah allowed all four to collapse and their countries to be diminished as Christian empires ruled.

>>212810379
>GDP in a fucking feudal society
Whatever did this is a retard

>>212811806
>Christian empires ruled.
Barely even christian desu

>>212811802
1700 was 300 years ago dipshit, england and spain were beyond superpowers, they were fucking global empires. that supersedes the modern notion of superpowers.

>>212809367
>The Sherifian dynasty of Morocco controlled modern day Morocco, Western Sahara, and Mauritania
300 years ago Spain controlled 60 percent of the Western Hemisphere.

>>212810379
at what point do rounding errors and estimates destroy the validity of data like this
no one was collecting this data in 1000 AD, I can absolutely guarantee it.

>>212809367
The United States in its infancy kicked their shit in.

>>212811802
Post vishnu altar with timestamp

>>212811883
mughals were muslims indians are ashamed of them

we wuzzing of any kind is so pathetic. nigga what have you done for me lately?

Morocco were nobodies and all three of the other powers were in terminal decline by 1725. The Safavid dynasty collapsed less than a decade later, the Mughals were torn to pieces by rival kingdoms and became a British puppet rump state until they were finally deposed in 1857, and the Ottomans spent the remainder of their existence getting by because their final death would rock the boat of European power dynamics so much that nobody but Russia wanted them to finally die simply for fear of the vacuum they'd leave.

>>212811850
Always the most ignorant man giving his opinions

>>212812021
sorry your third world brazillian monkey education failed you but you are a retard unfortunately

>>212809251 (OP)
I'm guessing by the Safavids they mean Nader Shah? I don't recognise the Moroccan one.

Idk what the screenshot is on about, out of all Moroccan empires the Alaouite dynasty is one of the weakest (they still rule to this day), and you should call them that, because many other dynasties claim to be Sherifian (descent from mohamed through his daughter, somehow, all of em larping berbers in reality).

>>212812015
The Moroccans killed a Portuguese king which led to Portugal being under Spanish rule for like 80 years. They also led successful campaigns against Iberian strongholds and forts along the Moroccan coast retaking most of their lands. Beating prime Spain and Portugal should qualify you to superpower status.

>>212809251 (OP)
>Ottomans
>Mughals
Sure, definitely great powers of their time
>Safavids
Didn't really have authority outside of Iran, reaching here.
>Literally who in Morocco
Just put Spain or the Dutch in this and be more realistic. Pathetic cope on this one.

>>212812713
The weakest Moroccan dynasties are the wattasids and the zenata kingdoms that served as proxies for the Umayyads against the Fatimids.

>>212810661
>>212809323
>>212810929
>>212811728
the mughals had 25% of the world's population living in it you retards

>>212813493
Safavid had control of half of iraq, parts of anatolia, the caucasus, half of afghistan, pakistan


>>212813493
>>212812713
>>212812015
the Saadian empire was fucking massive, the size of europe at its peak, and had a total control of the gold and slave trade

>>212813622
wtf i convert now

>>212813453
spain had bigger shit to deal with, ever since, 90% of their military efforts went against france and the dutch republic

>>212814225
>ever since,
meant to say ever since the hasburgs took power, 90% of their military efforts went against france and the dutch republic

>>212814225
some ottoman spanish battles :
1st Mediterranean (1515–1585)
1st Algeria (1516)2nd Algeria (1518)3rd Algeria (1519)1st Tunisia (1520)4th Algeria (1529)Battle of Formentera (1529)Modon (1531)5th Algeria (1531)Coron (1533)2nd Tunisia (1534)1st Balearic (1535)6th Algeria (1535)3rd Tunisia (1535)Italian War of 1536–1538 Apulia (1537)Ottoman–Venetian War (1537–1540) 1st Sousse (1537)Preveza (1538)Castelnuovo (1539)Sardinia (1540)Alborán (1540)7th Algeria (1541)Italian War of 1542–1546 Nice (1543)1st Sicily (1544)Naples (1544)8th Algeria (1543)9th Algeria (1543)10th Algeria (1547)Valencia (1550)4th Tunisia (1550)1st Gozo (1551)11th Algeria (1551)Italian War of 1551–1559 1st Libya (1551)Battle of Ponza (1552)2nd Libya (1552)2nd Balearic [fr] (1553)Corsica (1553)2nd Naples (1554)3rd Balearic (1558)1st Morocco [fr] (1554)12th Algeria (1555)13th Algeria (1556)14th Algeria (1558)4th Balearic (1558)15th Algeria (1559)5th Tunisia (1560)2nd Sicily (1561)2nd Morocco (1563)16th Algeria (1563)Granada (1563)3rd Morocco (1564)Malta (1565)Anti-Ottoman revolts of 1565–1572 Albanian revolt of 1566–157117th Algeria (1567)Rebellion of the Alpujarras (1568–1571)6h Tunisia (1569)Ottoman–Venetian War (1570–1573) 2nd Gozo (1570)Lepanto (1571)Navarino (1572)7th Tunisia (1573)3rd Naples (1573)8th Tunisia (1574)18th Algeria (1575)Battle of Alcácer Quibir (1578)Lanzarote (1586)Longina (1595)
2nd Mediterranean (1603–1625)
Spanish-Barbary conflicts (1600s–1620s)Anglo-Turkish piracyMers-el-Fahm (1603)Monastir (1603)Hammamet (1605)Paphos (1609)1st La Goulette (1609)Kerkennah Islands (1611)Epirus revolt of 16112nd La Goulette (1612)Cape Corvo (1613)Messina (1613)Malta (1614)3rd La Goulette (1615)Cape Gelidonya (1616)Constantinople (1616)1st Cape Palos (1617)4th La Goulette (1617)2nd Sousse (1619)Chios (1621)Palermo (1624)Gulf of Tunis (1624)Dalmatia (1624)San Pietro (1624)Syracuse (1625) Barbary unofficial campaigns (1630s–1700s)

>>212814276
Barbary–Portuguese conflictsSpanish-Barbary battlesCeriale and Borghetto (1637)Calpe (1637)2nd Oran and 2nd Mers el-Kébir [fr]Siege of Oran (1707–1708)Action of 28 November 1751Action of 16 April 17552nd Cape Palos
3rd Mediterranean (1714–1792)
Ottoman–Venetian War (1714–1718)Spanish conquest of Oran (1732)Spanish–Algerian War (1775–1785)Siege of Oran (1790–1792)
Central Europe and Balkans
Hungarian Campaign Siege of Buda (1530)Siege of KőszegSiege of PestBattle of Szeged (1552)Siege of Temesvár (1552)Battle of PalástCroatian CampaignSiege of Vienna (1529)Long Turkish War Himara Revolt of 1596Thessaly rebellion (1600)Bocskai uprisingThirty Years War Bohemian RevoltGreat Turkish War Siege of Buda (1686)
Oversea Conflicts
Ottoman–Portuguese confrontations Acehnese–Portuguese conflicts Ottoman expeditions to AcehGujarati–Portuguese conflictsIndian Ocean · 1st East Africa Somali–Portuguese conflictsEthiopian–Adal WarWar of the League of the Indies2nd East AfricaBaloch–Portuguese conflictsSpanish–Moro conflict Bruneian CampaignInsulindia Theater

>>212814276
it was a second theatre, all the money and most experienced men like the duke of alba, duke of medina sidonia, Ambrosio Spinola, Duke of Parma, etc. were all dying in the low counties.

>>212814350
because the low counties were like the richest parts of europe in that point

>>212814364
against france:
1st Naples (1494–1498) Battle of Seminara (1495) Battle of Fornovo (1495)

2nd Naples (1499–1504) Battle of Ruvo (1503) Battle of Cerignola (1503) Battle of Garigliano (1503)

League of Cambrai (1508–1516) Battle of Agnadello (1509) Battle of Ravenna (1512) Battle of Novara (1513) Battle of Marignano (1515)

1st Milan Campaign (1515) Battle of Melegnano (1515)

Italian War of 1521–1526 Battle of Bicocca (1522) Siege of Marseille (1524) Battle of Pavia (1525) Capture of Francis I (1525)

League of Cognac (1526–1530) Siege of Naples (1528) Battle of Landriano (1529)

Italian War of 1536–1538 Siege of Turin (1537) Apulia Campaign (1537)

Italian War of 1542–1546 Battle of Ceresole (1544) Siege of Boulogne (1544) Naval Raids on Nice (1543) Corsican Skirmishes (1543–1544)
Italian War of 1551–1559 Battle of Saint-Quentin (1557) Battle of Gravelines (1558) Siege of Thionville (1558) Treaty of Cateau-Cambrésis (1559)

Franco-Spanish War (1595–1598) Battle of Fontaine-Française (1595) Siege of Amiens (1597) Peace of Vervins (1598)

Franco-Spanish War (1635–1659) Battle of Les Avins (1635) Siege of Arras (1640) Siege of Fuenterrabía (1638) Battle of Honnecourt (1642) Battle of Rocroi (1643) Battle of Freiburg (1644) Battle of Nördlingen (1645) Battle of Lens (1648) Battle of Valenciennes (1656) Battle of the Dunes (1658) Siege of Dunkirk (1658) Treaty of the Pyrenees (1659)

War of Devolution (1667–1668) Siege of Lille (1667) Siege of Tournai (1667) Siege of Dole (1668)

Franco-Dutch War (Spain joins in 1673) Battle of Seneffe (1674) Siege of Valenciennes (1677) Siege of Cambrai (1677) Battle of Cassel (1677)

War of the Reunions (1683–1684) Siege of Luxembourg (1684)
Nine Years’ War (1688–1697) Battle of Fleurus (1690) Battle of Leuze (1691) Battle of Steenkerque (1692) Battle of Landen (1693) Siege of Barcelona (1697) Treaty of Ryswick (1697)

>>212814701
against the netherlands:
Battle of Heiligerlee (1568) Battle of Jemmingen (1568) Battle of Daalham (1568) Battle of Dalheim (1568) Battle of Mookerheyde (1574) Capture of Brielle (1572) Siege of Middelburg (1572–1574) Siege of Haarlem (1572–1573) Massacre of Naarden (1572) Siege of Alkmaar (1573) Battle of Delft (1573) Siege of Leiden (1573–1574) Relief of Leiden (October 1574) Battle of Reimerswaal (1574) Siege of Zierikzee (1575–1576) Spanish Fury at Antwerp (1576) Pacification of Ghent (1576) Union of Utrecht (1579) Battle of Borgerhout (1579) Siege of Maastricht (1579) Battle of Noordhorn (1581) Battle of Kollum (1581) Battle of Zutphen (1586) Siege of Grave (1586) Siege of Bergen op Zoom (1588) Battle of Geertruidenberg (1588) Battle of the Sound (1588) Battle of Nieuwpoort (1600) Battle of Sluis (1600) Siege of Ostend (1601–1604) Battle of Gibraltar (1607) Battle of Cape St. Vincent (1606) Battle of the Downs (1639) Siege of Groenlo (1595, 1606, 1627) Siege of 's-Hertogenbosch (1629) Siege of Breda (1590, 1624–1625) Siege of Hulst (1591, 1645) Siege of Nijmegen (1591) Siege of Zutphen (1591) Siege of Deventer (1591) Siege of Delfzijl (1591) Siege of Groningen (1594) Siege of Venlo (1597) Siege of Lingen (1597) Siege of Rheinberg (1597) Siege of Meurs (1597) Siege of Grol (1597) Siege of Bredevoort (1597) Siege of Enschede (1597) Siege of Oldenzaal (1597) Siege of Ootmarsum (1597) Siege of Coevorden (1592, 1593) Siege of Sluis (1604) Siege of Gennep (1641) Siege of Sas van Gent (1644) Siege of Hulst (1645)

>>212814728
Siege of Antwerp (failed, multiple attempts) Naval blockade of Dunkirk (ongoing) Capture of Recife (Brazil, 1630) Battle of Pernambuco (1631) Battle of Elmina (Ghana, 1637) Battle of Luanda (Angola, 1641) Battle of Macau (1622) Battle of Formosa (1624) Battle of Malacca (1641) Battle of Ambon (1623) Battle of Jakarta (1619) Battle of the Zuiderzee (1573) Battle of the Scheldt (multiple) Battle of the North Sea (various) Battle of the English Channel (1588) (Spanish Armada) Battle of Dover Strait (1602) Battle of Sluis (1603) Battle of Cape Roca (1604) Battle of Cape St. Vincent (1606) Battle of Cape Trafalgar (prelude actions) Battle of the Downs (1639) Battle of Callantsoog (1799)

You should know this if you were actually french instead of a low iq nafroid bragging about shit that never happened