Thread 212813685

I can already feel the blood of Magellan pumping through my veins, my entitlement to ruling over half the globe as is my birthright.

cringe larp but have fun

>>212813730
I can sense our shared lineage, our kinship, and I already feel myself speaking Portuguese intuitively. You and I, we were meant to rule the vast and abundant seas, mi amor.

>>212813685 (OP)
Enjoy the negro moor blood

>>212813771
*meu amor

>>212813685 (OP)
that makes you 1/32 Portuguese. i bet any day now they will be calling you, begging for you to rule the waves

>>212813796
I will be sitting by the phone, as it will sit by me. For it is a mobile phone.

>>212813685 (OP)
>>212813771
sorry for bursting your bubble pal but portugal only actually had a few forts here and there in the east indies, save Goa, which the dutch completely robbed us of like taking candy from a baby, and in brazil we held the coast only pretty much, the rest of the country came much later by merit of full fledged brazilians. sure, we pioneered the maritime route to the east indies around south africa, and we did spread some minor influence throughout asia, but the spaniards did way more actual ruling than us. we were glorified pirates at the end of the day.

>>212813796
1/64 actually. You have 8 great grandparents

>>212813903
thank you for correcting

>>212813900
>we were glorified pirates at the end of the day

>>212813900
>we were glorified pirates at the end of the day.
you're either a self-hating faggot or a brazilian larping

>>212813936
it's true. you have to look at it critically. what they teach you in school is incredibly sanitized. for fuck's sake it's not even a new take, criticism of our methods goes all the way back to the 16th century

>>212813966
>it's not even a new take
it's a retarded take.

>>212814005
It's not. Go read up on our methods of exerting influence at sea, and compare them to those of actual pirates. The difference is we weren't doing it on a whim and actually had some semblance of strategy (not always), everything else is indistinguishable. You can sugarcoat it if you want, but I won't let my thai friend be misled by the likes of you. There are plenty of other things to be proud about in our history.

>>212814047
it is. I'm not gonna argue with you.

>There are plenty of other things to be proud about in our history.
there are, including hauling NIGGERS by the boat-load (literally) across the atlantic on a cosmological scale for the sake of profit.

>>212814090
>I'm not gonna argue with you.
I know you won't. You have been brainwashed. You believe in a false dichotomy, whereby if I'm critical of this, I must be pro that. Your worldview is miniscule and laughable. I don't know how to put it any more bluntly.

My grandfather is Dominican and my Aunt on my dad's side is Puerto Rican, but even I don't do cringe posts like this.

>>212813900
>we were glorified pirates at the end of the day
i've never felt so proud of my portuguese heritage
too bad you guys adopted the cucktholic aesthetics instead of the skull and crossbones one

>>212814090
>>212814129
I can see I've returned a prodigal son to a house divided.

It apparently falls upon me to reunite our once great maritime empire and bring it back to glory.

>>212814309
Its former glory is a handful of forts and psychopaths on boats. It's not worth the trouble.

>>212814334
I understand now this is my mission: to reunite our lost, scattered people... and revitalize it in totality.

I shall anoint you as first among my fleet admirals.

>>212813685 (OP)
My grandfather is Spanish Moortuguese mutt as well.
>>212813900
What are you talking about? The Portuguese definitely had influence in the india ocean. The Portuguese defeated the ottoman fleet which gave the Portuguese control of the Indian ocean for decades. The Portuguese established diplomatic bases in Iran, Omen and India while also helping the Ethiopians with their war. For such a small country they actually did a lot. Read up on your country's history.

>>212814408
You are utterly insolent. I didn't say we didn't have any influence, but it's very overblown. The Indian Ocean was at a time ruled by portuguese sails because we were european pioneers in getting there, and our naval technology was superior to that of those parts. Once other europeans caught wind of what we were doing, our influence diminished considerably and never really recovered from it. And save for Goa and maybe Diu, we only had mere forts here and there, the backbones of our pirating ways. We preyed on the helpless, and avoided peers. Extortion, pillaging and barbary were the name of the game. The Spanish were much nobler and administration-minded.

>>212813685 (OP)
based fellow colonial chad of EVROPEAN descent

>>212814567
Every European country preyed on the helpless, what are you talking about? Portuguese were explorers, they were to first to chart Africa, the first to reach asia and make contact with them, established diplomacy with countless amount of countries before the other euros could and even fought against countries large than them. Yeah Portugal's colonial ambitions weren't as big as the other European powers, but for being such a small country with a small population it did a lot so stop trying to diminish the country's accomplishments.

>1,56% Portuguese
Not even one of your nails could be Portuguese

>>212814688
Your ignorance betrays you, you're not addressing a fellow american. Said "diplomacy" was often leaving able-bodied men of the conquered coasts hand and earless. Those accomplishments you've mentioned were of note, but they left a rather small footprint in history, apart from cartography (greatly improved upon by others). The biggest contribution I can think of is the romanization of the vietnamese language, and even then it was a jesuit, which I consider to be their own thing, separate from Portuguese ambitions.
>Every European country preyed on the helpless, what are you talking about?
I specifically said nobl-er referring to the Spanish. They also committed atrocities, but not as many, and as spread out as us. Are you aware that for a time our name and flag in the region were synonyms for the vilest of beings? How is that for diplomacy?
Note that the tone of the OP is what we're addressing. But in any case, it's not a history to be paraded around mindlessly, like you're doing. You wear it like an accessory, stop it.

>>212814812
Ah my Portu brother! Long have we been separated. Too long!

>>212814860
>Your ignorance betrays you, you're not addressing a fellow american
get a load of this faggot.
no one cares about your whinging boomer.

>>212814812
>>212814878
I consider even the purest of indios, from the deepest, most remote and uncontacted depths of the brazilian amazon forest, more portuguese than any southeast asian. It's just how it is.
>>212814902
Eat my shit, Manoel.

>>212814971
It is good to finally be home... father.

>>212814971
>Manoel.
ah so you are a brazilian. I knew it kek.

>>212815054
So he was merely a cousin of our legacy. That's fine too. All are welcomed in the newly restored House of Port

>>212814860
There's no point even arguing with you. I could list out everything the Portuguese have accomplished and you'll trivialize it by saying "it's a le small footnote in history" which is just being disingenuous. I agree that the Portuguese did commit atrocities, but exaggerating it in what seems to be an attempt to eclipse the atrocities the other European powers committed especially the Spanish is you once again being disingenuous. im honestly convinced that you're not even Portuguese, you write like you have some form grudge against the country.

>>212815054
I was correct.

>>212815096
Probably because he's a nigger therefore not Portuguese or European, so who gives a fuck about what chimpanzee that says???

>>212815096
Your ignorance is palpable. The Spanish at least upheld some honor, the portuguese on the contrary were much more barbaric, you should go count the recorded incidents on local populations along the coasts of the indian ocean, and read up on accounts of them. The Spanish at least drew blood when it was necessary for them to uphold their order, we just did it for the kicks.
I didn't trivialize anything, and you yourself argued our feats were disproportional to our size, so we're not arguing in absolute terms in which the portuguese are absolutely a footnote, objectively speaking. We never "ruled over half of the globe", we were bullied by european peers and we were underhanded in almost every aspect of power exertion.