Thread 212862429

Whenever you tell a normie that Japan is a much better place than Europe, they always reply with something like:
>umm actually Japan is le heckin' dystopia with high suicide rates, no babies being born, kids studying 20 hours a day, salarymen dropping dead at their desks, etc

But none of that is really true.

Japanese suicide rates are comparable to Europe
Japanese TFR is similar to Spain, Italy, Greece, Poland..
Japanese kids study 9 to 4, and they get to relax in clubs after school. Personally, I remember doing 8 to 6 plus homework.
Japanese workers do stay late, but unless there's a deadline, most of that time is just sitting around. And nowadays, even this appearance culture is disappearing.

So where do these stereotypes come from?

I realized that most of these stereotypes don’t come from Japan at all. They come from Korea.

High suicide rates? Korea
Lowest fertility in the world? Korea
Obsession with academics? 20 hours studying? Korea
Toxic work culture? Korea

Japan ends up getting blamed for issues that actually come from Korea, just because they’re both East Asian countries.

>>212862429 (OP)

>High suicide rates? Korea
Boomers are tanking the stats. Considering zoomers except for boomers, the rates is not that extreme
>Lowest fertility in the world? Korea
That's a good thing. AI and automation is coming.
>Obsession with academics? 20 hours studying? Korea
Only for some part of Gangnam, Mockdong (Seoul), Suseong gu, (Daegu). The average students are just playing game. And the obsession with academics has peaked a decade ago. It's getting simmer down.
>Toxic work culture? Korea
It's getting better. I worked for a company as a developer. I worked 4 days and a half in a week with hybrid office rules. And zoomers don't give a shit about the working culture.

>>212862429 (OP)
Can confirm this

>>212862429 (OP)
The three-way rivalry between Japan, Korea and China is just a diversion for gaijin so they don't realize that it is literally impossible to suffer in those countries

That's because Japan's been glazed to the point that the notion of it having imperfections is tantamount to blasphemy.

>>212862429 (OP)
vpn off takeshivan

>>212862429 (OP)
do they? i've seen a lot of yuro flags whining that korea is better to live in than europe, at least online, even on this weeb site. i thought european normgroids were also into the doomer mentality that europe is a grim place.

the people who keep saying that europe is better than japan are genuinely some of the most brainwashed and illiterate people that i've ever seen
to think that a place that's getting worse each month with rapes, ghettoes, stabbings, grenade attacks, gang warfare and a generally downward spiral into developing nation status is somehow better than a place where poor areas in the socioeconomic sense do not meaningfully exist is one of the greatest copes that the human mind can possibly conceive

>>212862429 (OP)
True. It's not even a stereotype, it's just random negative things they've heard at some point. They are ignorant and racist. And arrogant thinking they are just better.

>>212862429 (OP)
>Whenever you tell a normie that Japan is a much better place than Europe
how often do you have this conversation...

I discussed with ChatGPT about Samsung/TSMC yield rate. The boy is hella smart. lol

>>212862429 (OP)
>So where do these stereotypes come from?
Youtubers get a lot of views for pushing anti-Japanese sentiment. Also r*ddit hates Japan for having a moderately conservative society

>>212862429 (OP)
>>high suicide rates, no babies being born, kids studying 20 hours a day, salarymen dropping dead at their desks
None of that matters in this context, but what does matter is that you can't get a job there and that Japanese will forever consider you a tourist (and that Japanese girls are ugly)

>>212870291
>and that Japanese girls are ugly
lol

>>212862429 (OP)
Have you lived in Japan?
I have.
It's not perfect.

>>212872290
Nowhere is perfect, Japan is still the best country objectively however

>>212873092
No Slovenia, Norway, Estonia, Poland could be candidates innit

>>212862429 (OP)
Japan's population is circling the drain faster than ever expected. Korea has been reversing theirs for over a year now.

>>212862429 (OP)
Also they are quickly adopting to a 4 day work week.

Your Korean stereotypes are even more wrong than the Japanese ones you claim are incorrect, Takashi.

>>212875988
>>212876029
VPN off, Kim.

>>212862429 (OP)
>Japanese workers do stay late, but unless there's a deadline, most of that time is just sitting around
do they hate their own family so much they'd rather stay at work?
if not, that's still bad

>>212868197
Now show Japan's leading edge fab!

>>212876157
seethe more takashi.

>>212862429 (OP)
Japan's decline is far faster than they expected and they are going to pass the decade mark of collapsing births.

>>212876210
Its bad. The Japanese shills here run damage control like this thread to deflect their horrible reality at home onto others.

There has been wage stagnation for decades in japan, cost of living is rising too fast (they can't even afford freaking rice anymore), and their economy is tanking with each passing year making it even more impossible for their banks and government to fix the issues.

The saying that "Japan has been living in the year 2000 since 1980" exists for a reason. They are a failed country now and its hurting their people.

>>212876210
>>212876388
You will even see Japanese people just lose their shit over it and post rants about the miserable existence in Japan online. Picrel was so salient that it went viral globally.

>>212862429 (OP)
every year the government news agency is doing a news report on the declining birth rate of japan for some reason

>>212876388
>>212876499
There are only sad days ahead for Japan...

>>212862429 (OP)
So buddy, how do you explain Japan's growing misery? How are you going to punt that over onto Korea?

>>212862429 (OP)
Japanese students are basically dropping out of society at this point.

They are already behind in tech to their neighbors and they are only making things worse for themselves.

Why are more and more Japanese no longer interested in education? Whats going to happen to Japan in the long run?

>>212862429 (OP)
In Korea, the number 1 demographic who commits suicide are the elderly who grew up poor from the impacts of living during and after the impacts of two wars.

Meanwhile, in Japan, the youth are killing themselves at record levels. When you look at the miserable prospects for their future it makes sense. They have NOTHING to look forward to since their economy is dead and there is nothing the government can do to fix it.

How will this impact Japan's society in the long run?

>>212862429 (OP)
>Toxic work culture? Korea
LOL, meanwhile in Japan (picrel)


Where are all of the Japanese vpn nationalists shills? Why so silent all of a sudden?

Really makes you think...

Come on. Lets talk about it. Why is it so miserable to be an employee in Japan?

>>212863923
Vietnam is more affordable and more traditional than any of those jewish shitholes

>>212877100
>>212877723
>>212877883
>>212878969
You are Korean
Are you proud of your origin?

>>212879080
Are you?

But stay on topic. How is it that Japan has the horrible work environment killing its workers but these VPN Japanese shills (like guy up above) don't admit that Japan is the worst place to work?

Why don't we discuss this aspect of Japan's culture here? I'd love to have peoples insights, especially from our Japanese friends.

>>212879123
I'm Korean and I don't care about that
Are you proud of your Korean origin?

>>212879123
But for reals, can any Japanese chime in? I'm fascinated by the contrast in Japanese life portrayed in their media and stated by so many Japanese people then compare and contrast with the real data coming out of Japan.

What are we missing? What is the reason why this disparity exists?

>>212879153
Yeah, okay. I'm not Korean buddy. :-) Stay on topic please.

>>212879191
Because they are not perfect as they think

Sorry I don't believe it, I love Nippon but they clearly have their own very deep dysfunctions in society, working to death is not a meme and very much true and they're the most escapist culture on earth, that's why you get so much bizzare anime shite