Thread 212878869

it was so beautiful, brehs...

muslim wakanda

>>212878869 (OP)
This will be my first EU5 campaign

What century was this?

>>212878889
"Muslim wakanda" existed for longer than your country

>>212878930
8th through 15th

>>212878954
you look like this

>>212878869 (OP)
it was until it wasn't
al-andalus and the abbasid caliphate (pre-mongol invasion) were both ahead of their times but retarded fundamentalists didn't like that they were "straying too much from the word of god" and kept calling for revolutions until they got their wishes. the ottoman empire tried to modernize this shit but it was too late by that time.

>>212879041
The Spanish made Mexico bad insult

>>212878984
>15th
are you stupid or trolling

>>212879258
I'm unbiased

>>212878869 (OP)
they got overrun by religious fanatics, there was nothing they could do

>>212878869 (OP)
go back

>>212878954
Only granada.

>>212879288
gee-wiz muh garnatah

>>212879426
Cope.

Iberians are such retards for not claiming this as their history. You allow groups like pakis who have nothing to do with it claim it as their own history under the guise of Islam. If I was an Iberian I’d claim all civilization in my area as my own. Fuck everyone else

>>212879479
They'd rather be seen as the lowly servants of germanic rulers and roman slaves. Nordicist retardation did a number on iberix

>>212879479
we do claim it as our history, and with that i mean the Kingdom of Asturias kicking out the Arabs

>>212879479
>I’d claim all civilization in my area as my own
because you're a new worlder
shalom

>>212879526
Yeah I don't get the wewuzzing either, the visigoths were illiterate barbarians, we know very little about their rule except from fragmentary external accounts from byzantine and arab sources; and they also lost Spain to the muslims

>>212879579
TRVKE

>>212880066
>and they also lost Spain to the muslims
but muh jews or something. bunch of fucking retards poisoning history with modern sensibilities, laundering it just like they accuse others of doing.

>>212879526
>>212880066
Visigoth’s left ZERO genetic impact on Iberians btw, that’s how much of a minority they were. They were most likely killed off by local Iberians the second the Arabs invaded

>>212880126
>iberianx people hated their white rulers so much they turned on them the moment fellow swarthoids invaded despite following an antagonistic religion
this tells you all you need to know about germanix

>Qurtuba, not Cordoba
>Tulaytulah, not Toledo
>Al-Lixbuna, not Lisbon
>Batalyaws, not Badajoz
>Isbiliya, not Sevilla
>Balansiya, not Valencia
>Saraqusta, not Zaragoza
>Barshaluna, not Barcelona
>Jabal Tariq, not Gibraltar

>>212880181
>Al-Gharb

>>212880171
Arab niggas were shocked by how inefficient Visigoths were. For example they were taxing subjects and not protecting or building roads. The Arabs got there and started building based on old Roman structures and roads. It’s actually insane how modern day Iberians love Germanics so much when they were abused by them, at least the first 3 centuries of Arab/Moor rule were productive and even improved the strength of Iberia. Once the “reconquest” happened, everything was already built so it was easy for the Iberians to become a powerhouse.

>>212881287
>It’s actually insane how modern day Iberians love Germanics so much
excuse me? you on some weird shit cuh

>>212881333
I’m not talking about an enlighten Iberian like you, I’m talking about the freaks who are social media who larp as some Germanics and call everyone a Gypsy

what was mexico doing before the reconquista? I don't remember learning about medieval mexico in highschool

>>212883064
Pathetic churka

>>212883064
based

>>212883064
based image

>>212883064
Vghh

>>212883064
The Arabs fucked the Visigoths so hard that for a certain period of time Sultans were blonde or red-haired, kek.

>>212883304
>tf
>tp

>>212883371
Only Sicily, Calabria and Apulia, the last two for hardly 30 years and Sicily for a 100 something years. The Normans had a bigger genetic impact on us than the Arabs.

>>212878869 (OP)
It was a wonderful society. Post-Muslim Spain was also wonderful. Today it’s still pretty wonderful. Spain is just the most consistently good country in history probably.

>>212883389
>Sicily for a 100 something years
831–1091

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Sicily

>>212883431
1091? But that's when the Normans kicked the Muzzies out of Italy

>>212883444
I mean, already in 1050/1060 the Normans had a huge control on Sicily. And i'm pretty sure that they kicked them out before that

>>212883462
>already in 1050/1060 the Normans had a huge control on Sicily
no, in 1060 not a single normans was in sicily, it was 100% muslim in 1060
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_0uTYokNQw

>The Arabs remained in control of Sicily until the Norman conquest of the island, which was also a prolonged affair, lasting from the first invasion in 1061 to the surrender of Noto in 1091
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_of_Sicily#Aftermath

>>212883064
>tf
>tp