You don’t even have to get married to get divorce raped in this country. Half a year of cohabitation is enough. Happens in iyc?

Why do you care, not like an /int/ user will get married

>>212887948
Because that’s a major reason I don’t want to get married or even be in a civil union?

No.

>>212887958
Find someone worthy of marrying and cohabitate with her

>>212887958
I think you're just ugly

>>212887976
The risk ain’t worth it.
>>212887978
Cope and show tits.

>>212887988
Sorry I had them removed yesterday

>>212887933 (OP)
Incelbros....we won

>>212887988
You don't have to start living with someone when you start dating. In fact, I think if a woman insists on living with you as soon as you start then it's a red flag and you should bail. I dated my gf for 4 years before we got married and only then we moved in together

I only want have fun with a woman who only wants to shaboink with me and perhaps play a bit of vidya together.

But society say, "NO TAKESHI, YOU MUST MALLY AND PRODUCE 2.5 CHIRRDLEN TO MAKE BENEFIT GREAT ANCESTRAL LAND OF NIPPON"

>>212887933 (OP)
yes common law marriage is lame and I live in a giga blue state where the courts worship women so being in a relationship is like being under the blade of damocles

>>212888020
I know. But I don’t want to ever live with a woman, period. This retarded country unironically makes it so that short-term relationships and hook ups are a better option than anything long term. Prenups are basically toilet paper here because you’re fucked even before you get a ring on her.

>>212887933 (OP)
No, I don't think so, but that shit is so crazy. It's the same in Canada, I know. I can't believe what mega gynocracies so many countries have become in such a short time. It's some of the best evidence against getting married though. They wouldn't ever force you into it without your consent if it was to your benefit.

>>212888054
>But I don’t want to ever live with a woman, period
Live with a man then. You live in Germany, they do stuff like that there. On a more serious note, when you find the one you're willing to tolerate as much as she does to you, then you'll see that there's nothing quite like that. Hookups are soulless and can't replicate the feeling you get when you come back home from work and someone is there for you. Just find someone whom you'll want to be around despite their shortcomings and who reciprocates the feeling. Have a kid together and you'll feel happier than any other man alive.

>>212888054
You might simply be gay

>>212888187
>when you find the one you're willing to tolerate as much as she does to you, then you'll see that there's nothing quite like that
And then past forward 5 years and half my assets are gone because she got an ick. Miss me with that gay shit.

>>212887933 (OP)
Never forget that you should never pay a single penny for foids too, anyways you'll never get true love from them unless you've won the genetic lottery, no matter how rich you are.

>>212888013
Better truecel than cuck.

>>212888213
That's why you date her without moving in together. To find out if she's the one. Also a pro tip: if you're moving in with a girlfriend and you're afraid she'll take your apartment or a car - buy it for one of your parents, as she has no claim to your parents property

>>212888208
Dude shut the fuck up. Getting domesticated lowers your T, it's so well documented. You can't talk shit when you're the bitch here.

Stop coping and find a good, kind hearted woman. No, they're not in vast supply, but they still exist.
Remember that your choices in youth echo for the rest of your life

>>212888247
I don't mean any offense here cause you seem nice, but I think you're just not intelligent enough to engage with the topic on the level of whether the legal institution of marriage is beneficial to a man, and therefore you can't engage with the OPs opposition to it.

>>212888305
>the legal institution of marriage is beneficial to a man
The institution isn't very favorable towards men even here. But men need family just as much as women do. I tell him to try despite the odds because it's worth it

>>212888251
I go to the gym 4 days a week, you barely leave your bedroom and can't look the cute Lidl cashier into her eyes

>>212888336
>But men need family just as much as women do
Foid propaganda.

>>212888386
Being a bachelor may be fun sometimes, but nothing beats holding your son in your hands as he smiles for the first time. And I'll die on that hill

>>212888273
>good, kind hearted woman
low key based making gullible sex havers fall for this

>>212888426
Holding your son in your hands is nice, but it’s not worth your assets and that very son being gone because some bitch is on her period. You literally can’t get my point. Make marriage actually viable for men and none of this would be a problem. Make it into a trap for gullible retards like you and suddenly nobody wants to be in relationships anymore. Women always make these retarded short-sighted policies to “protect themselves” but end up harming everyone.

>>212888360
Nice story but you're the advocate of being a slave to a bitch and the government and I'm not. When's the last time you broke up with a woman? I'm going to get never.

>>212888360

>>212888479
Just don't have a child or marry or be in a relationship with a stupid woman. The divorce law literally doesn't matter if neither of you want to divorce. Just find someone who isn't "fun", but with whom you can grow old with

>>212888426
>throwing the life away for a quick shot of dopamine

>>212888540
Go read the OP again, you utter retard.

>>212887933 (OP)
In Canada you don't even have to be living with a bitch, she could be living in her own house on the other side of your city and you still have to give her half of your wealth when you split up your relationship.

>>212888360
My gym is full of obvious incels who desperately try to self improve

>>212888543
That's the opposite of what I'm advo for

>>212888336
I don't really have a problem cause for me I can just not get married and then still have a family.

>>212888512
Never, I'm reformed incel and I've been in a relationship for the last 6 years. You should try it (btw she earns more than me so if anything I would get paid if we broke up)

>>212888558
How so?

>>212888584
>reformed incel
>she earns more than me
>I would get paid

>>212888584
>You should try it
Lol good reading comprehension. I ask if you've ever broken up with a woman because I have, and am implying you never have and never will, because like most fellow dumb guys you are a pusy slave.

I love Mads Mikkelsen bros
He's the only film star for me

>>212888584
You must be like 190cm tall and look like a supermodel o algo

>>212888605
The lowest earning partner get the money
>>212888651
>and am implying you never have and never will
>You will never break up with the woman you're perfectly happy with
You got me

>>212888595
Step 1. Stop whoring around with hookups (no more quick dopamine)
Step 2. Start dating a girl with whom you can build a family with and grow old together, BUT don't live together so she can't take half your stuff under German laws.
Step 3. Once you're sure that she's the one - marry her and have a child together
You don't get dopamine hits during all that. It's a long, arduous and stressful process to get used to other person on a level where you don't love them for something, but despite their shortcomings. Then it's very hard to get through pregnancy and first 6 months of infant's life. In the end you get a prolonged sense of happiness and joy that isn't just dopamine. You have people who trust you, who rely on you, who want you to be around even if you're flawed. When you get to that point, there should be no thoughts of divorce, since you chose well - with your head and not with your dick.

>>212888694
I'm 175 cm short and have a bad profile angle

>>212888734
>The lowest earning partner get the money
In Italy? I doubt that. Anyways, that’s not the case IN GERMANY. The bitch gets the money even if she’s a billionaire dating a janitor.

>>212888736
>When you get to that point, there should be no thoughts of divorce

>>212888734
I really gotta go step by step huh. You will never break up with a woman because you're that guy who is always the one getting broken up with. And I'm not even trying to be really mean with that one cause I'm friends with some guys like that, but just know your situation has nothing to do with how straight or manly you are, it's a consequence of being stupid and emotional.

>>212888797
> Most people are retards, think with their genitalia and divorce. More news at 11
Are you equating yourself to literal retards who can't even think of consequences? I think you're smarter than that. DON'T get married willy-nilly. Find a correct woman first

>>212888765
>In Italy? I doubt that
Ask @grok or something
>>212888817
Yes I'm really stupid and emotional because I'm not dumping someone who I like and live well together with

>>212888860
>dude most people are retards, I’m exceptional
No, it’s just that the system is retarded aka woman-coded. Divorce rates in Afghanistan are something like 1%. By your logic, they must all be geniuses there. Or it could be that men are incentivised to marry there and women can’t just fuck over their husbands on a whim.

I don't think divorce rape is even real anymore. Women make more money with their email jobs + no one is getting married. Maybe it was one off boom boom thing.

>>212888888
nice digits

>>212888860
The point is it's a bad deal it doesn't matter if you think you won't get punished, it's still a bad deal.
>>212888888
Nice repeating digits but you're going full "but I did have breakfast this morning" right now.

>>212888894
No, system there is just as awful for men. In sharia law a divorced (talaq) man has to pay a lump sum (mahr) and then support the woman and their children. They have 1% divorce rate because divorce is forbidden in vast majority of cases and retards tho thought with their genitalia have to live together somehow in an unhappy marriage. I'm telling you that you shouldn't give up and try to make happy marriage for yourself

>>212889053
You have presented 0 arguments for why I should dump my current partner or why I should care about your trauma. In the end it's what the Uzbek is telling you, just find a decent girl and build a family. Most of the divorce rapes happens to people marrying gold-diggers, fly in thirdies or were happy to have a stay at home wife until she presented the bill

>>212887933 (OP)
No. Our cohabitation law is based.

>>212888033
go have sex takeshi

>>212889167
Not telling you to break up. Just responding to the "you're gay if you don't get married" argument.

>find a decent girl and build a family
But the germ and I want to do that without being forced into a disadvantageous contract. Make marriage a good deal for me and I'll do it, otherwise I just won't. It's that shrimple.

>>212889311
>"you're gay if you don't get married" argument.
That wasn't my argument. My argument is that if you can't stand women and hate them at a visceral level just accept yourself and come out of the closet

>>212889351
>If you don’t like apples, then you must like oranges.

be real is this even a risk for you guys, do you have long term gfs

>>212889475
Why do you care about apples if you don't even like them?

>>212889554
But I do like them. It’s just that getting apples is a fucking Faustian deal these days apparently. How hard is that to get for you? I’m not playing Russian roulette for a chance at a non-rotten apple.

>>212889585
That your opinion but in my experience there are as much shitty women as shitty men. Also by asking ai (i don't care enough to spend more time) it appears you also split evenly assets and can have prenups in Germany

>>212889762
>there are as much shitty women as shitty men
So? Shitty men don’t concern me, Mr Fruitcake.
>You can have prenups
See >>212888054.

>>212889242
>what is sambo
lmao

>>212889787
So what's the issue if the assets are being split evenly? Just earn less than her and you get stuff if that's what concerns you

>>212888797
>64.8
it's over

>>212889824
>So what's the issue if the assets are being split evenly?
My assets are my assets.
>Just earn less than her
So invigorating to be a gigolo!

>>212890031
I think your issue is that you're simply too individualistic and egocentric. You're not fit for sharing your life with someone else

>>212890146
>dude if you don’t give everything to a foid you’re a fucking egoist
never works the other direction

>>212890164
It does work though. I told you can simply earn as much or less

>>212890200
What next, munch her carpet for pocket money? You’re beyond redemption, my man.

>>212890210
muh money

>>212890210
Again why do you even want someone in your life if you're not willingly to share? I bet you wouldn't even give money for your kids

Romance while young is all that matters not muh assets or money

>>212890343
I want to have kids with them, not leech off of me like a parasite. I'd give everything to my kids because they are my blood. Some random hoe I have no familial relationship to isn't entitled to that.

>>212887933 (OP)
that doesn't happen in my country

>>212890387
Bet you want the stay at home wife but have no problem dumping her on the streets

>>212890547
No, I want a working wife and I have no problem dumping her on the streets because she’s a strong independent woman. But I won’t take a penny from her, because that’s the amoral part.

I want to find love in Uzbekistan, how do

>>212890572
And who's going to grow the kids if both are focused on their careers? One would've to take the hit and work part time or you pay someone else to grow them

>>212890655
>And who's going to grow the kids if both are focused on their careers?
Things like family leave exist and after 5 they're already spending most of their time at a kindergarten. You can also get a nanny if you're affluent enough, you know.

>>212887976
lol lmao

>>212890693
So your solution is to ignore your kids and let someone else bring them up

>>212888551
nightmare fuel

>>212890744
You conveniently ignored the family leave part. And me getting a nanny isn't me "ignoring" kids. I'm literally spending resources on having someone whose entire job is to raise kids take care of them.

>>212890791
The one staying at home won't be able to advance his/her career as much
>I'm literally spending resources on having someone whose entire job is to raise kids take care of them.
Geg, you are the one beyond redemption. Thank god you won't be able to get a family

>>212890955
>The one staying at home won't be able to advance his/her career as much
Her career is literally staying at home. She gets paid to do it. Do you even know what a 'nanny' is in English? It's not nonna.

>>212890986
I know, that part was answering this
>Things like family leave exist
The nanny part is just funny, you claim you would care about your kids yet don't want to spend time growing them because making money is more important. Whatever

>>212891134
So hiring a nanny is the same thing as abandoning your child on the streets while you go smoke weed o algo? What are you even on about?

>>212887933 (OP)
Is that Mad Maddingsen, the guy from Metal Gear Solid?

>>212887976
>Find someone worthy of marrying
this is not the time for jokes anon

Depends on where you live. If you live in a common-law state, you will lose half your shit if you piss her off, even if you've only been together for a half-year or so.

>>212887933 (OP)
I was with my ex gf for four years.
Broke up, moved apart and our sambo status got cancelled automatically.
No problems. Me and my bf right now own our apartment together though so if we split up we have to either agree to sell it or one of us has to pay the other half the value.

>>212893875
How bad was your gf that she turned you gay?

>>212893897
another day another bi genocide...

>>212893897
She didn't. Had a bf in grade school, gf in high school, another gf in uni and then my ex in my mid 20's.

>>212894665
>bf in grade school

>>212887976
This isn’t Uzbekistan you twat. Women in the west are whores completely unleashed.

>>212887933 (OP)
>Retard didn't think about setting up a https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ehevertrag if something bad would ever happen to xhis marriage
ngmi brudi all this seething for nothing

>>212894937
>>212888054

>>212887948
>well massa didn't whip YOU personally...

>>212891134
>>212891231
why would you hire a nanny when you have older or other familymembers of your own that could take care of the kids grandpa,grandma,uncles,aunts they would be very happy to help ???

>>212894681
Yes. For about a year.

>>212895095
They don’t owe me anything and I’m more comfortable paying someone for their services rather than doing it for free.

>>212887933 (OP)
yes, my sister could have done it with her ex bf they were together for like 7 years

>>212894989
not my fault you are only looking for 0815 Shantal with tiktok syndrome, perhaps try looking for some woman from more urban areas or so, perhaps go take trip to an neighbouring country as example a friend of mine found his love in poland just by simply travelling there participating in local events/feasts
>>212895390
they owe you gratitude being part of your live in the good and bad times and to take care of eachother you said it yourself your children are your blood and life as they are to you family

>>212895454
They can offer and I can refuse.
>my friend found some poolish gold digger
good for him!

>>212895492
anon your sarcasm smells ,something is not right with you, something has poisoned your mind the negativity is eating you up friend you need to fix yourself perhaps therapy i mean it in a good sense

It's actually a lot less rapey than I thought. Outside of 9 states everyone else uses this standard:

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/common-law-property.asp

you have to be married and the only things that get split are explicitly in both names, your own accounts are yours

>>212895638
falling for lies and the grift on the internet till you make your own actual research many such cases